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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

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Veezy

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So my shoulder was acting up after my 3s day on bench. Luckily, K Star did a video on shoulder pain/mobility back on 7/9 that I hadn't seen yet. I recommend trying it out if your shoulders hurting from a lot of overhead/pressing work.

Shoulder Work.

Here's another good one set of mobility work I do every few days for my knee pain. Clears it up and is much safer than a cortisone shot. Those, BTW, suck.

Knee pain reduction.

Stay strong, folks.
 

Lamel

Banned
Alright I have around 30 minutes til my workout.

I want to work out my triceps so I do Close Grip BP. But I also want to press, which works deltoids and triceps. However doing both those exercises in the same day can be very taxing on my arms. Should I just press? Will the results not be as good as the CGBP?
 
Saadster said:
Alright I have around 30 minutes til my workout.

I want to work out my triceps so I do Close Grip BP. But I also want to press, which works deltoids and triceps. However doing both those exercises in the same day can be very taxing on my arms. Should I just press? Will the results not be as good as the CGBP?

I usually do both. OHP, CB Bench, chins, and dips in that order. Sometimes I switch it up a bit depending on what I want to focus more on but I always do the OHP first. What other arm exercises are you doing?
 

Lamel

Banned
FallingEdge said:
I usually do both. OHP, CB Bench, chins, and dips in that order. It is tiring but I like CB Bench to much to just give it up. What other arm exercises are you doing?

Well today I am going to be doing squats, bent-over rows, CGBP, press, wrist curls and planks/leg raises.

I don't know why but if I do CGBP before the press, the press becomes difficult. If I press before the CGBP, then I risk having the bar fall on my chest (I don't have a spotter as I work out alone). Maybe I should lessen the weight? The problem I have with that is that I can do the exercises heavier individually.

I will try to do both today and perhaps lessen the weight of the CGBP.
 

Lamel

Banned
X-Frame said:
Maybe do the OHP first, and then the CGBP last which gives your pushing muscles a chance to recover?

Yeah that's the plan, I'll rest a little more too. Hopefully all goes well.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Fivefingers just arrived. Took a while to get the left one on since I my pinkie toe is curved under a little. I imagine these will actually correct that.
 
What's the rationale for OHP always before CGBP?

Fivefingers just arrived. Took a while to get the left one on since I my pinkie toe is curved under a little. I imagine these will actually correct that.
Cool. My pinkie is too although I just thought that's how pinkies were.

My feet got a little tired the first day I wore them, but I did calf stretches (toes pressed against a wall) and they were fine.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
parrotbeak said:
What's the rationale for OHP always before CGBP?


Cool. My pinkie is too although I just thought that's how pinkies were.

My feet got a little tired the first day I wore them, but I did calf stretches (toes pressed against a wall) and they were fine.


Do you wear them everywhere or just to work out?
 
Veezy said:
Stronglifts 5x5 is a poor program looking at it from either the angle of "best beginner working out program" or "best aesthetic program." There's just, flat out, too much volume. Seventy-five squats, per week, when you're adding an additional 5lbs on the bar, that's 125#s volume per day, is a lot.

What you're switching to will work, but it's still a lot of actual volume. Bodybuilders, in my experience, aim for 10-15 reps. If the hit 15, they go heavier. Well, except for your freaks who push 200lb dumbbell bench for 20.

If you're looking to just do some compound exercise and mostly accessory exercises, 5/3/1 will work. You're big lifts will go up substantially less, but you'll have fun doing hack squats, skull crushers, good mornings, shrugs, etc. You'll notice a difference in your appearance in a few months, maybe sooner, if you focus on your nutrition.

Or, you could cut back the volume and switch to a program like Grayskull LP. Then, if you're up for it after your lifts, do some curls or some incline bench. It's not gonna kill you. I strongly recommend just buying one of those door frame pull up bars and just doing some push ups and pull ups throughout the day. Maybe throw in some fasted walking in the morning if you're looking to cut more calories.

Also, chemical enhancers work pretty good. This was a joke.

Thanks. I should of said I've been only using the 5x5 as a guide now that I kind of maxed out on it for my weight, I added a lot of other exercises and just increase my weights based on what feels right now. I was doing such high reps based on the chart that showed the positive effects on sarcoplasmic hypertrophy.

I'll check out the 5/3/1 workout and just do 3 x 12 reps until I find something better, I already do push ups, pull ups everyday but I've been slacking on my walking and cardio.
 
Alienshogun said:
Ok, good, you had me a little confused with that sentence, haha. I could never wear these things anywhere except to and from the gym.
Oh, I meant the first day I wore at the gym. Was doing squats and my feet started to get tight.
 
