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Angry Fork

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parrotbeak said:
I'd think it would depend on a lot of things, like biking uphill, how fast you're running, etc. Do whatever you enjoy best. Do both. Just do something.

Ya don't do sit ups.

http://video.nytimes.com/video/2009/06/17/magazine/1194841000095/core-values.html

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/iron_core_how_to_build_a_punchproof_body
Thanks for these.

In one of those links is a related video about barefoot running. What do you guys think about it? Or those vibram fivefinger shoes. Better or worse than running shoes? What about running in boots?
 
Angry Fork said:
Thanks for these.

In one of those links is a related video about barefoot running. What do you guys think about it? Or those vibram fivefinger shoes. Better or worse than running shoes? What about running in boots?

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i picked these up, the new balance minimus mt10. they've got the vibram sole, but don't have the toes. i love these. they teach you how to truly run on your foot, which helps your body's natural shock absorption. you can run a 5k (although serious runners have anecdotes reporting running 10 miles in these types of shoes) in them, and they don't have too much cushioning so they're good for deadlifting and squatting. i don't think i'll go back to regular running shoes.

i definitely would not run in boots.
 
parrotbeak said:
Some people mistakenly think that you should be in pain during workouts. It's fine to have soreness after a good workout. Pain is never ok during exercise or stretching. That usually means something is wrong. Pain during stretching means your muscles are being stretched beyond where they want to be and they will tighten up more to protect themselves from tearing.

Makes sense. So for people who are looking to improve their flexibility, they should ease into it, right? Make steady progress through regular stretching, without overdoing it? Pain can be subjective. I feel a little discomfort during some stretches, but it's not like a pain level 10 if that's what he means.
 
Unfortunately I think it is kinda hard to understand the difference between pain and soreness and the different levels of pain until you actually have an injury.

Stretching should feel good. You're warming up the muscles first before stretching right? Yes, very slow progress. You should try to stretch throughout the day every day, but always warm up the muscle first.

The only time the pain cave is fine is when doing myofascial release/deep tissue massage. Provided you're just hitting trigger points and aren't causing any damage to tissues, you can go as deep into the pain cave as you want, as far as I know.
 
Has anyone here ever taken part in a warrior dash event? It looks pretty easy but wondered if anyone had first hand experience. I haven't done any serious running since last year (not including a lousy 53 minute 10k in April/May that I didn't train for, hence the time) but figure that 5k with a few obstacles should be more fun than anything else.
 
Angry Fork said:
Thanks for these.

In one of those links is a related video about barefoot running. What do you guys think about it? Or those vibram fivefinger shoes. Better or worse than running shoes? What about running in boots?

I use Vibrams for my running and lifting, although I can definitely see the appeal of the New Balance trainers posted as they look like regular running shoes.
 

X-Frame

Member
Review Time! For the record, I bought and received all 3 of the following products about a month ago.


Original Rehband Knee Sleeves

Where To Buy: Jackal's Gym Store (Link)
Price: $33.95 per sleeve

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Review: I asked on here and other sites, along with checking other forums and reviews, and came to the conclusion that these were the "best" knee sleeves available. Since I have a possible lower back condition I cannot do bilateral leg movements like squats and deadlifts so my only options are single-leg training (which most people don't include enough of by the way).

I needed support if I was going to be doing single-leg training, along with conditioning work, several times a week. I suffered most likely overuse and tendonitis on my right knee back in college when I was ATG squatting and sprinting too often and was out for a couple weeks but my knee function and strength soon returned. For the most part I wanted this to be a PRE-HAB move so that I don't develop anything more serious.

The knee sleeves themselves are amazingly well put together and as soon as you slip them on you realize that they will last a long time. Were they expensive? Yes, but I cannot put a price on health. The little extra money spent on these for quality, tried-and-true knee sleeves that have been on the market for years with glowing reviews was enough for me.

As far as sizing, after measuring as they instruct I bought mine true to size -- not smaller as it suggests if you're using them for competition work. They're already pretty tight but not difficult to go on. HIGHLY recommended.


TriggerPoint - GRID Foam Roller

Where To Buy: Amazon (Link)
Price: $39.95

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Review: Originally I had a high-density foam roller also from Amazon found here but my brother wanted a foam roller to take to college so I let him have it. I needed something more as it wasn't even doing anything for me anymore even with single-leg rolling and applying additional pressure.

