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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

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X-Frame

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I just started reading Convict Conditioning for a couple reasons .. one I'm always down to learn more about fitness and training, two because I am quickly becoming interested in the old-time strong men, and now after reading the first chapters ancient forms of training and getting stronger, and lastly but not least because my GOAL is to be strong, tough, agile, and mobile unlike traditional BB'ers and PL'ers.

I don't care about a 1RM or being able to do one exercise vs. another. I don't care if, because of my possible herniated disc and sciatica symptoms, that I won't be able to do traditional squats or deadlifts anytime soon, or that I won't be barbell benching because of my shoulder surgeries -- I just want to be strong and healthy again.

So even though I assume this book is based on the notion that the reader is generally healthy without any serious injuries (that I have), I hope there's still stuff I can take from it and apply to my training.
 

Prologue

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Ripclawe said:
anyone take multivitamins? Not the hardcore stuff bodybuilders, just OTC stuff at CVS or Walgreens? any recommendations?


I picked up Opti-Men
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015R3AAO/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I just take the two instead of the 3 that are recommended. Actually noticed a minor increase in energy with them. After I'm done, I might switch over to orange triad. I hear good things about their products.

Optimum also has good whey protein if you want to stick to one particular company.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000QSNYGI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
 

DogWelder

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Luscious LeftFoot said:
How does this taste? I'm Canadian wouldn't mind being able to buy something local
Chocolate tastes like sweetened cocoa. Vanilla tastes a little sweeter and I wasn't a huge fan, but it's still passable. AFAIK, they are only sold at Costco; $40/2kg or $32 when on sale.
 
Casp0r said:
Hahahah I know I know. I only use 1.25 scoops in a pint of milk.

I was just curious if anyone else actually drank it 'mud' like.

If anyone's curious this is the shit

Was the first thing I found, so I really have no idea if this is actually any good or what, however I've already gone up a few kg's while feeling much stronger and it tastes pretty nice.

That is a mass gainer. Now it might be what you need, but really that product is just a bunch of cheap crap. You would be MUCH better off eating regular food and supplementing with a whey powder, rather than using that.

They pack most mass gainers with cheap ass long-chain malodextrins and label them as containing "complex carbs" that are great for your body, when its just a bunch of long chain sugars. You're better off eating potatoes.

Buy something without so many carbs in it- Optimum Nutrition Whey. Another example from that site:
http://www.trec-nutrition.co.uk/protein-powders/whey-100-2275g.html

It'll last you much longer, and save you a lot of money. 1-2 scoops a serving, and just eat more real food. And it probably won't turn out to be mud at all (unless it is of questionable quality).
 

qcf x2

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Veezy said:
I wouldn't set foot in a public shower. I don't feel comfortable being naked around random people that I'm not intending on having sex with. Especially old men that seem to just hang out in the locker room, for no apparent reason. Seriously, that shit is weird.


I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, I think we've all felt that way at some point in time. On the other hand, I think most of us were, like, 16. Personally I work out hard before work, so a shower is necessary and the gym has individual stalls. There's always awkward moments (especially considering it's South Beach), but if you're a secure adult there's nothing to give cause for skipping a shower.

Anyway, maybe you guys can help me out. I'm 6'2, ~180. I was 192 at the beginning of the year but I had a surgery that sidelined me for about two months and I lost about 20 lbs in that span (mostly from lack of appetite during recovery). Since returning to the gym I've had renewed focus. I go five days a week, but I need help getting up to 190-200. I lift heavy; no cute stuff. I've definitely gotten stronger (went from 195lb as my "alone" max in bench press in Jan to 235lb). I just can't put on weight right now, even eating more food.

The only cardio I do is basketball on the weekends and a 15 min ab routine Monday thru Friday.

I will say that I don't currently have a great living situation (no stove, don't eat much at home), but I'll be correcting that by the end of the month. I hope that being able to cook my own food will be the difference. For now I'm eating peanut butter at my desk at work between meals.
 
qcf x2 said:
I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, I think we've all felt that way at some point in time. On the other hand, I think most of us were, like, 16. Personally I work out hard before work, so a shower is necessary and the gym has individual stalls. There's always awkward moments (especially considering it's South Beach), but if you're a secure adult there's nothing to give cause for skipping a shower.

