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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs
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Only reason I picked SL was because I didn't feel comfortable doing power cleans at all, and my friend had good results SL as well and would be helping me get started. Hopefully bringing it down to 3x5 wont mess up the program too much. Maybe I'll be able to throw in some accessory work to replace the 2 sets.
If they have a fridge there, you can cook in bulk and put it in tupperware. Plenty of stuff can be cooked in a slow cooker, which makes for a nice treat when you get back home. There's stuff like Leangains, which has you fast for 16 hours and then have a 8 hour feeding window. I usually would work all day and then eat when I return home. A glorious feast.
The biggest issue is not just the calories; it's learning how to navigate circumstance and prepare meals. There's nothing wrong with eating out, however it's a pet peeve of mine to see people rely on restaurants and premade meals as a main source of their diet. Just look at Danj a few pages back. He thinks if he burns some beef, the whole goddamn block is going to up in an inferno.
You're pressing under a 100 and having a really tough time recovering. Why do you insist on throwing even more work into a situation where you are unable to progress? Switching to 3x5 won't mess anything since things are already messed up.
Because you are having problems at such a light weight.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I just felt the need to put this out there. Of all the main lifts you're going to do OHP is going to progress the slowest and plateau the fastest. Keep that in mind.
Yea that's what I was told, and it's exactly why I'm wondering why it means something is messed up in my case. I'm struggling, but with my physique I didn't think I was doing something wrong.
parrotbeak
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Wait, a guy was standing in the squat rack doing ez bar curls and wouldn't let you use it? Wtf. Should rear end his car.
Drealmcc0y
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Hey guys im just wondering something after my Chest/Tricep workout.
I do 4 chest exercises then 3 tricep exercises.
I know that you need to get a protein shake(or equivalent) soon after your workout so im wondering.... is my chest not getting protein quick enough because my last half of the workout focused on tricep?
I do 4 chest exercises then 3 tricep exercises.
I know that you need to get a protein shake(or equivalent) soon after your workout so im wondering.... is my chest not getting protein quick enough because my last half of the workout focused on tricep?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Drealmcc0y
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Also ive changed my sessions slightly with 1 difference and it started tonight:
making sure i get perfect form.
I had to take the weight down on all my exercises, but man pushing weights slowly and perfectly, i got such a pump!
making sure i get perfect form.
I had to take the weight down on all my exercises, but man pushing weights slowly and perfectly, i got such a pump!
Drealmcc0y
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Because nutrition doesnt work that way.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
It ain't that serious.
hawkshockey11
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I don't think you have a real problem. Not every body is the same and some progress much slower than others. I am in the same boat as you. As long as your strength is going up, just keep working.
Same here. Not to mention we are relatively new to weight lifting/SL, of course we're not going to be pressing 150lbs easily in the first couple months.
Anyway, my own squat rack hog story from last night, and probably the worst here. Some chick was doing yoga/tai chi crap in front of the mirror and using the barbell on the squat rack next to her to hang her coat and bag on each end. I mean, how......I don't even....
No I am absolutely starving about 40 min after.
Actually I experience this. I'm so tired after some workouts that I don't even want to be bothered to eat.
parrotbeak
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Saw a lady do that on a bench press bench at my gym. Guys just stood there looking at her but no one said anything.
Same. I'm not hungry immediately after but if I don't eat within 30-40 minutes I will be really really hungry.JB1981 said:
I sometimes feel this way too. The way I remedy it is by having a huge shake that lets me push back dinner a couple hours or so.
FallingEdge
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10-15 minutes after I am done, I want to eat everything.
hawkshockey11
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I don't even remember the last time I was "hungry."
I have to force everything down because of the GOMAD.
I have to force everything down because of the GOMAD.
Drealmcc0y
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I have 7 eggs a day. 4 for breakfast, 3 an hour before i go to bed.
With all 7 I have the yolk.... how badly am i fucking up my cholesterol?
With all 7 I have the yolk.... how badly am i fucking up my cholesterol?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Prepare to explode any day now, make sure to tell everyone you love goodbye and evacuate your neighbors.
opticalmace
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I've been doing P90X since January, and starting to get into shape. I have adjustable dumbbells and a place to do pull-ups at home.
Was thinking of getting into some proper lifting. Could I just get a weight bench and bar off craigslist? Or would it be better to do it at the gym? Biggest thing is that I've never lifted beyond what I've seen in P90X, so my form might be crap. I don't know anyone who lifts so I don't have a friend to tag along with.
Was thinking of getting into some proper lifting. Could I just get a weight bench and bar off craigslist? Or would it be better to do it at the gym? Biggest thing is that I've never lifted beyond what I've seen in P90X, so my form might be crap. I don't know anyone who lifts so I don't have a friend to tag along with.
