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[Stoney Mason]

Frank Miller has never been the sharpest knife in the drawer. You basically read his comics, be glad they rock, and roll your eyes whenever he talks.

/end of thread

 

[Kastrioti]

Sounds like a fabulous idea!

Cause, you know, those anti-Japan propaganda comics have aged really, really well.

That was complete an utter racism though. What Frank Miller is saying is not racism, its the facts. Radical Islam is getting more widespread in Islam every single day and thankfully there are people like Frank Miller who recognize this growing, and dangerous threat.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I don't see how you can call someone as successful as Frank Miller an idiot. His opinions may be misguided but after watching Sin City and 300(and falling in love with both films) there is absolutely no way you can call him an idiot.

im sorry, but anyone who honestly believes that Iraq declared war on america is...well...an idiot. Even supporters of the war called it pre-emptive.

 

[White Man]

That was complete an utter racism though. What Frank Miller is saying is not racism, its the facts. Radical Islam is getting more widespread in Islam every single day and thankfully there are people like Frank Miller who recognize this growing, and dangerous threat.

The comic is about Al Qaeda attacking Gotham City, not something as nuanced as the growth of radical islam in the islamic world.

 

[140.85]

I'm ready for my 'religious verdict'?

It just goes to show that he doesn't know much about the subject that he plans to write about, and the danger is that if he wants to make it a propaganda piece, it will drift into the realm of bigotry and perhaps incitement to hate.

For a guy who thinks that Iraq started the recent war...I wouldn't be surprised if that was the end result.

Oh please, stop being disingenuous for 5 seconds. You know exactly what he's referring to.

 

[Stoney Mason]

im sorry, but anyone who honestly believes that Iraq declared war on america is...well...an idiot. Even supporters of the war called it pre-emptive.

Their is no sense in arguing with him. In that way lies madness.

 

[Aisenherz]

It's clear he's living in his own fantasy world.

Well, maybe all of you do!

Damn, Frank Miller is awesome.
You have a new fan, Frank!

 

[probune]

Their is no sense in arguing with him. In that way lies madness.

Oh god no

Why did you have to say madness in a Frank Miller thread

 

[Mandark]

Hey, you know who's substantially crazier than Miller? Louis Rossetto, the founder of Wired magazine (weird, huh).

1. Did you support the invasion of Iraq?

Yes, both the one that didn’t happen in 1991 and the one that did in 2003. But Iraq is not the war, it is a battle. The war is The Long War against Islamic fascism.

2. Have you changed your position?

If anything, I believe even more strongly in actively combating Islamic fascism throughout the Global Village. Everyday is Groundhog Day for the anti-war movement, which is stuck re-protesting Vietnam — while we are confronted by a uniquely 21st century challenge: a networked fascist movement of super-empowered individuals trying to undo 50K years of social evolution. Waiting to get hit by an NBC weapon is not an option. Dhimmitude for me or my children is not peace. Righteous forward defense is a necessity.

3. What should the U.S. do in Iraq now?

The US should persevere militarily until we defeat the fascists in Iraq, as we did in Afghanistan, as we must everywhere. The US’s biggest failure has not been on the battlefield — where we are relentlessly reducing our enemies — but in waging media war against the Islamists and their fellow travelers on the Left, and in rallying the American people, who are confused, and perhaps angered, that once again we are being called upon to save the world.

That's some high-end crazy right there.

 

[140.85]

Considering the GAF political compass chart it's not surprising most people here would consider these thoughts the ravings of a madman. But any adult in full control of their mental faculties with a full knowledge of the facts on record about Al-Qaeda and Saddam can see he's far from insane.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

no ****ing wonder all star batman isn't done. dumb prick is wasting time on shit like this. never fuciking liked his hacky work anway....

 

[Ripclawe]

What translation should I use besides the actual, literal translation? Some made up definition?

Do you have any evidence that would support your assertion that he knows what he's talking about?

Miller is correctly using the term the same as it was for Rushdie and many others in recent times covering a wide spectrum of behaviors. This is how the term is understood today.

Pakistan minister rejects fatwa
NDTV.com, India - Apr 21, 2007
Pakistan's Tourism Minister Nilofer Bakhtiar says the fatwa against her for her alleged hug during a chairty event in France does not merit any attention

Malaysia issues fatwa on ghosts

Malaysia fatwa against Internet trading

4000 children not vaccinated after cleric’s fatwa: Report
Peninsula On-line, Qatar - Apr 27, 2007
PESHAWAR • Following the fatwa (edict) of rebellious cleric Maulana Fazal Ullah, the parents of more than 4000 children have refused to provide polio

 

[140.85]

Hey, you know who's substantially crazier than Miller? Louis Rossetto, the founder of Wired magazine (weird, huh).




That's some high-end crazy right there.

Case in point :lol

 

[140.85]

Miller is correctly using the term the same as it was for Rushdie and many others in recent times covering a wide spectrum of behaviors. This is how the term is understood today.

