-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Football Thread 2017/18 |OT| Relegated to Community
- Thread starter Lunar FC
- Start date
- Status
BT do that on their own.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
According to those rags, there is a club in crisis every week. Last week it was Chelsea. Newcastle will win next week and everyone will forget about this nonsense.
There's no need to be upset. Leave that for us Newcastle fans.
bonesmccoy
Banned
It's Rafa. Such an unlikable man.
No, I haven't forgiven him for what he did to Xabi, even if that wasn't completely his fault.
EFL launched their own streaming service in the States this year. I'd probably sign up if Fulham were on there. Otherwise, ESPN3 shows like two Championship games per matchday.
http://worldsoccertalk.com/2017/05/...-know-football-leagues-new-streaming-service/
http://worldsoccertalk.com/2017/05/...-know-football-leagues-new-streaming-service/
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Do what I do, blame Gareth Barry.
I could never dislike Rafa, recently he showed up at a charity run for Hillsborough and stopped to shake hands with every single participant. He's a class act.
kqedequalsvolvo
Member
Absolutely boiled my piss last season - I'm a QPR fan and 99% of Champ coverage was discussion of the Toon as champions-elect and earnest discussions about Rafa's ability to spend what was 'necessary'. Moaned when they should have walked the division last season and still moaning this season, off the back of financially doping the market beyond belief. There's a reason you can barely pick up a 10 goal a season striker in The Championship for shy of about £4m and that's largely down to Newcastle and VIlla.
Still, personal revenge when we got a last minute equaliser last season at St James Park and I fell down 3 rows of seats.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
I wonder if we're gonna sell Sakho for the desired 30 mil or if we'll be accepting lowball offers by deadline day out of desperation.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
The whole thing is so ridiculous. He's not good enough for Liverpool, but we still want 30m for him. We have a woeful defence that won't be improved this year, but this 30m player can't get into the team because he was late for a flight last year?
I don't know wtf they are thinking. We will get to the last day and loan him out like we always fucking do, then he will have a great season at whatever mid-season club he goes to. Meanwhile Liverpool will concede 50 goals this season and all year I will be moaning in this thread about loaning out Sakho.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
It's Ludovic Giuly as an ambassador.
It's mad, we are getting Hoedt for £15m.
Sky with no sport will fail and with BT willing to spend the cash at the next round of bidding, you could easily see sky drop from 126 pl games and BT go up from 48 (I think). It's chump change anyway, equivalent to 18 pl games in cost.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
I mean I'm cool with Klopp not wanting him, that's his decision and I'll trust the manager, but 20-25 mil should be enough for it right? Everyone knows we want him off the books so we're not in a position of power here, if people don't pay, we'll loan him anyway.
Just want it behind us really.
True Savior
Member
Nah. That was just trash from portuguese newspapers or ridiculous offers. This is the real deal. He has a buyout clause (45M€
and english clubs are very rich so he will leave for something around that number (35-40 plus some variables).bonesmccoy
Banned
What is Klopp's issue with Sahko anyway? Personality?
Sahko does strike me as the kind of defender who relies upon his raw athleticism to overcome deficiencies in technique and reading the game, but still. He's better than what we've got there now, at least until age catches up.
Sahko does strike me as the kind of defender who relies upon his raw athleticism to overcome deficiencies in technique and reading the game, but still. He's better than what we've got there now, at least until age catches up.
Unreal Champ
Banned
Glad someone else agrees with me. His treatment of Sakho is fucking appalling. It's like Sakho fucked his wife or something.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Seen this earlier and the fucking song has been stuck in my head all day. Gonna watch Rush Hour tonight
"Ya'll don't know nothing about no war"
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
If we just look at the facts, it doesn't add up. It started with Sakho taking a fat burner last year. He didn't tell the club, which is obviously pretty bad, but it wasn't on the banned substances list. Since he missed the Europa Final and all of Euro 16, I would say he has payed for that mistake and then some.
The other issues were him being late for a flight and a team meal. A suspension and a fine seems more than sufficient for these issues. The last problem with him was a social media post which was essentially him venting about not being picked for whatever reason and saying he was frustrated. It wasn't the smartest move in the world, but what he was saying was the truth and, honestly, can you blame him? I'd be frustrated if I wasn't being picked in a defense that's leaking goals every game.
