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Football Thread 2013/14 |OT20| I don't really give a shit what any title is

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we somehow don't have a capable defensive midfielder... Khedira (if fit) is a headless chicken, Lahm is a defensive 'liability' and Schweini is way past past it. Kroos can't handle the 6 alone and Ginter... well. I just figured it's best to pray for a Oliver Kirch like performance from Bender and basically mirror Dortmund's playstyle.

EC 2012 Khedira was awesome. After eating all the praise he got there up he thought he could try chilling in the opponents box and be at times the most offensive player on the pitch, although he can't even produce a clean first touch. He didn't just do this shit at the DFB he did it as well at Real.
Don't know what's gotten into him.

Still don't know about Bender. He is the only classic "sweeping" 6 we've got, but who knows, maybe Kevin "Nanny für alles" Großkreutz can jump into that gap. Tall, runs a lot and could work as a box to box player.

Guardiola trying to replicate Busquets with Kroos and Lahm hasn't worked out. Both have no physical presence at all and Kroos can't handle 1v1 pressure as well as Lahm, who at least thanks to his low centre of gravity can make quick turns to be more resilient to it.

Maybe Schweinsteiger alone in an 4-1-4-1 formation might work. He's the closest to a box to box player. In a Guardiola style possession system (you know Löw is gonna dickride on Guardiola style haaarrrrrrrrd) it might work.

EDIT: Look at this ridiculous squad in the upcoming test against Poland? Can't we just cancel that game?

Goal: Ron-Robert Zieler (Hannover 96), Marc-Andre ter Stegen (Borussia Mönchengladbach);

Defense: Sebastian Jung (Eintracht Frankfurt), Matthias Ginter (SC Freiburg), Christian Günter (SC Freiburg), Benedikt Höwedes (Schalke 04), Shkodran Mustafi (Sampdoria Genua), Antonio Rüdiger (VfB Stuttgart), Oliver Sorg (SC Freiburg)

Midfield: Maximilian Arnold (VfL Wolfsburg), Sebastian Rudy (1899 Hoffenheim), Lars Bender (Bayer Leverkusen), Julian Draxler (Schalke 04), Leon Goretzka (Schalke 04), Andre Hahn (FC Augsburg), Christoph Kramer (Borussia Mönchengladbach), Max Meyer (Schalke 04),

Striker: Kevin Volland (1899 Hoffenheim)
 
I just tried to think of a best starting lineup. It's harder than you'd think, the striker situation is ridiculous.

I'd love to see Klose beast once again but I have major doubts about him having the ability to play a full tournament. He would get injured at some point, certainly can't start every match. And then we have who? A good old striker like Gomez would have been great.

At this point, Reus will make or break this World Cup for Germany.
 

Blablurn

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very romantic!

bla in your own words could you define globalization

test tomorrow, every bit helps

You make Globalization. Globalization doesn't make you. #Globalization

The Hope of Globalization lies in Port Management #Globalization

The Port is the gateway to succes in Globalization #Globalization
 
Definitely better to watch. I love the idea that Mourinho has fallen out with/is annoyed by all 3 of them.
Remember when Chelsea and Chelsea-GAF were adamant that United were up to no good when the Mata/Luiz rumours broke out in the summer. Fady especially was apoplectic at our lies.

M8. Mufc, forged in industry, striving for honesty.
 
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Will need this for Sunday.
 

Lightning

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Same as Liverpool then really. Though I do wonder if there are Arsenal fans who would trade the FA Cup for going into the last day in contention for the title, even if they likely ended up second
second
I consider our season to be a success. Winning the league was always going to be really tough given the limitations of our squad. You can go through and nitpick certain results like some fools do but every club that doesn't win it, especially Chelsea, can do the same. The fact is this is part and parcel the same team from last season with Ozil added and last season we crashed out of the FA cup to Blackburn and finished 18 points of the title so to be 7 points off with the possibility of the FA cup? Very good for me, would have accepted that at the start of the season.

I wouldn't swap our position for Liverpool's solely because of the pressure Arsenal have to end the trophy drought. Also Ozil cones and we win a trophy, I like that a lot. Trophy success can propel confidence and more success from our younger players which is better for us than almost winning the league but missing out by 1 game.

If Arsenal were in Liverpool's position everyone would laugh at us and say we chocked and say 9-10 years no trophy lol!
 

pulga

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I have a degree in economics. Ask me anything.

please tell me more of the absolute and comparative advantage of nations

The world has become more connected through the advancement in (communication) technologies and transportation.

do they teach globalization in high school

You make Globalization. Globalization doesn't make you. #Globalization

The Hope of Globalization lies in Port Management #Globalization

The Port is the gateway to success in Globalization #Globalization

Damn. Insightful.

are they only picking klose to try to beat ronaldo's scoring record?

yes, fucking knobends
 

L1NETT

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http://www.thefa.com/news/thefa/2014/may/fa-commission-report

FA commission report is published if you want to have a butchers

Their proposed solutions is a horrfying nightmare glimpse into the future on the road towards a European superleague

This helps about 5 clubs

Good god reading the Strategic Loan partnership thing

Allowing big clubs to loan 8 players to a feeder club, and the big club is allowed to dictate the loan by sending their OWN coaches to guide their development according the big club's philosophy.
 