Anyway, maybe you guys can help me out. I'm 6'2, ~180. I was 192 at the beginning of the year but I had a surgery that sidelined me for about two months and I lost about 20 lbs in that span (mostly from lack of appetite during recovery). Since returning to the gym I've had renewed focus. I go five days a week, but I need help getting up to 190-200. I lift heavy; no cute stuff. I've definitely gotten stronger (went from 195lb as my "alone" max in bench press in Jan to 235lb). I just can't put on weight right now, even eating more food.

The only cardio I do is basketball on the weekends and a 15 min ab routine Monday thru Friday.

I will say that I don't currently have a great living situation (no stove, don't eat much at home), but I'll be correcting that by the end of the month. I hope that being able to cook my own food will be the difference. For now I'm eating peanut butter at my desk at work between meals.

Don't know what kind of help you want exactly.

Your lack of mass gain likely has to do with your overall calorie intake- if you are still eating the same amount you ate initially (as I expect you do since you are generally eating the same meal portion size when you eat out), you have your reason why. Your base metabolic rate has increased, whereas your overall caloric intake has not.

To correct that (if that is the problem) try to track what you eat (it should be pretty easy to do that since you eat out, I expect).


Also abs every weekday?

Ab workout regimens vary greatly, but from what I've gathered from my reading is that the benefits you get from ab workouts cap out if you work them out three times a week.

I assume your ab workout is AB Ripper X (as that is what it sounds like), and if so you are taking it out on your abs too hard my friend (especially with that program...that shit is HARD). You use your core in almost every (compound) exercise you do (e.g., Bench Press), and that *could* also be affecting your workouts. I would chill out your abs to 2-3 times a week (more than sufficient IMO).

Good to hear about another Peanut butter bro. My favorite food, and I could eat that shit all day. PB + oatmeal, try it!

Edit: It could also be time to change up your workout routine. Try something new (e.g. a 5/3/1 rep scheme).
 
effingvic said:
a question of etiquette,

do you guys shower in the gym or no?

i havent been in the gym since winter time and lately ive just been doing running and abs + calisthenics at home. im concerned about going to the gym, getting sweaty as fuck and come back home using the subway and bus and pissing everyone off with my BO. wasnt a big deal during the winter time since i was covered in layers of clothing but its like 85 on average outside so i wont have the same luxury.

i would probably have to just shower, but some days i might not get a chance to. i may sound like a dirty freak but those that dont shower in the gym, what do you do to prevent your BO from pissing everyone off?
I shower in the gym, no way would I get in my car drenched in sweat. I haven't seen more than a handful of guys shower so I guess most people don't have a problem getting sweat all over their seats.
 

Lamel

Banned
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Here's just a show off pic, this is after 3 months of working out. I had barely anything before, and now it's THAT. So I'm proud. Not bad?

The rest of me is coming along nicely as well, but won't post that ;)
 

qcf x2

Member
gburgess10 said:
Your lack of mass gain likely has to do with your overall calorie intake- if you are still eating the same amount you ate initially (as I expect you do since you are generally eating the same meal portion size when you eat out), you have your reason why. Your base metabolic rate has increased, whereas your overall caloric intake has not.



Ab workout regimens vary greatly, but from what I've gathered from my reading is that the benefits you get from ab workouts cap out if you work them out three times a week.


Edit: It could also be time to change up your workout routine. Try something new (e.g. a 5/3/1 rep scheme).


Sound advice, I figured as much about the calorie intake stuff, just helps to have it confirmed by someone else! I probably won't be able to start increasing my cals until the end of the month, but indeed I'll go a bit easy on the ab stuff. Thanks!
 

Casp0r

Banned
gburgess10 said:
That is a mass gainer. Now it might be what you need, but really that product is just a bunch of cheap crap. You would be MUCH better off eating regular food and supplementing with a whey powder, rather than using that.

They pack most mass gainers with cheap ass long-chain malodextrins and label them as containing "complex carbs" that are great for your body, when its just a bunch of long chain sugars. You're better off eating potatoes.

Buy something without so many carbs in it- Optimum Nutrition Whey. Another example from that site:
http://www.trec-nutrition.co.uk/protein-powders/whey-100-2275g.html

It'll last you much longer, and save you a lot of money. 1-2 scoops a serving, and just eat more real food. And it probably won't turn out to be mud at all (unless it is of questionable quality).

Ok cool thanks. However I am trying to gain mass at the moment, 2 years of really solid gym work with less than 5kg increase in weight got me frustrated. Oh and if I could eat better I would, however as much as I try I just can't eat enough.

