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[Veezy]

No worries, I've actually been compiling a lot of the info that Veezy has posted and am planning on adding it to the OP today on my lunch break.

Need a good 2-day/week routine and looking at 5/3/1, but considering using/modifying Grayskull as well.

Let me know if you want some various templates for Grayskull besides the base, I know a few of those. I put a female friend of mine on one template for women and she had great success. Obligatory dat azz.

As for a good 2 day per week program, the only one I know of is, as you said, 5/3/1 with one day being press/dead and the other day being bench/squat.

You could do that with Grayskull as well, 5/3/1 being for your experienced lifter with less time and Grayskull being for a novice with no time. Now that I think about it, it's still 240lbs of increase on the squat/dead and 120lbs increase in the presses, per year. Which isn't bad, at all.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Yeah, that's sorta what I'm going between right now. I know 5/3/1 will give me results, but I've only ever done the original 4-day routine, and am worried about being dead tired at the end if I compress it to 2.

I've never tried Grayskull, so that's my main motivation to compress it to 2 days a week and give it a shot.

 

[blanky]

Check the video Alien posted and actually watch any Rippetoe videos you can find and read Starting Strength, especially the squat and deadlift chapters, cuz those are the exercises that could really hurt you if done incorrectly, but are simple enough to learn correctly by book. But to answer your immediate question, I start at feet and think of pushing off the floor with my heels, then extend hips.

I would not recommend learning power cleans or any of those olympic lifts (snatch, clean and variations) by yourself. They are very complex and ideally you need people who know them to watch you do it. Easy to get hurt doing them incorrectly.

To go back to your original question on squatting 3x a week, if you're starting SS or a beginner's program, you should ease into the routine fine because you're starting with a low weight and probably not doing much else besides the program. If you're also doing a lot of other leg/back work, squatting 3x a week will probably suck and might not be good for you. But if you're concentrating on this one program and start at an appropriately light weight, your body should adjust fine. You can start adding more leg work later.

Then what should I do to replace the power clean? The gym doesn't really have teachers here I think.

 

[deadbeef]

Yeah, that's sorta what I'm going between right now. I know 5/3/1 will give me results, but I've only ever done the original 4-day routine, and am worried about being dead tired at the end if I compress it to 2.

I've never tried Grayskull, so that's my main motivation to compress it to 2 days a week and give it a shot.

Here is what Wendler recommends in the book. He also says no deloads for this. Keep us updated!


Week 1
Monday
Thursday
Squat Bench
• Assistance Work
Deadlift Military
• Assistance Work
Week 2
Same as week 1
For your assistance work, I would pick one or two exercises per lift (so, 2-4 total assistance lifts) per day.

 

[Veezy]

Then what should I do to replace the power clean? The gym doesn't really have teachers here I think.

Chin ups/pull ups is a common replacement.

 

[mr stroke]

Then what should I do to replace the power clean? The gym doesn't really have teachers here I think.

You could try hang cleans to start. Power Cleans/Hang Cleans really aren't that hard, they just take lots of practice. Just watch youtube videos and practice.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Here is what Wendler recommends in the book. He also says no deloads for this. Keep us updated!


Week 1
Monday
Thursday
Squat Bench
• Assistance Work
Deadlift Military
• Assistance Work
Week 2
Same as week 1
For your assistance work, I would pick one or two exercises per lift (so, 2-4 total assistance lifts) per day.

I'm looking to change routines in the next month, so I'll definitely let you guys know. That's probably exactly what I'd do...not sure if I'll be able to do it with the BBB accessory work, that shit KILLS me, ahha.

Updated the OP!

 

[Yami]

You're doing too much.

Are you doing all of those exercises every lifting day? If so that sounds like a lot of volume. Try limiting yourself to 4 exercises per WO.

