Frank De Boer is shit
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Football Thread 2017/18 |OT2| Fractured but Ox
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Frank De Boer is shit
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Formation wasn't what I meant. I was on about his playing style.
McMoneyman
Member
If they replace him with Hodgson. I hope Crystal Palace go down.
Shavaunne1
Member
The whole thing makes palace look like idiots. If you're going to hire a manager who is well known for a possession based playing philosophy (that you know your club isn't used to) then one would at least expect that you would have the sense to bring in the players that fits that philosophy (especially technically gifted midfielders) and while they did bring in a few ok players for that style in the forms of loftus cheek and fosu mensah it was not nearly enough to help. And then after their failure to bring in the right players the palace board is expecting the team to be adapting quickly to this new style when they didn't even sort out the problem. I mean ffs its only FOUR GAMES! This stuff just pisses me off when I see it in football. Palace basically screwed the manager. They brought him in, didn't bring in the proper tools to help him do well then when he can't get the results immediately (SHOCKING), they cut him loose. God damn it palace.
With that said, I guess frank de boer could have at least adapted and toned it down with the possession heavy system seeing that his team wasn't suited to it. Plus they didn't look terrible all the time. Their last match wasn't that bad. If they took their chances they would have been fine.
Sigh..... This whole thing is just infuriating to see
CecilRousso
Member
Not sure why you're going off on such a long angry rant, and then answer the question as to why yourself.
De Boer knew what players we had, he promised to adapt, be flexible and not rush it, and then undermines everyones confidence in himself by doing the opposite in every way, and immedietaly put our season i jepoardy by that. I'm a Palace since 20+ years, and this is infuriating for me as well. But I can't see why De Boer shouldn't get at least as much blame as Palace for this.
I read his interviews, I saw the pre-season matches, I read up about training sessions, I saw the competitive matches that I could see, and his choices were baffling. And I suspect the board thought the same thoughts.
Shavaunne1
Member
Not sure why you're going off on such a long angry rant, and then answer the question as to why yourself.
I'm a Palace since 20+ years, and this is infuriating for me as well. But I can't see why De Boer shouldn't get at least as much blame as Palace for this.
I read his interviews, I saw the pre-season matches, I read up about training sessions, I saw the competitive matches that I could see, and his choices were baffling. And I suspect the board thought the same thoughts.
I agree that they both deserve blame but what I'm saying is that it was only four games. Surely the board didn't expect them to be adapting to a new brand of football that quickly especially when they didn't use the transfer window effectively to get the right players. Then they just sack him. Yeah he is at fault too because he could have adjusted his tactics but if this is the way the situation was going to be handled then I don't even see the point of hiring him. I can't get over the fact that it was just four games.
Sorry for the whole angry rant thing. I'm not even a palace fan. But seeing situations like this in football just gets on my nerves.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
That's not really what he said though. He said they found it difficult to defend against Liverpool before the first goal, which is absolutely true.
McMoneyman
Member
If just Salah could score on his 1st shot, not 3rd or 4th! Arghh!
Salah has been pretty shit so far, despite what many claim. He hasn't settled in to Klopps system yet.
McMoneyman
Member
I wouldn't call him shit yet. He's done somethings well, just need to be more effective in front of goal. I think a problem is that Firmino and Mané has been so good.
Also I like that he has that nose to be in the right spot for rebounds and what not.
MikeBison
Member
I think he's settled into the system perfectly. He's a large factor in us blitzing Hoffenheim and Arsenal.
His finishing has just been a bit off. Still scored and assisted decently though.
I've never seen a red card change the game as quickly as with the game against city though. It's on Klopp that it became a pounding, but honestly not too worried. Even at 1-0 I saw it being only a matter of time before we scored. I mean the red card came from one of those dangerous opportunities that 4/5 times results in a goal for us.
I felt worse after the 3-3 with Watford than I did after the City game. Having a CL game at Anfield in a couple of days helps wash it away even further.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Salah has 2 goals and 1 assist in 4 league games. If that's shit form from an unsettled player, I'll take it.
GoldenCrow
Member
Otamendi found it extremely difficult against Salah and Stones did a Stones and made a few mistakes but the line was comfortable with what came in. It was only when Salah cut into the half space and beat the line the threat appeared but was very wasteful or lacked support. Then he was taken off for some unknown reason. Maybe as a damage limitation for the next few matches as City were clearly prepared to cut him down.
McMoneyman
Member
We didn't play well. But City really took us to the cleaners in the 2nd half, some praise need to go to them as well.
Putting Can on defence near Klavan and a Matip that clearly had given up was a death sentence. Also I think the City game showed that Trent Alexander-Arnold is nowhere near the finished article.
GoldenCrow
Member
Indeed they are bad. Out of the PL season Salah and Mané are going to be the hardest players they have to deal with. They will get gutted by RM and PSG though.
