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Tapiozona

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Alienshogun said:
At least (I'm assuming) he isn't a short pudgy bald asian dude walking around in a MARINES shirt all cut to hell.

Dude's fat as hell thinking he looks awesome.

Are you positive it's oil? Any chance he's just a heavy perspirer?

If it's oil, you may want to say something to him, or the staff. That shit ain't right.

He's a very flamboyont gay guy who is fairly well muscled though nothing close to what he thinks he is.

A lot of us weren't sure at first. He spends a majority of his workout staring at himself in the mirror. We gave him the benefit of the doubt until people started noticing how oily he was right when he came out of the locker room. Then someone saw him take a bottle or some shit into a stall right before he started his workout.

He also does all these annoying "Look at me" exercises. All kinds of weird straps and contraptions to draw more attention to himself.

Thinking about him now makes me want to punch him again.
 

~Kinggi~

Banned
Is it normal for one bicep to be slightly larger than the other? I give equal work to both my arms and its annoying as fuck to notice a slight difference in the size of the muscles if i look at the in the mirror. I tried putting more emphasis on the other arm put im not noticing a change. Its not even my fapping arm lol.
 
~Kinggi~ said:
Is it normal for one bicep to be slightly larger than the other? I give equal work to both my arms and its annoying as fuck to notice a slight difference in the size of the muscles if i look at the in the mirror. I tried putting more emphasis on the other arm put im not noticing a change. Its not even my fapping arm lol.

I have this thing where one bicep is slightly bigger than the other but the smaller one is stronger. :\
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Tapiozona said:
He's a very flamboyont gay guy who is fairly well muscled though nothing close to what he thinks he is.

A lot of us weren't sure at first. He spends a majority of his workout staring at himself in the mirror. We gave him the benefit of the doubt until people started noticing how oily he was right when he came out of the locker room. Then someone saw him take a bottle or some shit into a stall right before he started his workout.

He also does all these annoying "Look at me" exercises. All kinds of weird straps and contraptions to draw more attention to himself.

Thinking about him now makes me want to punch him again.


Yeah, you may wanna get some of the other people together to confront him, or talk to the staff.

cuevas said:
I have this thing where one bicep is slightly bigger than the other but the smaller one is stronger. :\


I've got the same issue, triceps too.

Not sure how that shit works, fucking magic. Miracles up in this bitch.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I don't know what's going on with me, perhaps other people have experienced this.

Over the last month I have started to get pretty bad acne on my chest. Before I would get a pimple/ingrown hair every once in a while, but right now I seem to get a new one every day, and I have at least 8 on my chest right now. Some of them are leaving scars too (my fault obviously for going after them).

I shower every day, sometimes twice, so that's not an issue.

I don't know if it's because my chest is getting bigger, I could be sweating more, more protein in my diet, etc.

Anyone experience this?
 
Alienshogun said:
I don't know what's going on with me, perhaps other people have experienced this.

Over the last month I have started to get pretty bad acne on my chest. Before I would get a pimple/ingrown hair every once in a while, but right now I seem to get a new one every day, and I have at least 8 on my chest right now. Some of them are leaving scars too (my fault obviously for going after them).

I shower every day, sometimes twice, so that's not an issue.

I don't know if it's because my chest is getting bigger, I could be sweating more, more protein in my diet, etc.

Anyone experience this?

How thoroughly do you clean your chest? Over cleaning can be just as bad as under cleaning, so if you're showering twice a day and scrubbing furiously with harsh soap, calming that down may help. Otherwise, not sure what to suggest.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Soka said:
How thoroughly do you clean your chest? Over cleaning can be just as bad as under cleaning, so if you're showering twice a day and scrubbing furiously with harsh soap, calming that down may help. Otherwise, not sure what to suggest.


Same as I always have, I lather it up then rinse, nothing has changed in my 31 years (in December) on this planet besides my heavy emphasis on weight lifting in the last year.
 
Just signed up for Fitocracy, seems pretty cool so far although I'm bummed that the Power 90 routines that make up my regular daily workouts right now aren't included in their activities database. Any workarounds for this?
 
~Kinggi~ said:
Is it normal for one bicep to be slightly larger than the other? I give equal work to both my arms and its annoying as fuck to notice a slight difference in the size of the muscles if i look at the in the mirror. I tried putting more emphasis on the other arm put im not noticing a change. Its not even my fapping arm lol.
It's normal and it can be fixed but instead of just doing more work with one arm you need to take a step back and run a proper diagnostic check on the range of motion that your wrist, elbow and shoulder goes through when doing any bicep activation exercises chances are you will notice a slight imbalance that needs correcting. Also pay serious attention to hand position on dumbbell work, randomly grabbing too high or too low creates a torsion that travels up the mechanical chain and over a long period of time will result in slight asymmetry along said chain.
 

