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Florida Republican mayor shuts down early voting w/ 200 waiting, gives in hour later

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Korey

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Florida remains a liability for yet another presidential election, remains worst state of all time.

A voting debacle in Doral causes chaos and confusion


A voting debacle in Doral causes chaos and confusion

What began Sunday morning as an attempt by the Miami-Dade elections department to let more people early vote devolved into chaos and confusion only days before the nation decides its next president.

Call it the debacle in Doral.

Elections officials, overwhelmed with voters, locked the doors to their Doral headquarters and temporarily shut down the operation, angering nearly 200 voters standing in line outside — only to resume the proceedings an hour later.

On the surface, officials blamed technical equipment and a lack of staff for the shutdown. But behind the scenes, there was another issue: Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez.

The Republican had never signed off on the additional in-person absentee voting hours in the first place.

“That was counter to what I said on Friday, which was we were not going to change the game mid-stream,” he said. “I said, ‘No, there’s no way we did this.’”

But Gimenez, who is in a nonpartisan post, quickly realized it was better to let the voting go on, and the voting resumed.

The mayor said he found out early Sunday afternoon — from his daughter-in-law — about the extra voting hours.

The move had been approved by Deputy Mayor Alina Hudak at the request of Elections Supervisor Penelope Townsley. The plan was simple: Allow voters to request, fill out and return absentee ballots in person for four hours Sunday afternoon.

Early voting the Sunday before Election Day used to be allowed. But it was eliminated by the GOP-controlled state Legislature and Republican Gov. Rick Scott last year after Barack Obama used early voting to help him win Florida in 2008 — and therefore the presidency.

Gimenez said his initial reaction was to stop the last-minute Sunday voting.

But by then, around 180 people stood in line outside the elections office at 2700 NW 87th Ave. They shouted “Let us vote!” and banged on the locked glass doors.

“This is America, not a third-world country,” said Myrna Peralta, who waited in line with her 4-year-old grandson for nearly two hours before the doors closed. “They should have been prepared.”

“My beautiful Sunshine State,” she lamented. “They’re not letting people vote.”

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Nearly all the voters stayed in line until a campaign worker reported her car had been towed from a private parking lot across the street. Scores of people ducked out of the line to check on their own cars. A second car had been towed.

Behind closed doors were back-and-forth phone calls among the department, the county attorney’s office and the mayor, who eventually decided to let the people outside the elections department vote. Democrats also unleashed a torrent of phone calls to reporters and the county.

“I’m upset at this change, but at the end, when you have 200, 300 voters out there ready to go, you really can’t disenfranchise them,” Gimenez said. Of the whole situation, he added: “I’m certainly embarrassed.”

Really? You "really can't disenfranchise them" because there's so many of them? Gee, thanks.


The elections office reopened its doors at 3 p.m., after being closed for about an hour, apologizing and announcing that it had added a ballot-printing machine and more poll workers and would remain open until all voters in line at 5 p.m. had cast their in-person absentee ballots.

The crowd cheered. Around 400 people stood in line at 5 p.m. Campaign workers passed out bottled water and granola bars.

Despite lines up to seven hours long at times during eight days of early voting, Gimenez had decided late last week not to ask Gov. Scott to extend early-voting hours in Miami-Dade. The last early-voting polls officially closed at 7 p.m. Saturday, but they remained open until the last voter in line checked in with a poll worker — about 1 a.m. Sunday.

Gimenez defended his decision Sunday to refrain from asking the governor for more early-voting hours.

“We all knew what the rules were. When you start doing things like that, you’re opening to criticism of favoring one side or the other,” he said. “All of us knew it was going to be eight days of early voting. It was going to end on Saturday. There is going to be hundred of polling places [open] on Tuesday.”

Because when you let everyone vote who wants to, you're favoring a side.


The county did add poll workers, machines and voting booths to early-voting sites to alleviate some wait times.

On Sunday, Gimenez said he was angrier at Hudak, his deputy, than at Townsley, the elections supervisor.

“I’m going to have to deal with this internally,” he said. “I’m not saying somebody’s going to be lose their job, but somebody made a poor error in judgment that’s not really helping the community.”


Hudak told Miami Herald news partner WFOR-CBS 4 that she approved the decision, which at the time she did not see as a major policy shift.

“I apologized to the mayor,” she said. “I should have told him. I made a bad call.”

Gimenez said the elections department wanted to offer more hours of in-person absentee voting in part because some voters had yet to receive ballots the county had mailed them due to a post-office glitch.

Opening the elections office from 1 p.m. to 5 p.m. was a work-around to a provision in the state law that eliminated early voting the Sunday before Election Day. The Florida Democratic Party filed a lawsuit in the wee hours of Sunday morning seeking to somehow extend voting in Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties before Tuesday.

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The Democrats’ lawsuit, filed in Miami federal court, argued that an emergency judge’s order was necessary to “extend voting opportunities” before Tuesday in Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach, including allowing voters to cast absentee ballots in person.