Here's an example:

WO A:
Squat
Bench
Pullups
curls

WO B:
Deadlift
Overhead Press
Seated cable rows
corework

As for your arms, you can expect them to develop more slowly than your legs. Pay no mind to the gorillas in your gym with overly developed upper halves, thats just the product of years of neglecting their lower half. After following a balanced routine for 6 months you can start to look at adding volume to your arms if you still want to.

Hah, yeah, reading back it does look like a lot but I don't usually do every single one on each workout day. Usually I keep my squats going as well as bench and the seated row as my main ones I do each lifting day, but the others are slotted in depending on how I'm feeling. I don't think I've done a single day where I've done all of the listed, but I think I'll probably break it down to different exercises on different days.

Apart from that, does the schedule sound about right? I'm feeling a lot better on a day to day basis since I've started which definitely is a positive!

Cheers guys, and keep up the hard work. Eat clean, lift dirty hah.

 

[X-Frame]

Personal Trainer Rant Incoming:

I feel ashamed to have worked at the same gym as some of the trainers I see working there now.

I was just at the gym watching this little sexy, cute 100 pound trainer putting this poor overweight woman through an unnecessarily challenging workout. I'm there right next to them doing my reverse lunges for 20 reps with 5 pounds in each hand, repping them out -- and next to me this trainer gave this woman 15 pound dumbbells to do the exact same exercise yet she couldn't even do 1 correct rep. She was off balance, staggering, almost falling over, couldn't touch the ground, pain face, etc.

It's obviously too heavy for her! She shouldn't even be TOUCHING a weight until she can do all these things with just her bodyweight, and because she's overweight that is more than enough of a workout for weeks too come.

Really sad. At least I give the trainer credit for putting this woman through box squats, but that was the only thing that was "safe" for this client.

I bet she's going to go home and be sore for a week straight, and if this keeps up develop some joint aches.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

I was just at the gym watching this little sexy, cute 100 pound trainer

perv

 

[borghe]

gave my second real attempt at strict close pushups. index fingers touching and arms as close to my body as possible while still being comfortable. 2 seconds down, chest lightly touching backs of my hands, pause 1 second, 2 seconds back up.

omfg.... this is fucking crazy. I've done "diamond" pushups before where my forearms were practically touching the ground, but closing your elbow up even further to get your chest to your hands is just brutal. better range of motion, more work on the triceps, etc... BRUTAL I SAY!! managed 5/3/3 this week.

also have graduated to close squats (heels touching. hamstrings touching my calves. can't physically lower myself any further) ... weird that I can't do them for shit barefoot.... can't balance without tipping backwards. In my work shoes I can pretty much make it down but only get like one off before tipping back on the second or so. My running shoes I did 5/4/4 this week. very happy.

for those following convict conditioning, here are my remaining stats:

pullups (strict, non-kipping), 15/10/8 (goal is 20/20/x before moving to the rocky-style one armed)
bridges (straight bridge.. second step) 33/23/15
handstand pushups (half HSPU) 14/10/8
leglifts (feet pointed, knees locked/ "master step" in CC) 13/12/10 (these are fucked though, because I don't have anything anywhere near high enough to hang from, so I have to hold myself up in a half pullup to have the height... could probably kill this with just a loose hang)

for reference when I stopped lifting weights I think I was around:

150lbs x 8 bench press
200lbs x 5 squat (just below parallel)
45lbs x 10 dumbbell curl
125lb x 8 OHP

and the above numbers are all improvements on where I started. Most startling to me though was the relatively noob status on the bridges, though I'm guessing that's mostly due to lack of any real spinal strength. I can get myself up in a god awful bridge. arms totally bent, legs bent, back and head clearly off the floor... so I am starting over from scratch on them.. should be to the third step by next week.

Personal Trainer Rant Incoming:

I feel ashamed to have worked at the same gym as some of the trainers I see working there now.

I was just at the gym watching this little sexy, cute 100 pound trainer putting this poor overweight woman through an unnecessarily challenging workout. I'm there right next to them doing my reverse lunges for 20 reps with 5 pounds in each hand, repping them out -- and next to me this trainer gave this woman 15 pound dumbbells to do the exact same exercise yet she couldn't even do 1 correct rep. She was off balance, staggering, almost falling over, couldn't touch the ground, pain face, etc.