How these transgressions add up to a year of being frozen out of a team desperately short of defensive quality is beyond me.You might say that we don't know all the details, and that's true, but the club haven't been shy about leaking details of the drama thru their own personal mouth of Sauron: James Pearce. If there were more unkown details to be learned, I'm not so sure those details would make LFC look any better. All of this is made all the more ridiculous by the 30m price tag we have slapped on him, if the club didn't rate him then why are they pricing him out of reach for many clubs. Even today, 30m is excessive for a defender unwanted by the selling club that has barely played in 18 months and is recovering from a long term injury.
The whole thing is genuinely making me question Klopp's managerial abilities. Can he really not find a solution to this problem? If we loan out Sakho without signing another defender, it will yet again signal to me that there are serious problems behind the scenes. This will be hugely magnified if we sell Coutinho as well.
The club has been laughably inept in the market thus far, and it's going to cost the fans, most of whom seen all this coming a mile away.
Apologies for the rant, but it's really getting on my tits.
Sakho is all but done at Liverpool, after all the problems and run ins with Rodgers and Klopp there's probably no way back for him. Fuck me, its only earlier on this year he was at Anfield celebrating with Benteke after he scored and he wasn't even in the palace squad.
He's learned nothing, he's still only 27 so 30m is fair enough in todays market.
He's learned nothing, he's still only 27 so 30m is fair enough in todays market.
bonesmccoy
Banned
The Skirtle!
WhateverItTakes
Banned
I will be interested in hearing the full full story, but that's some years down the line I assume, or Sakho leaving and then running his mouth once he's out of our clutches. You would have thought the club would have leaked all the worst stuff to justify themselves already though.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I think they already have leaked everything that will make them look like the good guys. I think Sakho and Klopp just don't get on for whatever reason and the team is paying the price for personal stubbornness. If he can improve the defence he should be in the team.
Earlier in the year we were fucking up our season and playing lucas at CB, meanwhile Sakho was picking up MOTM awards at palace and I was wanting to explode.
Unreal Champ
Banned
That's my exact thoughts. Things don't add up and make sense as far as for what he is being punished for. It just doesn't make sense.
What problems though that was so severe that he is frozen out of the club despite our defence being shit? It has nothing to do with what he did anymore and more to do with Kloop's pride and ego.
So a guy messing about with his teammates is not suppose to happen? To me that screams nothing but "NO fun allowed" If I was a footballer, I wouldn't want to play for a team where I can't have a bit of fun.
con-ca-te-nate
Member
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
https://twitter.com/davidgold/status/899055287868547072
Ok, it's funny, but should West Ham's owner really be slating their new signings in the name of social media banter?
Ok, it's funny, but should West Ham's owner really be slating their new signings in the name of social media banter?
His Majesty
Banned
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Is Dominic Calvert-Lewin starting tonight? 7/1 to be booked on bet365 is tasty
Guess West Ham are rich
EDIT: CITY XI | Ederson, Walker, Danilo, Kompany, Stones, Aguero, De Bruyne, David Silva, Fernandinho, Otamendi, Gabriel Jesus.
Guess West Ham are rich
EDIT: CITY XI | Ederson, Walker, Danilo, Kompany, Stones, Aguero, De Bruyne, David Silva, Fernandinho, Otamendi, Gabriel Jesus.
His Majesty
Banned
Fraudiola can field as many central defenders as he wants, Stones will still be shit.
The guy was known to be disruptive before he signed for Liverpool. He was included in the squad for the pre season tour of the US after the fat-burner issue and he acts like a twat again. Maybe Klopp has half the ego of Sakho.
You can read whatever into those gifs, They were before Klopp came to Liverpool.
cromofo
Member
He's always been funny on twitter.
I would agree with you but he's on-loan and I can see Adrián getting back in if things don't work out.
Ahh, I see, thanks for the correction. It's an unknown league, market and player for me!
English clubs are ridiculously rich. I'm not sure whether West Ham's owners are willing to go much further. But I'm also unsure how much they'd previously bid. I thought they'd had a bid accepted - again that could just have been paper talk.
If we don't get him because Sporting are fucking about, I can't blame the board.
Same thing happened with Lacazette, Lyon fucked us around with the price and we said 'bye!'
I profited off our defeat yesterday and also used the free bet from that to make more from Chelsea's win.
You do matched betting at least, right?
- Status