I searched around and initially noticed this in Kelly Starrett's YouTube videos where he used this smaller, hollow, and more mobile foam roller with grid marks. Found it on Amazon and bought it. Again, most of you wouldn't "need" this but I really benefit from consistent foam rolling and having something a little smaller, easy to travel with, and even more durable and hard than my last high-density foam roller was a plus. I also don't see how this won't last 50 years.

It certainly applies more pressure to my body and it has the different grid marks on various ends of the roller but I usually just go right down the middle. I'd recommend this for people that travel especially as you can easily fit shirts or something in the hollow center.


New Balance Minimus MX20 "Trainer"

Where To Buy: Amazon (Link)
Price: $75.00 - 79.99 (depending where you buy)

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Review: I was all set to purchase the NB Minimus "Trail" versions (top of this thread posted by Kevo) until Eric Cressey made a blog post about these "Trainer" versions that just came out at the time. You can read his review here. ("The best minimalist shoe")

I bought these from Finish Line myself, as they were not available at all in my local mall in various stores. I ordered the same size as my Nike Free's although most people recommend you order half a size bigger. Either my Free's were too big or my feet just don't become as constructed as others ordering the same size. They were also definitely slim in the mid-foot area but have wider toe area.

First, I am not a runner. I've used these for the past month for walking/hiking, sprinting, and lifting. There really wasn't much reasons why I chose these over the Trail's except, according to Eric, they're more suited for explosive training like plyo's, sprints, and heavy lifting like lunges without ruining the front of the shoe (well protected).

I've done split-squats, lunges, and the shoes protect perfectly while still being low to the ground and INCREDIBLY light. I was coming from the Nike Free 7.0's and these feel half as heavy but much smaller and low to the ground. Putting on my Free's again after taking off these shoes feels like I have weights on my feet.

I would also recommend these as well unless you're a hardcore runner. These still would fit the bill for running, but I do think the "Runner" or "Trail" versions would be better suited for you. I think they're also cheaper than the Trail versions.


Let me know if you have any questions!
 

LogicStep

Member
Yo guys so, it has been 2 months since I started the gym and I have raised the weight in all of my exercises a lot since I started. For example I started with like 25 lbs on the hammer and bicep curl but now I'm at 40 lbs for the last set (I do 30lbs 10 reps, 35lbs 8 reps, 40lbs 6+ reps). All of my workout is done in this fashion, is this the the optimal for gaining muscle or should I do all my sets with the max weight and max reps I can? Also, should I keep raising the weight on everything as soon as I feel I can raise it some (this is what I've been doing since day 1) or should I take a month and just stick to a weight to take it easy? I feel like I'm doing so much weight on my exercises but not seeing as much results as I would like. I eat good btw, around 250g of protein daily (I'm at 203lbs 6'3). I ask about the easy month because I'm starting to feel really tired after 2 days of working out (out of 4 per week).
 

X-Frame

Member
parrotbeak said:
Thanks for the reviews, X-Frame!

So that GRID Foam Roller is hard plastic? Does it compress at all?

The outer "orange" portion does compress slightly but it is definitely tougher than any other foam roller I've used. I don't see it ever breaking down either because of the hollow center that's a much harder material.
 

MrToughPants

Brian Burke punched my mom
_dementia said:
My shoulder is pretty sore. What should I do guys? :(

Soreness or pain?

My left shoulder is bugging me and the pain is giving me trouble sleeping sometimes. I turn on my sides when I sleep and all my weight will shift onto my shoulders. I still did some pressing the last few weeks with 3 PRs for the year 342x2cgbp, 130s incline and 100s for shoulders with full rom.
 

Enco

Member
God damn I hate whey.

I use the flavoured whey from My Protein and I just got a tub of raspberry True Whey. It's disgusting. I tried a sample and thought it was fine. Now I'm bored after 2 freakin' drinks.
 

Enco

Member
Does anyone here not use whey powder? If so, what do you do to ensure that you get enough protein?

What does your daily meal plan look like?
 
Enco said:
God damn I hate whey.