Rur0ni

Member
So I started lifting again after pretty much a 2 year hiatus. Originally back then I started at 160lb @ 6'2 and by 5-6 months I weighed 185lb. So a 25lb increase, awesome build. 2 years of no working out, back down to.. 157lb.

So anyway now life has stabilized and I'm back on the strength wagon. Difference from back then, now the gym has a ton of people there at 6AM when it opens compared to 2 years ago. Maybe it's just the start of the school year (university). Now I'm the skinny ass guy again, and there's women actually squatting now (thank you so much!) with awesome ass and legs. Pleasing yet humbling because I'm not my sexy self. Just lamenting about it I suppose.

Previous weight max (est)
Weight: 185lb
Squats: 320lb
Bench: 225lb
Deadlift: ~400lb

Goals
Weight: ~195lb.
Squats: 350+
Bench: 250+
Power Cleans: 275+
Deadlift: 450+

My goal lifts don't seem so out of reach from where I was previously. I simply did Starting Strength: Squats,Bench, Deadlift / Squats, Press, Power Cleans, Pull Ups (ABA/BAB) and GOMAD. I believe the milk was creating some b-acne from what I've read about diary, so not sure what to do about that. Any suggestions there? Also is the SS routine still pretty much standard or is there something more effective? I had awesome gains from gomad + ss previously, but since I'm practically starting fresh again I'd like to know if there is a more effective workout.
 

pdk27

Member
Looking to back into decent shape. Fitocracy seems like it would be a good motivation tool. Can anybody spare an invite?
 

MjFrancis

Member
Alienshogun said:
Yeah, you may wanna get some of the other people together to confront him, or talk to the staff.
I'd suggest the latter given Tapiozona's admitted desire to punch this guy in the face, lol.

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@ Rur0ni - If milk doesn't fit the bill why not try eggs? It lacks the reputation of ruining skin complexions that milk occasionally suffers from. You won't be consuming two or three dozen eggs a day but a handful to a dozen could certainly bolster your daily caloric intake on the cheap.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Fuck yeah! 295 was too light (squat) today so I bumped up. I'm doing 315 5x5 now.

This week is going awesome 300 for reps ( bench) and now this. Wool!!!!
 

Rur0ni

Member
MjFrancis said:
I'd suggest the latter given Tapiozona's admitted desire to punch this guy in the face, lol.

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@ Rur0ni - If milk doesn't fit the bill why not try eggs? It lacks the reputation of ruining skin complexions that milk occasionally suffers from. You won't be consuming two or three dozen eggs a day but a handful to a dozen could certainly bolster your daily caloric intake on the cheap.
Well I use milk in my ON shake, and milk basically makes stuff taste a lot better. Perhaps I could just consume less milk since I used to only drink milk and some water during that program. Then supplement with eggs as you suggested. I'll give it a shot. Was just easy nutrition compared to making something.

So my other question about SS, still solid or..?
 

abuC

Member
Alienshogun said:
Fuck yeah! 295 was too light (squat) today so I bumped up. I'm doing 315 5x5 now.

This week is going awesome 300 for reps ( bench) and now this. Wool!!!!
Good work, I skipped squats this week, just the thought of 315x5x5 makes my knees ache ha.
 

MjFrancis

Member
Rur0ni said:
So my other question about SS, still solid or..?
I've read anecdotes of quite a few people successfully using Starting Strength to get back into the swing of things after having already gone through the program before. I would recommend it. As a bonus your 'muscle memory' would likely kick in and make things a little easier for you as well.
 

Rur0ni

Member
MjFrancis said:
I've read anecdotes of quite a few people successfully using Starting Strength to get back into the swing of things after having already gone through the program before. I would recommend it. As a bonus your 'muscle memory' would likely kick in and make things a little easier for you as well.
Thanks. :)

Right in line with what I had in mind.
 

dmshaposv

Member
~Kinggi~ said:
Is it normal for one bicep to be slightly larger than the other? I give equal work to both my arms and its annoying as fuck to notice a slight difference in the size of the muscles if i look at the in the mirror. I tried putting more emphasis on the other arm put im not noticing a change. Its not even my fapping arm lol.

Being right-handed, my right bicep feels bigger and also has more endurance while exercising.

It totally is weird since I equally workout both arms.
 

