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[Li Kao]

I said in the previous thread about Fuse that I would gladly change my opinion on the design 180° modification based on the trailer. Well not gonna happen but...
In all honesty I did indeed get a certain sense of craziness weapon-wise (Insomniac here, not a surprise), and I won't doubt that the game could be really dynamic as 8byte said. But that saddly isn't enough to make up for the terrible lack of personnality the game shows. It could be a solid shooter, have I seen something that would make me prefer it over your typical generic shooter, no.
Sad.

 

[Fersis]

The OP, who I assume is from Imnsoniac, must be feeling pretty bad right now.

Yeah, poor JS and IG.
The morale at the studio must be on the floor right now.

<3 IG <3

 

[Loudninja]

The OP, who I assume is from Imnsoniac, must be feeling pretty bad right now.

I doubt it.

 

[Canis lupus]

About the trailer:

"Generic Visuals

Generic Gameplay

Generic Dubstep

May as well put this out in a white box saying "VIDEOGAME" in black letters.

It's the sort of videogame that looks like a background videogame in one of those Law & Order Episodes.

Even the Insomniac responses are Generi-O-Tron PR Bot 3000

Look forward to generic videogame from the former creators of full of life and fun games. Coming 2013"


A youtube comment I agree with.

 

[D4Danger]

Generic Dubstep

not dubstep and not the best choice

 

[I3rand0]

I'm really looking forward to the post mortem interview(s) from Insomniac when this game releases.

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

Hey guys,

Here is the brand new trailer for Fuse. More of an action / sizzler than a story piece... we'll get to that later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tERz8e3rxU4&feature=youtu.be&hd=1

Also - raw gameplay footage in just an hour on Spike TV's GT.TV w/ Geoff Keighley. Interviews with Ted Price, Brian Allgeier, and the Fragile EAgle.

What a piece of uninspired shit compared to the original trailer for Overstrike.
It can have the humor of the old game, but the character design and presentation has turned into shit.

 

[Rollo Lawson]

People are acting like Insomniac didn't make Ratchet & Clank, Resistance...where's the trust?

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Awww... what happened to the awesome art style from Overstrike?

Looks generic as all hell.

Pretty much my thoughts. Could turn out awesome, but in a market with a ton of generic looking shooters they should have stuck with the different art style.

 

[Hindle]

I wonder if Insominac are going to listen to thier fans?

 

[Lombax]

That trailer just made me sad. I miss the creative developer that Insomniac once was.

 

[Desmond]

People are acting like Insomniac didn't make Ratchet & Clank, Resistance...where's the trust?

Resistance 2 rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

 

[Z3M0G]

280 likes, 411 dislikes

Holy...

 

[Coolwhip]

A game genericific by EA, avoiding any kind of risk.

 

[Toppot]

The OP, who I assume is from Imnsoniac, must be feeling pretty bad right now.

OP is James Stevenson, Senior Community Manger for Insomniac Games. He and anyone at Insomniac know how most of Gaf generally over react. People are just butt hurt over the change in style/tone, forgetting that despite that it might actually be a kick ass game with co-op gameplay as good or better than R2's, which is superb. We don't have a good idea about story, characters or tone atm, in a couple of months I'm sure we will see something that shows this is still an interesting game.

I'm sure things like the big number of dislikes on YouTube of the trailer hurt a bit but Insomniac have belief in their vision and anyone who has actually played the game really likes it.

 

[Callibretto]

from the ubisoft game concept submission form thread, made by goldrusher

 

[Rollo Lawson]

Resistance 2 rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

That's one game out of how many? Besides it also has a lot of fans

Also EA has been kinda trash lately but let's not forget the gems they have published...new IP's...Mirror's Edge? Dead Space?

 

[Z3M0G]

from the ubisoft game concept submission form thread, made by goldrusher

Brilliant.

Resistance 2 rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

The first thing this trailer reminded me of was R2's co-op mode. (Which I loved, but just saying...)

 

[Aaron]

Why do people keep calling the song in the trailer dubstep? Are they like hard of hearing or something? Because you don't have to really know dubstep to realize it's nothing like that.

 

[ironcreed]

The production value and graphics are fine. It just has no character and fails to reach out and grab you. It really just looks like yet another soulless third person military shooter with 'SuPa PoWaS' that is geared towards nothing but even more frag-fest multiplayer. But hey, I am sure it will do it for some... for awhile at least.

 

[Coolwhip]

from the ubisoft game concept submission form thread, made by goldrusher

That's great.

 

[injurai]

not dubstep and not the best choice

yup, the entire collective knowledge over music genres went down when the late 2010 dubstep edm ukg hybrids came into the lime-light. Now every bass heavy track is being mislabeled, and oddly true dubstep is considered anything but dubstep...

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

from the ubisoft game concept submission form thread, made by goldrusher

I know it's a joke but looks like this is exactly what the fuck happened on EA's end lol.