I use the flavoured whey from My Protein and I just got a tub of raspberry True Whey. It's disgusting. I tried a sample and thought it was fine. Now I'm bored after 2 freakin' drinks.
I usually get the unflavoured stuff and then buy different Options flavours to mix with it. Still gets pretty boring after a while.
 

Enco

Member
J Tourettes said:
I usually get the unflavoured stuff and then buy different Options flavours to mix with it. Still gets pretty boring after a while.
I might try that next.

Have a 5lb tub to finish first...

Jason's Ultimatum said:
Er, I think a lot of people use whey protein. If not, they get them from food.
I guessed that :lol

Was just wondering how people structured their meals.
 

Carbonox

Member
It is time. My abdomen is pretty much healed and after over a month out, I can (I think) resume training. I'm going to play it safe and get back to basics. I need to re-plan my nutritional intake as well. Has anyone got a good and solid calorie-focused diet? Protein-wise I Have nothing to worry about as I can handle that easily.
 

X-Frame

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Carbonox_Ratchet said:
It is time. My abdomen is pretty much healed and after over a month out, I can (I think) resume training. I'm going to play it safe and get back to basics. I need to re-plan my nutritional intake as well. Has anyone got a good and solid calorie-focused diet? Protein-wise I Have nothing to worry about as I can handle that easily.

Forgive me if you already mentioned this, but what was the diagnoses with your abdomen?

And as far as your diet, if you can already handle your protein requirements (which is what most people fail at) then the rest is gravy. Add in a lot of veggies at meals, eggs, fruits, etc.
 

Prologue

Member
Hello all. Going to start bulking tomorrow. Been on a cut since june since I wasn't happy about the weight distribution. I'm just looking for feedback



5'6, 138 lbs (164 before).
2,511 cals (I'm guessing this isn't going to be enough but I'm just going to slowly get into it since I've been eating 1500 cals since june)

Fats : 62.8g
Protein 183.4
carbs 337.4


Since I'll most probably need 3000 cals, what should I increase? I'm guessing add more carbs and down the protein a bit?

Also, with how things are, I'll have 8 servings of fruit a day. I'm guessing thats a bit overboard? Opinions?

Thanks for your time
 

Prologue

Member
Enco said:
Does anyone here not use whey powder? If so, what do you do to ensure that you get enough protein?

What does your daily meal plan look like?


I usually had 2 whey shakes on my cut. On my bulk I'm trying to play with 1. Optimum has good shakes. A few weeks ago i got a chocolate flavor sample of myofusion. Tasted great and I dont even eat chocolate. I bought a tub of banana flavor just to see how it is but I'm going to stay with myofusion for now.

3 pieces of chicken ( I buy natures promise, they have a nice bag of chicken and each breast is individually wrapped, its convinent) Sometimes I throw in a turkey burger here and there.

cereal( i have cheerios and milk)

two servings of peanut butter

Some home made french fries

2 whey shakes

Fiber one whole wheat.

apple

1500 cals, 162.4 grams of proteins. Cals when up and down for the most part but that was pretty much a base so I could have a treat here and there without going too overboard. Went from 164 in june to 138.
 

MjFrancis

Member
Loving the new avatar, X-Frame. Classic muscle.

Contemplating a pass on tomorrow's training. I'll feel it out after work I guess. What was supposed to be a day of rest ended up being ten hours of chopping and hauling wood around. Life's fun like that sometimes. My arms and back feel like they have the constitution of Jello pudding.
 

Ripclawe

Banned
I can't remember who in this thread talked about focusing more on Compound exercises than isolations but I have been doing just that over the last 3-4 weeks and I am seeing more of a difference in my muscle definition and gaining strength at a better pace than before.

so thanks for that!

More importantly weight loss seems to be back on track after coming to a stop for a while.

another question I have is there a big difference in the amount of weight you can bench from free weights to the setup where the bar is on the two poles? a rough estimate? I did 5 reps of 315 on the latter while I can do 285 5 reps on free weights.
 