Petrie

Banned
Jason's Ultimatum said:
HOLY SHIT at the mark up. I remember paying $32 for a 5lb tub. FUCK THAT.

EDIT-Or maybe it was $42. Still that's a 19% increase.
Yeah it went up huge, that's why I want to know about that other brand.
 
reilo said:
Price: $29.55

??

That's TwinLab. Jason and Petrie are talking about Optimum Nutrition brand.

Anyway, has anyone used "Subscribe and Save" on Amazon? Can you start it up then cancel it immediately and just get the discount on the first purchase?
 

NomarTyme

Member
Soka said:
That's TwinLab. Jason and Petrie are talking about Optimum Nutrition brand.

Anyway, has anyone used "Subscribe and Save" on Amazon? Can you start it up then cancel it immediately and just get the discount on the first purchase?
Yes.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Jason's Ultimatum said:
HOLY SHIT at the mark up. I remember paying $32 for a 5lb tub. FUCK THAT.

EDIT-Or maybe it was $42. Still that's a 19% increase.


Yeah, I said this a few days ago, it looks like whey went up across the board, big time.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Petrie said:
So is that other brand comparable?

Have never tried it bud, but it's just whey, so it can't be that much different I wouldn't think.

Can't be any worse than the muscletec crap I'm drinking ATM.
 

snoopen

Member
quite a few posts up but my right arm is bigger than my left in size as well. biceps and triceps are maybe 10-20% larger on my right when i flex.

i don't really mind the discrepancy, they can both lift equal weights (although my left wrist tends to give up before my right) and i try to use 50/50 force. they're both solid so i'm not complaining haha.
 

Cheeto

Member
X-Frame said:
This is me. I love this, especially teens who study Flex Magazine. However, those like the middle-aged moms in my office who generally are interested in "losing weight" for 5 years now, my mother, it's harder to say this with a grin.

I DO, however, love telling them I am gaining weight and sometimes it's tough to eat enough food. They just about get ready to slap me!
Ha, I love gauging the reaction from people when I tell them I eat 4-5k calories a day after they say I've lost weight.
 

MjFrancis

Member
yacobod said:
there is no "upper" chest.

He was probably referring to the muscle fibers on the clavical portion of the pectoralis major rather than those connecting to the sternum. Sure, there isn't an "upper" chest, but he can certainly emphasize some muscle fiber recruitment more than others on the pectoralis major. Target? No. Emphasize? Sure.
 

eznark

Banned
Level 3 on Fitocracy for a 2.2 mile run? Hell yeah, this is the easiest grinding ever.

Incline bench for "upper" chest.
 

Bit-Bit

Member
I switched over doing the bench press with dumbbells. But I think I over extended my shoulders cause after the first week, I couldn't do wide push ups without hearing my left shoulder pop. And doing shoulder flys makes my right shoulder pop. I'm gonna stop doing flys for a week and go to pressing dumbbells on the floor. Do you guys think doing them off the floor will still be effective for my chest?
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Bit-Bit said:
I switched over doing the bench press with dumbbells. But I think I over extended my shoulders cause after the first week, I couldn't do wide push ups without hearing my left shoulder pop. And doing shoulder flys makes my right shoulder pop. I'm gonna stop doing flys for a week and go to pressing dumbbells on the floor. Do you guys think doing them off the floor will still be effective for my chest?


This is a bit confusing, but the first thing that came to mind is perhaps you're going too heavy.

I couldn't imagine the ROM you would have had to do to overextend your shoulder while benching.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Bit-Bit said:
I switched over doing the bench press with dumbbells. But I think I over extended my shoulders cause after the first week, I couldn't do wide push ups without hearing my left shoulder pop. And doing shoulder flys makes my right shoulder pop. I'm gonna stop doing flys for a week and go to pressing dumbbells on the floor. Do you guys think doing them off the floor will still be effective for my chest?
Make sure you are using correct form.
 

X-Frame

Member
Bit-Bit said:
I switched over doing the bench press with dumbbells. But I think I over extended my shoulders cause after the first week, I couldn't do wide push ups without hearing my left shoulder pop. And doing shoulder flys makes my right shoulder pop. I'm gonna stop doing flys for a week and go to pressing dumbbells on the floor. Do you guys think doing them off the floor will still be effective for my chest?
My guess is you're flaring your elbows too much when you dumbbell bench which puts much more pressure on your shoulder stabilizers, and flyes only increase the issue.

Make sure your elbows are tucked at 45-degrees, not out to your sides.
 

