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Seraphis Cain said:
So I've got a 1TB Seagate on the way from Staples (Black Friday woooooo). Planning on partitioning part of it as WBFS and joining the USB loader fun. Any general tips I should know when it comes to USB loading? And the spindown problem isn't an issue with Seagates, right? At least I think that's what I read. That little issue kept me from going with a Western Digital.

EDIT: Okay, I seem to recall reading something about FAT being possible now with USB Loaders. Is that recommended over WBFS? Are there any downsides? I can't see anything on the homebrew wiki about positives/negatives to using FAT.
There's really no downsides as far as I can tell. I'm sure Clipper will know better.
I consider it much much better than partitioning.
 
The only downside to FAT (really FAT32) is that it's still FAT32, so if you don't want to use the whole drive for Wii-related stuff you'd still need to partition it. Otherwise it's the better choice, since you can have all your homebrew apps, roms, and eventually (when the new version of RawkSD is done) Rock Band 2 DLC all stored on that same drive with no partitioning required.
 
http://www.staples.com/office/suppl...d=10001&catalogIdentifier=2&partNumber=827288

Okay, this is the hard drive I ordered. Some reviews say it works fine, others say it dies fairly quickly. And although the good reviews outnumber the bad, the bad ones all having the same problem for the most part kinda scares me. Also I'm not too big on having to keep it plugged into the wall for it to run. Kinda didn't realize it wasn't USB powered until after the order was processed. But I guess it's not a huge deal.

Anyway, what say you, GAF? Anyone have any experience with USB Loader and this particular model?
 
Seraphis Cain said:
http://www.staples.com/office/suppl...d=10001&catalogIdentifier=2&partNumber=827288

Okay, this is the hard drive I ordered. Some reviews say it works fine, others say it dies fairly quickly. And although the good reviews outnumber the bad, the bad ones all having the same problem for the most part kinda scares me. Also I'm not too big on having to keep it plugged into the wall for it to run. Kinda didn't realize it wasn't USB powered until after the order was processed. But I guess it's not a huge deal.

Anyway, what say you, GAF? Anyone have any experience with USB Loader and this particular model?
Don't know much about that particular model, but the externally powered drives tend to work better with the Wii than USB powered ones, so that's a good thing.

As for how you choose to partition, I would indeed go with FAT32. Your drive will likely already be formatted that way by default, so it means no reformatting is necessary. It also seems to increase drive compatibility. The only real downside is that IOS249 installs games a bit faster than IOS222, but that's not a big complaint, and you can still use IOS249 to install games if you like (although it's a little fiddly).
 
The NUS internet connection is failing for me, and when I pull system wads off game discs I have, I only get IOS38-64-v3610.wad (not v3867). I can't run NUS Downloader as I have a Mac. Am I screwed or should it work with v3610?

Nvm, the network download on the Custom IOS Installer worked, so I didn't need it, it seems.
 
Just a quick question. I've read through all the beginner stuff on the wiki, but still have one question. My Wii is on firmware version 3.4(E) and I'd like to know wether it's smart to go to 4.2 via normal updating procedures as I haven't installed the Homebrew channel or anything like that on my Wii.

I'm planning on doing that afterwards. Will this not let me do certain things or make the process much harder?

Thanks.
 
The USB loader stuff is probably the most convenient awesome thing to ever happen to a console, but I can't help but feel disappointed in the Wii homebrew scene.

I imagined this was going to open up to all kinds of awesome applications. But there's nothing like XBMC on the original Xbox, there were more homebrew games created for DS homebrew, efforts to unlock new uses for the system seem to be eschewed in favor of new ways to pirate stuff.

I just know there's probably something amazing that could be done. Part of my interest with the Android platform is that you know you've got people really trying to come up with good ideas, cos they might be lucrative ideas. Wii homebrew just seems to be all about USB loading now
 
Banzaiaap said:
Just a quick question. I've read through all the beginner stuff on the wiki, but still have one question. My Wii is on firmware version 3.4(E) and I'd like to know wether it's smart to go to 4.2 via normal updating procedures as I haven't installed the Homebrew channel or anything like that on my Wii.

I'm planning on doing that afterwards. Will this not let me do certain things or make the process much harder?

