Vire
Member
The thing is, not really. Because in Halo 3 you have to be about 5 feet away or less for it to actually be a 4 shot. (dat spread)
So in almost all cases, this game has a faster time to kill than 4, Reach and 3.
Not a fan.
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The thing is, not really. Because in Halo 3 you have to be about 5 feet away or less for it to actually be a 4 shot. (dat spread)
So in almost all cases, this game has a faster time to kill than 4, Reach and 3.
Not a fan.
Future PhaZe
Member
I am paraphrasing a table of numbers, but yes.
I'm not going to argue with you about what you like and don't like, but you should try it in december. The vast majority of pros and schmoes we talked to enjoyed it, regardless of their prior stance on TTK. Now you may still dislike it, but you should play it in the context of the other stuff rather than making assumptions about an imbalanced match ona vid.
You might still hate it, but looking is not the same as trying.
Poodlestrike
Banned
FTFY.
2 is good, but the bugs and slowness (as well as the hilariously generous aim assist) hold it back.
Vire
Member
Of course I'm going to try it still. I'm just getting my bitching and moaning out ripe and early like always.
Interesting.
While looking at your table of numbers, how much do movement speeds between the games differ?
link1201
Member
They really need to do something about those team emblems.
I agree. I imagine though a lot of the art is not anywhere near final yet. I do hope we get better looking stuff. This goes for some of the medals too. I kinda dig the Top Gun Medal though. Captain america vibe.
cardsbasebal
Member
I like the br kill time being the sames as 3. Honestly I was completely against most of the changes until I saw how it played. It looks intense! Can't wait for December!
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Nice about the br kill times. What worries me about the smg is that the br should, imo, still have a good chance against it even at close range as long as you are precise. Since the game is so fast paced you can close a gap real fast especially in CQ maps. This could render the br useless once people learn how to manuever.
Of course I'm going to try it still. I'm just getting my bitching and moaning out ripe and early like always.
I am more concerned about your inability to make four-shots at more than five feet. I'ma get you some GUNNARS
Poodlestrike
Banned
Honestly, my first thought about this is it would force people to carry a close-range weapon like an AR or SMG to complement the BR. Could be an interesting new meta.
But yeah, the better option is probably to tone down the SMG a smidge.
Gnome Scat
Member
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Weapon variety is always good, but one thing that is awesome about Halo is that precision always reigns supreme. If you want to use a less accurate weapon you can do fine, but spray and pray should rarely trump precision at anything but very close range.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Mmm. Yeah, the ranges on the automatics are a bit long, but I'd argue that in the past they've been too short. You shouldn't have to close to melee ranges to use an automatic weapon effectively; precision should rule the mid and long ranges, but short should belong to auto.
I think the skill gap in Halo 5 will be based on movement, map control, etc. The kill times do seem fast or equal to how they are in Halo 4.
biosnake20
Member
Hey frankie, how far are you guys willing to go regarding game changes after getting beta feedback? Would completely removing a spartan abilitiy even be in the realm of possibility?
Abinash117
Member
Can you say what the TTK was between halo 3, reach, 4, and for the current build of halo 5 or just 3,4, and reach? Also can you say what the base movement speed across the games I tried asking some developers on twitter , but I never got a reply.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Depends on how significant the aim assist reductions are. We could be looking at the first major shooting skill gap in the series since CE, and I'm seriously excited.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Looks decent. A little fast though.
Read the post I quoted. Or rather the quoted post in the post I quoted (down the rabbit hole...).
I'm enjoying the looking, and I can't wait for the trying... But I'm not liking the hearing...
More serious sounding Spartan voice actors for the chatter would be appreciated. ^_^;
FaintColt388301
Member
Yup, even at close range it should still require more than just spray and pray . I liked back in the old days I'd get in assault rifle battles and just out juke them and get the kill. Even if they fired first. That was always pretty funny.
Face it Tiger..
Banned
I actually like the idea of emphasizing Red v Blue like this, I'm just not a huge fan of the logos. I guess red is okay but the blue doesn't match red.
I made a mockup of what I think would look better while following the same idea but you may not agree. I'm a bit iffy on the R myself but I was trying to stick to their design.
343i would hire you, if they had any sense.. which they clearly lack.
???
have you played H2A mp yet?
granted, i only managed to get into one game this week, but i found the complete lack of aim assist quite jarring.
disclaimer: i've been full on PC gaming again for the past year, and could just be completely out of touch with what aim assist even feels like anymore...
Poodlestrike
Banned
What'd be awesome is if it was customizable, so you'd have some defaults (serious, enthusiastic, silly), and then unlockables, like Sergeant Johnson
I'm going more off what I played of H2 back in the day, as well as the comprehensive analysis thereof; haven't played enough H2A to get really familiar with it. Halo 2's hitbox was incredibly generous, ditto aim magnetism.
Vire
Member
:lol
What the hell... this is actually a thing?. I've never heard of this till now.
And stinkles making fun of my four shots.