It's obviously too heavy for her! She shouldn't even be TOUCHING a weight until she can do all these things with just her bodyweight, and because she's overweight that is more than enough of a workout for weeks too come.

Really sad. At least I give the trainer credit for putting this woman through box squats, but that was the only thing that was "safe" for this client.

I bet she's going to go home and be sore for a week straight, and if this keeps up develop some joint aches.

wow, that's awful. I've seen too many bad personal trainers to count. The one I eventually had my wife go with I only did so after talking to this guy for over a year straight. as for the joints comment... it's sad really... one of the biggest problems with overweight people (aside from actual weight) is that their joints are in HORRIBLE shape. usually abused to the point of hurting just from everyday movements. Any good trainer worth their weight in education has these people doing ONLY bodyweight for a long long time to strengthen up their joints. Considering these people already have tons of lean body mass to begin with to support their frame, adding 5 lbs on might not seem like a big deal, but to their joints it is often almost literally the straw that breaks the camel's back. IMHO (and many other trainers' opinion) these folks should be doing bodyweight until they are around 30lb overweight tops. even after that weights are purely optional (as fat loss should still be a priority).

so so so many bad personal trainers out there in ALL disciplines of exercise.. and the absolutely disgusting fact is how much money per hour most of these awful trainers make. almost makes me consider going into the profession myself.

 

[abuC]

I'm at the gym right now, I don't have it at all today. Im going to have to do chest again on Friday, does anyone else have really long arms for their height? I'm 6"1 and my wingspan is right around 6"7, it makes benching a bitch, same with pullups.

 

[Etrian Oddity]

I LOVE SWIMMING SO MUCH

 

[TheRagnCajun]

Hah, yeah, reading back it does look like a lot but I don't usually do every single one on each workout day. Usually I keep my squats going as well as bench and the seated row as my main ones I do each lifting day, but the others are slotted in depending on how I'm feeling. I don't think I've done a single day where I've done all of the listed, but I think I'll probably break it down to different exercises on different days.

Apart from that, does the schedule sound about right? I'm feeling a lot better on a day to day basis since I've started which definitely is a positive!

Cheers guys, and keep up the hard work. Eat clean, lift dirty hah.

It doesn't sound too bad. Its hard to give advice without an actual WO schedule put together. You should consider making a strict WO schedule. Sounds like you need a shoulder exercise like Overhead Press though.

 

[Domino Theory]

So is it good to have one or two days a month where you do the same weight lifting exercises, but you do half the weight while either doubling the reps or doing as many reps per set as you can?

Part of my reasoning for asking is because I slept like complete shit last night and I know from experience that the days I sleep like shit then do heavy lifting have me feeling horrible, messy, groggy and not performing well on the weights at all. Instead of simply not going to the gym today, I want to go, but do half the weight with more reps.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I need a good recommendation for a gum to chew while working out. I have tried two kinds of Quench gum and they dont work as good as I had hoped keeping the juices flowing.

Drink water, people chewing gum in gym annoy the shit out of me.



Also, went running in my Vibrams today. Definitely a new experience, but it was pretty damn cool.

So is it good to have one or two days a month where you do the same weight lifting exercises, but you do half the weight while either doubling the reps or doing as many reps per set as you can?

Part of my reasoning for asking is because I slept like complete shit last night and I know from experience that the days I sleep like shit then do heavy lifting have me feeling horrible, messy, groggy and not performing well on the weights at all. Instead of simply not going to the gym today, I want to go, but do half the weight with more reps.

I've only done a low weight high rep day once in the near year I've been consistently training.

I don't keep things consistent though. I always change up how I work. I may end with a 1 rep high weight rep or I may end with a lower weight higher rep burnout. I never do the same thing day after day.

So I'm probably not helping you, lol.

