GAF Wii Homebrew thread: Homebrew, emulators, USB disc installs! Easy tutorial!

Clipper said:
DO NOT use that app. It is dangerous, installs a bunch of crap you don't need and could brick your Wii.

If you really want 4.3, the tutorial has a safe update method for it now.

You can also update the shop without the firmware using these methods.
Fair enough. I already found a shop updater so I'll just use that for now until I properly plan out how do the firmware update (Installing IOS's is always a pain).
 
Porthos said:
Same game or different ones? If one game, which one?
So far I only had problems with NSMB. I tried every different IOS wich are updated to the latest rev's. I'll try and delete the game and rip it again from my disc. Does anybody have any thoughts about this ?
 
euro stalker said:
So far I only had problems with NSMB. I tried every different IOS wich are updated to the latest rev's. I'll try and delete the game and rip it again from my disc. Does anybody have any thoughts about this ?
NSMB makes the answer clear. Either you are using a poor or very old loader, or you have disabled the NSMB patch.

What loader are you using?
 
What does the latest Homebrew Channel update do? Can I update that, and then update to 4.3 via the official method without it deleting the Homebrew Channel?
 
Mafro said:
What does the latest Homebrew Channel update do? Can I update that, and then update to 4.3 via the official method without it deleting the Homebrew Channel?

The update circumvents Homebrew Channel from being deleted when you officially update to 4.3. It won't be deleted, but there's really no reason to update to 4.3 right now.
 
euro stalker said:
gfx usb loader
Try using cfg loader mentioned in the Wiki or update your loader. NSMB has a "security feature" that does something to the game after 10 minutes if not playing from the disk. I know cfg loader has a fix for this if you use the latest version.
 
Porthos said:
Try using cfg loader mentioned in the Wiki or update your loader. NSMB has a "security feature" that does something to the game after 10 minutes if not playing from the disk. I know cfg loader has a fix for this if you use the latest version.

thanks the cfg loader worked for me !
 
Slightly off-topic, but are you going to make a PS3 GAF wiki when the jigkick goes mainstream, Clipper? I really find these things helpful, but I dunno how involved with the PS3 scene you are (or want to be).
 
storl026 said:
The update circumvents Homebrew Channel from being deleted when you officially update to 4.3. It won't be deleted, but there's really no reason to update to 4.3 right now.
That's what I thought it did. I'll be getting Other M next week, and apparently it comes with the 4.3 update.
 
Just a question: whenever I try to play a Wii game through the disc drive, my Wii-mote turns off and the screen goes black although the system itself is still on. Is that a symptom of the drive itself being bad?
 
Clipper said:
Are you saying you have seen somewhere that it states it has the update? I haven't seen any info either way yet (apart from that it works with USB Loaders without errors).

Using a USB Loader to play the game would thus be the easiest way to get around the update.

If you want to play from the disc, then you either need to perform the steps to avoid disc updates, or to safely update with the disc. As long as you have the latest HBC and you have updated to boot2v4, then the update on the disc is actually safe.

Just a quick question. So, if Other M does have 4.3, I can still install it onto a hard drive? basically I'm asking if I would need 4.3 to install it, or if the usb loader bypasses it.

I was planning to use gecko but usb loader seems like it might be a better option. That is assuming the load times in Other M are as annoying as Prime 3! damn stuck doors!
 
Dragona Akehi said:
Slightly off-topic, but are you going to make a PS3 GAF wiki when the jigkick goes mainstream, Clipper? I really find these things helpful, but I dunno how involved with the PS3 scene you are (or want to be).
I'd like to, but I don't feel like buying a second PS3, and I bought Playstation Plus, so there is no way I'd test it on my PS3 now. Thus, I won't run such a site, but I have no problem if anybody wants help setting one up, or even using the GWHT as a dual site.