Once I'm satisfied with my weight, I'll move onto something like that.
 

Jay Sosa

Member
Hi..has been some time since I posted here(think that's the first in the 3..)

Anyway..I want to order some Whey Protein.

I usually buy On Gold Standard which is pretty good but since there are way cheaper alterbnatives that do get some pretty decent reviews I wanted to ask what you guys think.

The shop I order from has these:

100% Whey/EAS International

Complete Whey/Cytosport

Zero Isobest/Scitec Nutrition

Elite Whey Protein Isolate/Dymatize

100% Whey Protein Professional/Scitec Nutrition

CFM Whey Protein/Weider

What would you guys pick?

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: Btw I'm cutting right now so I have to watch carbs.
 

Veezy

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qcf x2 said:
I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, I think we've all felt that way at some point in time. On the other hand, I think most of us were, like, 16. Personally I work out hard before work, so a shower is necessary and the gym has individual stalls. There's always awkward moments (especially considering it's South Beach), but if you're a secure adult there's nothing to give cause for skipping a shower.

Anyway, maybe you guys can help me out. I'm 6'2, ~180. I was 192 at the beginning of the year but I had a surgery that sidelined me for about two months and I lost about 20 lbs in that span (mostly from lack of appetite during recovery). Since returning to the gym I've had renewed focus. I go five days a week, but I need help getting up to 190-200. I lift heavy; no cute stuff. I've definitely gotten stronger (went from 195lb as my "alone" max in bench press in Jan to 235lb). I just can't put on weight right now, even eating more food.

The only cardio I do is basketball on the weekends and a 15 min ab routine Monday thru Friday.

I will say that I don't currently have a great living situation (no stove, don't eat much at home), but I'll be correcting that by the end of the month. I hope that being able to cook my own food will be the difference. For now I'm eating peanut butter at my desk at work between meals.

On the shower, I'd tend to agree. There's nothing wrong with public showers and I'd force myself to do it, if I ever had to. However, I have a pretty nasty case of body dysmorphic disorder mixed with social anxiety. So going to the gym when people are there is enough of a mental task as it is.

As for the gaining weight thing, you may want to considering dropping down to 3-4 days in the gym, per week. Especially if you basketball on the weekends. That's a few hours of working out. If you swapped to something like 5/3/1, as gburgess10 recommended, you can hit the gym 4 days a week, get plenty of ab work in order to cut out the other stuff you're doing, and still play basketball. Grayskull LP might work well for you, too. You'd only be in the gym 3 days a week, but what you're doing on the side right now would fit right in.

It seems like the main struggle might be with food. Find ways to add easy calories to fix that. If you can't cook, flax seed on meals and whole milk helps. You're already doing peanut butter, try slapping it in-between some Ezekiel 4:9 bread, if you have easy access to a fridge to keep the bread. If don't mind some extra fats, Power Butter peanut butter is pretty good. 4 tablespoons has 32g of protein.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Tried out the EAS Whey Protein 23g per scoop this morning. I added in a scoop of cookies 'n cream ice cream along with 2 cups of whole milk. Tasted just great. I think I counted up close to 40g of protein with the 2 cups and one scoop of whey protein.
 
I always have 1 bag of chocolate EAS and 1 of vanilla, so when I get sick of one I switch to the other or mix them. I've tried different ones that friends bought and I think this tastes the best to me. Might also be cuz it's cheap. Also I only drink it straight right after gym on the drive home, so I'm thirsty and hungry and just about anything will taste good. I never measure, I just pour water and shake until it looks like a good consistency to drink. About 2.5 scoops works for me.

I used to buy the Jarrow 100% unflavored whey. It was just whey powder, no sweeteners or flavoring, so I'd mix it with Silk soy milk for flavor. But it was a hassle to pre-mix it at home and then keep it refrigerated all day at work.
 

MjFrancis

Member
My vacation doubled as a deload week. No barbell lifting and few bodyweight exercises. I did squats every day, pull-ups here and there, a few hill sprint sessions and a lot of hiking and walking.

My favorite test over the vacation was carrying my 67lbs niece on my shoulders in the evening heat for 1 1/2 miles.

I wanted to go the full 2 1/2 mile walk, but carrying a little person on a walk is a lot different than carrying a barbell. A child is very squirmy and loud. I periodically had to ask her to stop squeaking in my ear, stop swatting at her sister, and stop trying to catch butterflies while precariously perched atop my shoulders. Despite a few workouts like the one above (+80 yard hill sprints, etc), I didn't do as much as I had hoped and my physique softened up a good bit.

