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Dice said:
I'm doing something very simple. Every morning and night I'm going to do pushups and situps until I figure I can't do more without significant difficulty. I think I'll just do one set of pushups until it becomes pretty hard, then try to double that number in situps, then see what more I can do in pushups and again double that in situps. I will probably push this to triple on the situps but I haven't really exercised outside of cycling (my quads are awesome) for quite some time so I'm not there right now.

I know this is against the whole goal mentality, but I really don't care to meet any goal except whatever positive affect this has. I'm really not in a position to make this a solid chunk of my life and invest in weights or a membership somewhere, and I'm pretty lean so weight loss isn't a concern. I'm going to be writing my numbers on a calendar to remind myself to keep at it and keep track of progress. I'll check in a month from now to describe whatever benefit it has brought me. If it goes well, I may get something to incorporate pullups, we'll see.

1hr a day a couple times a week is a chunk of you life?

Anyway, the OP has some info about body weight training and books like convict conditioning get a lot of praise. You might get more out of that than endless pushups/situps.
 

X-Frame

Member
Dice said:
I'm doing something very simple. Every morning and night I'm going to do pushups and situps until I figure I can't do more without significant difficulty. I think I'll just do one set of pushups until it becomes pretty hard, then try to double that number in situps, then see what more I can do in pushups and again double that in situps. I will probably push this to triple on the situps but I haven't really exercised outside of cycling (my quads are awesome) for quite some time so I'm not there right now.

I know this is against the whole goal mentality, but I really don't care to meet any goal except whatever positive affect this has. I'm really not in a position to make this a solid chunk of my life and invest in weights or a membership somewhere, and I'm pretty lean so weight loss isn't a concern. I'm going to be writing my numbers on a calendar to remind myself to keep at it and keep track of progress. I'll check in a month from now to describe whatever benefit it has brought me. If it goes well, I may get something to incorporate pullups, we'll see.

I don't know if I am just jumping on a bandwagon, but I feel compelled to "save" anybody now who intends to do a lot of sit-ups.

Please watch this video by top spine specialist (who has worked with professional athletes to powerlifters) to see what he has to say about core training, SPECIFICALLY sit-ups and crunches @ 2:33

YouTube - Stuart McGill, Core Values

Reading any fitness, strength coach, or training blog within the past several years and NOBODY is recommending sit-ups and crunches anymore, at least anyone with a shred of credibility.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Oh man. The gym today, geez.

A guy took up the free rack and started doing back squats. The usual happened: decent form, never went to or below parallel. Whatever. But here's the kicker: as he was coming up, he got on his goddamn toes doing a calf raise with about 215lbs on his back. Am I off-base here or is that groan worthy?

Then there was this Asian kid that looked about 17 years old doing the bench press. He must have tried to do 155lbs+. Of course, him being not as strong as he thought he was, he tried to do two reps and completely failed to clear the second one to the point I had to step in and move the bar off his neck as he was quietly yelping "help". I told him to ask for a spotter so he doesn't risk injury, but he obviously never did and then decided to try the same weight later by having his feet off the ground completely and in the air.

/shrug
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Hmmmm, didn't see those there. They do look interesting.

And situps are bad, huh... ahhh...
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Well, the real sure thing is that bodyweight training at home is my style. After I get a good strength base and greater flexibility I may even just turn it into breakdancing to keep from getting bored. Not into foreign objects, cept for my bike. Of course all this is hypothetical depending on how well I keep at it. It will probably function most greatly as a break from mental strain (learning Korean) which I currently use videogames for, which isn't very active and should only be a rest for both mind and body when it is that time of day.
 

twofold

Member
Draft said:
My main problem with Crossfit is all that low intensity high volume work shreds the hands. And not in the cool, look how fucking crazy my grip is from pulling 500 pounds. More like, look how I can't pick anything up without getting it bloody because I just did 50 pull ups and 50 deadlifts in the last 20 minutes.

http://www.jmldirect.com/Ped-Egg-PP3399/

Get one of these. It kicks ass.
 
MickeyKnox said:
Do anti-rotation work, Pallof Press variations and the like, also work in suitcase deadlifts and one-sided deadlifts.

X-Frame said:
Along with these great suggestions, I'd also suggest single-leg work and front/side planks of different variations.