 

[X-Frame]

Good video posted today by Kelly Starrett about how head position GREATLY affects strength production in all lifts and movements.

So for those of you who squat, deadlift, row, etc -- you really should watch.

Tongue Lock and Head Positioning (YouTube)

 

[Veezy]

Good video posted today by Kelly Starrett about how head position GREATLY affects strength production in all lifts and movements.

So for those of you who squat, deadlift, row, etc -- you really should watch.

Tongue Lock and Head Positioning (YouTube)

Kelly is the fucking man.

He had a video recently, think is was last week, showing how to stretch your chest in order to stop your shoulder from coming forward in the socket when your arms are down. Shit hurt like hell to do, but I noticed a different in my pulls the night after I did the work.

Seriously, folks. Mobility work is absolutely critical if you want to avoid an injury down the road and if you want to get the most out of your training. Casually stretching every once in a while isn’t enough if you’re a serious athlete. Put in the time, and you won't need shoulder or knee surgery down the road.

 

[X-Frame]

Kelly is the fucking man.

He had a video recently, think is was last week, showing how to stretch your chest in order to stop your shoulder from coming forward in the socket when your arms are down. Shit hurt like hell to do, but I noticed a different in my pulls the night after I did the work.

Seriously, folks. Mobility work is absolutely critical if you want to avoid an injury down the road and if you want to get the most out of your training. Casually stretching every once in a while isn’t enough if you’re a serious athlete. Put in the time, and you won't need shoulder or knee surgery down the road.

I saw that too, but I couldn't think of anything around my house that I could use to substitute his ball-on-a-stick gadget for his upper trap, or I don't have a jump band like he used in the video too.

You have all the stuff he used to demonstrate it?

 

[parrotbeak]

So is it good to have one or two days a month where you do the same weight lifting exercises, but you do half the weight while either doubling the reps or doing as many reps per set as you can?

Do you have rest weeks, or is it just when you haven't slept well?

My back off week has been usually 50% weight on squats but at same reps and sets, RDL at lighter weight, tabata push ups, db bench and press at 3x8 and whatever else I feel like doing. I don't really plan it cuz for me part of the back off week is also taking a break from the rigidity of a program.

I've found that doing lower weights at the same or at least predetermined rep/set is good for me because I tend to over do things. I've had "back off" weeks where I mainly did body weight tabatas and ended up needing an additional rest week after that. I imagine doing lower weight at as many reps as I can do might end up the same way.

My friends do more olympic lifting and their back off week is 60-75% weight and half the reps, but same sets, and then they do assistance and cardio. I'm not sure what the reasoning is but they've been doing it that way for a while.

I think as long as you do have a rest week where you take it easy but still stay active, it's good.

 

[Veezy]

I saw that too, but I couldn't think of anything around my house that I could use to substitute his ball-on-a-stick gadget for his upper trap, or I don't have a jump band like he used in the video too.

You have all the stuff he used to demonstrate it?

I improvise with what I can. Some of the stuff I don't have, but I can still get lots of work done with what I do.

I have bands and kettlebells at my gym. I went out and bought some super tough dog toy/racket balls and have a smaller pvc pipe that I wrap in a towel and jam between my joints if I need to flex something open.

The cheep things that anybody can buy are:
Tennis ball/racket ball/dog toy ball - Something to roll on to get deep into the soft tissue
Wide and small PVC pipe - Hurts a lot more than foam, but works much better and is more accessible.

Even cheaper:
1. Get a broom stick.
2. Get a floaty pool tube thingie with the hole in the middle.
3. Stick broom in hole.
4. Roll that shit over something tight.
5. Cry like a bitch

If you can't get a hold of a band, just do the stretch without it. Not as effective, but considering most of us probably are even doing that, it's better than nothing. If you look around on Amazon you can find a few of them.

 

[parrotbeak]

Good video posted today by Kelly Starrett about how head position GREATLY affects strength production in all lifts and movements.

So for those of you who squat, deadlift, row, etc -- you really should watch.

