former DEA agent gets owned by former narcotics officer regarding the sweet cheebah

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One of her arguments was that pot makes you make bad judgments such as getting into a car with someone who shouldn't be driving.

Now if that's not something that shouldn't be illegal I don't know what is!
 
maynerd said:
One of her arguments was that pot makes you make bad judgments such as getting into a car with someone who shouldn't be driving.

Now if that's not something that shouldn't be illegal I don't know what is!

I can't believe he didn't scream alcohol right then and there.
 
Seriously, it's time to legalize. Every time people bring up the harmful effects of marijuana as the reasons for it being illegal you can just mention alcohol for almost every point.
 
Osorio said:
Seriously, it's time to legalize. Every time people bring up the harmful effects of marijuana as the reasons for it being illegal you can just mention alcohol for almost every point.

Bingo.
 
alex chilton said:
Seriously, is there any actual legitimate reasons for keeping it illegal?

"It keeps the white women from having sex with them negros! Hur!"
 
Osorio said:
Seriously, it's time to legalize. Every time people bring up the harmful effects of marijuana as the reasons for it being illegal you can just mention alcohol for almost every point.

Alcohol is a far, far worse drug than mary jane to boot...
 
RiskyChris said:
Alcohol is a far, far worse drug than mary jane to boot...
Definitely. What's sad is that many drinkers laugh at me when I tell them alcohol is a drug. A drug that's more harmful for your body than marijuana. The government has brain washed so many people into thinking legal = safe and illegal = harmful.
 
I like how they are disgusted that he's showing people how to do that, but they show clips of where and how to hide it on the show throughout the segment...
 
alex chilton said:
Seriously, is there any actual legitimate reasons for keeping it illegal?
Yes, the government doesn't want to make themselves look like dipshits. They would never want to admit they're wrong.
 
Oh man, when she says that pot makes kids drink so they pass out and puke and then choke on their puke I lost it.

Speeding 100mph in a 45, what the fuck is she talking about, god damn.

Edit: Also, you can tell she didn't prepare for this AT ALL, because every time she gets an opportunity to talk, she says "first off, pot is not a safe drug" or "this shows that pot is safe, and it's not a safe drug." Also, go Fox News, you did it again.
 
Well that was interesting:

Man: Here's my argument and a shitload of statistics and historical facts to support it.
Woman: Well pot makes you stupid and I know because I'm a former DEA agent lol credibility
Fox Host: DUHRRHR, YOU SMOKE POT DURRHHRR INHALE LOLOLOLOLOL
 
Justin Bailey said:
Well that was interesting:

Man: Here's my argument and a shitload of statistics and historical facts to support it.
Woman: Well pot makes you stupid and I know because I'm a former DEA agent lol credibility
Fox Host: DUHRRHR, YOU SMOKE POT DURRHHRR INHALE LOLOLOLOLOL
sadly that's exactly how it went. :lol
 
Justin Bailey said:
Well that was interesting:

Man: Here's my argument and a shitload of statistics and historical facts to support it.
Woman: Well pot makes you stupid and I know because I'm a former DEA agent lol credibility
Fox Host: DUHRRHR, YOU SMOKE POT DURRHHRR INHALE LOLOLOLOLOL

:lol :lol :lol
 
Vai said:
Look at how bad his reaction time is, that's proof enough for me that its bad.

That had to do with him not being in the studio. Having delays from the satellite feed for the audio and not being able to see who he was talking to at all. Interviews are always like that. The people are not in the room, they are facing a bright light and can't see who they are talking with. That is why everything turns into shouting matches with those types of shows.
 
Marijuana/alcohol all this shit needs to be banned. But if anyone asked me which I thought was worse I'd definitely say alcohol...

It blows my mind how dangerous alcohol is yet it's completely legal everywhere.
 
Forceatowulf said:
Marijuana/alcohol all this shit needs to be banned. But if anyone asked me which I thought was worse I'd definitely say alcohol...

It blows my mind how dangerous alcohol is yet it's completely legal everywhere.
I suppose you don't whack it either.

If I couldn't drink a cocktail every now and then to loosen up I'd probably blow my brains out. Weed is much the same way. I don't smoke it much anymore because I get pretty introverted, but I did smoke it pretty regularly for three years of my time in college and my IQ and memory are as good as they ever were. It's the same with booze. Sure, there are some people who can't control themselves, but you can find examples of that everywhere. Hell, look at the people who play WoW for 12 hours a day. Anything can become a vice if it isn't kept in moderation.
 
There's not one exception in the whole world, not one, where a drug addiction didn't start with weed. True story, I heard it on fox news.
 
The host of the show wasn't biased at all, yep, not one bit.


