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GAF-Hop |OTXVI| Build a Wall (of Better Top 20 Albums)

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Bronx-Man

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It is so weird to see people swear up and down that Em's still running the game despite the fact that he's got more albums that're shit than good at this point. It'd be like me trying to say M. Night's one of the best working directors alive because of the streak from Sixth Sense to Signs.
 

Koozek

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You know, I was watching The Get Down today and hearing Nas' narration made me think about something... I feel like Kendrick already by far eclipsed Nas artistically and legacy-wise in every aspect. Give me one reason why Nas should be in the all-time Top 5 over Kenny. Which one of his albums ever were as creative, meaningful, cohesive, and critically acclaimed as Kendrick's last 3 albums in a row? And this is coming from someone who loved all Nas albums back in the days (Street's Disciple and Lost Tapes being my faves besides Illmatic, obviously).
 

Eos

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You know, I was watching The Get Down today and hearing Nas' narration made me think about something... I feel like Kendrick already by far eclipsed Nas artistically and legacy-wise in every aspect. Give me one reason why Nas should be in the all-time Top 5 over Kenny. Which one of his albums ever were as creative, meaningful, cohesive, and critically acclaimed as Kendrick's last 3 albums in a row? And this is coming from someone who loved all Nas albums back in the days (Street's Disciple and Lost Tapes being my faves besides Illmatic, obviously).
Summer on smash > kdot discography
 

Hitta93

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You know, I was watching The Get Down today and hearing Nas' narration made me think about something... I feel like Kendrick already by far eclipsed Nas artistically and legacy-wise in every aspect. Give me one reason why Nas should be in the all-time Top 5 over Kenny. Which one of his albums ever were as creative, meaningful, cohesive, and critically acclaimed as Kendrick's last 3 albums in a row? And this is coming from someone who loved all Nas albums back in the days (Street's Disciple and Lost Tapes being my faves besides Illmatic, obviously).

Has Nas ever set out to make a full concept album?

It's still too early and personally DAMN. sucks.
 
You know, I was watching The Get Down today and hearing Nas' narration made me think about something... I feel like Kendrick already by far eclipsed Nas artistically and legacy-wise in every aspect. Give me one reason why Nas should be in the all-time Top 5 over Kenny. Which one of his albums ever were as creative, meaningful, cohesive, and critically acclaimed as Kendrick's last 3 albums in a row? And this is coming from someone who loved all Nas albums back in the days (Street's Disciple and Lost Tapes being my faves besides Illmatic, obviously).

Kendrick ain't top 5 already, you are crazy.
 

LionPride

Banned
Kendrick has one of the best discography's of any rapper to ever live with two classic albums, one really good album, and one great album with only one dud and that was his first album. He currently has a bit of sustained success, he has the numbers, he has the talent, what doesn't he have to be top 5 all time?

He's my number 2 favorite rapper all time rn.
 
You know, I was watching The Get Down today and hearing Nas' narration made me think about something... I feel like Kendrick already by far eclipsed Nas artistically and legacy-wise in every aspect. Give me one reason why Nas should be in the all-time Top 5 over Kenny. Which one of his albums ever were as creative, meaningful, cohesive, and critically acclaimed as Kendrick's last 3 albums in a row? And this is coming from someone who loved all Nas albums back in the days (Street's Disciple and Lost Tapes being my faves besides Illmatic, obviously).
How can it seriously be argued that Kendrick has surpassed Nas legacy wise?
Anyways, Nas is a far better rapper than Kendrick and is just as good of a writer (better probably, at least up until TPAB since GKMC really isn't that impressive lyrically aside for a few verses/tracks at most, and even then it would be a tie).
Doesn't really matter that he isn't building albums as cohesive/concept centered as Kendrick when he made Illmatic and has 20+ years of creative showings to stack up along with it.
 
Kendrick has one of the best discography's of any rapper to ever live with two classic albums, one really good album, and one great album with only one dud and that was his first album. He currently has a bit of sustained success, he has the numbers, he has the talent, what doesn't he have to be top 5 all time?

He's my number 2 favorite rapper all time rn.

First, his first album is better than GKMC and TPAB, havent heard Damn just yet. Also it is still too early to call those classics, more time has to pass. lets see how he finishes his career or wait more years to see where he ends up.

Eminem sucks, Jared Leto sucks, Requiem for a Dream sucks

Eminem is great, what's wrong?
 

LionPride

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First, his first album is better than GKMC and TPAB, havent heard Damn just yet. Also it is still too early to call those classics, more time has to pass. lets see how he finishes his career or wait more years to see where he ends up.



Eminem is great, what's wrong?

1. His first album is OD, which is trash, second, GKMC and TPAB are seen as classics in not only Rap but also music as a whole with one of the albums having a song that was the song of a fucking movement.

