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[Linkhero1]

Fuck. It doesn't work.

The game boots fine with Gecko, but I still can't connect two Wiimotes when I'm in the game. All the other games on my hard drive work, and let me use two wiimotes just fine.

Does anyone else have this problem? Is there anyway to legitimately play off of the disc and bypass the update?

I remember having this problem with NSMBW, I think. Can't remember, though.

Anyone know what I have to do? I really want to play this with a friend.

I've had issues connecting my wiimotes to my Wii too.

Make sure when you're connecting the wiimote you press the red button on the back of the wiimote first and then the red button on your wii to sync them. If it doesn't work I'm not really sure what the problem is but I doubt it has anything to do with the game itself.

 

[Mejilan]

Yay, Wii Shop channel is back.

 

[Dacvak]

Not sure why, but plugging a Gamecube controller into P2 allowed me to connect a second Wiimote. Probably the strangest fix ever, but hey, it worked.

 

[Drkirby]

Well, the laser is pretty much the only component in the drive that can break (well, the spinning mechanism can too, I guess), so there's probably no point in distinguishing between the two...

My Wiis disc motor died on me in the past, so it can break. Such a sad sound too when it happened, and just after I finished 'fixing' it (The metal bar that keep the disc in got bent and kept full sized Wii games from spinning, I bent it backed, but then the whole thing just died.)

 

[Clipper]

Does anyone else have this problem? Is there anyway to legitimately play off of the disc and bypass the update?

A few other things to try that aren't your Gamecube idea:

Use the disc booting option in Configurable. By default, it's accessible via the main menu by pushing -.

Or, follow PART1 of the upgrade steps of the tutorial. That is the only dangerous part of the upgrade on the disc. By doing that first, anything else it needs to update is safe.

 

[Nemesis_]

So I just got a microSD card which is 16gb in the mail, however upon putting it in my Wii (via an SD adaptor) it won't read properly. I was previously using a 2gb microSD card.

I load up HBC, and nothing appears on it, it just stays blank. Any ideas? Can the Wii not read anything above a certain amount?

 

[Clipper]

So I just got a microSD card which is 16gb in the mail, however upon putting it in my Wii (via an SD adaptor) it won't read properly. I was previously using a 2gb microSD card.

I load up HBC, and nothing appears on it, it just stays blank. Any ideas? Can the Wii not read anything above a certain amount?

Certain cards won't work. However, there are a few more things to try before you give up entirely on the catd. Try reformatting the card to FAT32 (even if it already is FAT32). If the card has any additional partitions or encryption features or anything, try to disable and/or remove them.

 

[Osuwari]

i'm having a problem with the shop channel update.

i used both programs to update it but the update process fails because i get a "hash BAD" error that makes the application end and then it takes me back to the HBC.
i want to play some mario tennis but this thing decided to fail on me now.

 

[Clipper]

i'm having a problem with the shop channel update.

i used both programs to update it but the update process fails because i get a "hash BAD" error that makes the application end and then it takes me back to the HBC.
i want to play some mario tennis but this thing decided to fail on me now.

You can try a non-online version.

You need to place the files for the shop in sd:/00010002/48414241/v19. You can download them with NUS Downloader. You will also need the files for IOS61 v5661. Instructions for both are as follows:

1. Select title ID 0001000248414241 v19
2. Ensure the Pack->WAD option is NOT checked
3. Click Start NUS Download!
4. Copy the contents of <NUSD_dir>/0001000248414241v19/ to sd:/00010002/48414241/v19/
5. Select title ID 000000010000003D v5661
6. Ensure the Pack->WAD option is NOT checked
7. Click Start NUS Download!
8. Copy the contents of <NUSD_dir>/000000010000003Cv6174/ to sd:/00000001/0000003D/v5661/
9. Follow the instructions for Method 2 (Dop-Shop) on the Wii Shop Upgrade page.