Liverpool have a soft centre and the kid on their right was targeted all game. All threats to Liverpool in that game came from the exact same areas and the same types of balls were played by multiple City players all game. Plus they let KdB just swan about.
Whats with Bayern and PR disaster'ed their own player there.O_O I mean first Douglas Costa and now Lewadoski? There is going to be terrible atmosphere in the club there.
Lewandowski is a known diva. same goes for costa.
I don't think it's going to change the atmosphere.
As Diva as Lewa was, i think Lewa is very important piece for Bayern especially for the current transfer climate though.
If Lewandoski choose to move out lets said next year due to falling out with management, u guys are going to be in trouble in looking for replacement which is on the same quality as him there.(And it especially won't be cheap and we know how Bayern hate wasting huge tons of muney just like Juventus was.)
Audioboxer
Member
Roy Hodgson is not a good manager. Then again, Frank didn't get off to a flying start. I'd have given him till around 8 games.
McMoneyman
Member
So has the joke about Benteke taking corners been made yet?
And to think that he was once a favorite to take over Tottenham after Tim Sherwood. I don't think he's a bad coach but the international experience so far has been really bad.
bonesmccoy
Banned
That's 2 70-80 day stints for de Boer now, right?
Beginning to think there is more to it than just poor results on the pitch.
Beginning to think there is more to it than just poor results on the pitch.
I would argue he's been playing well until the part where has to shoot. If he tried to do anything besides curling the ball with his left foot, he could easily have 5 goals already this season and I'm sure everyone would be saying he was the signing of the summer.
On the offensive side he has been really good with quick counters and good movement to allow the through pass behind the defense. The shooting part on the other hand...
Didn't the players at Inter hated him?
Calm before the storm.
CecilRousso
Member
Are you going to hire Mourinho to replace Ancelotti this summer?
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
I mean he can't leave unless Bayern lets him, he's on a long contract. Bayern doesn't sell unless they want to.
Anyways, I feel a bit of tension is necessary right now, FO has their heads under the sand at times. Can't all have it smooth sailings. Effenberg's piece on Lewy was hilarious though, typical Effe. Wish we had him right now :'( The team needs a push to get through to the finals again.
His Majesty
Banned
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Yes, Joey Barton even said it on Twitter
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Hoeness just called Dieter Hecking.
CecilRousso
Member
But yeah, let's give him 10 more matches so it looks better!
The Joel Ward handling is one really weird one. De Boer gave him next to no playing time in the pre season matches, neither as RCB or RWB, and then for the first league game, he was suddenly thrown in the starting eleven as RWB (which Ward has never played previously at Palace) instead of Townsend who had played there for all preseason matches, without Townsend being injured, and Ward had a horrible match as a result. And he was not better against Liverpool the next match.
The Joel Ward handling is one really weird one. De Boer gave him next to no playing time in the pre season matches, neither as RCB or RWB, and then for the first league game, he was suddenly thrown in the starting eleven as RWB (which Ward has never played previously at Palace) instead of Townsend who had played there for all preseason matches, without Townsend being injured, and Ward had a horrible match as a result. And he was not better against Liverpool the next match.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
I will use Suarez carrying Brendan as an excuse til the day I die.
Win us a trophy Klopp before these stats start being more nefarious ;_;
Klopp can't leave us before he gives his beloved Naby a hug.
Gulp. And i heard rumour that Ancelotti is moving out this January. Is that rumour true? If that happen, won't u guys get screwed there? As u guys will need to look for new manager in January.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
CecilRousso
Member
And the critique agains the hiring of him is a valid one, while the sacking was neccesary.
That said, still support Parish. He's the constant factor at the club, when managers like Freedman, Holloway, Pulis and Allardyce leave by their own decision, and it's during his ownership that we have gone from near extinction at the bottom of The Championship, to five straight seasons in PL.
I agree. I don't like how he was only given 4 games, but the guy shouldn't have had 4 games in the first place, but man you don't want to get Roy.
I like how Simon Jordon slags off Parish...
Some Rumours is saying that Juventus is going to start Sturaro as winger against Barcelona............when Juventus had a 40 million winger they just bought this transfer market.....and Sturaro is Defensive Midfielder..........Kill me.
Lolol.O_O U guys need a new top management to douse all the breakdown lol.
bassler needs to lay off the drugs
Lolol.O_O U guys need a new top management to douse all the breakdown lol.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Honestly, the club is more at fault. Why appoint him?
Again: you hire an Ajax-bred coach, then you give him a Sam Allardyce squad and ask for good football, then sack him after four games?
Cus they fucked up and had to change the fuck up. I don't know why they appointed him, I watched Ajax and Inter under him and both were shit.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
he won the title three years in a row at Ajax though
PowderedToast
Junior Member
remember when de boer linked himself with liverpool
Only because PSV were shit, Ajax fans hated his brand of football. He basically only won the league as the other teams were worse. Seriously the football was really fucking bad.