Thanks, I'll definitely start implementing these tomorrow.
 

mr afghan jones

Neo Member
sebajuNujabes said:
Halp, Gaf. My core sucks. I think my abdominal and oblique muscles are lagging behind as far as strength goes. I'm not out for washboard abs or anything; It just feels like my core is holding me back. I've been told doing squats and deadlifts would do the trick, but the difference is pretty minor. Any suggestions?

Other than that, I've been making steady progress. 3 pounds away from my goal and very little of that is fat thanks to this thread.

Turkish Get Ups and "300" floor wipers are both awesome for obliques and abs.

This plus squats and Deadlifts should give you a core of iron.
 
My workouts are going great, but there's something I just noticed.

Now that my body fat % is so low, there is a big vein on my right temple that I can see all the time. It is especially pronounced during times of high blood pressure, such as working out and after taking a shower. I push really hard during workouts, such as leg presses and various other exercises, to tighten the abs/core. I am very pale, so you can see veins even during non-workout days. This is great for the arms and other areas, but not so much for the forehead.

Is there a way to reduce this effect? I don't think there's anything wrong, but just wanted to ask workout-GAF their thoughts. Thanks.
 

Aurora

Member
I just came back from my second personal trainer session.

It's strange, when I go to the gym alone, I lift a lot heavier than what I do with my trainer, but I rarely sweat or become exhausted. With my trainer, she makes me do a lot of lighter lifts but somehow I sweat so much and get really tired, almost to the point of getting dizzy.

The main difference is that she rarely lets me take breaks, whereas when I gym solo I take a decent amount of breaks in between.

Which style is more beneficial for someone who wants to bulk up?
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Aurora said:
Which style is more beneficial for someone who wants to bulk up?

What you've been doing on your own.


repetitioncontinuum.jpg
 

smurfx

get some go again
Dosia said:
I have read 0.5g of protein is necessary per lb and 1.5 is not beneficial.
i would really prefer that to be the case as i don't think i can eat 1.5 g of protein per lb as that would be a lot of meat in one day. can you explain the chart evilore? i can't make much sense of it. i'm on a low carb diet right now and is it okay to cook chicken and other meat in bacon grease?
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Aurora said:
I just came back from my second personal trainer session.

It's strange, when I go to the gym alone, I lift a lot heavier than what I do with my trainer, but I rarely sweat or become exhausted. With my trainer, she makes me do a lot of lighter lifts but somehow I sweat so much and get really tired, almost to the point of getting dizzy.

The main difference is that she rarely lets me take breaks, whereas when I gym solo I take a decent amount of breaks in between.

Which style is more beneficial for someone who wants to bulk up?


That's strange. When I lift heavy I sweat all over the place. Perhaps you can lift heavier?

I never finish lifting "not sweaty."
 

X-Frame

Member
So I noticed a huge gash in my dockers this morning right at the crotch. Either I did something dumb that I don't remember or my legs are getting too big for my pants.

In college when I started leg training I had to get new boxers and jeans because I couldn't fit into them. I've only been doing lower body work for about a month and it's been BW lunges and cable pullthroughs. Granted I've been untrained for 4 years, muscle memory at work?

Going to re-measure the quads tonight, hopefully I'm not disappointed and didn't just rip expensive pants for nothing!
 

Aurora

Member
Thanks EviLore, I forgot about that chart, it's a good one.

Something else I noticed today, after about 20 minutes in the gym my forearms were really burning, and in almost all dumbbell exercises I was doing, I'd feel the most pain in my forearms.

Is that a sign of weak forearms, poor form, or is it normal? I reckon my form was pretty good though, plus I had my trainer watch me so I assume she would have corrected me if I was doing it wrong.
 
EviLore said:
I've looked at this chart many many times and, in the effect scale key, the middle block is darker than the one right above it. This is switched, right? Or is something wrong with my eyes today?

Alienshogun said:
That's strange. When I lift heavy I sweat all over the place. Perhaps you can lift heavier?

I never finish lifting "not sweaty."
Same here, I meant to comment the other day that I usually do low bar squats but as my shirt gets soaked with sweat, I have a harder time keeping the bar from slipping, so I naturally start in a higher bar position toward the end. I've never lifted heavy enough to need powder and I don't want to carry anything else around. Maybe I need to stick a light towel on my back for the last set. Or just switch to high bar once I'm all sweaty.
 