Pakistan minister rejects fatwa
NDTV.com, India - Apr 21, 2007
Pakistan's Tourism Minister Nilofer Bakhtiar says the fatwa against her for her alleged hug during a chairty event in France does not merit any attention

Malaysia issues fatwa on ghosts

Malaysia fatwa against Internet trading

4000 children not vaccinated after cleric’s fatwa: Report
Peninsula On-line, Qatar - Apr 27, 2007
PESHAWAR • Following the fatwa (edict) of rebellious cleric Maulana Fazal Ullah, the parents of more than 4000 children have refused to provide polio

You're a madman!

 

[Mandark]

50k years of social evolution!

They want to un-domesticate farm animals!

 

[The Stealth Fox]

50k years of social evolution!

They want to un-domesticate farm animals!

:lol :lol

 

[FightyF]

Oh please, stop being disingenuous for 5 seconds. You know exactly what he's referring to.

I do. But what's wrong in pointing out that he sounded uneducated and misinformed?

Miller is correctly using the term the same as it was for Rushdie and many others in recent times covering a wide spectrum of behaviors. This is how the term is understood today.

Pakistan minister rejects fatwa
NDTV.com, India - Apr 21, 2007
Pakistan's Tourism Minister Nilofer Bakhtiar says the fatwa against her for her alleged hug during a chairty event in France does not merit any attention

Malaysia issues fatwa on ghosts

Malaysia fatwa against Internet trading

4000 children not vaccinated after cleric’s fatwa: Report
Peninsula On-line, Qatar - Apr 27, 2007
PESHAWAR • Following the fatwa (edict) of rebellious cleric Maulana Fazal Ullah, the parents of more than 4000 children have refused to provide polio

He said "my fatwa" as in HIS religious verdict. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it?

Your post just proved that my translation is correct. And just drives my point home. Thanks!

 

[White Man]

I do. But what's wrong in pointing out that he sounded uneducated and misinformed?



He said "my fatwa" as in HIS religious verdict. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it?

Your post just proved that my translation is correct. And just drives my point home. Thanks!

I believe his quote was a play on "I'm ready for my close-up."

 

[krypt0nian]

50k years of social evolution!

They want to un-domesticate farm animals!

"Think of the cows!"

 

[Stoney Mason]

Considering the GAF political compass chart it's not surprising most people here would consider these thoughts the ravings of a madman. But any adult in full control of their mental faculties with a full knowledge of the facts on record about Al-Qaeda and Saddam can see he's far from insane.

 

[The Stealth Fox]

I do. But what's wrong in pointing out that he sounded uneducated and misinformed?



He said "my fatwa" as in HIS religious verdict. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it?

Your post just proved that my translation is correct. And just drives my point home. Thanks!

I think he is just expecting that he is the subject of a particular religious verdict. I think you're being a tad too technical here.

Either way, he's just trying to provoke a response. Nothing to really worry about. I doubt a comic book writer will have effects on foreign policy and so on. If people want to defend him, fine, but hidng behind remarks "oh that's just liberal gaf for ya" is just circumventing discussion of the issues altogether, because it's certainly not JUST liberals that think he's a nutjob.

 

[The Stealth Fox]

http://www.natural-health-information-centre.com/image-files/head-in-sand.jpg

Please ensure me that no one was harmed in the making of that JPG.

 

[Mandark]

I believe his quote was a play on "I'm ready for my close-up."

"I'm ready for my fatwa, Mr. De Mille."

Now I'm going to have a dream about Gloria Swanson in a burka, with myself as William Holden. Thanks a lot, White Man.


Re: Fatwas. Saying "my fatwa" to mean "a fatwa regarding me or my actions" is a perfectly acceptable use of the possessive form. My trial, my verdict, my sentence, etc. The fact that it's hypothetical at this point doesn't really change that.



PS 50k years of social progress! Suck it, codified laws, written communication, cave art, and currency! Your days are numbered!

I think irrigation makes the cut, though. I'm glad, cause I just don't have the energy for hunting and gathering.

 

[CurseoftheGods]

he knows Muslims are stupid enough to react to his comic, whatever it might have in it, and once they do miller can go around claiming "see i was right these muslims are barbarians!".

Over-generalizations ftw.

 

[JayDubya]

"I'm ready for my fatwa, Mr. De Mille."

Now I'm going to have a dream about Gloria Swanson in a burka, with myself as William Holden. Thanks a lot, White Man.

What a shitty dream. You'll be dead, floating in a pool, somehow reminiscing about having a Muslim sugar mama.

 

[140.85]

Please ensure me that no one was harmed in the making of that JPG.

My thoughts exactly. :lol

 

[CurseoftheGods]

You're just citing the literal translation with no context just to make him look clueless. It's pretty clear he knows what he's talking about, though. Pretty arrogant to think Islamic leaders will give a shit about his stupid Batman comic though.

