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[laesperanzapaz]

I agree. There are few things more disgusting than an audience showing agreement by clapping or whatever. It's fucking stupid. I hate it. I stop watching whenever it happens.


It doesn't matter. When somebody presents an idea, discussing that idea should be totally independent of whether the poster was sincere or not.

1. Before every show, the audience [which is different everytime, they hand out free tickets waaaayy in advance, because of its popularity] is told by the DailyShow crew to laugh at the jokes, even if it's funny.

2. The audience makes the fucking show. No comedy show will work without the fucking audience. Basic Knowledge people.

Oh, and if you're that disgusted by the audience cheering on Jon all the time, you should prolly have stopped watching the damn show in the first place.

and to OP: YOu have too much time. At least it was well wasted ;p

 

[laesperanzapaz]

That's pretty fucked up to question his sincerity of his feelings on his post 9/11 show, because whatever you feel about the guy there is no doubt what he was saying there (like most of us, the weeks that followed in shock) was sincere and free of the majority of political bias.

youuuuuuuu ....didnt read teh whole post, did you?....

 

[Amir0x]

youuuuuuuu ....didnt read teh whole post, did you?....

nope, or the rest of the thread

Amir0x FAILS today

 

[mattiewheels]

whether the op's kidding us or not......he's an idiot.

 

[Kyuuketsu_Night]

Um I think usea was just being sarcastic ....

 

[akachan ningen]

I hate Jon Stewart too. Not because of his politics or sincerity, just because I find him unfunny and actually annoying. Everytime he tells a joke that doesn't get a lot of laughs, he does that thing where he stares into the camera and slowly starts smiling until the stupid audience laughs. I stopped watching it two years ago though, is he still that way?

 

[laesperanzapaz]

I hate Jon Stewart too. Not because of his politics or sincerity, just because I find him unfunny and actually annoying. Everytime he tells a joke that doesn't get a lot of laughs, he does that thing where he stares into the camera and slowly starts smiling until the stupid audience laughs. I stopped watching it two years ago though, is he still that way?

ummm....that's actually Colbert.

The two don't exactly look alike, so why confuse the two? ....

 

[Jak140]

You know who I fucking hate?

Myself, for spending the time to read this goddamn thread.

 

[JKBii]

ummm....that's actually Colbert.

The two don't exactly look alike, so why confuse the two? ....

 

[usea]

1. Before every show, the audience [which is different everytime, they hand out free tickets waaaayy in advance, because of its popularity] is told by the DailyShow crew to laugh at the jokes, even if it's funny.

2. The audience makes the fucking show. No comedy show will work without the fucking audience. Basic Knowledge people.

Oh, and if you're that disgusted by the audience cheering on Jon all the time, you should prolly have stopped watching the damn show in the first place.

and to OP: YOu have too much time. At least it was well wasted ;p

I'm talking neither about laughing, nor in particular about the daily show. A large element of comedy (especially to me) is empathetic and the audience helps with that.

What I'm talking about is when the person speaking (such as a politician during a debate or public speech) or being interviewed (such as on a talk show) says something popular and the audience decides to show its agreement by clapping and cheering. No I'm not joking, I hate it.

 

[Ford Prefect]

I thought John Gibson posted on GAF for a second.

 

[john tv]

People who dislike Jon Stewart baffle me. I can only assume there's not enough intelligence there to appreciate the comedic genius at work? The guy is a rare talent. Colbert too.

 

[laesperanzapaz]

People who dislike Jon Stewart baffle me. I can only assume there's not enough intelligence there to appreciate the comedic genius at work? The guy is a rare talent. Colbert too.

well, i've been reeaaaallly busy lately, so unfortunately the last time I've watched both shows consistently and consecutively for many days was sometime in the summer. But I've known both of their shows for a long time. TDS was ALWAYS MASTERFUL, and 2006 was a banner year for Colbert [and i'm NOT just talking about the mindblowing White House DInner piece ], but during last summer when I continually followed both shows, Colbert came off making these broke wrist/subscription pill jokes ad nauseum, it was getting old.

IMO - and this is just mine opinion - Stewart excels because he mixes his political aggressiveness with his and his writers' genius material in a way that is non-callous and yet damn hilarious [altho not always] and also far more insightful than 100% of any and all 'professional' news networks, that really gains my respect.

Colbert, on the other hand, makes jokes 1] repeated tiresomely, 2] are about him, rather than the political stuff like Stewart, 3] and his use of photoshops and dog-barking stuff and none of the thematic approach of TDS.

I guess one advantage Colbert had - the lack of awareness of Colbert in the American mainstream at the earlier years of The Report - is gone, and the hilarity edge of his 'persona' is much diminished, because now everyone tries to 'follow along' with his persona. Setting the bulk of the show's comedy on the persona, therefore, results in increasingly tiresome moments.

 

[grandjedi6]

well, i've been reeaaaallly busy lately, so unfortunately the last time I've watched both shows consistently and consecutively for many days was sometime in the summer. But I've known both of their shows for a long time. TDS was ALWAYS MASTERFUL, and 2006 was a banner year for Colbert [and i'm NOT just talking about the mindblowing White House DInner piece ], but during last summer when I continually followed both shows, Colbert came off making these broke wrist/subscription pill jokes ad nauseum, it was getting old.

IMO - and this is just mine opinion - Stewart excels because he mixes his political aggressiveness with his and his writers' genius material in a way that is non-callous and yet damn hilarious [altho not always] and also far more insightful than 100% of any and all 'professional' news networks, that really gains my respect.

