GAF Wii Homebrew thread: Homebrew, emulators, USB disc installs! Easy tutorial!

Mejilan said:
Step 2 of what?
Step 2, that you should only complete if you are planning to play pirated games... I'm taking it that you answered correctly :)

EatChildren said:
The tutorial states to mute or lower the TV volume when installing IOS249 due to the loud music. This made sense in previous versions as it was crappy metal.

However, now it is a midi version of Take On Me. I advise the tutorial state that volume should be turned up.
I did consider removing the warning, but the music is still too loud at its default volume, so I left it. But yes, I am also guilty of leaving it playing at the install complete stage just to listen for a few loops...
 
Clipper said:
Step 2, that you should only complete if you are planning to play pirated games... I'm taking it that you answered correctly :)

Ah yes. I have no idea what happens if you say "LOLOLOL IM A PIRATE" but I can imagine its bad.
 
If I want to avoid discs forcing the upgrade, then I can install Starpatch. Are there any known issues with starpatch, like ohh this game won't work any more or anything like that?

I'm still not sure if I'm going to keep homebrew on my Wii. I've been keeping it on the off chance I pick up a large external drive and rip all my games to it, or that there ends up being an import game I just have to get.
 
Shin Johnpv said:
If I want to avoid discs forcing the upgrade, then I can install Starpatch. Are there any known issues with starpatch, like ohh this game won't work any more or anything like that?

I'm still not sure if I'm going to keep homebrew on my Wii. I've been keeping it on the off chance I pick up a large external drive and rip all my games to it, or that there ends up being an import game I just have to get.
It is possible that a game in future might need to update in order to be played, but you can get around those issues with other homebrew. Thus, feel free to install it, it won't hurt.

I strongly suggest you don't give up on homebrew, though. It's quite difficult to get the HBC back if you delete it now (you need particular games). It won't hurt to leave it there and not use it, so if you do want to take a break from it, just put the HBC on the final channel page and ignore it for a while. Remember to come back here if there is ever a Wii upgrade, though, just in case.

hikarutilmitt said:
I'm almost curious to see what actually happens when you do. :lol
Feel free to try it if you want to have some fun. Just, once you figure out the fix, please don't post it in the thread.
 
Clipper said:
Feel free to try it if you want to have some fun. Just, once you figure out the fix, please don't post it in the thread.

Oh, I wouldn't dare. But I also don't feel like trying to figure out crap right now, otherwise I'd actually consider choosing it.
 
Clipper said:
Step 2, that you should only complete if you are planning to play pirated games... I'm taking it that you answered correctly :)
10. Read about what Step 2 entails and push the appropriate button
  • In other words, if you don't want to use USB Loader or if you plan to rip your own games from your own discs, you can push B. Otherwise, push A.
So now you're boobytrapping your tools, hoping to catch people who don't subscribe to your moral set? That's not cool.
 
ruby_onix said:
So now you're boobytrapping your tools, hoping to catch people who don't subscribe to your moral set? That's not cool.

I'm pretty sure Clipper didn't program the IOS236 installer. The 'booby trap' is in the installer itself.
 
EatChildren said:
I'm pretty sure Clipper didn't program the IOS236 installer. The 'booby trap' is in the installer itself.
Ah okay, my bad.

I'm above making traps, and wouldn't want my friends making them, but I'm not above chuckling when someone else falls into one that was made by a stranger. Clipper is still cool.
 
Actually, the tool is mine :lol.

And as for the description in the tutorial, that is just to stop anyone who thinks that ripping their own discs is piracy from saying 'yes' to the question.

The trap itself is quite easy to get out of once you figure out the trick, too. I just get to have a bit of a laugh at their expense in the meantime.
 
Oh wow, I had no idea you worked on the tool. I thought you only worked on CFG.
 
EatChildren said:
Oh wow, I had no idea you worked on the tool. I thought you only worked on CFG.
I generally do, but the tool was really simple. All the components were there in other tools, I just brought them all together, made sure it worked and put in the info text so it all made sense. I also did the Safe 4.2 Updater and the TBR Mod 1.13 that was on the tutorial for the last few weeks until this new exploit surfaced.
 
You guys are making it sound like installing IOS236 is now a game :lol. I'm almost tempted to reinstall it using this new method just to see what it's all about. Clipper, what happens if you fall into the trap?

Speaking of IOSes, what are the benefits of installing IOS58? My Wii's IOS is 61 (installed 236, 222 and 223).
 
As someone casually following this thread who plans on installing this crap in the future, I still have no idea what the hell the right answer is. So confusing.
 
Clipper said:
Step 2, that you should only complete if you are planning to play pirated games... I'm taking it that you answered correctly :)


I did consider removing the warning, but the music is still too loud at its default volume, so I left it. But yes, I am also guilty of leaving it playing at the install complete stage just to listen for a few loops...
Hahaha. Yeah, I answered correctly, though I was mighty curious what would happen had I answered otherwise. I was pretty confident that installing my own discs isn't something that you'd term as 'piracy.'
 
Gravijah said:
As someone casually following this thread who plans on installing this crap in the future, I still have no idea what the hell the right answer is. So confusing.
The tip in the guide is a bit confusing by itself.

If you won't use the USB loader = press B = safe

If you will use the loader, but aren't a pirate = press B = safe

"Otherwise, push A" = not safe


I assume that the question in the installer is optional and more blatant, and asks "Are you a pirate? Yes/No" with a result that apparently makes you squirm but causes no permanent damage unless you're dumb.

Clipper added the bit to the guide because he wanted to clarify that people who use loaders responsibly don't fit his definition of pirates, but even so, I might say "yes" if someone asked me if I was a pirate. It doesn't seem like a sensible thing to be including.