Mafro said:
That's what I thought it did. I'll be getting Other M next week, and apparently it comes with the 4.3 update.
It actually is more than a 4.3 update, killing the 4.3 exploit that we were using up until a week or two ago. In any case, running the 4.3 update either via the Other M disc or online is safe after you have updated the HBC and boot2 according to the instructions in the GWHT.

LovingSteam said:
Just a question: whenever I try to play a Wii game through the disc drive, my Wii-mote turns off and the screen goes black although the system itself is still on. Is that a symptom of the drive itself being bad?
So can you rip games from the drive using Cfg? If so, your drive is fine and it sounds like you've installed some naughty stuff that has broken your disc channel. If not, then your drive is probably dead.

Linkzg said:
Just a quick question. So, if Other M does have 4.3, I can still install it onto a hard drive? basically I'm asking if I would need 4.3 to install it, or if the usb loader bypasses it.

I was planning to use gecko but usb loader seems like it might be a better option. That is assuming the load times in Other M are as annoying as Prime 3! damn stuck doors!
Any USB Loader will bypass the update, yes.
 
Clipper said:
So can you rip games from the drive using Cfg? If so, your drive is fine and it sounds like you've installed some naughty stuff that has broken your disc channel. If not, then your drive is probably dead.

Cfg? Not sure what that means. I just tried playing SMG2 through the back up app and it gives me the blue screen with error #002. I was able update the homebrew channel and homebrew explorer app. Also my Wii read one of my regular DVD movies through Mplayer so I'm not sure if that is significant with it playing Wii discs.
 
Clipper said:
For anybody that was worrying, those damn pirates have let us know that Metroid:Other M is working fine without any modifications. No definitive word yet on whether it contains the 4.3 update, though.
What the fuck? They got a hold of that game already? Why am I so surprised? =/

This question has probably been answered several times and I'll probably get raged at for it but -- is there any noteable new features in 4.3? My wii is softmodded so I probably won't update but I'm kind of curious.
 
Clipper, so I just installed neogamma and it apparently has the #002 fix so my Galaxy 2 is working :) Although I'm curious why I can't run it through the regular Wii disc channel.
 
Do I have to re-install Bootmii every time I update the HBC? (I understand it's some kind of backup, so wouldn't it be enough to do it once?)
 
LovingSteam said:
Clipper, so I just installed neogamma and it apparently has the #002 fix so my Galaxy 2 is working :) Although I'm curious why I can't run it through the regular Wii disc channel.
I'm confused. Are you using a real disc or backup disc for this?

spindashing said:
What the fuck? They got a hold of that game already? Why am I so surprised? =/

This question has probably been answered several times and I'll probably get raged at for it but -- is there any noteable new features in 4.3? My wii is softmodded so I probably won't update but I'm kind of curious.
It adds nothing except attempts to stop homebrew. So there are absolutely zero useful features.

schennmu said:
Do I have to re-install Bootmii every time I update the HBC? (I understand it's some kind of backup, so wouldn't it be enough to do it once?)
You have to reinstall BootMii every time you install the HBC after Nintendo blocks it, but only if you want BootMii to be able to launch the HBC. In each recent update, Nintendo deletes the channel IDs that the HBC has been using, so they have to come up with a new one. BootMii needs to know the new channel ID for it to be able to launch the HBC.

Thus, you don't need to update every time. E.g., the recent release of HBC 1.0.8 left BootMii as is, so you wouldn't need to update if you had already gotten 1.0.7.
 
Clipper said:
You have to reinstall BootMii every time you install the HBC after Nintendo blocks it, but only if you want BootMii to be able to launch the HBC. In each recent update, Nintendo deletes the channel IDs that the HBC has been using, so they have to come up with a new one. BootMii needs to know the new channel ID for it to be able to launch the HBC.

I don't fully understand this. Do you mean BootMii is able to run the HBC in case of a brick or is BootMii generally necessary to use the HBC? (sorry for being a noob)
Clipper said:
Thus, you don't need to update every time. E.g., the recent release of HBC 1.0.8 left BootMii as is, so you wouldn't need to update if you had already gotten 1.0.7.