 

[Rollo Lawson]

from the ubisoft game concept submission form thread, made by goldrusher

Ah that's it, Team Fortress. I knew the old art style looked vaguely familiar but I couldn't place it

 

[Skidd]

I look forward to having fun.


:>

 

[Cake Boss]

Ratchet it is not.

But it should totally get the dudebros and sell good though.

The dudbros will be too busy with BalckOps 2, Halo 4, Gears Of War, Army of 2, BoarderLands, Medal Of Honor etc.

Thia game has bomba written all over it.

 

[Orayn]

People are acting like Insomniac didn't make Ratchet & Clank, Resistance...where's the trust?

Where's the game I was looking forward to in 2011?

 

[jstevenson]

Where's the game I was looking forward to in 2011?

actually still in there for the most part.

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

Yeah, poor JS and IG.
The morale at the studio must be on the floor right now.

<3 IG <3

I doubt it.

Yeah, poor JS and IG.
The morale at the studio must be on the floor right now.

<3 IG <3

Im sorry but if I had this extreme response of public after showing this, and showing something before that had more acceptance I would.
If it was EA's idea of changing I would be furious, becuase im pretty sure they know what they have made now is generic and the frist idea was better (even if they cant say this in public sadly).
If it was their idea, well, I would start to accept this was not the way to go.

from the ubisoft game concept submission form thread, made by goldrusher

Amazing.

actually still in there for the most part.

After the trailer and the interview, it doesnt seem so. At least in style.

 

[Cake Boss]

Agreed,but I am not worry about that really.



Lots of different locations this is one, people have seen snow and forest environments.

James also said that each level has a different color palette.

Modern warfare also had snow and jungle levels.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

actually still in there for the most part.

Credit to you John for sticking around, this is a harsh place at the best of times.

When will we be seeing more of FUSE? Will stuff be shown gradually or is there a magazine exclusive coming? Is it your intention to wait until the holiday period is over before giving this a push?

 

[Loudninja]

Modern warfare also had snow and jungle levels.

Ok?

 

[Raxus]

People are acting like Insomniac didn't make Ratchet & Clank, Resistance...where's the trust?

My trust was grey and I dropped it in one of Fuse's environments. I have yet to find it.

Spoiler

P.S. Insomniac writers that is what is called a joke, it endears your character to the player! That tip is free!

 

[Opiate]

I do hope I'm wrong, but I feel that Insomniac has historically operated as the second best developer in a genre, or what you might call a AAa developer: when they made spyro, mario was obviously around, with Crash on the PS1 significantly outselling them; when they focused on ratchet and clank, Mario still did reign supreme over the genre; they started making Resistance, which sold decently but was not a Halo or Half Life or Call of Duty.

If you personally like some of Insomniacs games better than Halo or Mario or Crash, that's absolutely fine; I'm speaking primarily about sales and broader reception, where individual personal preferences are less relevant.

This is a fine role to play and I don't mean to denigrate it; it's bad to simply only have the biggest seller (Be that Halo, Mario, Crash, what have you) and nothing else. You need these games which are not the king of the genre but are still very, very good. The problem for Insomniac, I feel, is that's precisely where we seem to be heading -- you're either Halo, or you're out of business. You're either AAA, or relegated to $10-15 downloadable software. Insomniac's history of being the AAa puts them in a very bad position in this polarized atmosphere.

 

[Toppot]

Where's the game I was looking forward to in 2011?

In our imaginations is the simple answer. We each imagined our own game extrapolated from the trailer, and after such a long break and natural evolution what we thought it was going to be and what it is, is of course different.

The game evolved, the game we pictured back then was nothing more than some prototypes/alpha and a CG trailer. Overstrike has evolved into Fuse.

Though I can't wait for them to do a retrospective and show us early prototypes of the characters and game.

 

[Mr Touchdown]

We did it with SSX and we'll do it with Fuse.

Change the damn game back to what it was EA.

 

[Neuromancer]

jstevenson I trust you but I hope that story trailer comes out soon...

 

[Miker]

from the ubisoft game concept submission form thread, made by goldrusher

Gold.

 

[Lombax]

I do hope I'm wrong, but I feel that Insomniac has made a pattern out of being second best in their career: when they made spyro, mario was obviosuly around, with Crash on the PS1 significantly outselling them; when they focused on ratchet and clank, Mario still did reign supreme over the genre; they started making Resistance, which sold decently but was not a Halo or Half Life or Call of Duty.

If you personally like some of Insomniacs games better than Halo or Mario or Crash, that's absolutely fine; I'm speaking primarily about sales and broader reception, where individual personal preferences are less relevant.

This is a fine role to play and I don't mean to denigrate it; it's bad to simply only have the biggest seller (Be that Halo, Mario, Crash, what have you) and nothing else. The problem for Insomniac, I feel, is that's precisely where we seem to be heading -- you're either Halo, or you're out of business. You're either AAA, or relegated to $10-15 downloadable software. Insomniac's history of being the AAa puts them in a very bad position in this polarized atmosphere.