Meier

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Gomez doesn't have much of a lobby in Germany because his last name is Gomez. Podolski and Özil probably receive more criticism than natural German players as well. Things like this do make a difference even if we want to pretend they don't.

I think the criticism of Altidore has been worse because he's American. He's had an awful season and no one would say otherwise, but he has multiple things going against him perception wise. Clint Dempsey didn't get as much praise a few years back as he deserved when he scored 17 in the league and 23 overall because he was American. Praise is mooted and criticism is amplified for Americans playing soccer abroad for a variety of reasons.

I'd like to think Gerrard finished over Yaya in the FWA primarily because of nationalistic pride but there's undoubtedly an element of race to it as well. I don't think either is necessarily intentional either but it happens subconsciously or otherwise. If he doesn't make the next UEFA or FIFA TOTY then we'll know that there is more cause for concern.
 

bjaelke

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This helps about 5 clubs

There are several (other) initiatives in the report.

Just going over it right now, but this one caught my eye:
Currently, clubs are allowed to borrow up to eight players on standard loans
each season, but only four plus a youth player from one club. Under the
SLP system, a Senior club would be allowed to lend up to eight players to its
Partner club at any time.
 

Scum

Junior Member
http://www.thefa.com/news/thefa/2014/may/fa-commission-report

FA commission report is published if you want to have a butchers

Their proposed solutions is a horrfying nightmare glimpse into the future on the road towards a European superleague

This helps about 5 clubs

Good god reading the Strategic Loan partnership thing

Allowing big clubs to loan 8 players to a feeder club, and the big club is allowed to dictate the loan by sending their OWN coaches to guide their development according the big club's philosophy.

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Feorax

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Liverpool Echo seem to think that if we're going to break the bank, it's for a goalscoring number 10. Probably means Coutinho continuing to play deeper, and Sterling staying out wide.

Some other interesting bits:

- Suso and Ilori are expected to be part of the squad next season, assuming they perform adequately in pre-season.

- Assaidi and Aspas definately on the way out.

- Agger looking to be on the way out.

- Lucas fate still very much up in the air.

- Borini's future is up to him. If he's happy to be third choice striker, he will stay.
 

Scum

Junior Member
There are several (other) initiatives in the report.

Just going over it right now, but this one caught my eye:
Currently, clubs are allowed to borrow up to eight players on standard loans
each season, but only four plus a youth player from one club. Under the
SLP system, a Senior club would be allowed to lend up to eight players to its
Partner club at any time.

Reads like the kind of thing Danny Mills will come up with.
 
Liverpool Echo seem to think that if we're going to break the bank, it's for a goalscoring number 10. Probably means Coutinho continuing to play deeper, and Sterling staying out wide.

Some other interesting bits:

- Suso and Ilori are expected to be part of the squad next season, assuming they perform adequately in pre-season.

- Assaidi and Aspas definately on the way out.

- Agger looking to be on the way out.

- Lucas fate still very much up in the air.

- Borini's future is up to him. If he's happy to be third choice striker, he will stay.

Woah, our predictions are either true, or at least tally up with those of the Echo :p


Hopefully the Football League, and most of the PL rejects these proposals. And if that happens, I don't want any 'maybe we'll join a European Superleague' shite from the big boys.
 

Pennywise

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Gomez doesn't have much of a lobby in Germany because his last name is Gomez. Podolski and Özil probably receive more criticism than natural German players as well. Things like this do make a difference even if we want to pretend they don't.

Bullshit.

That doesn't matter here, apart from a few blockheads.
Podolski was one of our biggest talents 2004 and he made some stupid decisions (going back to cologne or joining Bayern).
He could have been alot better, but nearly every of our wingers is a better player these days.

Özil get's the same amount of criticism as he get's at Arsenal, he can be the player that decides the match.Sadly, if he doesn't he's pretty much invisible alot of the time.

And Gomez had bad luck and quite a few injuries, plus there was someone who was constantly making goals, his name is Klose.
Now, Gomez was injured nearly the entire season while someone like Volland just stood out the same season.
Plus Gomez just isn't the type of player Löw likes, Klose is pretty much integrated into the system while Gomez struggled pretty often.


Gomez is a nice and cool guy though, his reaction to the nomination was awesome.
Just shows that he is a teamplayer.
 
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