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Football Thread 2017/18 |OT2| Fractured but Ox

MoodyFog

Member
So, this game is fully representative of PSG overall playing? They put all the faith in having Neymar, Cavani & Mbappé inspired otherwise they are fucked?

PSG is around top 6 or top 8 teams
Enough to dominate Ligue 1 and most middle teams in the Champions League., but if we play Real, Barca, or even United and Atletico we may get killed
I expected more of Bayern tho
 

Audioboxer

Member
If Martial can stop being huffy at times him and Rashford on the park together should be insane. Although, clashing positions I guess.

His dribbling is better than Rashfords, as is his finishing.

Lolkaku keeps getting easy goals. #Thestatsarealie
 

RocknRola

Member
Tomorrow.
Tuchel is on his way.

Different teams and players but I don't feel he did particularly great job at Dortmund either. Granted, purely in terms of squad Bayern is a loooot more stacked and thus he can likely achieve better results (at least in theory).
 
PSG is around top 6 or top 8 teams
Enough to dominate Ligue 1 and most middle teams in the Champions League., but if we play Real, Barca, or even United and Atletico we may get killed
I expected more of Bayern tho

Thanks for the answer.

After all the praise and media comments, I was beginning to believe PSG was going to be the new Barca, but it's pretty clear they're several steps lower than that level.

And yep, Bayern is a shadow of what used to be.
 

Garjon

Member
Bayern are an excellent side and they are creating chances but they need to be ruthless in the second half because PSG have at least another in them with their ridiculous countering ability alone.
 

MoodyFog

Member
Thanks for the answer.

After all the praise and media comments, I was beginning to believe PSG was going to be the new Barca, but it's pretty clear they're several steps lower than that level.

And yep, Bayern is a shadow of what used to be.

We bargained everything not to miss on Neymar and Mbappe which I get, but what the team really needs is: a world class defensive mid, a good centerback and a world class keeper
Then we’ll be proper contenders
 

Jack cw

Member
Different teams and players but I don't feel he did particularly great job at Dortmund either. Granted, purely in terms of squad Bayern is a loooot more stacked and thus he can likely achieve better results (at least in theory).

Bayern won't sack Carlo though.
We need a couple of more defeats until Hoeness and Rummenigge accept the fact that Carlo worsened the squad to Klinsmann/Gaal levels of bad.
 

DBT85

Member
If Martial can stop being huffy at times him and Rashford on the park together should be insane. Although, clashing positions I guess.

His dribbling is better than Rashfords, as is his finishing.

Lolkaku keeps getting easy goals. #Thestatsarealie

Yeah, he's better on the ball than rash, but Rashford generally puts in more of a shift when played on that left hand side.

Both have scored a nice few goals though so hopefully confidence is huge and it continues.

Not seen the game as my little one has been hitching a fit just caught the goals. Just lol.

Is that 9 goals in 8 games for Lolkaku now?
 
Bayern won't sack Carlo though.
We need a couple of more defeats until Hoeness and Rummenigge accept the fact that Carlo worsened the squad to Klinsmann/Gaal levels of bad.

that's a ridiculous hyperbole lol.. Saying that, the team looks worse so far. That much is obvious. Biggest issue is toothless, and missing a winger. Dude is inputing Milan's slow ass style into Bayern and keeping the only two fast wingers on the bench. But more midfielders doe lol
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
I think you're underestimating both PSG and Bayern in this game.

PSG scored very early so they didn't need to attack pass that point. They can sit back and go on counter where the forward trio can be deadly, as shown at Cavani's goal.

Bayern was forced to attack (although they had a team set up for counter) and manage to create a lot of opportunities wasted by Muller and Lewandowski.

The left side of Bayern's defence seems particularly weak.
 

spidye

Member
TOlisso is pretty bad
James is non existent
Müller losing every ball possible
Lewa is a diva in name but no way world class

Considering rummenigge saying to kroos you are not world class and selling him for 35m but buying sanches and tolisso for 80m really shows where our problem is.
Rummenigge never should have had this much power in first place
 

Audioboxer

Member
Yeah, he's better on the ball than rash, but Rashford generally puts in more of a shift when played on that left hand side.

Both have scored a nice few goals though so hopefully confidence is huge and it continues.