I see.
 
Clipper said:
It actually is more than a 4.3 update, killing the 4.3 exploit that we were using up until a week or two ago. In any case, running the 4.3 update either via the Other M disc or online is safe after you have updated the HBC and boot2 according to the instructions in the GWHT.

Shiiiit, am I screwed if I haven't ever installed homebrew and if I updated to 4.3 a week ago?
 
LovingSteam said:
Real disc. I haven't backed up any discs since I don't have an external HDD yet.
What firmware version are you on and how did you get to that version? Have you disabled disc updates? It's possible you might be missing an IOS that SMG 2 needs to run, but I think that's only possible if you haven't updated in a very long time.

schennmu said:
I don't fully understand this. Do you mean BootMii is able to run the HBC in case of a brick or is BootMii generally necessary to use the HBC? (sorry for being a noob)
Understanding is a very good thing to have, so don't feel bad (unless the question is already directly answered on the GWHT).

If your Wii is old enough that you can have BootMii installed as boot2, then it can launch the HBC via its HBC option, or you can even set your Wii to autoboot to the HBC on power up. If you can only install BootMii as an IOS, then you don't really have a need for those features as you have to use the HBC to launch BootMii.

The issue here is that BootMii needs to know the ID of the HBC to launch it. Previous IDs have been the ASCII HAXX and JODI, and the latest is a non-ASCII hex string 0xAF1BF516. Thus, whenever they change the ID of the HBC, they release a new BootMii that knows the new ID. Those are the times that you should definitely update BootMii.

Gravijah said:
Shiiiit, am I screwed if I haven't ever installed homebrew and if I updated to 4.3 a week ago?
No, you aren't screwed, but you made things a little bit harder for yourself. The tutorial has methods to help you. However, you now require to buy or rent certain games (you didn't before updating). If your Wii is PAL, you need Lego Indiana Jones. If your Wii is US, you need either Lego Indiana Jones or Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Instructions are in the tutorial:

 
Clipper said:
What firmware version are you on and how did you get to that version? Have you disabled disc updates? It's possible you might be missing an IOS that SMG 2 needs to run, but I think that's only possible if you haven't updated in a very long time.

Hmm, I haven't even turned on my Wii in at least 9 months. Whats weird is that I received SMG2 back in June and was playing it with no problems. Then about 3 weeks ago I turned my Wii on (I hadn't added or removed anything up to that point) and SMG2 wouldn't load.
 
LovingSteam said:
Hmm, I haven't even turned on my Wii in at least 9 months. Whats weird is that I received SMG2 back in June and was playing it with no problems. Then about 3 weeks ago I turned my Wii on (I hadn't added or removed anything up to that point) and SMG2 wouldn't load.
Uh, you haven't turned on your Wii in 9 months, but you were playing in June?

In any case, if it was playing before and not now and you haven't installed anything, that's an indication that your Wii could be dying, yes. However, check the disc for dirt or scratches. Perhaps it's just the disc.
 
Clipper said:
No, you aren't screwed, but you made things a little bit harder for yourself. The tutorial has methods to help you. However, you now require to buy or rent certain games (you didn't before updating). If your Wii is PAL, you need Lego Indiana Jones. If your Wii is US, you need either Lego Indiana Jones or Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Instructions are in the tutorial:


Phew, thank god I have Brawl around here somewhere.
 
Clipper said:
Uh, you haven't turned on your Wii in 9 months, but you were playing in June?

In any case, if it was playing before and not now and you haven't installed anything, that's an indication that your Wii could be dying, yes. However, check the disc for dirt or scratches. Perhaps it's just the disc.

Sorry, I meant 9 months before I played SMG2. Also, if it was my Wii then wouldn't it also have a problem reading it through NeoGamma? Through NeoGamma it loads perfectly.
 
