Freedom To Buy Games (Good Old Games fights back censorship)

Doesnt matter. If a business no longer wants to do business with you that is their right.
Yes it matters, when Visa and Mastercard own 70% of the world online transactions, not giving any viable altenative options for stores to survive without them, it matters because they have a duopoly and completly controll the market. You dont want these companies that they only job should be moving your money from the bank to a store, to start dictating where you can spend your money on if its legal.
 
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I get the impression GoG are doing this for good boy points because it's a hot button issue on the internet right now. None of the games featured appear to really be that controversial and aren't exactly going to elicit a very negative response in most people.

Let's ask GoG to put some really controversial stuff up on GoG. Stuff that crosses a line for a great many people. Games like Rapelay, No Mercy, Manhunt 2, or allow UK gamers to purchase Fursan al-Aqsa, or hell, even bring back Devotion (which they pathetically caved into pressure to remove from the store in 2020).

I bet they do absolutely none of that - because all of this is just performative.
 
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Is there a thread where people list the games they've lost access to over the years? I'm curious how rampant it actually is. I can't think of any that I've lost. I'm talking between stuff like that and always-online servers going down.
 
This specific aspect of the discussion is so fascinating to me.

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Yes it matters, when Visa and Mastercard own 70% of the world online transactions, not giving any viable altenative options for stores to survive without them, it matters because they have a duopoly and completly controll the market. You dont want these companies that they only job should be moving your money from the bank to a store, to start dictating where you can spend your money on if its legal.
So what if they do? Steam is a multi billion dollar business. If gabe really cared about censorship he could set up another payment processor for these games and sell them to people who want it. But he's not doing that, is he? Thats because its not good for his business. Visa and MC dont think these games are good for their business either. That is not censorship.
 
So what if they do? Steam is a multi billion dollar business. If gabe really cared about censorship he could set up another payment processor for these games and sell them to people who want it. But he's not doing that, is he? Thats because its not good for his business. Visa and MC dont think these games are good for their business either. That is not censorship.
You think processing payments is easy? Right now unless you are Elon Musk, no one new has the resources to JUST set up a new payment. The legal minefield meant most can't do that.

And Valve only has 300+ employees. You are crazy to ask them to run a bank.
 
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You think processing payments is easy? Right now unless you are Elon Musk, no one new has the resources to JUST set up a new payment. The legal minefield meant most can't do that.

And Valve only has 300+ employees. You are crazy to ask them to run a bank.
I've bought stuff in the past from shops online that used payment processors that arent Visa or MC. If these random shops can do it, so can Valve which has an estimated value between $8 - 10B.
 
I've bought stuff in the past from shops online that used payment processors that arent Visa or MC. If these random shops can do it, so can Valve which has an estimated value between $8 - 10B.
Most of them are gone. In the US they all get absorbed by the big 2 plus Paypal. The only reason Japan told them to get lost is because they have existing systems to pay cash for online services. The alternatives not existing is the entire point. If the alternatives were available we wouldn't have anything to complain about.

Basically you are just saying "let them eat cake". If there is another way to pay then there would have been no censorship.
 
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I thought you were able to pick which ones you wanted. I just wanted Agony since I've been reading God's Demon and I thought it might be like that. I had to send them a request to remove the other games. Meanwhile,
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That selection of games is absolutely memetic

I wonder how the credit card companies will censor the world if you can just give things for free and bypass payments entirely???
I don't think these games were even removed from Steam.

So they are very brave giving away games for free that weren't actually censored by credit card companies.
 
I don't think these games were even removed from Steam.

So they are very brave giving away games for free that weren't actually censored by credit card companies.
Its about sending a message and making a stance against the power payment processors are using to censor what content ppl can purchase.
 
Ok fine, I'll add porn games to my library, but only because freedom of expression and commerce is a good cause.
 
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Not YET.

Since the censorship has no guideline and not based on law, there is nothing that can't be censored.
Its about sending a message and making a stance against the power payment processors are using to censor what content ppl can purchase.
Just saying, it would be a much stronger message to give away the games that were actually removed.

Give away "Incest Daughters" or "Daddy Twins Incest BDSM" for instance.
 
Most of them are gone. In the US they all get absorbed by the big 2 plus Paypal. The only reason Japan told them to get lost is because they have existing systems to pay cash for online services. The alternatives not existing is the entire point. If the alternatives were available we wouldn't have anything to complain about.

Basically you are just saying "let them eat cake". If there is another way to pay then there would have been no censorship.
Just because its not easy or convenient does not mean alternatives do not exist.

Again this is not censorship, this is a business decision. Visa had no problem processing these types of payments until they got dragged into a lawsuit. By continuing to process payment for this type of content, they are exposing themselves to liability so they no longer want to be involved in that kind of business, which is their right.
 
Just because its not easy or convenient does not mean alternatives do not exist.

Again this is not censorship, this is a business decision. Visa had no problem processing these types of payments until they got dragged into a lawsuit. By continuing to process payment for this type of content, they are exposing themselves to liability so they no longer want to be involved in that kind of business, which is their right.
What lawsuit are you talking about? There was no lawsuit involved in this. They asked Steam and Itch.io to remove games because an activist feminist group from Australia gathered 1000 signatures and asked them to do something about it cuz this activists got ignored by Steam.

Visa replyed by email in response to this matter by saying as long a product is legal they have no problem as they dont see what type of content ppl are buying. This was clearly a lie, cuz they did forced the removal of games. This is censorship.

The only lawsuits Visa is involved is by abusing of they monopoly power, not from alowing ppl to buy or sell porn games.

The lawsuit alleges that Visa makes it difficult for merchants to use alternatives, like lower-cost or smaller payment processors, instead of its own payment processing technology, without incurring what prosecutors described as "disloyalty penalties".
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/sep/24/visa-doj-antitrust-investigation

It seems you have a very narrow vision of what censorship is, cuz it seems to you anything a corporation decides to censor, its not censorship but a business decision. So lets ask a dictionary what the word Censorship means...

censorship
/ˈsɛnsəʃɪp/

noun
noun: censorship
  1. 1.
    the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security.
 
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The porn can be quite cringy but other than that it does have some funny moments, playing this with the boys on discord we were laughing our asses off.

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If you like American Pie and the likes Being a Dik should be right up your alley and it's honestly not bad at all.
The porn can be quite cringy but other than that it does have some funny moments, playing this with the boys on discord we were laughing our asses off.

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