Haven't been able to go the gym the last week, so I've started trying to do one legged squats at home. Wow, they're hard! I can do one or two pistol squats with each leg. It's strangely much easier with the left leg, even if that is my weakest. Seems as if I have better ankle movement there. Any tips for loosening up the ankles? I bet sanfransiscocrossfit has videos about it, but I haven't looked yet.
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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs
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Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Yeah, no, her boyfriend is about to go pro MMA, lol, plus he's a good guy.
Look up Andrew Sanchez. There's some youtubes of his amature fights floating around.
He's also a 2 time national college wrestling champion.
Mecha_Infantry
Banned
It's 2.45am..I've only eaten three times and I'm pondering whether to make some food!
I've been sleeping most of the day which is a good thing for my muscles, but have terrible DOMS in my legs, back and triceps. It's either from under-eating or drinking
Or not..
Haha. I've dropped my workouts to 4/5 exercises per muscle group, dropsets and dropped rest periods to 1.5 minutes, shorter and intense...Seems like my muscles don't like it!
I've been sleeping most of the day which is a good thing for my muscles, but have terrible DOMS in my legs, back and triceps. It's either from under-eating or drinking
Or not..
Haha. I've dropped my workouts to 4/5 exercises per muscle group, dropsets and dropped rest periods to 1.5 minutes, shorter and intense...Seems like my muscles don't like it!
Yeah, no, her boyfriend is about to go pro MMA, lol, plus he's a good guy.
Look up Andrew Sanchez. There's some youtubes of his amature fights floating around.
He's also a 2 time national college wrestling champion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXSNzHUrOKc
this dude? he put that guy to sleep like a boss
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Yep that's him.
Had son's bday party today. Had some cake, hope that translates into massive energy on Monday, lol.
HarryHengst
Member
Converse Chuck Taylors.
I'm going to order some adidas adipures tonight, have heard good things and @ reasonable price
Aren't those football/soccer shoes?
there's a bunch of different 'adipures', the gym ones are 'trainers' i think.
http://www.eastbay.com/ns/error/sitedown.html#sku=474000 when the site is up
or
http://pid.adidas.com/catalogue/au/product/V20554/adipure-Trainer-M-Textile
have heard good things, very similar to the new balance / vibram equivs.
I hate chucks.
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Deleted member 12837
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What don't you like about them?
I lift (and run) in Vibram Five Fingers, you could give those a try. I think they're perfect for the big lifts.
When it comes to lifting shoes, You got
-Chuck Taylors or their knock-offs, which offer a minimal amount of cushion between you and the floor, great for lifting
-weight lifting shoes, as the ones made by Rogue Fitness and other retailers, which have a solid sole, neoprene grip on the bottom, and metatarsal strap to keep your foot locked in
-some have listed vibrams, which look stupid in my opinion
-Chuck Taylors or their knock-offs, which offer a minimal amount of cushion between you and the floor, great for lifting
-weight lifting shoes, as the ones made by Rogue Fitness and other retailers, which have a solid sole, neoprene grip on the bottom, and metatarsal strap to keep your foot locked in
-some have listed vibrams, which look stupid in my opinion
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Chucks. Just get Chucks.
Drealmcc0y
Banned
If I do biceps during the day and then I play badminton at night will my muscles be over trained and/or not get enough rest?
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Deleted member 12837
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They do look stupid, but at the gym who gives a fuck, right?
Exactly. If you're worried about your appearance while lifting at the gym, you're doing it wrong. All that should matter is that they're comfortable, and work well for the task at hand.
HarryHengst
Member
Sucks to be you, they are excellent shoes for weight lifting, and quite cheap.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
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Deleted member 12837
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Several reasons. Most gyms don't allow people to go barefoot, it's nice to have something protecting your toes and the bottoms of your feet, and I already use them for running as well (I would definitely not go running outside completely barefoot. I know some people do that though).
It's not like Vibrams are expensive. They're like $70 a pair and last a while. I've had mine for 2 years now and they're still in great shape.
Water shoes are even cheaper (and better IMO).
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Also, they are nice since your toes are "free" and aren't in an arch at the end of a shoe.
It's the next best thing to barefoot lifting, imo.
Drealmcc0y
Banned
*cough*
Because they are about twice as expensive as Chucks and Chucks are better shoes for lifting.
Last week I had to take my shoes off after deadlifts to remove my shin guard, and then I went and did weighted dips in my socks. Like a baws.
Lasthope106
Member
Another vote for chucks. If you get a pair solely for weight lifting they will last you a long time and plus they are cheap. I'm about to cross the 2 year mark with mine, and they still got at least another 2 years left.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
What exactly makes them better or worse? Have you even used vibrams?
Shin guards for deadlifting? Dips in socks? Wtf?
Also, the base model of vibrams aren't expensive at all.
parrotbeak
Member
Vibrams are also great to run in, and I wouldn't run outside barefoot for more reasons than I wouldn't go to the gym barefoot (although I see people doing both). Hiking in Vibrams is great. I especially enjoyed a cliff face hike; I was able to scale things my friend couldn't, in part because I could get my foothold better than he could in shoes.
I see older people just walking around in them sometimes, and I've gotten over doing errands before and after gym in them. I figure as I get older I will probably start wearing them any time I know I will do a lot of walking. I'm not quite there yet though.
Also I used to take flat shoes and running shoes to the gym. Now I just have a pair of Vibrams in my gym bag, put them on after work, and I'm good to go.
I see older people just walking around in them sometimes, and I've gotten over doing errands before and after gym in them. I figure as I get older I will probably start wearing them any time I know I will do a lot of walking. I'm not quite there yet though.
Also I used to take flat shoes and running shoes to the gym. Now I just have a pair of Vibrams in my gym bag, put them on after work, and I'm good to go.