Thanks.

Well, regardless if you update before or after installing Homebrew, there is a chance of bricking. However, if this happens without any HB on your system, Nintendo appears to be repairing systems for free.

Myself, I'm on 4.1 and just update the IOSes as required (like the Shop Channel).
 
Dragona Akehi said:
Well, regardless if you update before or after installing Homebrew, there is a chance of bricking. However, if this happens without any HB on your system, Nintendo appears to be repairing systems for free.

Myself, I'm on 4.1 and just update the IOSes as required (like the Shop Channel).
Oh.. Hmm.. That's just great then..

So, what's the best thing to do now? How big is the chance of bricking happening when just normally upgrading?
 
This is probably off topic but something is seriously wrong. I try to connect SSBB and I get a 'disconnected from transmission'' from NWC, everything else that has online works. So I decided to delete and reenter my wireless router information. After adding it says 'the connection test was successful. Perform a Wii system update now? Wii Support Code 41212". I dont think I have ever seen a support code after a connection test or am I wrong...any help advice would be appreciated...

dont ban me please :/
 
Okay, quick question. Is there a way to use IOS249 JUST to install games, but still use 222 to play them? Installing with 222 takes a bit long for my tastes (and I've only installed about three of my games so far because of it), and I've heard that using 249 (from Clipper, a few posts up!) to install is faster.

(And I did look in the GAF Wiki, but didn't see anything about this specific problem)
 
Dragona Akehi said:
Well, regardless if you update before or after installing Homebrew, there is a chance of bricking. However, if this happens without any HB on your system, Nintendo appears to be repairing systems for free.

Myself, I'm on 4.1 and just update the IOSes as required (like the Shop Channel).

But you're running your games from a hard drive, right?

I don't have one so I'm thinking about upgrading to 4.2 from the NSMBW disc [leaving the luck to heaven :(] and then reinstall BootMii as boot2...

Does any gaffer have had its Wii bricked by 4.2?
 
jrricky said:
This is probably off topic but something is seriously wrong. I try to connect SSBB and I get a 'disconnected from transmission'' from NWC, everything else that has online works. So I decided to delete and reenter my wireless router information. After adding it says 'the connection test was successful. Perform a Wii system update now? Wii Support Code 41212". I dont think I have ever seen a support code after a connection test or am I wrong...any help advice would be appreciated...

dont ban me please :/
Well, the question to do an update after the connection test is definitely familiar to me. I think I might remember there being a number assigned to it too. Sounds normal.

And this question hasn't been asked 50 times before and obviously pointed out on the Wiki, like the Wii Shop one was, so no more dire consequences ;).

Banzaiaap said:
Oh.. Hmm.. That's just great then..

So, what's the best thing to do now? How big is the chance of bricking happening when just normally upgrading?
The chance of bricking is very small. Nobody in this thread has said they got bricked, for example. It's some fraction of a percent, but there do seem to be virgin Wii brickings on other sites, so it's a real risk.

It should be noted that the 4.2 installation method for Homebrew is a bit longer than the other techniques, but not too much harder, so you might as well bite the bullet and update via the official method.

Seraphis Cain said:
Okay, quick question. Is there a way to use IOS249 JUST to install games, but still use 222 to play them? Installing with 222 takes a bit long for my tastes (and I've only installed about three of my games so far because of it), and I've heard that using 249 (from Clipper, a few posts up!) to install is faster.

(And I did look in the GAF Wiki, but didn't see anything about this specific problem)
Yes. Put "ios=249" in config.txt, and set "ios=222-mload" to each game and save individual settings (these will go into settings.cfg, also editable by the Configurator if you like). Just make sure you use rev 15 of IOS249 (which has only been out for a month or so) as otherwise dual layer games won't install properly.

Farore said:
But you're running your games from a hard drive, right?

I don't have one so I'm thinking about upgrading to 4.2 from the NSMBW disc [leaving the luck to heaven :(] and then reinstall BootMii as boot2...

Does any gaffer have had its Wii bricked by 4.2?
See above for the bricking statistics. NSMBW PAL only updates you to 4.1, but it includes the boot2 update which is the dangerous part of 4.2. The NTSC version may take you fully to 4.2, but nobody ever answered my questions on whether it does or not. I'd appreciate it if you can fill us in on exactly what firmware you end up on in the end.