X-Frame

Member
Prologue said:
Hello all. Going to start bulking tomorrow. Been on a cut since june since I wasn't happy about the weight distribution. I'm just looking for feedback

5'6, 138 lbs (164 before).
2,511 cals (I'm guessing this isn't going to be enough but I'm just going to slowly get into it since I've been eating 1500 cals since june)

Fats : 62.8g
Protein 183.4
carbs 337.4

Since I'll most probably need 3000 cals, what should I increase? I'm guessing add more carbs and down the protein a bit?

Also, with how things are, I'll have 8 servings of fruit a day. I'm guessing thats a bit overboard? Opinions?

Thanks for your time

I think your carbs are too high. Unless you're an endurance runner, athlete, you shouldn't need more than ~200g a day. If you didn't like your body composition before which prompted your cut, you most likely are a bit resistant to carbs (assuming you were eating a lot when you were 160).

So maybe drop the carbs, or replace some of the starches with veggies. Also, to make up for the calories you might want to bump fat up a bit (assuming they're good fats).

Higher protein, higher fat, and moderate carbs should be enough to fuel your workouts and still allow you to keep the body fat gain to minimal. Note your bodyweight each week when you wake up and track progress -- though the scale will lie so always check the mirror. Use measurements around your limbs to help too.

MjFrancis said:
Loving the new avatar, X-Frame. Classic muscle.

I know it's pretty sick. Sandow had a great physique in his time although I never noticed how underdeveloped his pecs were.

I'm also very interested in learning more about old-school strongman training - any recommendations? Not sure if any of them like Saxon, Sandow wrote books or if there's interviews. Anything pre-streriod era would interest me a lot.

There were obviously some in Convict Conditioning although not sure how much of it was fake or real but it was awesome reads.
 

MjFrancis

Member
X-Frame said:
I know it's pretty sick. Sandow had a great physique in his time although I never noticed how underdeveloped his pecs were.
Underdeveloped for bodybuilding standards of today, but perfect for the classic Greek statue-physique he was going for. I may be a little more bias since my bench press is relatively weak in comparison with everything else I do, but the classics didn't work the chest as much as they do now. So many people screw it up aesthetically anyways that an underdeveloped chest is far more correctable than the mass of chesticles people fancy today. Especially since so many sport a big, droopy lower chest with comparatively underdeveloped upper chest.
 

Sarye

Member
J Tourettes said:
Has anyone here ever taken part in a warrior dash event? It looks pretty easy but wondered if anyone had first hand experience. I haven't done any serious running since last year (not including a lousy 53 minute 10k in April/May that I didn't train for, hence the time) but figure that 5k with a few obstacles should be more fun than anything else.
I've done it. It's easy obstacle wise. I guess it depends on where you run but I did it in Windham, NY and it's a lot of hills. The first mile was all uphill and killed a lot of the runners. I think they purposely did this to make the obstacles harder because it was really easy for me even when winded.

I didn't train except for the usual lifting that I do. If you are even remotely athletic you can do it no problem. There are a lot of out of shape people doing it for fun so it's not as crazy as they make it out to be.
 

Cudder

Member
zazrx said:
Yo guys so, it has been 2 months since I started the gym and I have raised the weight in all of my exercises a lot since I started. For example I started with like 25 lbs on the hammer and bicep curl but now I'm at 40 lbs for the last set (I do 30lbs 10 reps, 35lbs 8 reps, 40lbs 6+ reps). All of my workout is done in this fashion, is this the the optimal for gaining muscle or should I do all my sets with the max weight and max reps I can? Also, should I keep raising the weight on everything as soon as I feel I can raise it some (this is what I've been doing since day 1) or should I take a month and just stick to a weight to take it easy? I feel like I'm doing so much weight on my exercises but not seeing as much results as I would like. I eat good btw, around 250g of protein daily (I'm at 203lbs 6'3). I ask about the easy month because I'm starting to feel really tired after 2 days of working out (out of 4 per week).
someone answer this man, I'm curious as well lol.

also, this might be extremely noobish, but for Bench Presses, when you record your weight, do you include the weight of the bar? All this time I've been telling people I've been benching 90 lbs max, because I have a 45lb plate on each side, but my friends laughed because i didnt include the 45lb bar in the weight. Kinda makes sense in retrospect, just want to make sure :\
 

LogicStep

Member
Cudder said:
someone answer this man, I'm curious as well lol.

also, this might be extremely noobish, but for Bench Presses, when you record your weight, do you include the weight of the bar? All this time I've been telling people I've been benching 90 lbs max, because I have a 45lb plate on each side, but my friends laughed because i didnt include the 45lb bar in the weight. Kinda makes sense in retrospect, just want to make sure :\
I thought someone had answered me hahaha, thanks for the bump to my questions :)

And yeah, you include the bar.
 

