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reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Yeah, uhm, the character is based around using physically enhancing drugs to make himself immune to pain and become stronger. Yet people are having a debate whether a person in real life could achieve such a physical presence in two months without using illegal enhancing drugs?

lol
 
The Lamp said:
I don't mind having some fat...I needed some. could see and feel every vertebrae in my back. The only person I'd ever seen thinner than me as an adult would probably be Christopher Nolan in The Machinist (who was just unbelievably thin). I was never able to gain weight until I was on GOMAD, and since I've been eating between 4,000-5,000 calories a day and working out 3x a week, I'm fine with that. I plan to stop in mid-August after I hit a target weight, anyway, and then just focus on shaping what I've got.

But I'm definitely gaining muscle. I had absolutely no pecs before I started, and there was no definition in my arms when ever I flexed them (no bicep "bump" or anything). Now I've got all that, and my legs have gotten much bigger (I'm finally filling into "small" size boxers), which isn't to say much compared to normal legs, but it's a huge improvement for me.
If you are or want to gain ten pounds a week its going to be almost all fat, not just some.
 

The Lamp

Member
cuevas said:
If you are or want to gain ten pounds a week its going to be almost all fat, not just some.

More like 5 lbs. by end of next week since I was at 25 lbs. gained now in the last 31 days.
Im gaining muscle but even if it was all fat, that would be perfectly fine. I still look pretty thin.
 
I hate it when punk kids try to show off an exercise that you just got done doing. I was at my school's gym Tuesday doing back and biceps. I started my back by doing pullups. So this young twerp, who isn't even working his back, walks over to another pullup bar and does one set of pullups as many times as he could. He's looking I didn't beat his ass.

/roidrage
 

The Lamp

Member
This hipster-looking girl was reading Twilight on the only bench in the gym yesterday...and she wouldn't leave. I had to ask her twice so I could do my bench presses lol.
 
Jason's Ultimatum said:
I hate it when punk kids try to show off an exercise that you just got done doing. I was at my school's gym Tuesday doing back and biceps. I started my back by doing pullups. So this young twerp, who isn't even working his back, walks over to another pullup bar and does one set of pullups as many times as he could. He's looking I didn't beat his ass.

/roidrage


The only way to start a back workout afaik :p
 
gym time? gym time.

It is amazing how great you can feel after a session. Eating my chicken and brown rice. It is also Friday. Beautiful weather.

woo woo woo you know it.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
My feet, my mother fucking feet.

VIBRAMS, I HATE YOU!!!!

but secretly love you

Enco said:
Some of you guys need to go to the Dark Knight movie thread and tell others how you can't go from average build to this:

bane.jpg


In a couple of months without roids. Or am I crazy?


That's the problem with WWE/WWF and a lot of mainstream sports.

People think looking like that is possible without roids. The public is becoming completely fooled.

Just like how women can all look like those magazine cover models.

The Lamp said:
GOMAD diet is working for me. I don't look fat at all, I'm actually starting to look normally filled out, considering before I was a twig at 150 lbs., 6'3" (I had to wear a tight belt just to fit into 32x34 pants). I've also been working out 3x a week.


Pics?

A lot of us will find it completely impossible for you to gain that much weight in that short of a time and it not be mostly fat.
 

kehs

Banned
Alienshogun said:
That's the problem with WWE/WWF and a lot of mainstream sports.

People think looking like that is possible without roids. The public is becoming completely fooled.

Just like how women can all look like those magazine cover models.

I get halfway there after two weeks and a couple of heavy sets. That's why I don't work out too much, it just sneaks up on you.
 

mr. puppy

Banned
There's a crossfit gym down the street from me and while I used to do starting strength, its been awhile since I've been in top shape.

What can I expect from the crossfit workout routine? Is it going to be making me stronger, or is it gonig to be a nice all around routine?
 
Copernicus said:
I get halfway there after two weeks and a couple of heavy sets. That's why I don't work out too much, it just sneaks up on you.
I benched last night and now I can't button my shirt up all the way. Luckily the ladies love my chest hair.
 