It felt good picking up my barbell again here at home for the first time in ten days, and resuming something more like training and less like working out.
 

MjFrancis

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Glad to be back! Without Masta_Killah posting here either, the number of Bruce Lee avatars drops substantially. Too bad. I'll still probably post less, given my present schedule. Between family, work, games and training, internet time gets a much lower priority.
 

X-Frame

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Jason's Ultimatum said:
Weren't multivitamins proven to ineffectual? There seems to be a lot more studies coming out against them.

How would multi-vitamins be ineffective?

The only thing I can think of is absorption ..
 

ezrarh

Member
Jason's Ultimatum said:
Weren't multivitamins proven to ineffectual? There seems to be a lot more studies coming out against them.

This site seems to have a good overview on effectiveness of supplements along with the appropriate reference.
 
I would assume multis can be more or less effective depending on how they are taken. I try to take them after a good fatty meal so I don't just piss it out and to aid the fat soluble nutrients. I have no idea if they help though. How exactly would you test that? I'm pretty sure most people who can afford vitamins aren't malnourished in the first place. Their macros may be wildly off balance, which vitamins can't do anything about.
 

X-Frame

Member
I have a chemistry set of supplements here that I saved after I hurt my shoulder in 2007. I don't know if they're all still good to take again, but I can't remember what half of them do.
 
Alright, so I started weight lifting recently (thanks to the great advice from the weight loss thread). Is it normal to start with a really weak bench? I'm always been decently strong, but when it comes to lifting, my numbers are terrible.
 

X-Frame

Member
Mr. Serious Business said:
Alright, so I started weight lifting recently (thanks to the great advice from the weight loss thread). Is it normal to start with a really weak bench? I'm always been decently strong, but when it comes to lifting, my numbers are terrible.

Maybe you're stronger in more functional manners? What about push-ups? How many full ones can you do for one set?

Though it's likely that your nervous system hasn't been tuned to perform the lift yet if you're new. You can actually "get good" at performing lifts, and when the nervous system starts to wake up neurons to fire motor units in your pushing muscles for that particular lift you'll notice the strength skyrocket.

That's the basic idea behind the Novice Effect. Weak, inexperienced lifters don't have much motor unit firing in their muscles. And that's why something like Starting Strength has people repeat the same basic movements week in and week out so that newbies can start to get good at the lifts.
 
An old female coworker left a box of women's vitamin packs at the office a few years ago. I checked all the ingredients online and they were pretty much all the same as what was in the men's vitamins from that same company, so I took them. Maybe this is tmi, but something in those pills gave me rock solid raging hardons at random times throughout the day. I felt like I was 12 again.
 
parrotbeak said:
An old female coworker left a box of women's vitamin packs at the office a few years ago. I checked all the ingredients online and they were pretty much all the same as what was in the men's vitamins from that same company, so I took them. Maybe this is tmi, but something in those pills gave me rock solid raging hardons at random times throughout the day. I felt like I was 12 again.

It must have been...the...estrogen...???

I'm baffled.
 
X-Frame said:
Maybe you're stronger in more functional manners? What about push-ups? How many full ones can you do for one set?

Though it's likely that your nervous system hasn't been tuned to perform the lift yet if you're new. You can actually "get good" at performing lifts, and when the nervous system starts to wake up neurons to fire motor units in your pushing muscles for that particular lift you'll notice the strength skyrocket.

That's the basic idea behind the Novice Effect. Weak, inexperienced lifters don't have much motor unit firing in their muscles. And that's why something like Starting Strength has people repeat the same basic movements week in and week out so that newbies can start to get good at the lifts.

I can usually do close to 50 pushups. But for some reason, whenever I try to lift weights, I sort of tense up, my grip sucks, and it feels unnatural. I wobble a bit. Truth be told, all of my prior weight lifting was with machines, so that's probably screwing me up.
 
parrotbeak said:
An old female coworker left a box of women's vitamin packs at the office a few years ago. I checked all the ingredients online and they were pretty much all the same as what was in the men's vitamins from that same company, so I took them. Maybe this is tmi, but something in those pills gave me rock solid raging hardons at random times throughout the day. I felt like I was 12 again.