 

[nincompoop]

Is loading homebrew through a hard drive supposed to be slow compared to SD? I got my HD a few months ago but I was still loading all my homebrew through my SD card, but now I decided to try loading the latest version of DOSBOX from the HD since I have all my DOS games backed up on my HD and I don't know if you can edit the dosbox.conf file to point to the HD while running it from the SD. Anyway, when I start DOSBOX from the SD card it boots right into my DOS Navigator program where I can browse through and run my games (from my SD card) with minimal loading, but when running from the HD it took a while just to bring up the navigator, then it took even longer to browse through different directories (on my HD) and I tried starting a game but gave up after waiting for several minutes (the home menu still worked, so I know the program didn't crash). I was just wondering if this problem is due to DOSBox itself, or if there are know issues with running homebrew programs from HD in general.

 

[Mejilan]

Well, my trusty 2GB standard SD card is finally filled to capacity.
13 or 14 pages into my SD Card channel, too.

I've got a bunch of Sandisk microSD cards, 2, 4, and 8GB ones.
Does anyone know if they'll work decently well with Wii games and Wii homebrew when in Kingston or Sandisk adapters?

I tried purchasing 4 Wii games last night, and it finally gave up at Mario Tennis. Too big.

 

[Osuwari]

You can try a non-online version.

You need to place the files for the shop in sd:/00010002/48414241/v19. You can download them with NUS Downloader. You will also need the files for IOS61 v5661. Instructions for both are as follows:

1. Select title ID 0001000248414241 v19
2. Ensure the Pack->WAD option is NOT checked
3. Click Start NUS Download!
4. Copy the contents of <NUSD_dir>/0001000248414241v19/ to sd:/00010002/48414241/v19/
5. Select title ID 000000010000003D v5661
6. Ensure the Pack->WAD option is NOT checked
7. Click Start NUS Download!
8. Copy the contents of <NUSD_dir>/000000010000003Cv6174/ to sd:/00000001/0000003D/v5661/
9. Follow the instructions for Method 2 (Dop-Shop) on the Wii Shop Upgrade page.

i followed the instructions perfectly and i got the same error at the same place as before..
oh well, seems i won't be able to use the shop for a while.
is there a diffference if i still have an old system menu installed? i never updated from 3.2U since i only keep the VC games i use regularly on the NAND.

 

[Clipper]

Is loading homebrew through a hard drive supposed to be slow compared to SD? I got my HD a few months ago but I was still loading all my homebrew through my SD card, but now I decided to try loading the latest version of DOSBOX from the HD since I have all my DOS games backed up on my HD and I don't know if you can edit the dosbox.conf file to point to the HD while running it from the SD. Anyway, when I start DOSBOX from the SD card it boots right into my DOS Navigator program where I can browse through and run my games (from my SD card) with minimal loading, but when running from the HD it took a while just to bring up the navigator, then it took even longer to browse through different directories (on my HD) and I tried starting a game but gave up after waiting for several minutes (the home menu still worked, so I know the program didn't crash). I was just wondering if this problem is due to DOSBox itself, or if there are know issues with running homebrew programs from HD in general.

HD stuff is usually faster than SD. I would guess the problem may be related to DOSBox.

Well, my trusty 2GB standard SD card is finally filled to capacity.
13 or 14 pages into my SD Card channel, too.

I've got a bunch of Sandisk microSD cards, 2, 4, and 8GB ones.
Does anyone know if they'll work decently well with Wii games and Wii homebrew when in Kingston or Sandisk adapters?

I tried purchasing 4 Wii games last night, and it finally gave up at Mario Tennis. Too big.

They should work fine. Just make sure you have IOS249 and Cfg up to date.

i followed the instructions perfectly and i got the same error at the same place as before..
oh well, seems i won't be able to use the shop for a while.
is there a diffference if i still have an old system menu installed? i never updated from 3.2U since i only keep the VC games i use regularly on the NAND.

Strange. It might be the 3.2 thing. Perhaps an upgrade is needed after all. Follow method 3 of the upgrade steps (or method 1 if you own Super Mario Galaxy 2 from your region) if you want to try out 4.2.

It might also help to install IOS61 and the shop in the alternate order, maybe?