There will also be two parts to the update if you do run the update from the disc. Please check your firmware between both of the updates. I suspect the second one is the boot2 update, but I never confirmed that on my own Wii.
 
Clipper said:
See above for the bricking statistics. NSMBW PAL only updates you to 4.1, but it includes the boot2 update which is the dangerous part of 4.2. The NTSC version may take you fully to 4.2, but nobody ever answered my questions on whether it does or not. I'd appreciate it if you can fill us in on exactly what firmware you end up on in the end.

There will also be two parts to the update if you do run the update from the disc. Please check your firmware between both of the updates. I suspect the second one is the boot2 update, but I never confirmed that on my own Wii.

Thanks! I'll check the firmwares between updates. I've 2 4.1 consoles [one with BootMii as boot2 and the other only with it as an IOS] and both have been updated with the latest IOSes (as required by the Shop Channel).

I'll try to do them tomorrow [even though NSMBW shouldn't be opened until Xmas :P].
 
I dont know what I did, since I havent been paying attention lately, but I just realized that the bootmii screen doesnt come up when I have the sd card in anymore...what could have happened and do I need to redo the process?

dunno if this is a valid question :/
 
jrricky said:
I dont know what I did, since I havent been paying attention lately, but I just realized that the bootmii screen doesnt come up when I have the sd card in anymore...what could have happened and do I need to redo the process?

dunno if this is a valid question :/

Does the disc slot LED flash when you start the Wii? If not, then your Wii has been updated somehow (perhaps NSMB Wii?) and you need to reinstall BootMii. If it does flash, then it seems your sd:/bootmii directory may have been deleted or moved. You can restore that by running the BootMii installer again and choosing to "Prepare an SD card" under the BootMii options. The other possibility is that you have edited the bootmii .ini file and told it to autoboot to the system menu with a very small timeout.
 
Couple of questions.

I can't get Smash Bros Brawl to install on USB Configurable. It freezes at 57%, I assume it's because the disc is dual layer. The advice is to install it under a different IOS. How do you go about about doing this? What effect will changing the IOS my system is running on my Wii?

I can't find many resources about homebrew game development on the Wii. It would be cool making some simple games for it. How do you go about getting the SDK and getting your game on the Homebrew Browser?
 
Clipper said:
Does the disc slot LED flash when you start the Wii? If not, then your Wii has been updated somehow (perhaps NSMB Wii?) and you need to reinstall BootMii. If it does flash, then it seems your sd:/bootmii directory may have been deleted or moved. You can restore that by running the BootMii installer again and choosing to "Prepare an SD card" under the BootMii options. The other possibility is that you have edited the bootmii .ini file and told it to autoboot to the system menu with a very small timeout.
Bingo, thats probably it lol. I remember asking about that update and i updated since someone said it was safe...

What if I already backed up my Wii nand, and since im gonna have to reinstall bootmii, do i have to backup system again?

Also, I played with the settings on my router and now the code 61212 instead of 41212. they both bring up things on the Nintendo error code website and it makes me think something has happened with the homebrew and such, maybe I am wrong. I just updated my wii to 4.2 using the safe firmware method so will hitting yes on the perform system update menu make a difference?
the menu is taunting me to hit yes :/ and I am getting really restless as to why NWC isnt working since yesterday
 
ProfessorLobo said:
Couple of questions.

I can't get Smash Bros Brawl to install on USB Configurable. It freezes at 57%, I assume it's because the disc is dual layer. The advice is to install it under a different IOS. How do you go about about doing this? What effect will changing the IOS my system is running on my Wii?

I can't find many resources about homebrew game development on the Wii. It would be cool making some simple games for it. How do you go about getting the SDK and getting your game on the Homebrew Browser?
Instructions to update IOS249 to the latest version without the bug (rev 15) is on the IOS249 page. There is no problem to changing this as you are not changing the IOS your Wii runs on, just changing the IOS that your homebrew runs on.

devkitpro is the stuff you need for homebrew development. For hints and tips, head over to Wiibrew.

jrricky said:
Bingo, thats probably it lol. I remember asking about that update and i updated since someone said it was safe...