MjFrancis

Member
It's good to include the bar since not everyone's bar is 45lbs. Most Olympic bars are, but not all.

As far as workouts tiring you out, to the point where you want to take a month off, I'd reevaluate the entire program. I assume it's a bodybuilding style split that involves a fuckton of exercises every workout. Maybe even with very little rest between sets. I could see how that could be tiring after a couple months, it's not for everyone and really, I believe bodybuilding programs are much more effective when performed after a good standard of strength is achieved.
 

Enco

Member
a176 said:
eggs and meat?

Prologue said:
I usually had 2 whey shakes on my cut. On my bulk I'm trying to play with 1. Optimum has good shakes. A few weeks ago i got a chocolate flavor sample of myofusion. Tasted great and I dont even eat chocolate. I bought a tub of banana flavor just to see how it is but I'm going to stay with myofusion for now.

3 pieces of chicken ( I buy natures promise, they have a nice bag of chicken and each breast is individually wrapped, its convinent) Sometimes I throw in a turkey burger here and there.

cereal( i have cheerios and milk)

two servings of peanut butter

Some home made french fries

2 whey shakes

Fiber one whole wheat.

apple

1500 cals, 162.4 grams of proteins. Cals when up and down for the most part but that was pretty much a base so I could have a treat here and there without going too overboard. Went from 164 in june to 138.
Cool, thanks.

I'm TRYING to do 2 whey shakes a day (since two days ago). I'll see how long I can keep it up.
 
Sarye said:
I've done it. It's easy obstacle wise. I guess it depends on where you run but I did it in Windham, NY and it's a lot of hills. The first mile was all uphill and killed a lot of the runners. I think they purposely did this to make the obstacles harder because it was really easy for me even when winded.

I didn't train except for the usual lifting that I do. If you are even remotely athletic you can do it no problem. There are a lot of out of shape people doing it for fun so it's not as crazy as they make it out to be.

Cheers. Hills shouldn't be a problem as my training runs usually include Highgate and Parliament Hill (twice each) so should be ok.

Researching it on google has led me to Tough Mudder and Tough Guy. I think Tough Guy will be one for Jan 2013, Tough Mudder may be a go for next May, as well as the Warrior dash in June. It means I'll have to start running again sooner than planned but it won't be the end of the world.
 

Carbonox

Member
X-Frame said:
Forgive me if you already mentioned this, but what was the diagnoses with your abdomen?

And as far as your diet, if you can already handle your protein requirements (which is what most people fail at) then the rest is gravy. Add in a lot of veggies at meals, eggs, fruits, etc.

Sorry, not abdomen. Hip flexor strain. Unfortunately my hip flexors aren't in best shape and doing workouts that may get them pumping would always get me back. And it had done. 4-5 weeks is no laughing matter. :( I was still playing football, stupidly enough, though I had little trouble with that. I wasn't able to do a press-up without a huge amount of pain shooting up my left groin, though, if that highlights the severity of it.

Outside of the gym I'm going to be working on them to get them more resilient. Stretching is not hard.
 
balddemon said:
I just did 5 sets of 20 dips. Is it time for weighted dips? This was basically pre workout warmup.

Seems like a pretty intense warmup. I'd switch them to the end of chest day (or maybe shoulder depending on your routine).

Yeah, get a dip belt, certainly seems like you could be doing them weighted at this point.
 

X-Frame

Member
Here is Part 2 of Brian St. Pierre's milk series on Eric Cressey's blog.

The Skinny on Dairy Fat

Whole or full-fat dairy is actually a topic I want to cover in a lot of detail. I personally feel that this is a grossly misunderstood topic, and I want to clarify several things here.