Colbert, on the other hand, makes jokes 1] repeated tiresomely, 2] are about him, rather than the political stuff like Stewart, 3] and his use of photoshops and dog-barking stuff and none of the thematic approach of TDS.

I guess one advantage Colbert had - the lack of awareness of Colbert in the American mainstream at the earlier years of The Report - is gone, and the hilarity edge of his 'persona' is much diminished, because now everyone tries to 'follow along' with his persona. Setting the bulk of the show's comedy on the persona, therefore, results in increasingly tiresome moments.

He does this on purpose to emphasis his satire that editorial shows of political pundits like the O'Reilly Factor are less about news and more about personality and pundits

 

[K0NY]

Yes, I agree that Jon Stewart is not bad at being good. Congrats on sucking at well as you don't.

 

[grandjedi6]

Yes, I agree that Jon Stewart is not bad at being good. Congrats on sucking at well as you don't.

I have no clue what you are trying to say

 

[mattiewheels]

Colbert, on the other hand, makes jokes 1] repeated tiresomely, 2] are about him, rather than the political stuff like Stewart, 3] and his use of photoshops and dog-barking stuff and none of the thematic approach of TDS.

I guess one advantage Colbert had - the lack of awareness of Colbert in the American mainstream at the earlier years of The Report - is gone, and the hilarity edge of his 'persona' is much diminished, because now everyone tries to 'follow along' with his persona. Setting the bulk of the show's comedy on the persona, therefore, results in increasingly tiresome moments.

i think that the book that he just put out (and ESPECIALLY the audiobook) is the best thing he could've done with his persona. it's this perfectly distilled explanation of his entire thing, and it doesn't get run into the ground as easily as having a show every night can. i do wonder how long he'll be able to keep his show going, and what he could do next to escape that big shadow.

 

[laesperanzapaz]

i think that the book that he just put out (and ESPECIALLY the audiobook) is the best thing he could've done with his persona. it's this perfectly distilled explanation of his entire thing, and it doesn't get run into the ground as easily as having a show every night can. i do wonder how long he'll be able to keep his show going, and what he could do next to escape that big shadow.

I havent read that book, and dont plan to, but it seems it is just a continuation of what he does at his show, just in text form. What im saying is, his shtick is getting tired, old, and yet Colbert nor his team seem to realize this, and sometimes you can [at least i can] feel the audience's laughter becoming forced more and more frequent times.

 

[APF]

People who dislike Jon Stewart baffle me. I can only assume there's not enough intelligence there to appreciate the comedic genius at work? The guy is a rare talent. Colbert too.

I like Stewart, but can anything be more intellectually-arrogant than to suggest the only reason people have different tastes is because they're not as smart as you? It's the writers that make that show. Stewart is funny, but he's no rare comedic genius. Most of his off-the-cuff comments are absurdly-easy jokes. He's an awful interviewer. He often begs his audience to save him from bad delivery by waiting with puppy-dog-eyes until they laugh. In comparison, Colbert's improvisational abilities crush his. I think it's closer to the truth to suggest the only reason people like him is because he's the face of, and guiding force behind, a show they're devotees of.

 

[Eric P]

Stewart is funny, but he's no rare comedic genius. .

i think his awards show performance kind of proves that

 

[ElectricBlue187]

Stewart is a very insincere person who most of the times is either too afraid to tell his real opinion or is hiding behind the bushes intentionally.

lot of that going around.

 

[Kestastrophe]

I lol'd when I saw this ad banner on the first page:

 

[Smiling Bandit]

What irks me about Stewart is that he's oh so quick changing attitude. He's not 'setting people up in his show so that he can do another bunch of jokes in the next'! That's the whole point! He'll sometimes (rightfully!) heavily criticize a person before he's on the show. But as soon the person is on his show he's such a bootlicking sycophant I really have to wonder what happened? He seems to be more concerned with pleasing said person all of a sudden instead of delivering the same critique as before! And then this hypocrite has the nerve to return to this cowardish behind the back attacking the guest in the next show when he's gone and can't retort! Like some kind of retaliation for Steward being too afraid to confront his guest when he was actually on.

It seems like he doesn't know what he wants. He's like this schizophrenic little kid who'll slip the occasional accusal and then when you're trying to retort instead of taking on the discussion he'll all of a sudden change the topic, make a fart joke or slap your shoulder and call you his dearest buddy! Just watch anything involving John McCain and tell me that's not borderline schizophrenic. I mean it's the media and all but still there has to be a limit. Stewart is this evasive little fucker who can't get the balance right between inane jokes and serious topics but still wants to live off of this weird sense of superiority in the eye of his fans.

Call me naive, but the first time I realized they edit their clips in a rather harsh way to get the result they want I really wondered what the point of all this was. Yeah, entertainment, I know. Under the faint veil of some intellectual superiority they never prove. In the end they are trying to be satire. But if your satire is so thouroughly based upon heavily edited clips it takes alot of its credibility.

Stephen Colbert is a whole different topic. Stewart is not half the comedian Colbert is and Colbert's shtick actually works. It works with an ever hollering audience (not on purpose, though) and it works with Colbert actually confronting instead of sucking up to his guests. That fact alone is so fucking funny it makes me ... smile. Plus these occasional moments when they forget to light the applause sign after presenting a satirical joke so good they'd think the audience would be smart enough to clap on their own - but they won't.

Edit PS: Oh, and you know who I also hate? This turkish news correspondent. Man, this guy seems so arrogant and he has a voice that could wake the dead. Jesus, he's worse than that level 80 glass-shattering demon from 1UP.