What if I already backed up my Wii nand, and since im gonna have to reinstall bootmii, do i have to backup system again?

Also, I played with the settings on my router and now the code 61212 instead of 41212. they both bring up things on the Nintendo error code website and it makes me think something has happened with the homebrew and such, maybe I am wrong. I just updated my wii to 4.2 using the safe firmware method so will hitting yes on the perform system update menu make a difference?
the menu is taunting me to hit yes :/ and I am getting really restless as to why NWC isnt working since yesterday
You have already done the dangerous part of the update by installing NSMB Wii. Hence, there should be no risk for you to perform a normal update via Nintendo now (except for power outages etc.)

Edit: Actually, just realised you will have to reinstall your IOS249 and IOS222/223 afterwards if you do the Nintendo update.
 
Alright GAF I'm effin' lost here. I installed the 4.2E update via the normal updating method. All fine. Then I went ahead and installed the HBC with bannerbomb etc. Installed DVDX no problem, but BootMii just won't work!

It constantly gives me the same error (Mounting SD Card... FAILED (-1). ) That's it. Tried searching online but no real solutions..

Yes. I've checked wether the SD card is locked or not, but that's all fine.

(I did install IOS249 already though. 236 in my case by the way..)
 
Banzaiaap said:
Alright GAF I'm effin' lost here. I installed the 4.2E update via the normal updating method. All fine. Then I went ahead and installed the HBC with bannerbomb etc. Installed DVDX no problem, but BootMii just won't work!

It constantly gives me the same error (Mounting SD Card... FAILED (-1). ) That's it. Tried searching online but no real solutions..

Yes. I've checked wether the SD card is locked or not, but that's all fine.

(I did install IOS249 already though. 236 in my case by the way..)
BootMii has trouble with more cards than other homebrew apps. Try another SD card if you have one.
 
Okay, I'm trying to update to cIOS rev15, and as the FAQ mentions I'm supposed use IOS236 as I have updated to 4.2E through the safe updater, not through Nintendo's official updater.

Problem is IOS236 is not showing up for selection. What do I do?
 
Hey Gaf, I have this problem whenever I try to use a hacks.ini file for v4.2U in the System Menu Hacks section of Priiloader whenever I try to enter it it gives me a message that says "Couldn't find hacks.ini neither on FAT or on NAND". Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
EatChildren said:
Okay, I'm trying to update to cIOS rev15, and as the FAQ mentions I'm supposed use IOS236 as I have updated to 4.2E through the safe updater, not through Nintendo's official updater.

Problem is IOS236 is not showing up for selection. What do I do?
You are updating. Thus, you should just choose IOS249. There used to be a message for that in that list, but it seems to have gotten deleted. I'll add it back, sorry.

Ormberg said:
Nevermind me, downloaded latest 3.0 version of WBFS, works fine now :)
I have to ask, why do you need a WBFS Manager anyway?
 
Okay, followed the guides on Neogaf Home brew page and everything worked like a charm, but how can I tell my Wii to boot into the Wii System Menu instead of the BootMii menu?? and how can I remove this PriiLoader Menu that comes up when I restart ???
 
Farore said:
Clipper said:
See above for the bricking statistics. NSMBW PAL only updates you to 4.1, but it includes the boot2 update which is the dangerous part of 4.2. The NTSC version may take you fully to 4.2, but nobody ever answered my questions on whether it does or not. I'd appreciate it if you can fill us in on exactly what firmware you end up on in the end.

There will also be two parts to the update if you do run the update from the disc. Please check your firmware between both of the updates. I suspect the second one is the boot2 update, but I never confirmed that on my own Wii.
Thanks! I'll check the firmwares between updates. I've 2 4.1 consoles [one with BootMii as boot2 and the other only with it as an IOS] and both have been updated with the latest IOSes (as required by the Shop Channel).

I'll try to do them tomorrow [even though NSMBW shouldn't be opened until Xmas :P].