Clipper said:
Understanding is a very good thing to have, so don't feel bad (unless the question is already directly answered on the GWHT).

If your Wii is old enough that you can have BootMii installed as boot2, then it can launch the HBC via its HBC option, or you can even set your Wii to autoboot to the HBC on power up. If you can only install BootMii as an IOS, then you don't really have a need for those features as you have to use the HBC to launch BootMii.

The issue here is that BootMii needs to know the ID of the HBC to launch it. Previous IDs have been the ASCII HAXX and JODI, and the latest is a non-ASCII hex string 0xAF1BF516. Thus, whenever they change the ID of the HBC, they release a new BootMii that knows the new ID. Those are the times that you should definitely update BootMii.

Awesome, thx for the explanation! :)
 
Clipper: Ah, well I can understand that sentiment. I just have to say that the GAF Wii Homebrew Wiki is an amazing resources and having one for all systems would really help weed out the chaff among apps. I'm so technically incompetent that I've really appreciated this thread and the wiki.

I didn't mean to put you on the spot there.
 
LovingSteam said:
Sorry, I meant 9 months before I played SMG2. Also, if it was my Wii then wouldn't it also have a problem reading it through NeoGamma? Through NeoGamma it loads perfectly.
It might only be the update partition on the SMG2 disc which is messed up, which NeoGamma won't check, but the Wii will. I can't think of anything else that would cause your problems, unless you have accidentally updated the Wii in the meantime without knowing it.
 
Clipper said:
It might only be the update partition on the SMG2 disc which is messed up, which NeoGamma won't check, but the Wii will. I can't think of anything else that would cause your problems, unless you have accidentally updated the Wii in the meantime without knowing it.

Nope. Is there a way to fix the update partition?
 
Clipper said:
Try to clean the disc or get a new one, I guess.

Do other games play fine? Have you tried playing SMG 2 again via the channel?

Don't have any other Wii games (traded them away since I wasn't using them) but I did try SMG2 again via the channel and still a no-go. BTW, thank you very much for your patience. I also installed IOS 236 via your Wiki. Thank you very much for all of your hard work and dedication to assisting so many of us. Greatly appreciated.
 
I just updated from cIOS 249(Rev 14) to Rev 20

Now when I load Config. USB Loader it says "Rev 20 [FRAG]"

What does the FRAG thing mean, is it a problem? Everything seems to be working OK.
 
handofg0d said:
I just updated from cIOS 249(Rev 14) to Rev 20

Now when I load Config. USB Loader it says "Rev 20 [FRAG]"

What does the FRAG thing mean, is it a problem? Everything seems to be working OK.
That's what allows you to use a FAT partitioned drive. It's absolutely normal.
 
Ah crap........

I was installing 236 and the hermes cIOS's tonight and something went wrong and when I would boot into HBC I get an "exception (dsi) has occurred!"

Now that seemed strange but I was able to reset the wii and go into system menu and then HBC, finished installing the IOS's but then I did something really dumb

I restarted the Wii which boots into Priiloader, and I was playing around in the settings and checked off auto-boot to the HBC

And now whenever I hit the power button I go right to the DSI exception screen and resetting is not taking me to the system menu =/

What do I do?



EDIT - Found out that you can hold reset during the boot cycle and load to priiloader..........so that issue is solved..........but the DSI exception is still occurring


Should I just use my nand backup? If so, how do I do that?
 
BigJonsson said:
Ah crap........

I was installing 236 and the hermes cIOS's tonight and something went wrong and when I would boot into HBC I get an "exception (dsi) has occurred!"

Now that seemed strange but I was able to reset the wii and go into system menu and then HBC, finished installing the IOS's but then I did something really dumb

I restarted the Wii which boots into Priiloader, and I was playing around in the settings and checked off auto-boot to the HBC

And now whenever I hit the power button I go right to the DSI exception screen and resetting is not taking me to the system menu =/

What do I do?