 

[Clipper]

Woo! An exploit has been found that makes TBR workable on its own again on virgin 4.3 Wiis. Thus, we only need to wait until the new HBC is ready to have everything.

The new exploit is simply installing a Korean-only IOS in a slot that Nintendo has left vacant on non-Korean Wiis.

The only issue is that BannerBomb is still dead for the time being. Thus, you will need Lego Indiana Jones (US/PAL) or Super Smash Bros. Brawl (US-only) in order to get HBC onto a virgin Wii. Japanese and Korean virgin 4.3 Wiis are currently unhackable.

 

[Shotgun Kiss]

Hey, I'm looking at installing 4.3 to my Wii via the WiiSCU method.

Since I've never installed firmware via unoifficial means before, I was just wondering what might I have to do when 4.4 comes along. I'm assuming that upgrading via regular means is no longer a viable option, and I just use the same bypass methods from now on?

Thanks.

 

[Clipper]

Hey, I'm looking at installing 4.3 to my Wii via the WiiSCU method.

Since I've never installed firmware via unoifficial means before, I was just wondering what might I have to do when 4.4 comes along. I'm assuming that upgrading via regular means is no longer a viable option, and I just use the same bypass methods from now on?

Thanks.

Do not upgrade to 4.3. You will lose the HBC. Upgrade to 4.2 at the most. There are methods to do that in the GWHT.

 

[TouchMyBox]

So I just installed HBC for the first time, what is the most impressive shit I can do with this now? Are there any awesome homebrew games?

 

[Dragmire]

So I just installed HBC for the first time, what is the most impressive shit I can do with this now? Are there any awesome homebrew games?

If you have any classic Lucasarts or Sierra games, you can play them on Wii with ScummVM (and some others). Same with DOS games and Dosbox. You can play media with Wii Media Center, import games with Gecko, you can play Brawl +, and there's lots of homebrew to try out. Not a lot of great homebrew games, but some are enjoyable.

 

[theultimo]

So I just installed HBC for the first time, what is the most impressive shit I can do with this now? Are there any awesome homebrew games?

Take a look at the Home Brew Browser It is a fully automated Browser specifically for homebrew.

 

[Sir Ilpalazzo]

When the HBC is updated, will getting to 4.3 just be a matter of getting a new HBC through the Homebrew Browser, then getting the update from Nintendo?

 

[Jzero]

If you have any classic Lucasarts or Sierra games, you can play them on Wii with ScummVM (and some others). Same with DOS games and Dosbox. You can play media with Wii Media Center, import games with Gecko, you can play Brawl +, and there's lots of homebrew to try out. Not a lot of great homebrew games, but some are enjoyable.

i just downloaded brawl+ what exactly does it do besides changing the order of evrything and infinite zoom?

 

[Clipper]

When the HBC is updated, will getting to 4.3 just be a matter of getting a new HBC through the Homebrew Browser, then getting the update from Nintendo?

If you are on 4.2, then just stay there. There is no need to go to 4.3 even once the HBC is released. And no, it doesn't use the Homebrew Browser. The HBC will detect the update and ask you to install it itself. Alternatively, you can just run the new installer using the HBC.

 

[EatChildren]

So, just to clarify, the main problem of 4.3 is that it removes the HBC yeah? What about the USB loader IOS?

 

[Stumpokapow]

So I just installed HBC for the first time, what is the most impressive shit I can do with this now? Are there any awesome homebrew games?

Snes9xGX, USB Loader, ScumMVM, WiiMC (if you don't have a better media device), DOSBox Wii.

 

[Wizpig]

All the Mii channels, Internet channel etc. still work with 4.2, right?
I just have to update one channel; the Wii Shop, y/n?

(Will do it today)

 

[Sir Ilpalazzo]

If you are on 4.2, then just stay there. There is no need to go to 4.3 even once the HBC is released. And no, it doesn't use the Homebrew Browser. The HBC will detect the update and ask you to install it itself. Alternatively, you can just run the new installer using the HBC.