It’s unclear exactly what more a court could have done, two days before Election Day. The lawsuit did not ask U.S. District Judge Patricia Seitz to reopen all early-voting sites.

“The extraordinarily long lines deterred or prevented voters from waiting to vote. Some voters left the polling sites upon learning of the expected wait, and others refused to line up altogether,” the lawsuit said. “These long lines and extreme delays unduly and unjustifiably burdened the right to vote.”

An attorney for the Miami-Dade elections supervisor filed a motion Sunday morning saying the lawsuit was moot because the county would allow for in-person absentee voting Sunday afternoon.

Democrats and Democratic-leaning groups had asked the governor late last week to extend early-voting hours by executive authority. Scott declined Thursday night.

On Friday, Monroe County Elections Supervisor Harry Sawyer Jr., a Republican, sent the governor a letter asking for more hours. Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner responded that the early-voting reports he was receiving from elections supervisors across the state were positive.

Scott signed a law last year reducing the number of early-voting days to eight from 14 and eliminating voting on the Sunday before Election Day, which Democrats used to turn out supporters in 2008. The new law guarantees one Sunday of early voting.

The number of maximum hours offered stayed the same on the books, but four years ago, then-Gov. Charlie Crist effectively extended early voting by another 24 hours.

Separately, the party sued in Orlando circuit court asking to extend early-voting hours in Orange County after a bomb scare temporarily closed a polling place. On Sunday morning, a judge ruled that the Winter Park early-voting site should open for four hours.

Excluding that site and the counties that allowed in-person absentee voting, more than 4.4 million Floridians had voted early or absentee by Sunday morning. More than 2.4 million people had voted early — most of them Democrats. More than 2 million had voted absentee — most of them Republicans.

In 2008, more people voted early, and fewer voted absentee.



Florida bomb squad detonates ‘suspicious packages’ found outside early voting site

A Florida bomb squad has detonated two suspicious packages that were discovered outside one of the state's early voting stations on Saturday morning.

Voting was suspended until 2 p.m. on the final day of early voting, with a long line of reportedly upset voters waiting to cast their ballots. Early voting has been popular in Florida, with an estimated 3.9 million votes already cast before next week's official Election Day.

The Orange County Bomb Squad said the main object in question was a cooler with a USB cord sticking out from its side. It was spotted by a voter outside the Winter Park Library at around 11:30 a.m. on Saturday.

A "suspicious garbage bag" discovered at the site was also detonated by authorities, according to local NBC affiliate WESH.com.

The AP says officials evacuated the library after the cooler and garbage bag were discovered. U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson has asked Gov. Rick Scott to issue an emergency order extending early voting hours through Sunday. But Scott has rejected similar requests and has not yet responded to Nelson's request.

In his letter to Gov. Scott, Sen. Nelson writes, "You should be doing everything in your power to make sure everybody has the chance to vote, and that their vote is counted. Instead, Gov. Scott, you are allowing people to be turned away and jeopardizing the credibility of Florida's election."



Voter Fraud Is Rare – and in This Cycle, It's All Been Committed by Republicans

Voter Fraud is exceedingly rare. A study by a consortium of journalism schools found only 867 proven cases in the United States since 2000. Democrats have been guilty in the past , but in 2012, all the fraud has apparently been on the Republican side of the aisle.



There's tons of shit happening in Ohio too:

Ohio: Turnout vs. Suppression

Last Minute Directive by Ohio's Jon Husted Could See Legal Votes Discarded & Swing the Election

The electronic architecture of voter suppression
 

LordCanti

Member
Florida and Ohio Republicans were always going to pull bullshit out of their hats at the last minute. It begins.

If it comes down to Ohio, election night is going to be a looooong night (if it's even over that night at all).
 

Arksy

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This is really sad. I love the fact that in Australian elections you have members of each political party watching the election officials like a fucking hawk.
 

i_am_ben

running_here_and_there
This is really sad. I love the fact that in Australian elections you have members of each political party watching the election officials like a fucking hawk.

Australia has fucking amazingly well run elections in general. Puts the USA to shame.
 
Romney may carry Florida because of these heinous attempts at vote suppression but Obama will win the election regardless.
 

Volimar

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I really want Husted to be brought up on charges. He violated a court order, and now he issues an illegal order to violate the civil rights of potentially thousands of voters.

Contempt of Court at the least.
 

Brinbe

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smfh @ such blatantly disgusting behavior. Only way to win is to not let anyone play vote.

Never been a more appropriate thread for
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Oppo

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As far as I can tell most Western countries put the US to shame when it comes to elections. In what civilized (and rich) country do people have to wait for hours just so they can vote ?

It's really true. Although USA has a high population. But yes I think the most I've waited to vote for anything in Canada is 10 minutes.
 