Jason's Ultimatum said:
I hate it when I'm squatting, everything is going great, and then the last few reps sometimes it's like my body becomes loosen and my knees push foward. Then you pause for a brief second and go down making sure you drive up with your hips.
This happened to me a few days ago (lost tension in my posterior chain, knees slid forward), and I think I tore my meniscus.

So definitely watch out for it!
 
I started doing the machine that works your hips where you push outwards. The va-jay-jay machine. I felt a little soreness around my left hip area. I haven't done this machine in years, so i'm hoping it may help with my squat.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Jason's Ultimatum said:
I hate it when I'm squatting, everything is going great, and then the last few reps sometimes it's like my body loosens up and my knees push foward.
Make sure that your knees are pushing outwards while pushing from your heels, not your toes. You'll start feeling your inner-thigh near your nether-regions picking up the slack.
 

abuC

Member
Any good biceps routines? I've pretty much neglected my biceps for almost a year. They aren't completely weak since I can curl 70lbs with each hand around 6 times but they look really under developed in comparison to ny shoulders and triceps. So what are some good routines, I plan on giving them their own day now.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
abuC said:
Any good biceps routines? I've pretty much neglected my biceps for almost a year. They aren't completely weak since I can curl 70lbs with each hand around 6 times but they look really under developed in comparison to ny shoulders and triceps. So what are some good routines, I plan on giving them their own day now.
Chin-ups with varying hand-grip, weighted vest, etc.
 
Price Dalton said:
This happened to me a few days ago (lost tension in my posterior chain, knees slid forward), and I think I tore my meniscus.

So definitely watch out for it!
This post made me cringe. I'm glad I'm done with squats for this week.
 

Wark

Member
I've been wanting to start lifting and decided going to the gym would be better than buying expensive in the long run. Today I decided to run up to the local gym, World Gym, and get some info and a tour of the place. Overall the place seems to have everything I want, the staff seems nice, and the price isn't bad at all. I decided I'm going to do the free 7-day trial and check a few other places before I jump into anything.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
abuC said:
I'm 6"1 last I checked it was 18%, I plan on being around 220lbs by October.
Looks like you're well on your way to getting there! Good luck.
 

Lamel

Banned
Update, I took off 5 pounds from my CGBP and did the CGBP and OHP in that order. I was able to do them both very well, although the last two OHP reps made me work hard, but it felt good.
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
I made an appointment to get my ACL repaired. The rehab is a bitch but I have to do it again. Until I scheduled the appointment I hadn't realized I re-tore it 4 years ago. I'll maintain my upper body without much trouble but it is going to take some time to regain my lower body strength. Oh well.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Cooter said:
I made an appointment to get my ACL repaired. The rehab is a bitch but I have to do it again. Until I scheduled the appointment I hadn't realized I re-tore it 4 years ago. I'll maintain my upper body without much trouble but it is going to take some time to regain my lower body strength. Oh well.
Whoa. You re-tore it 4 years ago and didn't know it until now? Damn. Oddly enough, it's not uncommon that I hear these kinds of stories, but 4 years? That's crazy.

Good luck with the rehab.
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
reilo said:
Whoa. You re-tore it 4 years ago and didn't know it until now? Damn. Oddly enough, it's not uncommon that I hear these kinds of stories, but 4 years? That's crazy.

Good luck with the rehab.

I knew the second I did it. Chose not to have surgery due to money and time concerns. Re-injured it a year ago on the court and haven't play since.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Ok, so first day using these vibram five fingers and I didn't feel any discomfort or change in how my foot felt EXCEPT when I got a weird feeling in my ankle as I unracked a 45 plate. But it only lasted a second.

I did legs today. Squats, deads, romanian deads, lunges, calf raises, extensions and leg curls.

Overall it felt like I had more control of my motions especially with squats/deads and lunges.

Again, I don't really feel any of the discomfort or muscle fatigue most report, but I just finished an hour ago. This could be because I typically wear flat soled converse all the time, but I don't know.

I may feel it later.

I really like these things.
 

ItAintEasyBeinCheesy

it's 4th of July in my asshole
Couldnt find a clean shirt the other day so wore a shirt with a brand of liquor on it. Everyone had protein this, muscle that...... and im rocking the booze shirt. Lots of looks, good fun.
 
Alienshogun said:
Fivefingers just arrived. Took a while to get the left one on since I my pinkie toe is curved under a little. I imagine these will actually correct that.

I saw a guy wearing those at the gym the other day. I sort of want a pair.
 

deadbeef

Member
Guys, just get the New Balance Minimus. The trail version has a vibram sole, it feels great, and doesn't look like some sort of troll or elf shoe.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
deadbeef said:
Guys, just get the New Balance Minimus. The trail version has a vibram sole, it feels great, and doesn't look like some sort of troll or elf shoe.