2. Again, they are already classics.

3. Eminem is shit, hasn't released good music in over 10 years

4. Call me when he's relevant and means something to someone who isn't a edgy white boy
 
1. His first album is OD, which is trash, second, GKMC and TPAB are seen as classics in not only Rap but also music as a whole with one of the albums having a song that was the song of a fucking movement.

2. Again, they are already classics.

3. Eminem is shit, hasn't released good music in over 10 years

4. Call me when he's relevant and means something to someone who isn't a edgy white boy

How is OD bad? It's his best album by far. Also even if Eminem didn't release anything good in that long you still need to take into consideration his earlier work. Why would it matter if someone is relevant or not? I only care about good music, not who is popular.
 
I like MMLP and Eminem Show. enjoy them more than TPAB even though neither album is better than it lyrically and conceptually.

but I like Section 80 and GKMC more than any eminem album too.

he's a cornball and some of his more violent lyrics have aged so poorly but he was still once a great artist imo.

also Requiem for a Dream is meh, haven't been too hot on Aronofksy movies tbh outside of Fountain and The Wrestler. those were dope.
 

LionPride

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How is OD bad? It's his best album by far. Also even if Eminem didn't release anything good in that long you still need to take into consideration his earlier work. Why would it matter if someone is relevant or not? I only care about good music, not who is popular.
Overly Dedicated is a shitty album, no good songs, nothing memorable, and overall bad. You are the only human being to ever exist who thinks that it's his best album. You are a heavy outlier, like, you shouldn't/don't exist levels.

Eminem hasn't been good since 2003, he's still releasing music in 2017. In 14 years he has been shit and you can argue he was shit beforehand because that edgy tryhard shit was corny back then too. We get it, you hate your wife, nigga no one cares.
 

xHiryu

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requiem for a dream is a shitty movie. it starts out with all these drug addicts, and then they get more addicted to drugs, and then the movie ends. great. solid arc. the entire movie could be cut in to a 20 minute PSA that ends with a title card that says DRUGS ARE BAD. like, fuck, we get it. at least with trainspotting you care about the characters, and they fucking do things. requiem for a dream is just a stupid, nihlistic movie that is not nearly as deep as it thinks it is.

darren aranofsky did make the wrestler and black swan tho. those movies good.

overrated as fuck, the acting is what saves it imo
 

HiResDes

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All I have to say is fuck Nasir Jones

That is all
Fuck your opinion breh, shit on rappers who single handedly spurred a stylistic change in rap and ushered in a decade of glorious East Coast dungeon rap. Even if every other Nas album was garbage, the legacy behind Illmatic is so powerful he'd still be catapulted into the upper echelon of rap royalty. It's his golden goose, It Was Written was great, Stillmatic was good but honestly he's cemented in the top five because that album was that good. It has songs that have been featured in countless films, its lines have functioned as the linear notes for future rap careers spawning themes and album tracks in its wake. So fuckouttahere with this fuck Nas bullshit.

new joker dude is not a good actor. was awful in dallas buyer's club, which also sucked
Jared Leto was incredible in Dallas Buyer's Club, was great in Mr. Nobody, American Psycho, and Lord of War.
 
Fuck your opinion breh, shit on rappers who single handedly spurred a stylistic change in rap and ushered in a decade of glorious East Coast dungeon rap. Even if every other Nas album was garbage, the legacy behind Illmatic is so powerful he'd still be catapulted into the upper echelon of rap royalty. It's his golden goose, It Was Written was great, Stillmatic was good but honestly he's cemented in the top five because that album was that good. It has songs that have been featured in countless films, it's lines have functioned as the linear notes for future rap careers spawning themes and album tracks in its wake. So fuckouttahere with this fuck Nas bullshit.


Jared Leto was incredible in Dallas Buyer's Club, was great in Mr. Nobody, American Psycho, and Lord of War.

bless up to this whole post.
 

LionPride

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Fuck your opinion breh, shit on rappers who single handedly spurred a stylistic change in rap and ushered in a decade of glorious East Coast dungeon rap. Even if every other Nas album was garbage, the legacy behind Illmatic is so powerful he'd still be catapulted into the upper echelon of rap royalty. It's his golden goose, It Was Written was great, Stillmatic was good but honestly he's cemented in the top five because that album was that good. It has songs that have been featured in countless films, it's lines have functioned as the linear notes for future rap careers spawning themes and album tracks in its wake. So fuckouttahere with this fuck Nas bullshit.
Nigga I don't give a fuck about what change he did, he ain't have a single fucking good album! None, zero, zip! Nigga's trash as fuck

So I repeat

Fuck Nas
 
Most agree that Nas is the greatest or one of the greatest so like you say your opinion doesn't matter
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I know people have their own opinion but I literally can't fathom or comprehend how someone can't like Nas.
 