I have a question about form when it comes to OHP. How wide is your grip on the bar? I usually have it just at shoulder length but yesterday, I went wider. Pinky was almost at the little ring markings they have at the side. It was much harder and I felt more of a burn on my arms and shoulders.

Is this the proper way to do this press? Or does it come down to preference?
 
FallingEdge said:
I have a question about form when it comes to OHP. How wide is your grip on the bar? I usually have it just at shoulder length but yesterday, I went wider. Pinky was almost at the little ring markings they have at the side. It was much harder and I felt more of a burn on my arms and shoulders.

Is this the proper way to do this press? Or does it come down to preference?
Maybe it was harder cuz the wider your grip is, the less tight your shoulder blades are? I think as long as your shoulder blades are tight it's ok, but the looser they are the less stable your shoulder will be.
 

Veezy

que?
So, ladies and gentlemen, a story about food.

I've been eating so low in calories to try and cut back body fat that I've began to get more crazy than I usually do. My girlfriend, recognizing this, said she was cooking me diner and asked what I wanted. With no delay, I said ribs. She was excited, as her dinner for the past three weeks has been spinach and chicken.

To start the meal, I had to go get the drinks. A bottle of Yellowtail white wine, the cheap shit, at her request, for her. For myself, a fifth of Buffalo Head single barrel Kentucky straight bourbon. If you haven't ever had it, get some now. 90 proof, smooth, and makes you feel like a grown ass man. Drink that shit shirtless with hair on chest for extra effect. You’ll feel like you can kill a bear. Don’t. Bears are stronger than you. Fight a Guido instead, they have it comin’.

We then baked the ribs, after covering them in dry rub, at 300 degrees for an hour and half in a casserole dish lined with aluminum foil, with the foil also covering the top. As the timer went off, we removed ribs. From them, the top layer of foil. We then covered the ribs in Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ sauce and let it broil for five minutes.

Why Sweet Baby Ray's? Because it's the best. That's a fact. Check the "what to put in your fridge to get women" video on you tube or the recent rib video on 70sBig.com. Look at what they're using. Learn.

To accompany the ribs, we crushed sweet potatoes and mixed in cinnamon. Yum.

I don't believe heaven, but if it's real, it smells like ribs cooking. Easy recipe, delicious, and not too bad for you. And what did I have for breakfast? Six hard boiled eggs. Sigh.

@parrotbeak

I know you object to carrying around more stuff, but you can get a sock stuffed with calk for around 5 bucks on amazon. You can shove it in your pocket and it wont' take up too much space. Then, rub it on the bar when it gets slippery.
 
Haha, I was just looking at a package of baby back ribs at the market, but went with fresh tuna instead. I just had a bbq full of steak and sausage last weekend. Thick tuna filets lightly seasoned with sea salt, left it raw for 2" in the center, along with some broccoli. Simple, fast and so good after the gym.

Veezy said:
I know you object to carrying around more stuff, but you can get a sock stuffed with calk for around 5 bucks on amazon. You can shove it in your pocket and it wont' take up too much space. Then, rub it on the bar when it gets slippery.
One like this? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002IAGZ0Y/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Do you just rub the whole thing against the bar or does it open up to access the chalk?

Thanks, I'll check this out.
 

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
X-Frame said:
Reading any fitness, strength coach, or training blog within the past several years and NOBODY is recommending sit-ups and crunches anymore, at least anyone with a shred of credibility.
crunches were ALWAYS bad! ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS! Paul Wade explains in Convict Conditioning that crunches basically came around during the steroid body builder era of the late-60s/70s. Because of roid-gut, body builders couldn't do a whole ton of work on their abs or they'd end up with these grotesque piles of muscle and flab... so they did crunches.. enough to give them a six pack but not so much muscle that it would bloat.

situps are actually ok, though it is still putting the body in a motion that is pretty much never gone through naturally except for the situp exercise (i.e. your stomach is rarely if ever going to be lifting the weight of your entire torso). The video you linked to was more or less complaining about doing ridiculous numbers of situps, basically saying you would blow your back out by the time you got to be able to do hundreds at a time.

