Full match of Halo 5 mp
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Miles Quaritch
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That's fair enough. I don't feel Halo needs that as there are other games to fill that need, but I'm open to seeing how it's implemented.
It's disappointed that Halo can't just be Halo though. There's something special about the pacing of old Halo games, I feel it's being pushed aside as people demand more and more frenetic action.
I don't know, I feel like Halo offers something that no other shooter does and it's sad to see people wanting the series to go in the same direction as all the others.
I'll see for myself soon enough, just waiting on the online issues to be sorted out before I dive in.
Son of Sam
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This does not look like Halo 4.
But it's still Halo. Watch as you play Halo MCC you'll see. It's enjoyable but it gets old fast.
samurai1226
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The BR needs 4 hits to kill (including a headshot) based on the videos - This is the way it was in every Halo title, besides Halo CE having a 3 shot pistol.
Back then in H3 times there was no real other big console FPS, CoD was just getting popular by MW1 at the same time. Today we have way more big FPS franchises in annual releases, of course no Halo title will have such a big and lasting community again
There's only so much that can be done when it comes to Halo 1-3 movement and pacing.
People like to cite Halo as a slower FPS series, but that's disingenuous in a lot of ways. When Halo 1 launched, the other big multiplayer shooters on consoles beforehand were Goldeneye and to a lesser extent Perfect Dark. Compare the time to kill in those games and how they control versus Halo 1.
Goldeneye controls like ass and has movement ease like dried concrete. Killing people in Goldeneye is a long winded experience without one hit kill weapons. Compare the controls and pacing of Goldeneye compared to Halo, Halo is on some hyper speed shit compared to Goldeneye and Perfect Dark.
Call of Duty amped up aiming and movement ease, that's the main draw of CoD, how smooth everything feels. Sprinting feels natural in CoD, the character movement works flawlessly when it comes to traversing maps. Halo as a series hasn't been fine tuned when it comes to making traversal not clunky or cumbersome. Sprinting in Halo Reach and Halo 4 feels wonky, that added speed looks and feels unnatural.
If the maps and core mechanics in Halo 5 are designed so added speed and mobility feel right, that everything clicks, then Halo will be on the right track evolution wise. I'm sure there were people saying Halo 1 felt too fast and mobile compared to Goldeneye.
Does not seem any different than the current TTK. The video makes it seem people are dying fast because, especially in the first part of the video, Red team is constantly isolated and fighting 1v2 if not more in which case they should die fast.
If you look for example at the 5.35ish mark the player we follow finds a lone red team member and the firefight that ensues is very Halo. Red team player could even have won the fight if his reaction/decision making would have been better.
Looks great so far, I like small touches such a perfect kill medal, they really seem te be nailing the making it e-sports shooter. I found the footage exiting to watch and can't wait to play it.
Unless you're talking about automatics. The BR kills at almost the exact same speed as H2/H2A/H4.
darkwing-buck
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That 60 FPS has me foaming from the mouth.
BuggyDClown
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Minus kill time I love all of this. Good evolution and of the spartans without the rock paper scissors of AA.
Also can we start saying SS for smart scope. It does not play like ADS thats why they don't use that term.
SS is an improvement in my opinion, having seen it the old zoom looks silly.
Again SS is NOT ADS.
Also can we start saying SS for smart scope. It does not play like ADS thats why they don't use that term.
SS is an improvement in my opinion, having seen it the old zoom looks silly.
Again SS is NOT ADS.
Son of Sam
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Exactly, well said.
R U A Man Or A Slave
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Saw this thread created by Deadly Cyclone earlier today which contained more videos of Halo 5 gameplay. Links provided to Deadly Cyclone's thread is provided below and so is a direct quote.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=932323&highlight=halo+5
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=932323&highlight=halo+5
Miles Quaritch
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I don't know if it'll got old for me. I'm a die hard Halo 2 MP fan. I was playing right up to the moment they shut down the servers. I love everything about it. The pacing, the maps, the feel, the controls. It's literally the perfect competitive shooter for me.
This a fair point and well explained.
I guess we'll see how it all comes together in the beta, I'm open to being proven wrong and in some ways I really hope I am...
MagicWithEarvin
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Looks fun, I'll give it a try.
Ember Spirit
Banned
I can't believe the things people are complaining about
it actually looks really good
arena shooters are supposed to be fast
and if you get as many headhots as this guy, of course people will die quickly
the ground pound looks kinda dumb though
it actually looks really good
arena shooters are supposed to be fast
and if you get as many headhots as this guy, of course people will die quickly
the ground pound looks kinda dumb though
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
I think it looks great. Props to the guy playing for putting in work
Mohonky
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Jesus, maybe they should just rerelease the game ever year and not worry about it.
BuggyDClown
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This all really looks amazing. Love the slide and the climbing.
I can't wait. It all seems like a great addition to halo gameplay.
I can't wait. It all seems like a great addition to halo gameplay.
I know that feeling. Rainbow Six Vegas 1&2 are probably my favorite multiplayer shooters last gen, I was in a few clans for Rainbow Six Vegas 1. One of the teams I was on made it to the top 10 on the site Gamebattles. I'd kill for the movement and gunplay in those games to return, but the majority of average joe players and Gaffers would probably find the controls and movement in those games to be really outdated.
Luckily Rainbow Six Siege is the best modern Rainbow Six game that could be made, as long as Ubisoft doesn't royally fuck it up with microtransactions and other things.
Twin Tails
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EVERYONE is a Winner
Sir Garbageman
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Think it looks pretty fantastic and a reasonable evolution of the series. Only thing I'm meh about is the ground pound. Feels like there should be more recovery time on it when you crash down.