Sarye

Member
The Lamp said:
More like 5 lbs. by end of next week since I was at 25 lbs. gained now in the last 31 days.
Im gaining muscle but even if it was all fat, that would be perfectly fine. I still look pretty thin.

The Lamp, I didn't want to say anything earlier but you are gaining too much weight too fast. Sure you may be rail thin so you're filling out but just be careful man. You're close to 1lb a day which is just wayyy too much.
 

Veezy

que?
mr. puppy said:
There's a crossfit gym down the street from me and while I used to do starting strength, its been awhile since I've been in top shape.

What can I expect from the crossfit workout routine? Is it going to be making me stronger, or is it going to be a nice all around routine?
You can expect a little of this, if the owner/trainer is a fucking moron. Scroll to the bottom for the injury info.

If the trainers/owners are not fucking morons, which, sadly, they normally are, you will be involved in a heavy conditioning program with light strength training.

If you're paying them the 100-300 dollars per month most Crossfit gyms charge, they will want to give you the most "bang for your buck," so to speak. With that in mind, they want you exhausted as possible so you feel like you worked out really hard. That doesn't leave a lot of days for pure strength training. Especially, considering, that most Crossfit gyms are set up as group classes.

They are supposed to have a website, per the affiliation agreement. I'd check it out and see how their programing is and then, if it's okay, check into their trainers/owners fitness background.

EDIT: Yeah, Tom Hardy is on hella roids. If I had to guess, I'd say Anadrol for bulking and Dianabol to try and keep the fat down. Then, a switch to Winstrol to cut and keep mass. With a good nutritionist and two a days, five days a week.
 

The Lamp

Member
I don't have any pics of me right now, but even with my 25 lbs. gained I still look thin. Have you even looked up the GOMAD diet? This kind of weight gain is normal and what I was expecting. I don't even have many pictures of me from before that showed off my body because I was so ashamed of how thin I looked, but this is a pic of me from a few months ago: http://i.imgur.com/l2Xxg.jpg I removed my face, but you can at least tell how thin my arms and my legs were (though my thighs had stuff in the pockets so they looked bigger than the are). Those are 32x34 jeans.
 
The Lamp said:
More like 5 lbs. by end of next week since I was at 25 lbs. gained now in the last 31 days.
Im gaining muscle but even if it was all fat, that would be perfectly fine. I still look pretty thin.
How old are you? Just cuz you were skinny when you're young doesn't mean it's good to be gaining a lot of fat. You have your whole life to gain fat (and you will). A lot of people gain a little fat slowly over the years and don't realize how fat they are getting because it's gradual. Gets really hard to lose later when you're older.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
The Lamp said:
I don't have any pics of me right now, but even with my 25 lbs. gained I still look thin. Have you even looked up the GOMAD diet? This kind of weight gain is normal and what I was expecting. I don't even have many pictures of me from before that showed off my body because I was so ashamed of how thin I looked, but this is a pic of me from a few months ago: http://i.imgur.com/l2Xxg.jpg I removed my face, but you can at least tell how thin my arms and my legs were (though my thighs had stuff in the pockets so they looked bigger than the are). Those are 32x34 jeans.


It's fine and all if you were thin, but you may be "seeing" results where there may not be any. You're gaining weight too fast, and there's no way your body is making muscle that quickly.
 

The Lamp

Member
I'm 20. This is a picture of what I look like today, 25 lbs. gained.
http://i.imgur.com/foBF4.jpg
Gone from 150 lbs. to 175 lbs. I realize I have my whole life to gain weight, but really, my entire family is slim and fit, even my mother in her 50s is a twig, and I don't eat unhealthily (this milk diet is the closest thing to "unhealthy" I've ever done in my life) so I don't expect to miraculously turn fat in my 30s, but who knows.

I realize I'm probably gaining more fat than muscle, but I'm gaining weight and working out and I'm going to stop the diet next month, as planned, so it's of no surprise nor consequence to me.

EDIT: I don't know why that pic is sideways...it was right-side up in the upload and on my computer lol.
 

kehs

Banned
The Lamp said:
I'm 20. This is a picture of what I look like today, 25 lbs. gained.
http://i.imgur.com/foBF4.jpg
Gone from 150 lbs. to 175 lbs. I realize I have my whole life to gain weight, but really, my entire family is slim and fit, even my mother in her 50s is a twig, and I don't eat unhealthily (this milk diet is the closest thing to "unhealthy" I've ever done in my life) so I don't expect to miraculously turn fat in my 30s, but who knows.