Lasthope106
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It's what the hipsters wear (trolololol).
parrotbeak
Member
I think that's really where the hate comes from. There aren't any hipsters in them around here though. I have seen them at the gym and on random older (50s) people just walking around.
They're better because they cost half as much and provide both a stable base and some comfortable padding. Plus Chucks are classic cool and Vibrams look stupid.
That's right, tough guy. I wear a pair of thin shin wraps when deadlifting because I got tired of having two pink, hairless strips running up each leg.
Like a baus. [/QUOTE]
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
So they aren't better for lifting, they are better, in your opinion, because of aesthetics and cost.
Gotcha.
Glad I'm not hung up on trying to look cool at the gym.
I also wrote that Chucks have a sole that provides a great combination of comfort and stability. When I have several hundred pounds on my back multiple times a week for years and years I appreciate both stability and a little padding between my foot the hard (and often uneven/warped) floor.
If you're so above looking cool at the gym why did you waste $80 on Vibrams when wrapping your feet in garbage bags would have basically the same result?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Are you serious?
The less between you and the floor the better, especially for squat and deadlift. Thin soled chucks and vibrams are about the same in that regard. Also vibrams can also work as a running shoe, I would not run in Chucks. Then there's the fact you have "toe freedom" which can make for more effective work which requires toe movement (like calf raises).
Thirdly, why would I wrap my feet in trash bags? Not only is the plastic slick, but my feet would not be able to breath.
Vibrams are basically lifting barefoot, which is optimal. Plus they make good running shoes.
I don't think anyone would get vibrams for the gym to make a fashion statement. Now you're just being silly. I also still doubt you've even used a pair of Vibrams and are simply against them based on aesthetics.
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Deleted member 12837
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Vibram has provided soles for footwear (not just they're own shoes, many other companies license their stuff for hiking, military, law enforcement, industrial, etc use) for 80 years, they're considered pretty high quality. Vibram soles are far better (more stable, better "padding") than Chuck soles, if that's your primary argument.
The fact that you think they're equivalent to "garbage bags" is laughable.
Wear pants
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
Hahahahaha. This made me laugh.
Vibrams are just a fad. Soon enough, something more asinine will come along.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I remember you saying that before, if I remember right, your justification was "some guy told me so."
They could very well be a "fad," but they have been around for a while, and if a better shoe comes along, I'll sure as shit wear it.
But then no one could see my teardrop quads.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002NHAWA6/?tag=neogaf0e-20
This is what I wear for deadlifts. They're the bomb.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
Nah. You're actually wrong. I never said "some guy told me so." I actually heard and read (same website discussing a university study).
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Oh, right, here's the quotes
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34241662&postcount=10308
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34242250&postcount=10316
Doesn't say anything about reading, just that you're going off of hearsay.
Care to post that study saying that vibrams/minimus shoes cause plantar fasciitis? I would be interested to read that. Especially when there are other studies and even a book about a Mexican group of people who do nothing but run barefoot and have exceptional leg/foot/spine health.
That makes more sense. When you said shin guards I was imagining soccer shin guard, not a sleeve.
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Deleted member 12837
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Looks like you're wasting $20 (one for each leg) on those when wrapping your shins in garbage bags (or, ya know, wearing pants) would basically have the same result.
In all seriousness though, I was imagining soccer shin guards like shogun mentioned above
Mecha_Infantry
Banned
Just bought some cheap arse Creatine, BCAA powder and Glutamine.
I can't afford to keep buying all this stuff monthly, so got 2-3 months work for a good price. Not a well known company, but lots of people seem to abide by them
I can't afford to keep buying all this stuff monthly, so got 2-3 months work for a good price. Not a well known company, but lots of people seem to abide by them
cuevas. PhD.
Member
Aren't vibrams meant for running anyways? Isn't the whole point that it forces you to run differently?
I don't see how that translates to lifting.
I don't see how that translates to lifting.
First, $10 a pair. My frugality is beyond compare.
edit: no, they are $10 a piece. Oh well, balling doesn't come cheap.
Second, an empty two liter soda bottle can be reappropriated to a decent pair of shin guards, so maybe don't be so dismissive of the garbage bag shoes.
Price Dalton
Member
This study (PDF) on foot loading mechanics during barefooting found that while barefoot running/walking could initially aggravate PF in habitual shoe-wearers, the ultimate result would be stronger feet and greater resistance to PF. They note that longtime barefooters (like the Tarahumara in Mexico) have almost zero PF.
The key is being smart about it. If you strap on the Vibrams for the first time ever and go run a half marathon, then yeah, you might hurt yourself. But if you introduce it gradually and work your way up to it, you're going to develop stronger feet and a lower tendency to get plantar fasciitis.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
Yes. As I've said, I've heard and read on the same website discussing a university study, meaning that there must've been some kind of video on the same site. When I said, "heard", I was referring to the video on the site with the site discussing the study in text.
And no, some guy didn't tell me they were just a fad. I said it.
Oh, and if you're going to become a cop, you better work on your grammar. "Off of" is grammatically incorrect.
EDIT-Price Dalton already touched on the subject.
And no, some guy didn't tell me they were just a fad. I said it.
Oh, and if you're going to become a cop, you better work on your grammar. "Off of" is grammatically incorrect.
EDIT-Price Dalton already touched on the subject.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Yeah, that's what I've read, seen, "heard."
I remember when I bought them, nearly everything said to "work into" them since you have to relearn running.
Lol, ok champ.
Price Dalton
Member
Yep, exactly. I've always found barefoot enthusiasts (consider myself one) to be extremely conservative with their recommendations. The idea that folks are just telling people to ditch the shoes and resume their normal activities is a strawman.
For curiosity's sake, did you experience an adjustment period when switching to VFF?
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