Vai said:
Look at how bad his reaction time is, that's proof enough for me that its bad.
I think you've had too much to drink sir.
 
ColdDeckEd said:
There's not one exception in the whole world, not one, where a drug addiction didn't start with weed. True story, I heard it on fox news.
Did you know that hard drug use among the Rastafarians is almost nonexistent?
 
Why throwing thousands of people in jail (basically forcing them to become a criminal to survive) every year for smoking a relatively benign drug is beyond reason.

Any arguments to the contrary are so filled with logical fallacies it makes me wonder how people believe this shit.
 
Osorio said:
Yes, the government doesn't want to make themselves look like dipshits. They would never want to admit they're wrong.

They backed down on alcohol being illegal, they can do it with marijuana.

Forceatowulf said:
Marijuana/alcohol all this shit needs to be banned. But if anyone asked me which I thought was worse I'd definitely say alcohol...

It blows my mind how dangerous alcohol is yet it's completely legal everywhere.

Cigarettes are even worse and those are legal. To take a line from Chris Rock, cigarettes are so bad they kill people that don't even smoke.
 
Dali said:
Cigarettes are even worse and those are legal. To take a line from Chris Rock, cigarettes are so bad they kill people that don't even smoke.
Hey, if it were up to me I'd flush it all down the toilet. Marijuana/alcohol/cigarettes the whole shabang. But we know it's never going to go down like that. I just wish people would get a fucking grip on their addictions. But we know thats also never going to happen...
 
How much drug talk is legal at this forum? I have plenty of opinions on this matter, but I don't want to get banned or get the thread locked. So if a mod reads this and I've crossed the line, please delete my post.

Marijuana, like alcohol, like painkillers, like antidepressants, like adderall and other prescription stimulants, can have huge negative effects on a person's life if their use of it gets out of hand. I have known people who have reached this point. One of my best friends in college once got the point where she smoked about ten bowls a day. She had no motivation to do anything. She and her boyfriend were content to keep their minimum wage jobs and just smoke all day every day. Trying to have conversations with her was weird. She had all sorts of crazy ideas that weren't grounded in reality, and her goals and desires were completely unlike those of most normal people. Since she was never not stoned, she never got any moments of sober perspective, and it clearly affected her thought processes in a negative way.

However, in moderation, marijuana is just fine. It can enhance your creativity, and it can increase your enjoyment of certain movies and music. For example, listening to a song like Pink Floyd's "Comfortably Numb" or The Who's "Baba O'Reilly" after smoking can be pure bliss. Thoughts and ideas occur to you that wouldn't normally occur to you in a sober state, and quite often these ideas have merit even when returned to in a sober state. The inspiration for some of my best short stories has come while under the influence.

Unlike cocaine, heroins, methamphetamines, alcohol, nicotine and many other substances, marijuana is rarely physically addicting. People who are "addicted" to marijuana are addicted from a psychological perspective, but they would have no physical withdrawal symptoms or "need" for the drug. I used to smoke cigarettes, and that is a physical addiction. You feel a very real physical craving for nicotine if you are addicted to it, and marijuana is not the same at all.

As for the gateway drug argument, I think alcohol is much more of a gateway drug than marijuana. Most of the cocaine users I know do it while they are drinking. I've never seen anyone start using cocaine after smoking herb. There are certain drugs that are a logical transition from marijuana, however. These are ecstasy, shrooms and LSD. These drugs are mainly taken in a club/rave setting. However, they are rarely abused, and people who take these drugs don't do it because they smoke pot; they do it because they were already open to using heavy mind-altering substances to begin with. People who use these "rave drugs" don't start using them because marijuana piqued their interest in heavier substances. That interest was already there to begin with.

That's basically my stance on the issue. I feel that marijuana should be decriminalized. People who smoke it aren't the ones who go roaring down the highway at 90 mph or go around looking for intoxicated women to prey on. Pot-smokers, in my experience (which is considerable) just want to hang out and listen to music or watch movies, and are generally completely harmless.
 
Forceatowulf said:
Hey, if it were up to me I'd flush it all down the toilet. Marijuana/alcohol/cigarettes the whole shabang. But we know it's never going to go down like that. I just wish people would get a fucking grip on their addictions. But we know thats also never going to happen...

Why stop with marijuana, alcohol, and cigarettes? Maybe we should outlaw butter as well, because it is just as dangerous. People just can't be trusted to moderate their butter intake on their own. I mean, its just better when the government tells me what I can and can't do in regards to my own body.

See where I'm going with this? You said it yourself, people need to get a grip on their addictions. There's no point in getting rid of that stuff, those looking to get high/buzzed/wasted would just move on to something else.
 
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