EDIT - Found out that you can hold reset during the boot cycle and load to priiloader..........so that issue is solved..........but the DSI exception is still occurring


Should I just use my nand backup? If so, how do I do that?

Use your NAND backup as a last resort.

Unplug both the SD card and the hard drive and see if you can launch the HBC. It may just be that you have some corrupted files in your apps directory/ies that is messing things up.

If that doesn't work, you could try reinstalling the HBC.
 
Clipper said:
Use your NAND backup as a last resort.

Unplug both the SD card and the hard drive and see if you can launch the HBC. It may just be that you have some corrupted files in your apps directory/ies that is messing things up.

If that doesn't work, you could try reinstalling the HBC.


re-installing HBC seems like the best option, guess I'll look at the Wiki later for instructions
 
I've tried installing the Hermes 222/223 stuff. My problem is it seems to crash at some point during the process on each one. Has anyone run into something like that before?
 
Now when I click on HBC from priiloader it says title not installed or deleted........

And when I click on system menu sometimes it goes right to the system menu and sometimes it gives me that DSI exception error

Everything else seems to be working so I'm not really that worried but it is an issue
 
Seems like a new version of Priiloader (v5) just came out. I won't be home to test it out for some hours yet, but I would imagine that the new 4.3-ready versions of HBC use a new title ID to get around Nintendo's updated (but still sad) security. If so, older Priiloaders would be pointing to the older HBC IDs and not the new one.

A brief glance at Priiloader v5's release notes suggests that it works with HBC again, and includes cool new features such as network updating and the elimination of the patched IOS or CIOS requirements.
 
Hmm...so my friend bought a Wii and managed to get homebrew working on his so I finally took the initiative to put it on mine.

I downloaded Hackmii v0.8 and installed the homebrew channel, however, I do not have the option to install DVDX. My only options are to install the homebrew channel and BootMii. I never even saw it as an option.

What gives? You need DVDX for certain homebrew do you not?

Edit: I was able to find and download v0.6 and it has DVDX included. Anyone know why they removed it? What exactly do you need DVDX for? Watching movies and whatnot?
 
hey guys,

my retail/legit gamecube discs don't work, i wanted to boot up prime and it just sits on a black screen. i'm on bootmii on boot2 i think, 4.0, and i use USB gx loader with IOS 249, IOS 222, they are def a few months out of date, but i only update when games don't work and have no problems with any games in a while. any thoughts?

thanks for the help.
 
They discontinued DVDX and, IIRC, rolled the functionality directly into the HBC. Most homebrew should have updated to accommodate the changes, by now. I think. I never actually used DVDX or anything that required it.
 
Chesskid1 said:
hey guys,

my retail/legit gamecube discs don't work, i wanted to boot up prime and it just sits on a black screen. i'm on bootmii on boot2 i think, 4.0, and i use USB gx loader with IOS 249, IOS 222, they are def a few months out of date, but i only update when games don't work and have no problems with any games in a while. any thoughts?

thanks for the help.
None of the stuff you mentioned would have affected your disc channel. Check the disc for dust. Also, you might want to try the disc launching code in Cfg or Gecko OS to see if that works.

Baron Aloha said:
Hmm...so my friend bought a Wii and managed to get homebrew working on his so I finally took the initiative to put it on mine.

I downloaded Hackmii v0.8 and installed the homebrew channel, however, I do not have the option to install DVDX. My only options are to install the homebrew channel and BootMii. I never even saw it as an option.

What gives? You need DVDX for certain homebrew do you not?
DVDX is dead and buried. It's functionality is now available through an alternative. You need to use the latest HBC and have your app support AHBPROT. You should also have IOS58 installed before you install HBC (or reinstall HBC after installing IOS58).
 
Is the DVD functionality any good? My experience with media playing on the Wii hasn't been so hot, so I don't want to go through the hassle of installing an IOS and app I'll never use :p. In particular, do dual-layered DVDs play properly?
 
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