Watched the other RUL video, SMG damage is way too high. That needs to be toned down a bit IMO.
We could, that is exciting.
We could, that is exciting.
What'd be awesome is if it was customizable, so you'd have some defaults (serious, enthusiastic, silly), and then unlockables, like Sergeant Johnson
That's basically like Titanfall and your Titan OS voices.
I'd be okay with this ...
Edit: Oh man... I read "Sergeant Johnson" as "Scarlett Johansson"... I'd be okay with that too...
HighResTomato
Member
I actually like the idea of emphasizing Red v Blue like this, I'm just not a huge fan of the logos. I guess red is okay but the blue doesn't match red.
I made a mockup of what I think would look better while following the same idea but you may not agree. I'm a bit iffy on the R myself but I was trying to stick to their design.
Thats more like it!
Blargonaut
Banned
It doesn't look bad; but, personally I'd love if:
- Players' health/shields values should be increased slightly. Players look like they die much too quickly. Let people enjoy more tense chipper fights than this.
- PLEASE remove the power weapon announcements completely from the game. PLEASE. They're utterly distracting handholds and totally unnecessary.
Other than that, speaking as a fan since the CE days; the movement speed and style seem completely acceptable. The sprint doesn't look game-breaking or momentum-stopping at all. UI seems solid. Weapons look fine.
ADS (aim down sight) doesn't seem as game-breaking as the doomsayers were touting it to be; don't people remember the famous/infamous godhand 2x Halo: CE magnum pistol? The reaper that was the Halo 2 Battle Rifle? Those were essentially ADS-oriented weapons and were present in Halo long before this series entry's attempt. While, yes, they were basically Death's Scythes, ADS weapons can work as a complement to an arsenal if the balancing is done right. Hopefully 343 will get the balancing done right.
However, I did get an Unreal Tournament vibe from the entire showing, especially from that team victory shot and the Blue Team/Red Team icons at the end. Not necessarily a bad thing, just something strange to me.
- Players' health/shields values should be increased slightly. Players look like they die much too quickly. Let people enjoy more tense chipper fights than this.
- PLEASE remove the power weapon announcements completely from the game. PLEASE. They're utterly distracting handholds and totally unnecessary.
Other than that, speaking as a fan since the CE days; the movement speed and style seem completely acceptable. The sprint doesn't look game-breaking or momentum-stopping at all. UI seems solid. Weapons look fine.
ADS (aim down sight) doesn't seem as game-breaking as the doomsayers were touting it to be; don't people remember the famous/infamous godhand 2x Halo: CE magnum pistol? The reaper that was the Halo 2 Battle Rifle? Those were essentially ADS-oriented weapons and were present in Halo long before this series entry's attempt. While, yes, they were basically Death's Scythes, ADS weapons can work as a complement to an arsenal if the balancing is done right. Hopefully 343 will get the balancing done right.
However, I did get an Unreal Tournament vibe from the entire showing, especially from that team victory shot and the Blue Team/Red Team icons at the end. Not necessarily a bad thing, just something strange to me.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Either or.
Pop
Member
I actually like the idea of emphasizing Red v Blue like this, I'm just not a huge fan of the logos. I guess red is okay but the blue doesn't match red.
I made a mockup of what I think would look better while following the same idea but you may not agree. I'm a bit iffy on the R myself but I was trying to stick to their design.
That looks nice!!
What'd be awesome is if it was customizable, so you'd have some defaults (serious, enthusiastic, silly), and then unlockables, like Sergeant Johnson
I'm going more off what I played of H2 back in the day, as well as the comprehensive analysis thereof; haven't played enough H2A to get really familiar with it. Halo 2's hitbox was incredibly generous, ditto aim magnetism.
honestly i can't even remember myself!
that was 10 years ago and i'm pretty sure i was very,very stoned every time i played halo 2 online [which was a lot]
Poodlestrike
Banned
Nah, your shields just won't recharge while you sprint. That is probably a factor in the vids we've seen, though.
Forsaken82
Member
It doesn't even come close to CoD. It doesn't focus on full auto weapons nearly as much as CoD does. Judging from this video, the best weapons still appear to be the BR, the Pistol and the Sniper Rifle. The TTK may be low but that and ADS don't make it CoD.
Also the complaints about ADS are laughable when using this video as evidence of it ruining the franchise as the guy in the video hardly used it. I could count the amount of times he ADS'd on one hand. Pretty sure he spent more time watching the animation of him falling off the map than he did while in ADS. Point being, ADS is hardly as critical to game play as it is in a game like BF or CoD.
Dragonborn
Member
Look pretty fun tbh. Plus, if it's not good, we'll have the MCC for years to come anyways.
TacticalFox88
Banned
So, canon wise is this still taking place on the S-deck of Infinity?
Also this. So sick of that damn weapon, it's repetitive and doesn't improve the sandbox in any way.
Poodlestrike
Banned
First time since CE.
I don't think they've said, but it does seem likely.