Drealmcc0y
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It ain't that serious.
FallingEdge
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Drealmcc0y
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I've ordered for the first time a pre workout supplement (jack3d). Looking forward to making allllll kinds of muscle gains!
Preworkouts are more of a product designed to get you hyped up to work out. Don't expect them to contribute too greatly to increased muscle mass. If you're already on a solid program with a solid diet, they'll just give you extra pep in the gym.
Drealmcc0y
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yeah but getting that 1 extra rep? That's a big deal. Its fucking serious.
Bearded Dudebro
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I feel like having a shake immediately after a workout should have some effect. I've seen some posts making fun of guys that immediately have protein after they're done, so I didn't even think about doing that, but I think I'm changing my mind on the issue.
Your body after working out is yelling for nutrients for a few hours, it is the best time to feed the muscles, but the amount of nutrients that can be absorbed is constrained by the stomach (and we certainly shouldn't start injecting amino acids!). By not wasting time before you start feeding you're maximizing the nutrients put into your body/muscles during this time frame. Let's say this time frame is 4 hours, and it takes you a 20-30 to get to go to the locker room and get dressed and find your car in the parking lot and drive home, or ride the bus, or whatever. That's ~10% of that 4 hour window (and likely the part of it when your body is yelling the loudest) where you're not getting nutrients.
Now I'd never buy 4 dollar RTD's, but bringing a shaker bottle with some protein powder in it in my gym bag is easy so I might start doing that. Maybe bring some milk too. As long as it's not a hassle, I don't see what's wrong with getting nutrients to your muscles as quickly as possible...
Pretty much.
Your body after working out is yelling for nutrients for a few hours, it is the best time to feed the muscles, but the amount of nutrients that can be absorbed is constrained by the stomach (and we certainly shouldn't start injecting amino acids!). By not wasting time before you start feeding you're maximizing the nutrients put into your body/muscles during this time frame. Let's say this time frame is 4 hours, and it takes you a 20-30 to get to go to the locker room and get dressed and find your car in the parking lot and drive home, or ride the bus, or whatever. That's ~10% of that 4 hour window (and likely the part of it when your body is yelling the loudest) where you're not getting nutrients.
Now I'd never buy 4 dollar RTD's, but bringing a shaker bottle with some protein powder in it in my gym bag is easy so I might start doing that. Maybe bring some milk too. As long as it's not a hassle, I don't see what's wrong with getting nutrients to your muscles as quickly as possible...
Pretty much.
FallingEdge
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Yup, nothing wrong with that. It is also a reason why you want to consume carbs immediately after your workout. In the end, it is your body and only you know how it works but I'm all about the post workout shake and big meal.
Bearded Dudebro
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so I've experimented with pre workouts for the past couple weeks. I posted earlier saying that after the initial trial of C4, none worked for me. I'm curious if it'd be possible that since I normally take in no stimulants, that maybe that 1 scoop of c4 was enough to overload me, making me resistant? Maybe I should try a couple weeks without a pre workout, then try half a scoop of C4?
Do you drink one from the grocery store? Like, you walk around, pick up a milk, drink it, then pay for an empty bottle at the end? lol
I don't understand how taking a high amount would make you resistant. 1 scoop isn't that much, even if you take in no stimulants..
Yep. Every single time.
FallingEdge
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Some people just don't react to those stimulants. I know that creatine doesn't have an effect on everyone either.
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
Gaf,
What is the ideal weight for a guy at 5'7? -Still technically a teen.
Also, how do I come up with a good upper body routine? Arms and chest, etc.
What is the ideal weight for a guy at 5'7? -Still technically a teen.
Also, how do I come up with a good upper body routine? Arms and chest, etc.
I'm 5'6.5" and would be happy if I was muscular at about 145 pounds, for whatever that's worth.
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
Well, I am currently exactly 145. I have a thinner frame, so I guess the extra weight is from recent trips to the gym.
I am still not at my goal, though.
I'm at 132 last time I checked, and still have some fat on me. If I could replace my fat with muscle I'd be happy.
I'm about 5'10" and at 210 lbs. My muscle mass has gone up for sure, but a lot of it is still hidden under bodyfat (I'm around 20% bodyfat :\). I still haven't tightened up my diet since working out. (well, beyond cutting out coke/pop and switching from white bread to whole wheat.)
Bearded Dudebro
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I dunno just throwing it out there. My thought was that people do gradually become tolerant to stimulants, maybe too much made it happen quicker for me? Unless I'm like super human immune to em or something.
Do people know they are not going down 90 degrees when they squat or do they believe they are? How can you not know you're only hitting 45 degrees? Or maybe they do and don't care because they look so cool with 3 plates on each side. I don't get it. I rarely see people going deep when squatting. Is it like that in your gym?
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