leg lifts are really the only non-core ab exercise worth anything. It's a natural motion for the body, puts no stress on the back, and can easily be trained to high reps for endurance with no stress on anything but the abs. IMHO a choice between situps and any good routine of core exercises, I would take the core exercises any day of the week.. but if you absolutely want a crazy six pack, find something to hang from, and work to lift your legs with your knees straight (locked actually.. one of the few times you're encouraged to lock a joint).

however it must be said... a six pack isn't something you obtain or work towards... it's something you maintain through rigorous diet. typically anything much higher than 10% in body fat and you can say goodbye to that six pack.

FallingEdge said:
I have a question about form when it comes to OHP. How wide is your grip on the bar? I usually have it just at shoulder length but yesterday, I went wider. Pinky was almost at the little ring markings they have at the side. It was much harder and I felt more of a burn on my arms and shoulders.

Is this the proper way to do this press? Or does it come down to preference?
proper press is supposed to work the triceps (on any press). also as mentioned, the further out you go the less your shoulder blades are able to work and the greater a chance you have in stressing your rotator cuffs. basically going out further (I believe) there was less force coming from your shoulders and triceps.

a good OHP should basically be a standing handstand pushup. as you're saying you do.. shoulder width, elbows to the front and not splayed out.
 

Veezy

que?
To add onto borghe about six pack abs being about diet, it's also related to how you're assembled as a person. For example, I'm 5 foot 9 and have a short torso. So, my chest, back, shoulders are way easy to look big on my frame and my legs are easy to develop becuse I'm shorter, but I'm pretty much just stuck with a flat stomach, at best, unless I get to a dangerously low bodyfat. I've done it, and it makes me feel sick all the time.

However, I have a friend who's 6 foot 2. So, his upper body looks great, along with his abs, but he has stick legs becuase the work required to make them look big is too much. He kinda looks like an upside down weeble wobble.
 

thomaser

Member
Since working out on Sunday, the third toe on my right foot has been numb. I've also had pains under the foot, on the ball, but only on Monday. The numbness is very strange - I cannot remember kicking into something or hurting the foot in any way. The only things I did were squats, overhead presses, power cleans and some sets on a calf machine. Has anyone else experienced something like this? Suggestions as to what might be the cause?
 
smurfx said:
can you explain the chart evilore? i can't make much sense of it.
1-3 reps (the weight where you can only do 1-3 reps correctly) will have the strongest impact on your strength gains, myofibrillar hypertrophy (increasing the number of muscle cells) and bone density. It has little effect on capillary development, lactate generation and pain tolerance. The opposite end--very light weights at very high reps, the typical aerobic type "weightlifting"--has the opposite, so you will generate a lot of lactic acid, endorphins will kick in and increase your pain tolerance, and you'll get more blood flood, but you won't gain much else. Most people know that; the more interesting stuff is in between, where you might alter how many reps you do depending on which goals you want to prioritize. You can kinda see the rationale for the 5 rep standard in Starting Strength and Stronglifts.
 
thomaser said:
Since working out on Sunday, the third toe on my right foot has been numb. I've also had pains under the foot, on the ball, but only on Monday. The numbness is very strange - I cannot remember kicking into something or hurting the foot in any way. The only things I did were squats, overhead presses, power cleans and some sets on a calf machine. Has anyone else experienced something like this? Suggestions as to what might be the cause?

I had/sometimes have a similar pain: numbness on my foot, directly below my 3rd and 4th toes, feels kind of like there's a pebble in my shoe on occasion.

I think it's called metatarsalgia (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/metatarsalgia/DS00496), I used to get it playing basketball or running. I since went up .5 shoe size, bought a bunch of socks that provide more arch support and fit a little snug (but not enough to suffocate my feet) and I havent had too many flareups or problems. I think the cause of my discomfort were shoes with not enough room in the toebox, and socks that stretched out and were ill-fitting, causing them to bunch up.
 
Alienshogun said:
Ok to buy five fingers on Amazon?

Do these need to be fitted to your foot?