A lot of women's vitamins have additives that help menstrual cramps and irregularities and other conditions. This link explains more. One that I found particularly interesting:


"Wild Yam Extract. Wild Yam is used as a natural alternative for estrogen replacement therapy. It is helpful for postmenopausal vaginal dryness, premenstrual syndrome, osteoporosis, increasing energy and libido in men and women and for breast enlargement. Wild Yam is also used orally for treating diverticulosis, gallbladder colic, painful menstruation, cramp, rheumatoid arthritis and for increasing energy."
 

Veezy

que?
So I'm at the gym catching up on some accessory work (hamstring curls, leg press, dumbbell side bends), and see this guy doing butterfly kipping pull ups. For those of you who don't know what they are, watch this video:

Butterly Kipping

I'm assuming he was doing some Crossfit chipper workout, cause we was doing A LOT of these. They, he fell. Kinda like this.

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So, pro tip, use chalk and don't flail like a moron when your a few feet up in the air. You avoid a SLAP tear that way.
 

Veezy

que?
My favorite part of the video that gif came from:

Amazing training session.

Is at the end where the "trainer" tosses his stopwatch to the side, in complete disgust.

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I'm sure are much more creative gaffers that could do more with the gifs than I.
 

BobDylan

Member
well I have officially decided its time to bulk up. I have found a workout plan that will help me gain muscle. I have always kept in decent shape but never really filled out. I am 22 years old, 6 foot 1 inch and 140 pounds. I have always just been ok with my body but as im getting older I realize its more important to take care of it and stay in shape so its time to take the plunge. I used to work out some what regularly but just basic running and cardio. im gonna start lifting weights and really trying to watch what I eat. Hopefully in a few months I can check back in and show you guys what I have been up to.
 

Aurora

Member
Do any of you incorporate TRX into your training? I started using it for the first time over the past week and I'm having a lot of fun with it.
 

Simplet

Member
Veezy said:
So I'm at the gym catching up on some accessory work (hamstring curls, leg press, dumbbell side bends), and see this guy doing butterfly kipping pull ups. For those of you who don't know what they are, watch this video:

Butterly Kipping

I'm assuming he was doing some Crossfit chipper workout, cause we was doing A LOT of these.

wtf that looks really ugly what's the point of doing those? It just looks like really really sloppy pull-ups.
 
Simplet said:
wtf that looks really ugly what's the point of doing those? It just looks like really really sloppy pull-ups.

In Crosstif kipping pull-ups are used as more of a metabolic conditinioning exercise rather than a pure strength or bodybuilding exercise. You can do a lot more kipping pull-ups in a shorter amount of time which increases the power output and creates a greater metabolic demand on your body. Anyone who has tried, for example, Crossfit workout Fran will know how taxing these kind of pull-ups are even if they look like you're cheating...
 

TheFatOne

Member
I started lifting again and the weirdest thing happened to me. When I woke up yesterday I pulled my calf muscle in my right leg, and when I woke up today I pulled my calf muscle in my left leg. So damn weird.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Rabbitweed said:
In Crosstif kipping pull-ups are used as more of a metabolic conditinioning exercise rather than a pure strength or bodybuilding exercise. You can do a lot more kipping pull-ups in a shorter amount of time which increases the power output and creates a greater metabolic demand on your body. Anyone who has tried, for example, Crossfit workout Fran will know how taxing these kind of pull-ups are even if they look like you're cheating...


It really does look like cheating, but isn't it kind of anyway? It seems you're simply cheating to allow yourself to do more to achieve a goal.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
TheFatOne said:
I started lifting again and the weirdest thing happened to me. When I woke up yesterday I pulled my calf muscle in my right leg, and when I woke up today I pulled my calf muscle in my left leg. So damn weird.
You are dehydrated. Drink water.
 
Alienshogun said:
It really does look like cheating, but isn't it kind of anyway? It seems you're simply cheating to allow yourself to do more to achieve a goal.

It's a different movement with a different purpose when compared to strict/dead hang pull-ups. It's a bit like comparing push press or a jerk to a strict shoulder press. And when you can do a shit load of kipping pull-ups you will probably do a decent amount of strict pull ups too.

Today's WOD (work out of the day) at crossfit.com actually involves strict pullups. My hat's off to anyone here who can finish this in under 20 mins.. I know I couldn't do it due to the HSPU's.