Cheeto

Member
eznark said:
Level 3 on Fitocracy for a 2.2 mile run? Hell yeah, this is the easiest grinding ever.

Incline bench for "upper" chest.
Fitocracy sucks for me now... my workouts are all strongman-style lifts and they only have gym equipment on fitocracy
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
X-Frame said:
My guess is you're flaring your elbows too much when you dumbbell bench which puts much more pressure on your shoulder stabilizers, and flyes only increase the issue.

Make sure your elbows are tucked at 45-degrees, not out to your sides.
Also make sure to rotate your elbows outwards for proper torsion/stability support.
 
Soka said:
That's TwinLab. Jason and Petrie are talking about Optimum Nutrition brand.

Anyway, has anyone used "Subscribe and Save" on Amazon? Can you start it up then cancel it immediately and just get the discount on the first purchase?

You can, but why would you? Just set it to once every 6 months. You can go back and order another shipment any time too. Nice setup for protein.
 

Cudder

Member
So yesterday I finished off my workout with Bench Press, and this one dude asks me how many sets I have left, I say 1, and he waits. Then I politely ask him to spot me on my last set. Now, the most I've pressed is 90lbs total, but I guess since I was doing it at the end of my workout for arms and chest I was already kinda tired, so I had 70lbs on there.

I do about 2-3 by myself, and then start struggling with the weight as I say "Up, up, up!" trying to get this motherfucker to help, but he didnt do shit. I had to lower the weight on the rack on the lowest set of rungs because this dude chose not to help me lift. Fucking hate that shit.
 

eznark

Banned
Cheeto said:
Fitocracy sucks for me now... my workouts are all strongman-style lifts and they only have gym equipment on fitocracy

Can't you come up with an equivalent?

It seems kind of cool. My wife signed up and has an 18 mile training run on Saturday. That will be her first logged workout. I assume she'll hit level cap.
 
Cudder said:
So yesterday I finished off my workout with Bench Press, and this one dude asks me how many sets I have left, I say 1, and he waits. Then I politely ask him to spot me on my last set. Now, the most I've pressed is 90lbs total, but I guess since I was doing it at the end of my workout for arms and chest I was already kinda tired, so I had 70lbs on there.

I do about 2-3 by myself, and then start struggling with the weight as I say "Up, up, up!" trying to get this motherfucker to help, but he didnt do shit. I had to lower the weight on the rack on the lowest set of rungs because this dude chose not to help me lift. Fucking hate that shit.

Some people are shitty spotters. If you ask someone to spot you, you should do a breif 10 second rundown of what you expect them to do. I know a lot of people who will crank out 4-5 reps with the spotters help, but personally I don't want them touching the bar unless its clear the bar isn't going up.
 

shamanick

Member
TheRagnCajun said:
Some people are shitty spotters. If you ask someone to spot you, you should do a breif 10 second rundown of what you expect them to do. I know a lot of people who will crank out 4-5 reps with the spotters help, but personally I don't want them touching the bar unless its clear the bar isn't going up.


Yeah, I've definitely learned to be really clear to spotters about what I want, but it's because they usually try to help too much. I work at a gym at a university (I work here) and every time I ask for a spot the person (usually a 20 year old kid) gives me a five minute lecture about what I'm doing wrong. Not that I don't appreciate a tip or two, but these guys are so full of themselves, not to mention long-winded, it gets a little hard to take.
 

MjFrancis

Member
I had a spotter become defensive, almost hostile even, when I explained that I didn't want them to touch the bar the second time around until I hit failure (he held on to the bar for 3/5 reps). I even gave him my twenty second spiel about how I like to be spotted, lol.

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Anyways, I haven't linked to much of anything for a while, so I'm overdue:

World's Best Deadlift Assistance Exercise
by Jim Wendler
The good morning is probably my favorite accessory exercise for the squat and deadlift. You can do all the straight leg deadlifts and Romanian deadlifts you want in place of them but that’s like trying to leg press in place of squatting. The biggest drawback with the GM is form – what is acceptable and what makes you look like a candy cane

A great lesson that Dave Tate taught me when doing GM’s is to get the most out of 135 as you can. He learned this from older lifters and passed it down; what this means is that make 135 (or whatever weight you choose) work like a heavier weight. The take home lesson of this is NOT to do one weight all the time or to just use 135lb. It’s to get more out of a little less weight so that you don’t sacrifice form for weight.

Remember that there are no meets featuring the good morning. This won’t be “on the final” so make sure you understand that the reason you are doing the exercise is to get a bigger squat and deadlift.
 
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