I speak Arabic fluently, and I think "religious verdict" too when I hear fatwa. If you're going to tell an Arab "I am ready for my fatwa" they'd probably laugh in your face.

It's a shame that Frank Miller is such a moron, I love his work.

 

[AniHawk]

I've destroyed RevenantKioku. My mission is done.

 

[RevenantKioku]

...
*bangs head on desk*

 

[Mandark]

Is a fatwa more of an edict than a verdict? A verdict would imply that the matter was submitted to a court, which doesn't seem to be a necessary component of a fatwa.

Also, I've been neglectful in not ragging on the phrase "super-empowered individuals." If I had any photoshop skills whatsoever, you'd all be looking at Dhimbert.jpg right now.

 

[Flynn]

Frank Miller wishes he could draw like Rob Liefeld.

Who in God's name would want to draw like this?

 

[effzee]

Over-generalizations ftw.

listen i come across these stories often. some irrelevant figure says something to purposely incite the very same Muslim crazies they critisize just so it supports their pov more so. somehow these pointless ppl and their claims end up being heard.

 

[VALIS]

Miller was getting shit 20 years ago for The Dark Knight being fascist and totalitarian. His political outlook is old news.

 

[Spastic Colon]

I'm ready for my fatwa Mr. DeMille

 

[CurseoftheGods]

Who in God's name would want to draw like this?

:lol :lol :lol

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

This quote is just awesome and true on every level.

Anyone who's seen his asstrocious drawing of The Spirit he sent around while shopping the movie around to studios knows it is a horrific and misguided falsehood. KEEP HIM THE **** AWAY.

AUUUGGGGHH ****ING NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

I understand he has a great reverence and respect for Eisner's work, but he is just not the right guy to make a ****ing Spirit movie. I don't know who the hell is. Terry Gilliam maybe?

Miller is good at making movies of Miller comics. Eisner was on a whole other level.

 

[Dan]

^ I think we all know Brad Bird is the one and only person who should be directing The Spirit.

 

[Beer Monkey]

I just threw up.

I'm sure Miller thinks he should do A Contract With God and The Building to boot.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

^ I think we all know Brad Bird is the one and only person who should be directing The Spirit.

That's exactly right.

 

[Kapsama]

Considering the GAF political compass chart it's not surprising most people here would consider these thoughts the ravings of a madman. But any adult in full control of their mental faculties with a full knowledge of the facts on record about Al-Qaeda and Saddam can see he's far from insane.

And what facts are those?:lol

btw. Frank Miller seems to be a complete and utter buffoon, but as a rap fan I've learned to divorce an artist's work from his social commentary and political views.

 

[Stoney Mason]

And what facts are those?:lol

 

[zabuni]

 

[Remedy]

But Osama bin laden is a CIA operative, his family also has shares in Haliburton. Mainstream media will never tell you this.

I think until there is a massive intellectual revolution, the public will always believe that the little we know is always enough to provide a conclusion.

 

[Battersea Power Station]

Holy shit, zabuni. Where is that from? That's awesome.

Frank Miller sounds like he's right up there with Orson Scott Card: great art, retarded political (sort of) views

 

[J2 Cool]

Anyone who's seen his asstrocious drawing of The Spirit he sent around while shopping the movie around to studios knows it is a horrific and misguided falsehood. KEEP HIM THE **** AWAY.

AUUUGGGGHH ****ING NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

I understand he has a great reverence and respect for Eisner's work, but he is just not the right guy to make a ****ing Spirit movie. I don't know who the hell is. Terry Gilliam maybe?

Miller is good at making movies of Miller comics. Eisner was on a whole other level.

Holy crap, I thought that poster was a joke. He seriously drew that? The only good reason I can imagine why he did would be for easier persuasion of the executives maybe. I'd be very scared to see Miller's adaption of this.

^ I think we all know Brad Bird is the one and only person who should be directing The Spirit.

It'd of been awesome. Unfortunately though he says he feels The Spirit is just a too far a part of his past now. He really tried to get it made but nobody was up for it.

:lol

 

[Flynn]

Considering the GAF political compass chart it's not surprising most people here would consider these thoughts the ravings of a madman. But any adult in full control of their mental faculties with a full knowledge of the facts on record about Al-Qaeda and Saddam can see he's far from insane.

Holy crap! Al-Qaeda and Saddam want our Hostess fruit pies?

 

[Callo Merlose]

:lol That's an awesome comic, zabuni. Also, people are stupid and clearly don't know Frank Miller. Glib shits. I'm looking at you, White Man!

 

[nomoment]

Considering how close Eisner and Miller were, I'd still trust Miller over most to do a Spirit movie.

However, Miller has clearly lost his passion for the game. When it comes to his canon, I pretend that anything after 1998 doesn't exist.

 

[The Interrobanger]

Who in God's name would want to draw like this?

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[Gattsu25]

Who in God's name would want to draw like this?

lol