If that's the case, why not just use flat bottom converse?

I like the toe freedom in these.
 
gaf bros,

anyone use cell-tech hardcore pro series? i hear a lot of mixed feelings on this, and people on bodybuilding.com apparently consider it a joke.

my girl hooked me up with a few sample packets, but im not sure if i should take it or not. all i really know about creatine is that it makes you bloated, which im kinda iffy about. im already taking nitro-tech post workouts, so should i even bother with this?

im looking at the back and one serving has 75 grams of sugar. holy crap o_O
 

X-Frame

Member
deadbeef said:
Guys, just get the New Balance Minimus. The trail version has a vibram sole, it feels great, and doesn't look like some sort of troll or elf shoe.

There's a "Trainer" version of the Minimus apparently, but on the site it doesn't mention that it is made with a Vibram sole. It's also not showcased as a Minimus either along with the Trail, Road, and Life versions.

Eric Cressey wrote a favorable review of the "Trainer" version here:

Eric Cressey - NB Trainer
 

Veezy

que?
Vibram fans, question for you:

Why do you prefer to lift in those versus actual lifting shoes? I only ask because I've lifted barefoot, when wearing running shoes by mistake, versus my Rippeote .5in heel shoes and noticed a significant difference in stability and the ability to drive the bar up. Not asking to be a douche, just wanting to know if you folks find it easier to squat heavy in the Vibrams.

Some other fitness oddities:

Did ya know that Crossfit has teamed up with Reebok to sell clothing items? Did ya know that includes a one hundred fucking dollar zip up hoodie?

Here's a shirtless asshole teaching you how to hack squat, except it's not hack squatting.

Finally, had a shitty day at the gym Friday. Got through my squats, which suck after weeks of not being able to do an leg training due to knee pain, and then my knee started fucking up again. Did some good mornings and had to bail on my hack squats. Spent an hour at home doing rehab on my knees. Feels bad to go from squatting 320 for five to 320 for one feeling like I'm gonna die. I can't wait till fall comes around and I can get back on my shit diet to get my awesome strength gains back.
 

deadbeef

Member
Alienshogun said:
If that's the case, why not just use flat bottom converse?

I like the toe freedom in these.
The NB looks more like a conventional sneaker and I like wearing it around when I would normally wear sneakers, while I think Converse look pretty crappy.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
deadbeef said:
The NB looks more like a conventional sneaker and I like wearing it around when I would normally wear sneakers, while I think Converse look pretty crappy.


I love me some converse!


Anyhow, I would definitely recommend these five fingers for lifting, Monday I will see how they are running.

Veezy said:
Vibram fans, question for you:

Why do you prefer to lift in those versus actual lifting shoes? I only ask because I've lifted barefoot, when wearing running shoes by mistake, versus my Rippeote .5in heel shoes and noticed a significant difference in stability and the ability to drive the bar up. Not asking to be a douche, just wanting to know if you folks find it easier to squat heavy in the Vibrams.


Like I said last post. I used them for leg day yesterday and felt noticeably more stable, and was able to control my hip drive much better.

That said, I've never used weightlifting shoes before, also I won't only be lifting in them. I'll be running too.

Also, lunges were way more stable than usual for me.
 

twofold

Member
Veezy said:
Vibram fans, question for you:

Why do you prefer to lift in those versus actual lifting shoes? I only ask because I've lifted barefoot, when wearing running shoes by mistake, versus my Rippeote .5in heel shoes and noticed a significant difference in stability and the ability to drive the bar up. Not asking to be a douche, just wanting to know if you folks find it easier to squat heavy in the Vibrams.

I did some squats today barefoot and with a mates Nike weightlifting shoes. I can't see how the Vibrams could ever compare to a proper weightlifting shoe, unless they magically improve barefoot lifting 10x to match the weightlifting shoes. I felt so stable in the Nikes and it felt so much smoother/easier when squatting down.

I've just ordered some Pendlay shoes after my experience today - can't wait to get them now.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Just curious, when does everyone do their grip strengthening?

I usually just finish with farmer carries after leg day, but yesterday I was too exhausted to even bother. I may have to switch them shoulder day or something.
 
Alienshogun said:
Just curious, when does everyone do their grip strengthening?

I usually just finish with farmer carries after leg day, but yesterday I was too exhausted to even bother. I may have to switch them shoulder day or something.
It seems to just go up with my dead lifting but I used to do the exercise with the rope and pipe to get it up to speed.
 
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