There is actually a good amount of research, in several populations, that shows that full-fat dairy consumption is associated with lower BMI, lower waist circumference, and lower risk of cardiovascular disease (especially stroke). Yes, you read that right: whole fat dairy is associated with a decreased risk of CVD, especially stroke. Low-fat or fat-free dairy is actually often associated with increased BMI and waist circumference (though to be fair this is not always the case).

In fact Dr. Ronald Krauss, one the world’s leading lipid researchers, showed that while saturated fat from dairy does raise LDL, it is an increase in large, fluffy and benign LDL – not the small, dense and atherogenic LDL.

Whole fat dairy from grass-fed cows contains a boatload of powerful vitamins and healthful fatty acids. These vitamins are fat-soluble, meaning they are bonded to the fatty acids in the dairy, and are therefore nearly non-existent in fat-free dairy, same for the fatty acids obviously. The fat is where vitamins A, D, E and K2 are, as well as conjugated linoleic acid (CLA), butyric acid, omega-3 fatty acids, trans-palmitoleate and medium chain triglycerides. Low-fat and fat-free dairy are woefully lacking in these properties.

CLA is present in human body fat in proportion to dietary intake, and has been shown to be a powerful ally in the fight against cancer. Meat and dairy from grass-fed animals provide the richest source of CLA on the planet, containing three to five times more CLA than feedlot-raised animals. CLA has been found to greatly reduce tumor growth in animals, and possibly in humans as well. In a Finnish study, women who had the highest levels of CLA in their diet had a 60% lower risk of breast cancer than those with the lowest levels. Simply switching from conventionally-raised grain-fed meat and dairy to pasture-raised grass-fed versions would have placed all the women in the lowest risk category.

In addition, CLA may also help to fight against heart disease. In a study of 3626 Costa Rican men and women (a country that uses traditional pasture-grazing for dairy cows), people with the highest level of CLA in their body fat were 49% less likely to have had a heart attack, compared to those with the lowest level. This may be due to CLA intake and tissue levels being associated with greater amounts of large and fluffy LDL, and inversely associated with small and dense LDL.

Vitamin D is pretty much the best thing since sliced bread, and getting some from food is always a good thing. Low blood levels of vitamin D are associated with lowered immunity, increased risk of 17 cancers (and counting), increased risk of heart disease, neurological and psychological disorders (including ADD and depression), diabetes, stroke, hypertension, bone loss, and loss of muscle mass and strength as we age and more.

Omega-3s are absolutely amazing, as they may improve nerve, brain, eye, heart and cardiovascular function as well as decreasing inflammation, joint pain, arthritis, psychological disorders, and risk of breast cancer and heart disease – all while improving mood and body composition!

Medium chain triglycerides are unique fatty acids that are more readily utilized as fuel rather than stored as energy, as well as particular ones, like lauric acid, containing anti-viral and anti-microbial properties.

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Vitamins A and E are powerful antioxidants.

Butryric acid may help with bodyweight regulation, and is a primary fuel source for our intestinal flora.

Notice that I didn’t mention vitamin K2 yet? That is because I was saving what might be the best for last. Several studies have found that a higher vitamin K2 intake is associated with a lower risk of heart attack, ischemic stroke, cancer incidence, cancer mortality and overall mortality. Men with the highest vitamin K2 consumption had a 51% lower risk of heart attack mortality and a 26% lower risk of all cause mortality compared to men consuming the lowest amount!

One of the ways vitamin K2 improves cardiovascular health is its ability to prevent and decrease arterial calcification by 30-40%. And, this only speaks to vitamin K2’s effects of cardiovascular health; it is also crucially important for proper fetal development and bone health, to name a few additional benefits.

What about Dairy and Diabetes?

With little fanfare, a study recently came out by Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian and colleagues. Why so little fanfare, you ask? Because the study suggests that dairy fat may actually protect against diabetes, and that goes against conventional wisdom and government recommendations.

Dr. Mozaffarian and company collected two measures of dairy fat intake in 3,736 Americans. They took six 24-hour dietary recall questionnaires, as well as taking blood levels of trans-palmitoleate. Trans-palmitoleate comes almost exclusively dairy fat and red meat fat, and therefore it reflects the intakes of these foods. Dairy provided most of the trans-palmitoleate fatty acid in this study.