Well, I did it and here are the results:

Wii #1
- BootMii installed was an IOS [can't be installed as boot2]
- Firmware version before NSMBW disc update: 4.0U
- Firmware version after NSMBW disc update: 4.1U
- The update was only done in one step or part

Wii #2
- BootMii installed as boot2 [launch console]
- Firmware version before NSMBW disc update: 4.1U
- Firmware version after NSMBW disc update: 4.1U
- The update was only done in one step or part

I hope that helps! :)
 
grkazan12 said:
Okay, followed the guides on Neogaf Home brew page and everything worked like a charm, but how can I tell my Wii to boot into the Wii System Menu instead of the BootMii menu?? and how can I remove this PriiLoader Menu that comes up when I restart ???
There are instructions for configuring BootMii to autoboot on the BootMii page.

Farore said:
Well, I did it and here are the results:

Wii #1
- BootMii installed was an IOS [can't be installed as boot2]
- Firmware version before NSMBW disc update: 4.0U
- Firmware version after NSMBW disc update: 4.1U
- The update was only done in one step or part

Wii #2
- BootMii installed as boot2 [launch console]
- Firmware version before NSMBW disc update: 4.1U
- Firmware version after NSMBW disc update: 4.1U
- The update was only done in one step or part

I hope that helps! :)
It does help. It proves that NTSC NSMB has the same hybrid type of update as PAL. It also makes it pretty clear to me that the first update that I experienced was to 4.1. The second update (which is the only one you needed) is the new boot2.

You will find that BootMii will be gone on Wii #2. You probably want to add it back, instructions for which are in the tutorial.
 
Brazil said:
Just wondering: what are the risks of trying to create separate channels for USB Loader games?

You can brick your Wii. NOT worth the trouble. I'd recommend if you're that lazy and don't want to select USBLoader from HBC like myself, to use the channel forwarder WAD that Clipper links to in the wiki. It's safe.
 
Clipper said:
You are updating. Thus, you should just choose IOS249. There used to be a message for that in that list, but it seems to have gotten deleted. I'll add it back, sorry.

Much, much thanks!
 
Dragona Akehi said:
You can brick your Wii. NOT worth the trouble. I'd recommend if you're that lazy and don't want to select USBLoader from HBC like myself, to use the channel forwarder WAD that Clipper links to in the wiki. It's safe.
It's not that. It's just that my Wii Menu would look great if I had all my games as channels there, haha.

But thanks anyway. Now onto finding a decent external HDD.
 
i dont just that the point of the channel loader
it's faster to boot from bootmii (and bypass the health screen) to hbc and have your usbloader on the first item on your hbc list
 
Anony said:
i dont just that the point of the channel loader
it's faster to boot from bootmii (and bypass the health screen) to hbc and have your usbloader on the first item on your hbc list
There is one other benefit, being that it allows you to have the Wii message board correctly record time played of the game, but yes, it is still not worth the risk in my mind.
 
Anony said:
i dont just that the point of the channel loader
it's faster to boot from bootmii (and bypass the health screen) to hbc and have your usbloader on the first item on your hbc list

is it? i've gotten pretty good at launching cfg before turning my tv on, but that health screen is just as long as the cfg loading screen.
 
Anony said:
i dont just that the point of the channel loader
it's faster to boot from bootmii (and bypass the health screen) to hbc and have your usbloader on the first item on your hbc list

Sometimes I just can't decide whether to play VC/Wiiware or a Wii game before I get to the system menu!
 
Dragona Akehi said:
You can brick your Wii. NOT worth the trouble. I'd recommend if you're that lazy and don't want to select USBLoader from HBC like myself, to use the channel forwarder WAD that Clipper links to in the wiki. It's safe.
Oh, what the hell. Went ahead and searched for this forwarder in the wiki.

Do you mean this one:

Can I make a channel for Configurable USB Loader instead of loading via HBC?

* Yes. You need a forwarder channel. This one by Narolez is by far the best forwarder channel currently available. However, be careful. Loading channels onto your Wii can be dangerous and you should probably backup with BootMii first.

?
 
Okay, sorry if I missed it on the homebrew wiki (I did look). But I'm looking to by a new external HD for use with my Wii. Are there certain models, or things, to avoid? Anyone have some cheap suggestions? I don't need anything fancy. I just want it to work with the Wii, and be fairly cheap.

Thanks!
 
Brazil said:
Oh, what the hell. Went ahead and searched for this forwarder in the wiki.
Do you mean this one:
?
Yes he does mean that one.