Also, do people recommend running in these too?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003BEEQI4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I'd say so, although I went to a store to buy my pair because I wanted to see how they fit first. They had me try 2 sizes; the first was a bit too big. The second fit with just slight room in front of the big toe and more room in the other toes. I had read online that you don't want any space in front of the big toe, but the guy at the store, who has been using them for 6 years, told me that would give me bruised toes when I ran.

Seems to fit perfect, like they were made for my feet. I have wide feet and it's hard to find shoes that feel good.

I did have some pressure on the tip of my big toe even with the little space the first time I wore them, but they're fine now. It's only been a couple weeks since I've used them, but I absolutely love them and wish I'd gotten them sooner.

There's a section in this pdf on fitting:
http://birthdayshoes.com/toes/BeginnersGuide/
 

DanManIt

Neo Member
Veezy said:
So, ladies and gentlemen, a story about food.

I've been eating so low in calories to try and cut back body fat that I've began to get more crazy than I usually do. My girlfriend, recognizing this, said she was cooking me diner and asked what I wanted. With no delay, I said ribs. She was excited, as her dinner for the past three weeks has been spinach and chicken.

To start the meal, I had to go get the drinks. A bottle of Yellowtail white wine, the cheap shit, at her request, for her. For myself, a fifth of Buffalo Head single barrel Kentucky straight bourbon. If you haven't ever had it, get some now. 90 proof, smooth, and makes you feel like a grown ass man. Drink that shit shirtless with hair on chest for extra effect. You’ll feel like you can kill a bear. Don’t. Bears are stronger than you. Fight a Guido instead, they have it comin’.

We then baked the ribs, after covering them in dry rub, at 300 degrees for an hour and half in a casserole dish lined with aluminum foil, with the foil also covering the top. As the timer went off, we removed ribs. From them, the top layer of foil. We then covered the ribs in Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ sauce and let it broil for five minutes.

Why Sweet Baby Ray's? Because it's the best. That's a fact. Check the "what to put in your fridge to get women" video on you tube or the recent rib video on 70sBig.com. Look at what they're using. Learn.

To accompany the ribs, we crushed sweet potatoes and mixed in cinnamon. Yum.

I don't believe heaven, but if it's real, it smells like ribs cooking. Easy recipe, delicious, and not too bad for you. And what did I have for breakfast? Six hard boiled eggs. Sigh.

@parrotbeak

I know you object to carrying around more stuff, but you can get a sock stuffed with calk for around 5 bucks on amazon. You can shove it in your pocket and it wont' take up too much space. Then, rub it on the bar when it gets slippery.
If you want to make baby rays taste even better mix it with a little bit of jack Daniels. Pure perfection
 

thomaser

Member
kevo_huevo said:
I had/sometimes have a similar pain: numbness on my foot, directly below my 3rd and 4th toes, feels kind of like there's a pebble in my shoe on occasion.

I think it's called metatarsalgia (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/metatarsalgia/DS00496), I used to get it playing basketball or running. I since went up .5 shoe size, bought a bunch of socks that provide more arch support and fit a little snug (but not enough to suffocate my feet) and I havent had too many flareups or problems. I think the cause of my discomfort were shoes with not enough room in the toebox, and socks that stretched out and were ill-fitting, causing them to bunch up.

I don't think it's the shoes - I've used the same pair of shoes at the gym for ten years or so, and they fit very comfortably. The numbness makes it feel as if I have cloth or cotton or something between my toes. If I dangle my foot in the air without socks on, it feels as if something is stuck on the toe pad, or as if there's a plaster on it (it's the fourth toe, by the way, not the third... hard to tell the difference) Perhaps there's a pinched nerve somewhere?
 
parrotbeak said:
Maybe it was harder cuz the wider your grip is, the less tight your shoulder blades are? I think as long as your shoulder blades are tight it's ok, but the looser they are the less stable your shoulder will be.

borghe said:
proper press is supposed to work the triceps (on any press). also as mentioned, the further out you go the less your shoulder blades are able to work and the greater a chance you have in stressing your rotator cuffs. basically going out further (I believe) there was less force coming from your shoulders and triceps.

a good OHP should basically be a standing handstand pushup. as you're saying you do.. shoulder width, elbows to the front and not splayed out.