Okay, thank you. I do want to use the shop and I don't want to risk using the shop installers, so I'm fine with waiting.

 

[Clipper]

So, just to clarify, the main problem of 4.3 is that it removes the HBC yeah? What about the USB loader IOS?

It does the same stuff 4.2 does with the IOSes (attempts to stub them and fails to stub 250).

All the Mii channels, Internet channel etc. still work with 4.2, right?
I just have to update one channel; the Wii Shop, y/n?

(Will do it today)

Yes, only the Shop Channel was updated.

Okay, thank you. I do want to use the shop and I don't want to risk using the shop installers, so I'm fine with waiting.

There is no danger at all to the shop installers if you follow the instructions in the GWHT, so there is no real risk.

 

[Sir Ilpalazzo]

So the only thing that's dangerous about doing it, not counting the possibility of losing my internet during the download process, is messing with an IOS that I don't need to anyway?

If I were to update later on, having that version of the shop channel doesn't pose any risk, does it?

 

[NewFresh]

Ok....so i updated my Wii using Waninkokos Firmware Updater 4.3b; It seemed like everything went smoothly. I tried out my USBLoader and WiiMC channels and they ran fine. The problem occurred when I tried to run the HomeBrew Channel I get a black screen and nothing else; Wii freezes on black screen and I need to do a hard reset.

I have an old nand (pre-update) so I am not that worried, but I don't want to lose some of my most recent saves that are tied to the system and can not be moved to an sd card.

 

[pje122]

So I guess that's why you don't update to 4.3.

 

[Jzero]

let me refrase that, how do i use custom textures with Brawl+

 

[NewFresh]

So I guess that's why you don't update to 4.3.

I wasn't going to but when Waninkoko released an update i figured why not?.

But anyone have any ideas how to fix this.

 

[Mejilan]

So I guess that's why you don't update to 4.3.

No, that's why you don't run a Wanin updater! :lol

 

[NewFresh]

I ended up fixing it by using a slightly different version of this fix

 

[Clipper]

Yes, that was a great lesson for everyone. Never use a Wanin updater. In fact, never use any tool released by Wanin unless it is officially sanctioned by the GWHT.

His updaters in particular are typically useless piles of crap laden with a bunch of hacks you will never need, including the 4.3 series.

 

[hokahey]

If I import a Wii game will I just need to load it through Gecko to get it to work?

 

[Clipper]

Gecko OS will load most import games, but not all. All the region free techniques I recommend are in the tutorial.

 

[nincompoop]

WiiSX Beta 2 is out, but it's kind of useless since the developers refuse to add USB 2.0 support for some lame reason. Hopefully an unofficial release comes out soon with USB 2.0 support added.

 

[Kilrogg]

WiiSX Beta 2 is out, but it's kind of useless since the developers refuse to add USB 2.0 support for some lame reason. Hopefully an unofficial release comes out soon with USB 2.0 support added.

From the comments section:

No, we will support USB2.0 when it is added to libogc and doesn’t rely on cIOS. (This should be happening sometime soon…)

 

[nincompoop]

From the comments section:

Well we won't have to wait for that since WiiSX Beta 2 USB 2.0 MOD is out! I'll test it out tomorrow. Though from reading comments it seems like Classic Controller support is kind of broken (in both the official version and the mod), so I might wait for someone to fix it since the GC pad kind of sucks for emulating the PSX controller's button layout.

 

[Shotgun Kiss]

Do not upgrade to 4.3. You will lose the HBC. Upgrade to 4.2 at the most. There are methods to do that in the GWHT.

But I'm currently on 4.2E (I don't know what the E means), and I can't access the Wii Shop channel. Can I not just update using the WiiSCU method on this page?

 

[Datschge]

Can I not just update using the WiiSCU method on this page?

Right, from this thread people should go to:

There you get to know how to update the Wii Shop without breaking anything.