Nicktals said:
Okay, sorry if I missed it on the homebrew wiki (I did look). But I'm looking to by a new external HD for use with my Wii. Are there certain models, or things, to avoid? Anyone have some cheap suggestions? I don't need anything fancy. I just want it to work with the Wii, and be fairly cheap.

Thanks!
There is a compatibility chart, but it is old and there are many errors. Most drives now work, but enclosures for drives are iffy, so avoid those.
 
So my Wii is 4.0J, what happens if when I get the Tales of Graces disc next week the game requires features of the 4.2J (that's the newest, right?) firmware to run?

Am I gonna be fucked? Or is there a way to update to 4.2J while still retaining HBC? I don't have pre-loader or bannerbomb or any of that stuff. I modded mine back at 3.2J and did the patches before doing the official update to 4.0J and haven't messed with it since. I have 223/2~~ hermes patched though.
 
Bebpo said:
So my Wii is 4.0J, what happens if when I get the Tales of Graces disc next week the game requires features of the 4.2J (that's the newest, right?) firmware to run?

Am I gonna be fucked? Or is there a way to update to 4.2J while still retaining HBC? I don't have pre-loader or bannerbomb or any of that stuff. I modded mine back at 3.2J and did the patches before doing the official update to 4.0J and haven't messed with it since. I have 223/2~~ hermes patched though.
It won't require features of 4.2. No game works like that. It may require a new IOS, but we shall see. You can update to 4.2 quite safely, but I'd rather not need to tell you where you need to look. Ask again if you still have no clue, but be warned there may be dire consequences.

Even if you upgrade to 4.2 officially, you can still get all your stuff back on there (provided you dodge the very small chance of bricking that the 4.2 update can cause).
 
I wanna play New Super Mario Bros. Wii but my Wii has 3.2u firmware. Do I need to upgrade/install new channels in order to play?
 
Clipper said:
There are instructions for configuring BootMii to autoboot on the BootMii page.


It does help. It proves that NTSC NSMB has the same hybrid type of update as PAL. It also makes it pretty clear to me that the first update that I experienced was to 4.1. The second update (which is the only one you needed) is the new boot2.

You will find that BootMii will be gone on Wii #2. You probably want to add it back, instructions for which are in the tutorial.

Glad I could help in something :) ...

BTW, since 4.2 is not in the NSMW disc, where does it come from?
 
So I think i just bricked my wii...

I was trying to update my wii to version 4.0 from 3.2 through the HBC and I must have done something wrong during the process since when i turn on my wii, there's just a black screen?

Anyone know if anything can be done, or do I just have to accept it and move on?

EDIT: Also, would nintendo repair a bricked wii if it was due to homebrew?
 
PunjabiPlaya said:
So I think i just bricked my wii...

I was trying to update my wii to version 4.0 from 3.2 through the HBC and I must have done something wrong during the process since when i turn on my wii, there's just a black screen?

Anyone know if anything can be done, or do I just have to accept it and move on?

EDIT: Also, would nintendo repair a bricked wii if it was due to homebrew?
What application were you running to attempt the upgrade? Why were you trying to go to 4.0 of all things? Did you have BootMii installed as boot2 and/or Preloader? Do you have a NAND backup?

If you don't have a NAND backup, then your Wii is pretty much permanently bricked, but answer the the other questions anyway.

Nintendo will repair your Wii (likely via sending you a replacement), but you will most definitely be paying for the repair.

Farore said:
Glad I could help in something :) ...

BTW, since 4.2 is not in the NSMW disc, where does it come from?
Online updates.

h4k said:
I wanna play New Super Mario Bros. Wii but my Wii has 3.2u firmware. Do I need to upgrade/install new channels in order to play?
If you are using a USB loader, you will need to upgrade it to support the new patching types. If you want to play it from disc, then you can either use Gecko OS every time or StartPatch to avoid disc updates.
 
PunjabiPlaya said:
EDIT: Also, would nintendo repair a bricked wii if it was due to homebrew?
Yes, but they'll charge more (if they are going to charge more they'll send a quote first; if you don't want to pay you can have the broken Wii back).

Edit:Man I'm a slow typer...that is the second time I've been beaten by Clipper.
 
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