Not seen the game as my little one has been hitching a fit just caught the goals. Just lol.

Is that 9 goals in 8 games for Lolkaku now?

I could see Martial being a Giggs (number 11). His crossing is pretty decent. I'm still convinced Rashford is a striker through and through. His last man movement is brilliant. That's where he makes up against Martial's dribbling, Rashfords runs are top notch.

I think Lolkaku is into double figures with appearances when international is counted.
 
We bargained everything not to miss on Neymar and Mbappe which I get, but what the team really needs is: a world class defensive mid, a good centerback and a world class keeper
Then we’ll be proper contenders

In this game , bayern , just closed the middle field , so psg can't play like it is used to.
Ancelloti certainly made that tactic because he knows psg well .
 

Jack cw

Member
that's a ridiculous hyperbole lol.. Saying that, the team looks worse so far. That much is obvious. Biggest issue is toothless, and missing a winger. Dude is inputing Milan's slow ass style into Bayern and keeping the only two fast wingers on the bench. But more midfielders doe lol

Pls.
Pep just delayed what was obvious since 2015. Now that we play with no system but individual class we witness the downfall. Being toothless and totally unorganized in defence when Thiago and Tolisso not holding position and forget to mark Cavani is clearly bad coaching. The system is not there. It looks alright in possession but once PSG gets the ball in midfield our slow ass defenders play 1vs1 against Neymar, Cavani and Mbappe, when both DLPs should help but cant, because they don't hold their position. This is what happened exactly the same way against Barca in 2008.
 
TOlisso is pretty bad
James is non existent
Müller losing every ball possible
Lewa is a diva in name but no way world class

Considering rummenigge saying to kroos you are not world class and selling him for 35m but buying sanches and tolisso for 80m really shows where our problem is.
Rummenigge never should have had this much power in first place

and this is a dumbass comment. Lewy has like a 70% conversion per game overall w Bayern and 77% in CL for them. Only Messi and Ronaldo have a better conversation rate since they're basically 1:1

Pls.
Pep just delayed what was obvious since 2015. Now that we play with no system but individual class we witness the downfall. Being toothless and totally unorganized in defence when Thiago and Tolisso not holding position and forget to mark Cavani is clearly bad coaching. The system is not there. It looks alright in possession but once PSG gets the ball in midfield our slow ass defenders play 1vs1 against Neymar, Cavani and Mbappe. This is what happened exactly the same way against Barca in 2008.
Ehh I agree with the system thing. But Klinsi era especially is a comical comparison, and van gaal bayern was even worse.. remember than van buyten was a normal starter for the team.

This team needs pace. You start 1 of Coman or Robben every game, if not both. Just a awfullineup.
 

RocknRola

Member
Bayern won't sack Carlo though.
We need a couple of more defeats until Hoeness and Rummenigge accept the fact that Carlo worsened the squad to Klinsmann/Gaal levels of bad.

Always a shame when the people in charge are too stubborn to avoid possibly "burning" a season per say (not that a defeat today KO's Bayern in CL though).
 

weekev

Banned
This BT champions league goals show is a half decent way to get over the anxiety of picking a game and worrying you're missing all the action.
Yeah one of my favourite things to do when I'm not supporting a team playing. It's like Soccer Saturday but actually with the football.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
and this is a dumbass comment. Lewy has like a 70% conversion per game overall w Bayern and 77% in CL for them. Only Messi and Ronaldo have a better conversation rate since they're basically 1:1

That percentage doesn't cover the huge number of balls he loses because he's too egoistic to pass in a counter. Before even becoming a chance.
 

RocknRola

Member
Okay this got a chuckle from me lol

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Bayern Munich trying to finish 3rd in their group so they can knock Arsenal out of the Europa League 😂😂
 
That percentage doesn't cover the huge number of balls he loses because he's too egoistic to pass in a counter. Before even becoming a chance.

Like every other striker ever. He's one of the most technical strikers in the world, although yes he is very selfish :S Saying he's not world class is beyond idiotic though and completely false. I get people are angry but damn.
 
I was expecting this United game to be a tight 1-0 win or a 1-1/0-0 draw, aka a pretty boring affair, i’m glad to be proven wrong.

CSKA may have put in the worst performance I can recall in the Champions League from a non minnow side.
 
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