For time:
21 Pull-ups
21 Handstand Push-ups
18 Pull-ups
18 Handstand Push-ups
15 Pull-ups
15 Handstand Push-ups
12 Pull-ups
12 Handstand Push-ups
9 Pull-ups
9 Handstand Push-ups
6 Pull-ups
6 Handstand Push-ups
3 Pull-ups
3 Handstand Push-ups
Handstand push-ups are "nose to floor" and pull-ups are "strict" or non-kipping.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Kipping pull-ups are difficult. You might think it's cheating, but it takes a lot more training to get the swinging motion right than it does just doing a strict pull-up. You have to learn how to balance your momentum and pull-up with your moment. It's all difficult, just different degrees of it. I don't consider it cheating.

Besides, I imagine it improves agility/mobility (which is huge in Crossfit).
 
Alienshogun said:
It really does look like cheating, but isn't it kind of anyway? It seems you're simply cheating to allow yourself to do more to achieve a goal.

It definately makes pullups easier. Crossfit logic is, do enough of anything and its a workout. Personally I like to stick to dead hang, especially no knee-raise, to ensure I can accurately track my progress. Crossfit logic is, if you're dead tired at the end, it was a good workout.

I doubt I could do 50 kipping pullups in one go, so props for that.
 

X-Frame

Member
Nose to floor? So they're hyperextending their neck while upside down? Or am I imagining it wrong ..

I thought you keep your neck in a neutral position and touch your scalp to the floor.
 
Crossfit seems kinda pointless for me unless I was apart of some special ops team. My buddy is ex SF and he did crossfit along with a lot of swimming and running to prepare himself for two weeks of hell.
 

Veezy

que?
Rabbitweed said:
In Crosstif kipping pull-ups are used as more of a metabolic conditinioning exercise rather than a pure strength or bodybuilding exercise. You can do a lot more kipping pull-ups in a shorter amount of time which increases the power output and creates a greater metabolic demand on your body. Anyone who has tried, for example, Crossfit workout Fran will know how taxing these kind of pull-ups are even if they look like you're cheating...
The problem with the kipping/butterfly pull up is twofold:

1. There are better activities that can help with conditioning. Speaking of Fran, specifically, a barbell complex is superior in every way.
2. It's very dangerous. I'm at work, so I don't have my references on me, but just go to the Crossfit injuries board and search for SLAP tear/injury/lesion. That motion causes intense amounts of pressure on the shoulder joint and the forearms. I'm not even gonna get into the whole "look, I split my hand open doing a hundred pull ups and I'm proud" attitude that comes with that movement.

@TheFatOne

relio is correct. You might want to add a pinch of salt with ever liter so you can get the electrolytes you need, as well. Drinking a ton of water helps, but if you don’t have the electrolytes to actually retain the water you’ll piss most of it out.

EDIT:

The "kipping pull ups gives you more regual pull ups" arguement is false. It doesn't build any real upper body strength. Sure, it might help you if you've never done a pull up before, but the movement is all momentum, not strength. Also, that type of WOD is the exactly reason I quit Crossfit. Nose to ground handstand pushups? And then jumping on a bar to do kipps? That will DESTROY your shoulder.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Jason's Ultimatum said:
Crossfit seems kinda pointless unless I was apart of some special ops team. My buddy is ex SF and he did crossfit along with a lot of swimming and running to prepare himself for two weeks of hell.
I don't think you can look at Crossfit that way 100%. Sure, it can be looked at as a more advanced regimen and it's why, like you say, a lot of ex-SF and MMA fighters parttake in it, but regular people that aren't looking to be as big, strong, and downright elite get benefits from it, too.

The WOD are designed to be a goal that the advanced trainees can keep track of, sure, but I have always been told to scale it to what I can do and what my body can handle, and to pace myself. It's no different than benching or squatting 50lbs less than the guy next to you. You're still doing the same exercise.
 

Chichikov

Member
Jason's Ultimatum said:
Crossfit seems kinda pointless for me unless I was apart of some special ops team. My buddy is ex SF and he did crossfit along with a lot of swimming and running to prepare himself for two weeks of hell.
Do you think special forces use special muscles?
 
reilo said:
I don't think you can look at Crossfit that way 100%. Sure, it can be looked at as a more advanced regimen and it's why, like you say, a lot of ex-SF and MMA fighters parttake in it, but regular people that aren't looking to be as big, strong, and downright elite get benefits from it, too.

Eh, more power to you if like doing CF, but if I wanted to wear myself out, I'll just go running and biking. That's all the endurance I need.
 
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