I realize I'm probably gaining more fat than muscle, but I'm gaining weight and working out and I'm going to stop the diet next month, as planned, so it's of no surprise nor consequence to me.

Keep track of your workout regimen(weight, rep, set combos), That's how you'll know if you're gaining muscle or fat (short of bodyfat tests).

It's easy to fall into a "I'm getting bulk" mentality. I creeped into 30% bodyfat from 19% without a change of weight on the scale. Bad news bear.

(good job btw, you looked like a cardboard cutout)
 

The Lamp

Member
cuevas said:

Okay seriously. First you call me the frog kid, you completely ignore what I'm saying, talk to me like I don't know that the GOMAD diet adds fat, and now I assume you're calling me moobs. Why don't you just ignore my posts then? I've been posting in here for the past month with my progress and you don't seem very encouraging or useful to me whatsoever.


Copernicus said:
Keep track of your workout regimen(weight, rep, set combos), That's how you'll know if you're gaining muscle or fat (short of bodyfat tests).

It's easy to fall into a "I'm getting bulk" mentality. I creeped into 30% bodyfat from 19% without a change of weight on the scale. Bad news bear.

(good job btw, you looked like a cardboard cutout)


Thanks. Yeah I have a work-out log that I keep track of. I've over doubled my squatting weight, I've increased my bicep/tricep weight by 10/15 lbs., my bench press weight by 10 lbs., and every other muscle group has increased in strength as well.

This does remind me though. What's a good cardio routine to start doing if you want to trim down extra weight? I assume I might try that in a couple of months. Insanity is what all my friends are doing, but I have like no endurance so I don't know if that's a good start.
 
mr. puppy said:
There's a crossfit gym down the street from me and while I used to do starting strength, its been awhile since I've been in top shape.

What can I expect from the crossfit workout routine? Is it going to be making me stronger, or is it gonig to be a nice all around routine?

You can expect it to be nothing like starting strength. The main focus is not to increase your 1RMs, its to make you dog-tired at the end of every WO day.
 

Sarye

Member
The Lamp said:

Do you know who the frog kid is? He's a kid that notoriously "bulked" up but almost all of it was fat. He ended up looking really bad. I am worried you are heading into that direction however you did mention that you plan on doing the diet for 8 weeks and stopping so I think you'll be okay.

I think a lot of us don't understand the plight of a ridiculously skinny person. To us, gaining weight is ridiculously easy... it's the losing that's hard. If you're happy that you're finally gaining weight, then awesome!
 

The Lamp

Member
Sarye said:
Do you know who the frog kid is? He's a kid that notoriously "bulked" up but almost all of it was fat. He ended up looking really bad. I am worried you are heading into that direction however you did mention that you plan on doing the diet for 8 weeks and stopping so I think you'll be okay.

I think a lot of us don't understand the plight of a ridiculously skinny person. To us, gaining weight is ridiculously easy... it's the losing that's hard. If you're happy that you're finally gaining weight, then awesome!

Well thanks.

I've seen the frog kid but I laughed when you brought that up because I don't look anything like him lol. And besides, I'm not just drinking milk and sitting around, I'm lifting 3x a week :l

I'm eating around 4,000+ calories a day, but I wouldn't do it if I wasn't working out as well.
 

Petrie

Banned
Are there any good apps for keeping track of exercises, reps, amounts of weight and such on Android? I want to start to keep track so I can have a better record of progress, but I'd rather not carry a notebook or something around when I have a PC in my pocket!
 

Veezy

que?
Petrie said:
Are there any good apps for keeping track of exercises, reps, amounts of weight and such on Android? I want to start to keep track so I can have a better record of progress, but I'd rather not carry a notebook or something around when I have a PC in my pocket!
Jefit free/pro.

Amazing shit, get it now.
 
The Lamp said:
Well thanks.