Thanks for the information guys. I will be more aware of where I grip the bar and how it will impact my OHP workout.


parrotbeak said:
1-3 reps (the weight where you can only do 1-3 reps correctly) will have the strongest impact on your strength gains, myofibrillar hypertrophy (increasing the number of muscle cells) and bone density. It has little effect on capillary development, lactate generation and pain tolerance. The opposite end--very light weights at very high reps, the typical aerobic type "weightlifting"--has the opposite, so you will generate a lot of lactic acid, endorphins will kick in and increase your pain tolerance, and you'll get more blood flood, but you won't gain much else. Most people know that; the more interesting stuff is in between, where you might alter how many reps you do depending on which goals you want to prioritize. You can kinda see the rationale for the 5 rep standard in Starting Strength and Stronglifts.

This is why I love 5/3/1 so much. I am able to continue with my strength gains while focusing on hypertrophy with my workouts in the 8-10 rep rage.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
parrotbeak said:
I'd say so, although I went to a store to buy my pair because I wanted to see how they fit first. They had me try 2 sizes; the first was a bit too big. The second fit with just slight room in front of the big toe and more room in the other toes. I had read online that you don't want any space in front of the big toe, but the guy at the store, who has been using them for 6 years, told me that would give me bruised toes when I ran.

Seems to fit perfect, like they were made for my feet. I have wide feet and it's hard to find shoes that feel good.

I did have some pressure on the tip of my big toe even with the little space the first time I wore them, but they're fine now. It's only been a couple weeks since I've used them, but I absolutely love them and wish I'd gotten them sooner.

There's a section in this pdf on fitting:
http://birthdayshoes.com/toes/BeginnersGuide/

Guess I'll have to find a store near me that stocks them.

Oh, wait, I can use that guide you supplied me to find mysize. Awesome.
 
Veezy said:
However, I have a friend who's 6 foot 2. So, his upper body looks great, along with his abs, but he has stick legs becuase the work required to make them look big is too much. He kinda looks like an upside down weeble wobble.

I'm 6'1 and have long legs/short torso. I have small bone structure-girly wrists and ankles. I try so hard to build up my legs, and all I can really do is get them cut. My upper body is fine, though. Nice chest, abs, lats, and arms, though my body doesn't look disproportionate.
 
Alienshogun said:
Guess I'll have to find a store near me that stocks them.
Or you could order two of the closest size and return one. I will probably continue to buy them at the store I got my first pair at, since the price is about the same, and it's a small locally owned store, so I'd rather support them.

Alienshogun said:
Oh, wait, I can use that guide you supplied me to find mysize. Awesome.
Ya, I didn't actually try that method to size, but they seem to know what they are talking about.
 
Hey guys, in the next two days I'm gonna do some work to the OP, including info for the G+ fitness circle. If you have any tips, links, books, videos, etc. added that you think would be a good addition, please respond and let me know!

Also, if you want a G+ invite, gimme yo email.
 

Veezy

que?
Mr. Snrub said:
Hey guys, in the next two days I'm gonna do some work to the OP, including info for the G+ fitness circle. If you have any tips, links, books, videos, etc. added that you think would be a good addition, please respond and let me know!
Mobility WOD - Semi daily stretches and mobility exercises to keep your joints/muscles/etc. from getting stiff. Videos can also help with nagging issues you already have. I fixed a shoulder problem doing some daily work I learned here. It's also how I learned to deal with my knee pain I've had since I started lifting.

70s Big - Blog about being big, strong, and having chest hair. Really a fantastic resource for people that want to get large.

Also, if you'd like, I can type up the general template for the Grayskull LP. I, of course, recommend buying the complete e-book, but it's still a great template for beginners or intermediate lifters who want to extend their LP training a bit.
 

Meatfist

Member
I went to a different branch of my gym this morning and it was heaven. Two stories, a massive weight section and almost no one around. I could finally deadlift in peace :p

What kind of rows do you guys recommend? I've been doing machine/plate loaded seated rows but I might add bent-over rows to mix it up.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
parrotbeak said:
Or you could order two of the closest size and return one. I will probably continue to buy them at the store I got my first pair at, since the price is about the same, and it's a small locally owned store, so I'd rather support them.


Ya, I didn't actually try that method to size, but they seem to know what they are talking about.


I called all the shoe stores near me in my mall, all sold out. I had to order online.