Tongue Lock and Head Positioning (YouTube)

I can't really listen well to this at work, but I'm squatting later this evening. What exactly is he saying to do with your tongue? Is he pressing it up against the roof of his mouth?

 

[X-Frame]

I can't really listen well to this at work, but I'm squatting later this evening. What exactly is he saying to do with your tongue? Is he pressing it up against the roof of his mouth?

Yeah, it supposedly helps keep your jaw shut and stable, which should reduce the chances of hyperextending your neck. Big point in the video is to make sure you maintain a neutral spine form your neck all the way down to your ass when doing things like deadlifts, squats, etc.

For example, people that recommend you look up when squatting -- don't do that. Don't look directly down or directly straight ahead, but in the middle of the two. And obviously when your torso angle changes, your head should change with it.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Drink water, people chewing gum in gym annoy the shit out of me.



Also, went running in my Vibrams today. Definitely a new experience, but it was pretty damn cool.

I chew gum.

And people who wear the vibrams annoy the shit out of me. =p

 

[parrotbeak]

Yeah, it supposedly helps keep your jaw shut and stable, which should reduce the chances of hyperextending your neck. Big point in the video is to make sure you maintain a neutral spine form your neck all the way down to your ass when doing things like deadlifts, squats, etc.

For example, people that recommend you look up when squatting -- don't do that. Don't look directly down or directly straight ahead, but in the middle of the two. And obviously when your torso angle changes, your head should change with it.

Cool. Ya, I'm already doing it the way Rippetoe recommends, so my cue is to look at the floor maybe 5 feet in front of me and check my neck angle. But it takes some concentration to hold it the whole time, especially when hot little 100 lb trainers walk in front of the rack.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Chewing gum isn't functional and makes you look like a douche. Puts you right up there with guys who wear hats in the gym. Shoes on the other hand serve a purpose. Especially those type of specialty shoe.

 

[ipukespiders]

Chewing gum isn't functional and makes you look like a douche. Puts you right up there with guys who wear hats in the gym. Shoes on the other hand serve a purpose. Especially those type of specialty shoe.

You want to see my fucking hair sticking up? Spend time brushing... or hat. Hat is quicker.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

You want to see my fucking hair sticking up? Spend time brushing... or hat. Hat is quicker.

Hair sticking up? Is it tha hard to run a comb through your hair? Also it's the gym, as long as you don't smell like cattle no one is going to care. And if they do they are also of the douchebag pedigree.

 

[Veezy]

Chewing gum isn't functional and makes you look like a douche. Puts you right up there with guys who wear hats in the gym. Shoes on the other hand serve a purpose. Especially those type of specialty shoe.

I cock my fitted 45 degrees to the right while I chew my Extra. Like a fuckin boss. I see you checkin out the goods. I know you want a sample. I know you hate this fresh breath and my gangta swag.

I grunt loud as hell, too. So people know who the fuckin man is. So what if it's only a 135lb deadlift, haters need to know who's in the god damn building. Veezy F Baby is, that's who.

Sometimes, I just do curls for an hour and a half. Bitches love curls. Then I walk up to dem ladies. Hit 'em with the flex. They know what's about to go down.

 

[ezrarh]

I cock my fitted 45 degrees to the right while I chew my Extra. Like a fuckin boss. I see you checkin out the goods. I know you want a sample. I know you hate this fresh breath and my gangta swag.

I grunt loud as hell, too. So people know who the fuckin man is.

Sometimes, I just do curls for an hour and a half. Bitches love curls.

If you do curls for an hour and a half, make sure you do it in the squat rack. Just in case you drop it doing beastly weights. Don't want anyone to get hurt.

 

[Cooter]

Chewing gum isn't functional and makes you look like a douche. Puts you right up there with guys who wear hats in the gym. Shoes on the other hand serve a purpose. Especially those type of specialty shoe.