I've seen the frog kid but I laughed when you brought that up because I don't look anything like him lol. And besides, I'm not just drinking milk and sitting around, I'm lifting 3x a week :l

I'm eating around 4,000+ calories a day, but I wouldn't do it if I wasn't working out as well.
That was like over 18 months iirc so see ya then :p
 

qcf x2

Member
The Lamp said:
What's a good cardio routine to start doing if you want to trim down extra weight? I assume I might try that in a couple of months. Insanity is what all my friends are doing, but I have like no endurance so I don't know if that's a good start.

You can build cardio/endurance doing almost anything active, including but not limited to:

basketball
jogging
running
treadmill
elliptical
swimming

Do you feel like you're already at the point where you want to slim down? Are you at or near your target weight? If not then you don't want to be burning too many calories (as I have).
 

The Lamp

Member
It took him 18 months to look like that? Wow.

Well like I said I don't plan to make this permanent...drinking a gallon of milk a day for more than a couple of months must not be a good adjustment for your body to make.

EDIT: No I don't want to slim down yet. I still have some weight gain to go. I'm just thinking ahead.

I just wasn't sure if there was a trick or length of period or type of cardio I gotta do to get into anaerobic exercise and start slimming down, or something.
 

Veezy

que?
Petrie said:
pro version worth the $5?
I think it is. I like the graphing of my progress that it adds. Watching your numbers go up is one thing, seeing a visual representation of it really puts it in perspective that "yeah, I'm making really good progress."

Also, the one rep max feature is cool. Not sure what calculation is uses, but the program will tell you "to beat this number, you need x number of reps for y weight."

If anything, no adds is where it's at.

The Lamp:
If you go to their website, you can get a pdf of the manual. There's a ton of features in the application. Also, don't forget to download the animations of all the movements. There's several hundred exercises you can choose to make your programming, so if you see something listed you want to try, having a description and picture you can pull up real quick is nice.
 

Gvaz

Banned
So no one here is on Fitocracy?

Well here's a plug for it:

logo_light.png

What?
Fitocracy is a free exercise logger which turns your workouts from lists of things you have done to experience points, like this:
crunch1.jpg

crunch2.jpg

The goal is to get you addicted to fitness.

You can get achievements, complete quests, and talk to other people working out, because, well, why not. You can join groups, give people props, and encourage fellow sweaty men and women.

Why?

It was founded by two guys - Richard Talens and Brian Wang - both of which went from some degree of fatness to scary, unreal fitness. Here's Dick, former Everquest player on Sallon Zek's horrible transformation
tumblr_le4k08EmLQ1qfkniso1_r1_400.jpg

Both are very active with the community and will gladly talk to people about their goals, the site, etc.

When is it live?
The site is currently in closed beta. Launches in a few months. But you could get on n-n-n-now!

I have about 10 invites myself, so come join!
 

Petrie

Banned
I'll explore this Jefit app, but thus far it seems a bit more complex for my needs, I can't seem to find where I can simply enter the exercises from each day and track progress. Perhaps with a bit more time I'll find what I'm after.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
The Lamp said:
I'm 20. This is a picture of what I look like today, 25 lbs. gained.
http://i.imgur.com/foBF4.jpg
Gone from 150 lbs. to 175 lbs. I realize I have my whole life to gain weight, but really, my entire family is slim and fit, even my mother in her 50s is a twig, and I don't eat unhealthily (this milk diet is the closest thing to "unhealthy" I've ever done in my life) so I don't expect to miraculously turn fat in my 30s, but who knows.

I realize I'm probably gaining more fat than muscle, but I'm gaining weight and working out and I'm going to stop the diet next month, as planned, so it's of no surprise nor consequence to me.

EDIT: I don't know why that pic is sideways...it was right-side up in the upload and on my computer lol.


I'm sorry to tell you, but I am seeing more fat gain than muscle there. And you seem to actually have fat on your chest, not pecs.