The thing that scares me most about the future of Insomniac is since they partnered with EA Insomniac has been tasked with making a Facebook game and what appears to be a generic shooter.

 

[Nesotenso]

Ok I am late to this thread, but why the departure ( at least appears so) from the initial Teaser trailer ?

 

[Neuromancer]

Ok I am late to this thread, but why the departure ( at least appears so) from the initial Teaser trailer ?

EA's influence seems to be the general consensus but no one knows for sure.

 

[JimtotheHum]

Just when you think they can't get more generic with this trailer, they throw in a mech.

 

[Orayn]

Ok I am late to this thread, but why the departure ( at least appears so) from the initial Teaser trailer ?

Apparently the fun, campy, stylized look and feel of that trailer didn't mesh with the gameplay they were aiming for. Bottom-up design won out and Insomniac changed the tone to fit the mechanics.

If you'll excuse me, I'm going to stare wistfully off into the distance, wishing there was a game whose mechanics fit that awesome trailer's tone.

 

[Toppot]

The thing that scares me most about the future of Insomniac is since they partnered with EA Insomniac has been tasked with making a Facebook game and what appears to be a generic shooter.

They have been tasked with nothing, they have CHOSEN to do these things, things Sony wouldn't let them do. And they are also still making at least one game for Sony, Ratchet and Clank Full Frontal Assault. I suspect they have other teams working on other games for Sony, possibly PS4 aswell.

Ok I am late to this thread, but why the departure ( at least appears so) from the initial Teaser trailer ?

They didn't feel the initial style allowed them to fully show the damage of the weapons and the story they had come up with during development. The CG trailer was more of an initial target render. You'd be surprised how much some games change from the initial pitch/concept.

 

[Messofanego]

Ok I am late to this thread, but why the departure ( at least appears so) from the initial Teaser trailer ?

Something about bloody violence not fitting a cartoony aesthetic stupid reasoning.

 

[Nesotenso]

EA's influence seems to be the general consensus but no one knows for sure.

this seems like a misstep. may turn out well but the initial art style would have made it stand out from the herd.

 

[Santiako]

Something about bloody violence not fitting a cartoony aesthetic stupid reasoning.

But cartoon violence is best violence.

 

[Duffyside]

“We’d started off with a cartoony art style, but it just never felt like the stakes were that high. You really couldn’t take anyone seriously." - Ted Price

I couldn't disagree with this more. Nothing makes me care less about a world than this gritty/brown filter infesting games these days, and people were actually excited about the characters in this game just from that one fairly bland original trailer, because it actually focused on them. Just that fact made people care.

The "you couldn't take anyone seriously" comment strikes me as completely irrational. Do these guys not realize that Pixar movies about blue monsters and children's toys make people break down in tears, and not Michael Bay films?

What's there to care about here? Why are the stakes higher than before? Because the dudes I'm killing are "grittier"? Does Insomniac know how many times I've drooled out my mouth while pulling the trigger with the reticule over some rounded, modern black helmet? Are the stakes higher because now the dudes explode like blood balloons?

Still waiting for actual gameplay to hit youtube, but even if this thing played like Vanquish with cool Insomniac weapons, I don't think I would bite at full price. I can't take this world seriously.

 

[Rollo Lawson]

I do hope I'm wrong, but I feel that Insomniac has historically operated as the second best developer in a genre, or what you might call a AAa developer: when they made spyro, mario was obviously around, with Crash on the PS1 significantly outselling them; when they focused on ratchet and clank, Mario still did reign supreme over the genre; they started making Resistance, which sold decently but was not a Halo or Half Life or Call of Duty.

If you personally like some of Insomniacs games better than Halo or Mario or Crash, that's absolutely fine; I'm speaking primarily about sales and broader reception, where individual personal preferences are less relevant.

This is a fine role to play and I don't mean to denigrate it; it's bad to simply only have the biggest seller (Be that Halo, Mario, Crash, what have you) and nothing else. You need these games which are not the king of the genre but are still very, very good. The problem for Insomniac, I feel, is that's precisely where we seem to be heading -- you're either Halo, or you're out of business. You're either AAA, or relegated to $10-15 downloadable software. Insomniac's history of being the AAa puts them in a very bad position in this polarized atmosphere.

Very true. Thing is - you'd think with the relationship they've built with the so-called core audience over the years, through numerous well-crafted games, we would support them in the face of such a challenge. We pride ourselves on being above the fray and one trailer sends our whole world crumbling down.

 

[Raxus]

But cartoon violence is best violence.

But look at the failures it has produced.

Borderlands was sent to die!
Team Fortress 2 is now Free to Play

ALL MISERABLE FAILURES!