How so Alien? I'm failing to see why chewing gum would bother anyone. On a side note, if that annoys you then you might want to practicing letting things go.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I cock my fitted 45 degrees to the right while I chew my Extra. Like a fuckin boss. I see you checkin out the goods. I know you want a sample. I know you hate this fresh breath and my gangta swag.

I grunt loud as hell, too. So people know who the fuckin man is.

Sometimes, I just do curls for an hour and a half. Bitches love curls.

Lol, yeah next time your in please flex in the mirror and check out your abs more than you lift too again!!!

Nice veezy lol

To cooter
My response would be how doesn't it? Perhaps my issue is the ones that it's overly apparent they are chewing gum.

 

[Cooter]

To cooter
My response would be how doesn't it? Perhaps my issue is the ones that it's overly apparent they are chewing gum.

Did it annoy you when MJ chewed gum while he played? I just don't see why you care what others do if they aren't popping loud ass bubbles or smacking.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Did it annoy you when MJ chewed gum while he played? I just don't see why you care what others do if they aren't popping loud ass bubbles or smacking.

I dont like basketball. Also it's an appearance thing like I said it makes you look like a dbag just as much as wearing a hat and sun glasses. Or talking on your phone while on equipment or singing your god awful music between sets. Or wearing club clothes to the gym. Or loud a shit grunting/yelling ONE MORE BRO!!!!

Don't know how much more I can explain it. It just gives that dbag look like I said, especially when it's apparent. Oh and as for blowing bubbles don't even get me started in women that do that shit in the gym.

Sorry for any typos on my phone

 

[DogWelder]

Hair sticking up? Is it tha hard to run a comb through your hair? Also it's the gym, as long as you don't smell like cattle no one is going to care. And if they do they are also of the douchebag pedigree.

If no-one is going to care, why do you seem bothered by people who wear hats or chew gum? Hats also help keep sweat off people's brow.

 

[Cooter]

I dont like basketball. Also it's an appearance thing like I said it makes you look like a dbag just as much as wearing a hat and sun glasses. Or talking on your phone while on equipment or singing your god awful music between sets. Or wearing club clothes to the gym. Or loud a shit grunting/yelling ONE MORE BRO!!!!

Don't know how much more I can explain it. It just gives that dbag look like I said, especially when it's apparent. Oh and as for blowing bubbles don't even get me started in women that do that shit in the gym.

Sorry for any typos on my phone

I can see the glasses, phone, singing, and grunting but I'm just not following you on the gum or the hat. Does seeing people chewing gum bother you everywhere or just at the gym? Let some of that hate out brother. You will be a healthier person.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

If no-one is going to care, why do you seem bothered by people who wear hats or chew gum? Hats also help keep sweat off people's brow.

One is actively looking like a dbag. Often they are doing more than one dbag quality activity. The other is simply someone with messy hair working out. Sweat off your brow? I'm One of the sweatiest guys ever and somehow simply wiping my forehead with my hand works.

 

[Veezy]

Cooter,

It's not the gum, per se. People can chew gum. The problem is, the guy that normally chews gum is wearing:

Ed Hardy sweat pants
Ed Hardy shirt
Makes this "OHWAH" sound with every rep, every time
Chews gum with his mouth open
Stands in peoples way
Has a friend with him, that looks the same, on the other side of the gym that he yells at
Says "brah" a lot
Has on a fitted cocked to the left or right 45 degrees
Is orange tan
Pulls up his shirt to look at himself in the mirror, constantly
Has his girfriend spot him on bench with weight he cannot lift
Curls in the squat rack

So when Alien hears "gum" that dude is, I imagine, what he thinks of and he goes into Hulk X-Factor 3 rage mode.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I can see the glasses, phone, singing, and grunting but I'm just not following you on the gum or the hat. Does seeing people chewing gum bother you everywhere or just at the gym? Let some of that hate out brother. You will be a healthier person.