I'm not trying to be an asshole at all. I'm trying to help. Don't fall into the "I'm bulking, and I was skinny, so any gain in weight is muscle" mentality.
 

abuC

Member
The Lamp said:
I don't mind having some fat...I needed some. could see and feel every vertebrae in my back. The only person I'd ever seen thinner than me as an adult would probably be Christopher Nolan in The Machinist (who was just unbelievably thin). I was never able to gain weight until I was on GOMAD, and since I've been eating between 4,000-5,000 calories a day and working out 3x a week, I'm fine with that. I plan to stop in mid-August after I hit a target weight, anyway, and then just focus on shaping what I've got.

But I'm definitely gaining muscle. I had absolutely no pecs before I started, and there was no definition in my arms when ever I flexed them (no bicep "bump" or anything). Now I've got all that, and my legs have gotten much bigger (I'm finally filling into "small" size boxers), which isn't to say much compared to normal legs, but it's a huge improvement for me.
You might want to cut down calories or increase the amount of days you workout, that many calories with a low workload is going to lead to way more fat than muscle.
 

Petrie

Banned
Monday
Squat - 3 sets of 5
Bench Press - 3 sets of 5
Deadlifts - 1 set of 5
Pull-Ups - 3 sets of 8-15

Wednesday
Squat - 3 sets of 5
Overhead Press - 3 sets of 5
Power Cleans - 5 sets of 3
Abdominal work

Friday
Squat - 3 sets of 5
Bench Press - 3 sets of 5
Deadlift - 1 set of 5
Bent Over Rows - 3 set of 5
Arm work, if desired

I'm going to start doing this routine I think, but is working 3 days enough? I feel like having more off days than on days would lead to not getting as great of results as possible. Am I just being silly?
 

The Lamp

Member
Gvaz said:
So no one here is on Fitocracy?

Well here's a plug for it:

logo_light.png

What?
Fitocracy is a free exercise logger which turns your workouts from lists of things you have done to experience points, like this:
crunch1.jpg

crunch2.jpg

The goal is to get you addicted to fitness.

You can get achievements, complete quests, and talk to other people working out, because, well, why not. You can join groups, give people props, and encourage fellow sweaty men and women.

Why?

It was founded by two guys - Richard Talens and Brian Wang - both of which went from some degree of fatness to scary, unreal fitness. Here's Dick, former Everquest player on Sallon Zek's horrible transformation
tumblr_le4k08EmLQ1qfkniso1_r1_400.jpg

Both are very active with the community and will gladly talk to people about their goals, the site, etc.

When is it live?
The site is currently in closed beta. Launches in a few months. But you could get on n-n-n-now!

I have about 10 invites myself, so come join!

Please send me an invite if you can!

And I know I've gained fat but I've also gotten a lot stronger the past month, more strength gain results than any other time I've tried to work out over a period of months.
 

ezrarh

Member
Petrie said:
I'm going to start doing this routine I think, but is working 3 days enough? I feel like having more off days than on days would lead to not getting as great of results as possible. Am I just being silly?

Yes. 3 days is more than enough. You don't grow muscles while you're working out.
 

Gvaz

Banned
The Lamp said:
Please send me an invite if you can!

And I know I've gained fat but I've also gotten a lot stronger the past month, more strength gain results than any other time I've tried to work out over a period of months.
Invite sent! I think it's a fun way to log your activities and set some goals, everyone should give it a shot.
 

twofold

Member
Petrie said:
I'm going to start doing this routine I think, but is working 3 days enough? I feel like having more off days than on days would lead to not getting as great of results as possible. Am I just being silly?

You're being silly. The resting facilitates strength gain and growth.

Also, after a few weeks when you start lifting heavy, you'll be glad that you have those rest days. Linear progression is really taxing on the body.

The Lamp - What sort of numbers are you pushing? I think you should really consider dropping to half GOMAD at least, else you'll probably find yourself fat fucking yourself in the not too distant future. GOMAD is only meant to be temporary and it appears to have done it's job with you already.

If you do want to stick with GOMAD, though, start walking for 30+ minutes in the morning before you have breakfast. Also try to hop on a treadmill and walk on a slight incline for 20 mins or so after a workout. This sort of cardio is very low impact and won't affect recovery but it'll stop you from putting on a little of that extra fat.

Also, take a look into the Grayskull LP as an alternative to SS. It'll allow you to get stronger but without having to take in a million calories a day. Veezy posted some stuff about it here.
 
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