Treechopper
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Ah, thanks. Don't know how I missed that.
I haven't played COD since MW 2, but i guess going by this comment COD has gotten rid of ordinance drops, loadouts, perks etc. Cause i didn't see any of that here.
ozz ex machina
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People are forgetting how quick the halo CE kill times are.
This looks awesome. Some superfluous abilities, but as long as they don't break anything and it makes the game more appealing to the masses, then that's great news!
Also haven't read the whole thread, but reports that the game has the lowest aim assist since halo 1 sounds awesome to me! Can't fucking wait until the beta. I do hope they have some form of no radar start.
This looks awesome. Some superfluous abilities, but as long as they don't break anything and it makes the game more appealing to the masses, then that's great news!
Also haven't read the whole thread, but reports that the game has the lowest aim assist since halo 1 sounds awesome to me! Can't fucking wait until the beta. I do hope they have some form of no radar start.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
It looks fun and skill based. All i care about really.
Watching top players use the boost mechanic against each other should be fun.
It sounds like Killzone chirp on steroids though.
Watching top players use the boost mechanic against each other should be fun.
It sounds like Killzone chirp on steroids though.
Mr. Enigma
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What the hell have they done to the MP announcer? They gradually make him sound more and more like a tool with every game. In Halo 1, he was this cold, gravelly-voiced narrator to let you know key things. In Halo 5, he sounds like he needs to be doing Monster Energy Drink radio ads. Also, is it really necessary for him to call out the name of EVERY medal?
Bro, That's not what am saying.
We don't have problems with new things, No problem with evolution, But that evolution should be based on Halo, On what made Halo one of the best FPS.
Copying what others do is not Evolution. Just because its working with others shooters doesn't mean it will make it right for Halo.
I have played every COD game, but bought only two of them. MW1 and BO1. Boycott it because there is nothing there, Each years its the same. And every other shooter is the same as COD. Even how you control the game. Where is the creativity I say?
For me, Halo was the center of shooters, The crown, Because it was unique.
Once again, just because it looks like Halo it doesn't mean its Halo.
IMO, Its more like COD than Halo from what I saw. So its not for me.
I will try the BETA and vote with my money. It doesn't help to talk.
So how will Halo 6 be based on that Video? How will it evolve Further? The problem is not Just Halo 5. It's the evolution that started it all, Reach, Halo 4 and now 5.
How did the fans receive the last two? population? Do the math.
ozz ex machina
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How the hell can you think that is more like COD than Halo? On a purely mechanical level, this is still Halo all over.
Again not seeing what's COD about this from these vids. Unless COD plays like Halo now.
Except were seeing more and more say the automatic weapons like AR/SMG are definitely more accurate when scoped. That's not just a visual change, that's straight up ADS.
Plus the announcing of the power weapons, having them be a holographic orange projection, have a little base where they appear, it's too much handholding. In Halo 4 they had added a small Waypoint on map when they came, and would come down like a missile. In H2A they've literally added small white waypoints over each weapon and a grey one when they're not there. Now it's like POWER WEAPONS ARE COMING! POWER WEAPONS ARE HERE! POWER WEAPONS ARE ON MAP!
It's funny reading stuff from Greenskull as well. He said the same things for every one of Halo 4's changes. Now he's repeating the same stuff verbatim. They're changing their game for people who don't play beyond the month.
The Xtortionist
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I really don't like the new DMR. Just looks like a big chunk of something, not appealing at all.
Halo was never like COD,
Please look at this video and tell me they have no similarities at all?
When was or did Halo looked anything like COD?
Twin Tails
Member
doubt that's final design, we will see in a year
ebullientprism
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Automatic pray and spray weapons seem to kill as fast as DMR/BR. Probably faster.
Dat skill based MP.
Dat skill based MP.
As long as the maps are designed with the faster movement in mind, I don't really see how it will ruing either map control, flow, or design.
Extremely difficult to say based on 7 minutes of someone absolutely dominating the other players on the map.
TommyTosser
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Saying this for a series that used to have dual wielding is pretty funny.
ozz ex machina
Member
This is just similar abilities, as I said. On a mechanic level, the game clearly plays/feels nothing like cod.
These stupid cries to remove things because they look like cod aren't interesting.
It's just a bunch of parochial Halo fans who can't objectively look at their baby and realise that if they want the game to ever sell well again (without praying on nostalgia) shit needs to be shaken up.
It looks like 343 are trying their best to shake things up on a purely aesthetic level, a lot of these abilities really don't break any of the classic halo mechanics. Sprint is the only one which raises issues, but from gameplays watched so far and the pro feedback I have heard, it's not something I'm entirely concerned about.
Final Verdict
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Had to watch twice so I could soak in some details.
First time through I was worried BC it looked like he was killing people too fast, but second time through i noticed that he got a couple lucky assist, and it looks to me like time to kill is roughly the same as Halo 4.
Overall, I like the pace of it, but feel like they will need to limit boosting with a cool down timer as it looks a bit OP.
I like the fact that he did not have to sprint around hardly to get a lot of kills/avoid dying.
Also, i can say that i'm not worried about the 'ADS' anymore. It really looks like it is just a skin for scoping, and he didn't have to use it to get a lot of kills.
First time through I was worried BC it looked like he was killing people too fast, but second time through i noticed that he got a couple lucky assist, and it looks to me like time to kill is roughly the same as Halo 4.
Overall, I like the pace of it, but feel like they will need to limit boosting with a cool down timer as it looks a bit OP.
I like the fact that he did not have to sprint around hardly to get a lot of kills/avoid dying.
Also, i can say that i'm not worried about the 'ADS' anymore. It really looks like it is just a skin for scoping, and he didn't have to use it to get a lot of kills.