LionPride

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Most agree that Nas is the greatest or one of the greatest so like you say your opinion doesn't matter
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I know people have their own opinion but I literally can't fathom or comprehend how someone can't like Nas.

I have listened to every Nas album, and said fuck that he ain't that good. I don't like him.

And if we talking bout opinions that don't matter...you and disco pretty high up there
 
man shut the hell up. i never mention you and your trash posts and yet you constantly feel the need to call me out.

nobody likes you dude. you're obnoxious. your posts are shit. disagreeing and not liking Nas is understandable, but you take shit to the next level with your garbage opinions.
 

LionPride

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man shut the hell up. i never mention you and your trash posts and yet you constantly feel the need to call me out.

nobody likes you dude. you're obnoxious. your posts are shit. disagreeing and not liking Nas is understandable, but you take shit to the next level with your garbage opinions.

Nigga it's a fucking message board, people liking me ain't exactly something I care about, you wanna talk about shit posts though? That's on you bruh man, you wanna talk about garbage fucking opinions? You got em too man. You ain't immune. I like the music I like and I dislike what I dislike, but if you wanna fucking get serious with this shit then so be it.
 
This is going to end up in a ban one way or another, so calm the fuck down both of you.

Seriously, it's a message board, just ignore list one another and be done with it.
 

LionPride

Banned
This is going to end up in a ban one way or another, so calm the fuck down both of you.

Seriously, it's a message board, just ignore list one another and be done with it.

I don't put people I dislike on an ignore list, what's the point? LMAO It's a fucking message board, shit ain't that fucking deep. Never is. It's random fucking people on a server shootin the shit.
 

HiResDes

Member
I mean you can troll while sharing an honest opinion it's all about how it's presented...And trolling is fine and at all but if it's not funny it starts to become asinine and pointless.
 

LionPride

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I mean you can troll while sharing an honest opinion it's all about how it's presented...And trolling is fine and at all but if it's not funny it starts to become asinine and pointless.
Only people I purposefully fuck with, are in the BCT and that's only with the Nas and Tupac thing. I don't really give two shits about disco if we bein real, but obviously it got him feeling some type of way, lol.
 

enzo_gt

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RE: Kendrick Top 5 discussion: Whatever y'all do, don't watch the latest video of Rosenberg talking about Kendrick's DAMN. on Hot97's YouTube. There are some claims people make that cannot be taken back. We need a stronger word for stannery after this.
 

Koozek

Member
LOL, what have I done.


Anyway, just deleted my huge-ass responses. You made me think about it some more. Maybe I take it back (partially at least). Let's talk about this again in a few years or so, lol.
 

LionPride

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RE: Kendrick Top 5 discussion: Whatever y'all do, don't watch the latest video of Rosenberg talking about Kendrick's DAMN. on Hot97's YouTube. There are some claims people make that cannot be taken back. We need a stronger word for stannery after this.

What that fucker say? I don't like his ass for various reasons, but I needs ta know
 

Dereck

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RE: Kendrick Top 5 discussion: Whatever y'all do, don't watch the latest video of Rosenberg talking about Kendrick's DAMN. on Hot97's YouTube. There are some claims people make that cannot be taken back. We need a stronger word for stannery after this.
I thought he was joking actually
 

HiResDes

Member
So you're not supposed to share a little passion for rap and rap artists in a hip hop thread now? Stop with the fake laissez-faire attitude you wouldn't respond so swiftly every fucking time if you didn't LionPride
 

LionPride

Banned
So you're not supposed to share a little passion for rap and rap artists in a hip hop thread now? Stop with the fake laissez-faire attitude you wouldn't respond so swiftly every fucking time if you didn't LionPride

I care about the artists I care about, I will do my duty as a citizen and say fuck Nas when I must, and of course, not care bout artists I don't care bout. Unless it's J. Cole because fuck him he is awful
 

Icolin

Banned
only thing good about requiem for a dream is the soundtrack and ass 2 ass

Nah bruh. Shit is tight as fuck all around like all of Aronofsky's movies.

also Requiem for a Dream is meh, haven't been too hot on Aronofksy movies tbh outside of Fountain and The Wrestler. those were dope.

Just when I considered you to have some of the best takes on movies on GAF, you drop this garbage. Put some respek on Black Swan.
 
honestly, kendrick is top 5. he's prob #5 on the top 5 list, but he's proven himself. like honestly, what's the real ranking here?

5 - kendrick
4 - kanye
3 - jay z
2 - nas
1 - tupac / biggie

like maybe not in that order but in terms of rapping, albums, and overall cultural footprint, that gotta be a more or less concrete list right?
 
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