IrishNinja

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Korey/others: can you at least bash our shitty governor without constantly making it an FL hate fest? it's getting pretty old.

i will consider joining your lowly ilk if rick scott gets reelected in 2014 but given his approval rating i dont see how that's possible

Doral of all places. Weird.

yeah, you know it's even worse cause of the traffic too...i voted at west dade regional so i wanna say that's sweetwater, that's as close as i got there
 

Volimar

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Korey/others: can you at least bash our shitty governor without constantly making it an FL hate fest? it's getting pretty old.

i will consider joining your lowly ilk if rick scott gets reelected in 2014 but given his approval rating i dont see how that's possible



yeah, you know it's even worse cause of the traffic too...i voted at west dade regional so i wanna say that's sweetwater, that's as close as i got there



I think Florida's reputation ship has sailed as far as GAF goes...
 

IrishNinja

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I think Florida's reputation ship has sailed as far as GAF goes...

we just need the rules to lax for like 8 hours, we can turn this ship around with one good latina ass thread, you'll see

related: north florida can go fuck itself in its flat ass
 

Amir0x

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The most frustrating thing about the Republican drive to suppress votes - and, sorry neoGAF Republicans, but that's what this has been about since day 1 - is that the electorate that votes these animals into office are actually giving them political cover. They've purchased what they've been sold about 'voter fraud' and that somehow voting early opens up a world of illegal immigrants and mickey mouses stealing elections, and as such think it's perfectly in line with the principles of our founding to do these disgusting things.


Until their own voters start hitting back for this behavior, they'll keep trying it because it can only help them win.

I can't tell you the number of Republicans at my job that tell me that Early Voting is a violation of the constitution...
 

Volimar

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The most frustrating thing about the Republican drive to suppress votes - and, sorry neoGAF Republicans, but that's what this has been about since day 1 - is that the electorate that votes these animals into office are actually giving them political cover. They've purchased what they've been sold about 'voter fraud' and that somehow voting early opens up a world of illegal immigrants and mickey mouses stealing elections, and as such think it's perfectly in line with the principles of our founding to do these disgusting things.


Until their own voters start hitting back for this behavior, they'll keep trying it because it can only help them win.

I can't tell you the number of Republicans at my job that tell me that Early Voting is a violation of the constitution...

Wow. There's strict constructionism and then there's just being a parody of yourself.
 
Hey future President, maybe once you got there, it will be time to make voting easier don't you think ?

USA claims to be first democracy yatta yatta but everywhere I heard that the actual voting is a nightmare for everyone
 

Steelrain

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Hey future President, maybe once you got there, it will be time to make voting easier don't you think ?

USA claims to be first democracy yatta yatta but everywhere I heard that the actual voting is a nightmare for everyone

Absentee ballots are where it's at.
 
The funny thing is in most states if you live outside of a city (which would be Republicans by a huge percent) you get your ballot mailed to you and you send it back in. Very easy, not time consuming and very susceptible to fraud.
 
I really want Husted to be brought up on charges. He violated a court order, and now he issues an illegal order to violate the civil rights of potentially thousands of voters.

Contempt of Court at the least.

At this point Treason and capital punishment should be on the table.
 
Not sure why when people say 'voter fraud is committed by party X' they act like their doing so in an official capacity. America's 'us' VS 'them' politics is always pretty ugly to see.

Anyways this sounds more like pure incompetence than anything else.
 

Tristam

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Not sure why when people say 'voter fraud is committed by party X' they act like their doing so in an official capacity. America's 'us' VS 'them' politics is always pretty ugly to see.

Anyways this sounds more like pure incompetence than anything else.

Er, decisions by people such as Husted and Rick Scott are quite deliberate.
 

Aylinato

Member
Not sure why when people say 'voter fraud is committed by party X' they act like their doing so in an official capacity. America's 'us' VS 'them' politics is always pretty ugly to see.

Anyways this sounds more like pure incompetence than anything else.


No, they are doing it on purpose because they have become so desperate that they will forsake our constitutional rights just to attempt to take some extra votes from the opposition.

I have never felt like my vote counted so much until now.
 

Wazzim

Banned
As far as I can tell most Western countries put the US to shame when it comes to elections. In what civilized (and rich) country do people have to wait for hours just so they can vote ?

To be fair, the US always seems more like a big 'sandbox' model of a western nation to me. You can only do so much with the huge population and limited resources.
 

sprsk

force push the doodoo rock
This is going to be a fun few days. Hope everyone of these crooked mother fuckers gets locked up.
 

Zoe

Member
They should have never extended the hours in the first place, especially when you don't have everyone on board. Make your policies and stick to them.
 
the US needs an independent Federal body that overseas Elections.

This whole State's rights argument is an excuse to keep giving power to local officials to fix the outcome
 

Escape Goat

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They should have never extended the hours in the first place, especially when you don't have everyone on board. Make your policies and stick to them.

Extending voting hours is and was the right thing to do. Unfortunately it went from bottom up and not the other way around. This blame lies with Rick Scott and the GOP.
 
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