Just in places like the gym. Also like I just said other things usually accompany the chewing making it more apparent and worse. For me to even notice you chewing gum in the gym there must have been some idiotic shit to draw my attention to you. Uess of course you were a hot chick or some dude asking how many sets I have left.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Cooter,

It's not the gum, per se. People can chew gum. The problem is, the guy that normally chews gum is wearing:

Ed Hardy sweat pants
Ed Hardy shirt
Makes this "OHWAH" sound with every rep, every time
Chews gum with his mouth open
Stands in peoples way
Has a friend with him, that looks the same, on the other side of the gym that he yells at
Says "brah" a lot
Has on a fitted cocked to the left or right 45 degrees
Is orange tan
Pulls up his shirt to look at himself in the mirror, constantly
Has his girfriend spot him on bench with weight he cannot lift
Curls in the squat rack

So when Alien hears "gum" that dude is, I imagine, what he thinks of and he goes into Hulk X-Factor 3 rage mode.

Exactly

 

[Cooter]

Cooter,

It's not the gum, per se. People can chew gum. The problem is, the guy that normally chews gum is wearing:

Ed Hardy sweat pants
Ed Hardy shirt
Makes this "OHWAH" sound with every rep, every time
Chews gum with his mouth open
Stands in peoples way
Has a friend with him, that looks the same, on the other side of the gym that he yells at
Says "brah" a lot
Has on a fitted cocked to the left or right 45 degrees
Is orange tan
Pulls up his shirt to look at himself in the mirror, constantly
Has his girfriend spot him on bench with weight he cannot lift
Curls in the squat rack



So when Alien hears "gum" that dude is, I imagine, what he thinks of and he goes into Hulk X-Factor 3 rage mode.

I guess. I chew gum and do none of those things. Probably why I was confused. It helps me focus I've found. As I get older there's not much someone can do that annoys me. My advice is ignore the little things and chewing gum and wearing hats definitely qualifies as such.

 

[DogWelder]

One is actively looking like a dbag. Often they are doing more than one dbag quality activity. The other is simply someone with messy hair working out. Sweat off your brow? I'm One of the sweatiest guys ever and somehow simply wiping my forehead with my hand works.

I prefer to use a hat as it helps keep both my hair and sweat off my face.

 

[Cooter]

I prefer to use a hat as it helps keep both my hair and sweat off my face.

Dbag

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I prefer to use a hat as it helps keep both my hair and sweat off my face.

I find a nice military cut with a 2 on the sides and a half inch on top with the sides faded into the top remedies that

 

[kehs]

I haven't worked out in months, I was looking for a reason to and now I've found one.

Alienshogun, I'm gonna lift weights.

*Puts on hat



While wearing jeans.*

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I haven't worked out in months, I was looking for a reason to and now I've found one.

Alienshogun, I'm gonna lift weights.

*Puts on hat



While wearing jeans.*

Don't forget your iPod docking station with speakers, sunglasses and extra clean 200 dollar untied shoes!

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

Really, calling people douchebags? You reported people to epic who were finding ways to play in the GoW3 beta and wanted them banned. I think it was you anyways.

 

[Veezy]

I haven't worked out in months, I was looking for a reason to and now I've found one.

Alienshogun, I'm gonna lift weights.

*Puts on hat



While wearing jeans.*

The douche is strong, but not strong enough. To complete the look you need:

Two polo shirts, of different colors, with the collars popped
Some Drakkar Noir cologne, covering your whole body
A single gold chain
One small hoop earring
Lip balm

Then, walk immediately to the squat rack, pull up your shirt, and flex that shit till you get a hernia and a stroke at the same time.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

The douche is strong, but not strong enough. To complete the look you need:

Two polo shirts, of different colors, with the collars popped
Some Drakkar Noir cologne, covering your whole body
A single gold chain
One small hoop earring
Lip balm

Then, walk immediately to the squat rack, pull up your shirt, and flex that shit till you get a hernia and a stroke at the same time.

Lol I think you topped mine

@cuevas work on your comprehension I haven't called anyone here a douche

 

[kehs]

Hey alienshogun, I'm posting in between sets, just for you.