 

[nincompoop]

WiiSX beta 2 seems slower than beta 1 for me for some reason... the only game I tried in beta 1 was Crash Bandicoot 2 and I remember it running at around 50-70 fps... so I tried it in Beta 2 and now it's only running at 30-50 (using dynarec)?!?! I'm also getting a similarly lousy performance out of Symphony of the Night even though you wouldn't expect it to be as demanding as Crash 2. I don't know if my settings are messed up or what.

 

[Shotgun Kiss]

Right, from this thread people should go to:

There you get to know how to update the Wii Shop without breaking anything.

I'm just confused because I originally asked if I should update using the WiiSCU method that I found on that very page. Clipper said not to update to 4.3, but then referred me back to the GHWT. If the WiiSCU method there is what I need to use, then I'm just curious as to where does "don't update to 4.3" factors in. It just made me think I was looking at the wrong thing. I'm sure it's probably just a misunderstanding or something, but it just confused me.

Also, I'm assuming that the "E" in "4.2E" means that it's an early version of 4.2, and that's why I still have to update, right?

Thanks.

 

[daakusedo]

When we will have to update to 4.3, what will be the better solution?
I remember using a wan updater but for 4.3 it doesn't work for me.

 

[samratty]

I'm just confused because I originally came into this topic asking if I should update using the WiiSCU method listed on that very page. I was told not to update to 4.3, and directed straight back to the very same page. If the WiiSCU method there is fine, then where does "don't update to 4.3" factor in? I just couldn't tell if Clipper's reply was a confirmation or not, as sounded like I was looking at the wrong thing.

Also, I'm assuming that 4.2E is below 4.2?

Thanks.

E means Europe. 4.2 is 4.2.

If you want to have access to the shop just follow the guide, i.e. use WiiSCU or Dop-Shop, as you mentioned. This is not the same as updating to 4.3, which you DO NOT want to do.

 

[samratty]

When we will have to update to 4.3, what will be the better solution?
I remember using a wan updater but for 4.3 it doesn't work for me.

You might not have to at all, or for a long long time. You can stop the disc menu from looking for updates (or install to USB), and you can install the relevant IOS to boot games post 4.3.

I'm sure someone will come up with a good safe updater at some point, but it's relatively pointless at the moment.

 

[Shotgun Kiss]

E means Europe. 4.2 is 4.2.

If you want to have access to the shop just follow the guide, i.e. use WiiSCU or Dop-Shop, as you mentioned. This is not the same as updating to 4.3, which you DO NOT want to do.

Ah, gotcha. Clipper was probably just throwing out "don't update to 4.3" on an unrelated note (probably because I kept using terms like "update" and the like), but since it was in response to my asking if WiiSCU was what I needed to use, I misinterpreted it.

Thanks a lot.

 

[Clipper]

About safe updating, if there was a reason to have one for 4.3, I'd already have released it. I doube there ever will be a reason as well, as it is much better to simply update to 4.2 and then upgrade the shop.

Ah, gotcha. Clipper was probably just throwing out "don't update to 4.3" on an unrelated note (probably because I kept using terms like "update" and the like), but since it was in response to my asking if WiiSCU was what I needed to use, I misinterpreted it.

Thanks a lot.

Yeah, the thing with WiiSCU is that it does allow you to update more than just the shop. You originally just said you wanted to update to 4.3 using the WiiSCU method, which led me to understand you also wanted to update the firmware, which I was warning against.

What you want to do is what you were planning, but that is to upgrade to v19 of the Wii Shop. The firmware is not really involved in this, except for the fact that v19 of the shop released at the same time as firmware 4.3.

 

[Shotgun Kiss]

About safe updating, if there was a reason to have one for 4.3, I'd already have released it. I doube there ever will be a reason as well, as it is much better to simply update to 4.2 and then upgrade the shop.


Yeah, the thing with WiiSCU is that it does allow you to update more than just the shop. You originally just said you wanted to update to 4.3 using the WiiSCU method, which led me to understand you also wanted to update the firmware, which I was warning against.

What you want to do is what you were planning, but that is to upgrade to v19 of the Wii Shop. The firmware is not really involved in this, except for the fact that v19 of the shop released at the same time as firmware 4.3.

Great, thanks.