Adjustments were made for confounding factors, and trans-palmitoleate levels were associated with a smaller waist circumference, higher HDL cholesterol, lower serum triglycerides, lower C-reactive protein, lower fasting insulin and lower calculated insulin resistance. In addition to that awesome data, people who had the highest levels of trans-palmitoleate had 1/3 the risk of developing diabetes over the 3 year study period.

Again, it is important to note that trans-palmitoleate is a fatty acid, and so is only significant from whole fat dairy, not from low-fat or fat-free. The investigators also noted that “greater whole-fat dairy consumption was associated with lower risk for diabetes.” This is an important distinction as it wasn’t just trans-palmitoleate levels that were associated with the decreased risk, but the actual consumption of the food that provides that element was as well.

Here’s another nice quote from the authors: “Our findings support potential metabolic benefits of dairy consumption and suggest that trans-palmitoleate may mediate these effects. They also suggest that efforts to promote exclusive consumption of low-fat and nonfat dairy products, which would lower population exposure to trans-palmitoleate, may be premature until the mediators of the health effects of dairy consumption are better established.”

While it is certainly possible that trans-palmitoleate is mediating a lot of these positive health outcomes that were associated with it, in all reality it only makes up a tiny fraction of the fat content of milk. I tend to believe that instead it is more of a marker of dairy fat intake, with the benefits more likely coming from the other elements contained in dairy fat – CLA, vitamin K2, butyric acid, vitamin D, etc.

Stay tuned for part 3!
 

kylej

Banned
balddemon said:
I just did 5 sets of 20 dips. Is it time for weighted dips? This was basically pre workout warmup.

You go below parallel in your dips? 100 times? Are you super skinny or just strong as hell? I can't imagine doing 100 perfect form dips.
 
Haven't run on flat ground in a while and then yesterday I ran hills and sprinted on flat ground in my Vibrams. Feet are fine but shit my calves are sore. Tomorrow's stair runs are going to suck.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Soo, that back pain I induced upon myself by squatting without warming up properly just "dissappeared" today while I was working out.

In between a set of decline flys I stepped over the bench, "heard" a pop and felt a shock in my hip area.

today, no pain what so ever the rest of today.

Not sure what the hell happened, hoping it's not going to bite me in the ass tomorrow, but I think something awesome may have happened.

Also, 280 5x5 bench today. Decided to go away from "heavy small sets" and back to 5x5 for bench too. Seems to be going well.
 
Is it bad to work so close to your max heart rate? My resting heart rate is ~48. When I do my hiit I get up to about 195 and can get as high as 200. Should I tone my intensity down?
 
cuevas said:
Is it bad to work so close to your max heart rate? My resting heart rate is ~48. When I do my hiit I get up to about 195 and can get as high as 200. Should I tone my intensity down?
It's a good way to find out if you have any heart defects.

I dunno, my hr gets pretty high when I do HIIT. As long as I'm warmed up first it feels fine. On very steep hills I might have to start walking and slow it down if it gets uncomfortable. Been doing hill runs for years, except for a 3 year break for my back injury. No sudden cardiac arrest yet. But ya, I doubt any doctor or trainer is going to tell you its safe.
 

X-Frame

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parrotbeak said:
Haven't run on flat ground in a while and then yesterday I ran hills and sprinted on flat ground in my Vibrams. Feet are fine but shit my calves are sore. Tomorrow's stair runs are going to suck.
I need to start running hills. You have no issue with your lower back or sciatica during or after running the hills?
 

MjFrancis

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parrotbeak said:
Haven't run on flat ground in a while and then yesterday I ran hills and sprinted on flat ground in my Vibrams. Feet are fine but shit my calves are sore. Tomorrow's stair runs are going to suck.
Running barefoot (or as good as) is always great for the calves.
 
X-Frame said:
I need to start running hills. You have no issue with your lower back or sciatica during or after running the hills?
Nope! I'm fine running hills, but flat ground can get a little sore sometimes. Yesterday was fine though. Back felt better than usual afterward and today. Still slight sciatica but not as bad as normal.

Stair runs are usually fine too.

MjFrancis said:
Running barefoot (or as good as) is always great for the calves.
Yup, I was just a little surprised cuz stair runs in Vibrams don't kill my calves like this.
 
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