I'll see what happens ordered these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JYIM1A/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Size 44.
 

ezrarh

Member
Meatfist said:
I went to a different branch of my gym this morning and it was heaven. Two stories, a massive weight section and almost no one around. I could finally deadlift in peace :p

What kind of rows do you guys recommend? I've been doing machine/plate loaded seated rows but I might add bent-over rows to mix it up.

Bent over rows are great because you're also working your core.

And Alien - I have the same vibram pair and I think they're great. It took a couple weeks to break them in for me after that it was smooth sailing.
 

X-Frame

Member
Veezy said:
To start the meal, I had to go get the drinks. A bottle of Yellowtail white wine, the cheap shit, at her request, for her. For myself, a fifth of Buffalo Head single barrel Kentucky straight bourbon. If you haven't ever had it, get some now. 90 proof, smooth, and makes you feel like a grown ass man. Drink that shit shirtless with hair on chest for extra effect. You’ll feel like you can kill a bear. Don’t. Bears are stronger than you. Fight a Guido instead, they have it comin’.

I was laughing at the office when I read this. End of the day, office is dead quiet where nobody is doing work and I'm cracking up. Lol.
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
Started "couch to 5k" last week and really enjoy it. I hate running so the fact that I have enjoyed this so far is great. You just listen to the nice British lady on the podcast and run/brisk walk when she tells you.

Had to stop for the week this week because I have come down with some kind of cold/allergy thing, but I'll repeat week 2 next week. I have been eating much better too, I eat Greek yogurt for breakfast, a salad and a banana for lunch, then either chicken and veggies or eggs and turkey bacon for dinner.

I'm still having trouble keeping myself from eating out on the weekends, but hopefully as I find some good recipes that will change.
 
ezrarh said:
And Alien - I have the same vibram pair and I think they're great. It took a couple weeks to break them in for me after that it was smooth sailing.
Same here, black KSOs with the yellow logo. I think that's the one everyone is recommended to start with.

The first few times I put them on, it was kinda hard, but you get used to finding your toes and getting them lined up in each finger, and then you just bend the heel back and pop it over your heel. Gets really easy.

Alienshogun said:
Another question, do you guys use those special socks with your five fingers or do you just put them over your bare foot?
Barefoot. Feels fine. The first time I walked in them, the weird thing was feeling the concrete and rocks. You can feel everything but it doesn't hurt.
 

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Alienshogun said:
Another question, do you guys use those special socks with your five fingers or do you just put them over your bare foot?

I was going to get the Five Fingers, but I just can't bare to wear them in public, which sort of defeats the purpose. I'm going to go with either the Merrell Trail Barefoot shoes or the New Balance Minimus Training shoes -- both with Vibram soles.
 
X-Frame said:
I was going to get the Five Fingers, but I just can't bare to wear them in public, which sort of defeats the purpose. I'm going to go with either the Merrell Trail Barefoot shoes or the New Balance Minimus Training shoes -- both with Vibram soles.

to anyone with the New Balance Minimus shoes:

Which specific model is everyone wearing? I went to the site and they had different models of the Minimus which confused me a little. Ideally, I'd like a shoe I can squat/deadlift in, but also use for 20 min of HIIT. Should I be looking for a different shoe? Perhaps a Nike Free?
 
X-Frame said:
I was going to get the Five Fingers, but I just can't bare to wear them in public, which sort of defeats the purpose. I'm going to go with either the Merrell Trail Barefoot shoes or the New Balance Minimus Training shoes -- both with Vibram soles.
Haha, ya, I bought the black ones and then colored the yellow logo with a sharpie, thinking I could wear them to the office on days I work out during lunch. But....haven't had the balls yet. It's mostly not wanting to have to explain them to every single person who sees me in them. A lot of people at the gym wear them, so it's no big deal wearing them there. And I don't really care about wearing them around my neighborhood. I think they are around enough. I've seen people walking around in them.

I'd guess having the soles would give you the exact same sensation under your foot, but you'll be missing out on being able to wiggle your toes around! Merrells are nice though. I'd probably get another Merrells for serious hiking, although I didn't do any hiking this summer because of weird weather. It's hard to hike with flash flood watches and possible thunderstorms.
 
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