Which isn't to say that it's a big deal or that Clipper doesn't have the right to do it. Or that it isn't funny. But I wouldn't do it and would suggest that people refrain from similar things in the future.
 
Kilrogg said:
You guys are making it sound like installing IOS236 is now a game :lol. I'm almost tempted to reinstall it using this new method just to see what it's all about. Clipper, what happens if you fall into the trap?

Speaking of IOSes, what are the benefits of installing IOS58? My Wii's IOS is 61 (installed 236, 222 and 223).
I won't tell you what happens, but it won't do anything dangerous. It's safe to try it out.

IOS58 is useful if you have apps apart from USB Loaders that need USB2 support.

ruby_onix said:
The tip in the guide is a bit confusing by itself.

If you won't use the USB loader = press B = safe

If you will use the loader, but aren't a pirate = press B = safe

"Otherwise, push A" = not safe


I assume that the question in the installer is optional and more blatant, and asks "Are you a pirate? Yes/No" with a result that apparently makes you squirm but causes no permanent damage unless you're dumb.

Clipper added the bit to the guide because he wanted to clarify that people who use loaders responsibly don't fit his definition of pirates, but even so, I might say "yes" if someone asked me if I was a pirate. It doesn't seem like a sensible thing to be including.

Which isn't to say that it's a big deal or that Clipper doesn't have the right to do it. Or that it isn't funny. But I wouldn't do it and would suggest that people refrain from similar things in the future.
For clarity, the question in the installer is:

IOS236 Installer said:
Step 2 is an alteration that is only needed if you plan
to play pirated games. Do you need this alteration?
Press the A button if you want to play pirated games
Press the B button if you have no need for piracy

And yeah, I'm just having a little bit of fun to make me feel better about the number of pirates that probably use my app and tutorial. Call me the Mr. Resetti to the pirates if you must ;).
 
Clipper said:
It is possible that a game in future might need to update in order to be played, but you can get around those issues with other homebrew. Thus, feel free to install it, it won't hurt.

I strongly suggest you don't give up on homebrew, though. It's quite difficult to get the HBC back if you delete it now (you need particular games). It won't hurt to leave it there and not use it, so if you do want to take a break from it, just put the HBC on the final channel page and ignore it for a while. Remember to come back here if there is ever a Wii upgrade, though, just in case.

Yeah I think my plan is to keep Homebrew for now, incase some time in the future I decided to get a big external hard drive and rip my games to it. Though I think I'm going to go the route of updating to 4.3 and then reinstalling the cIOS stuff instead of installing starpatch. Mostly because I can see myself forgetting I had it running when the next forced firmware update comes along and not turning those things off before the update.

Though I'm still not sure, gonna to take lunch to weigh the options.
 
I'm trying to update my Japanese Wii with Marc's Dop-Shop so I can get access to the shopping channel again.

I went through the steps and installed IOS236, but it didn't appear on the shop install options afterward, so I went with 249. I put all the needed files on the SD card and it started installing everything successfully, but then freezes at the "3" at the bottom of the screen.

U2hSb.jpg


I did accidentally delete the IOS236 install folder prior if this means anything.

EDIT: Dop-Mii ended up working, and was a hell of a lot simpler to get running.
 
Clipper said:
And yeah, I'm just having a little bit of fun to make me feel better about the number of pirates that probably use my app and tutorial. Call me the Mr. Resetti to the pirates if you must ;).

Oooh, OK so it's not REALLY a trick. :lol
 
One more question that I might end up solving before it gets answered:

Bootmii is acting strange. If I try to go right to the homebrew channel, nothing happens and I get a blank screen (TV says "no signal"). If I go to the homebrew channel through the Wii itself, it boots up fine.

EDIT: Aaaaaaaaaaaand reinstalling Bootmii did the trick. Wii homebrew is always so painless. :D
 
Gravijah said:
Oooh, OK so it's not REALLY a trick. :lol
Actually, there is a trick to it too. Restarting the app is not enough to get it running again and so on.

Lyte Edge said:
One more question that I might end up solving before it gets answered:

Bootmii is acting strange. If I try to go right to the homebrew channel, nothing happens and I get a blank screen (TV says "no signal"). If I go to the homebrew channel through the Wii itself, it boots up fine.

EDIT: Aaaaaaaaaaaand reinstalling Bootmii did the trick. Wii homebrew is always so painless. :D
Yes. Whenever the HBC is updated due to a firmware update, you need to reinstall both the HBC and BootMii as you can guarantee that the title ID of the HBC will have changed.
 
So my friend tried to install IOS236 with the files and instructions from the wiki, and all he got was a stern talking to for pushing A during step 2.

Is there any way to get around this? The GAF wiki says to push A to use a USB loader, and now he can't install IOS236.

http://imgur.com/E9bie.png
screenshot because I realized that I could have sounded like a juvenile trying to cover up his own misdoings
 
Littlegator said:
Is there any way to get around this? The GAF wiki says to push A to use a USB loader, and now he can't install IOS236.
Yes, it's pretty easy to get around. I'm not going to just give you the solution, though.
 
For anybody that was worrying, those damn pirates have let us know that Metroid:Other M is working fine without any modifications. No definitive word yet on whether it contains the 4.3 update, though.
 
i get a wii error after 10 min of play, something like an error has happend please reboot your wii
i just instaled bootmii to boot 2 and i am on rev 20 (ios 249
i never had anny problems
is this a sing that my wii is dying ?
 
euro stalker said:
i get a wii error after 10 min of play, something like an error has happend please reboot your wii
i just instaled bootmii to boot 2 and i am on rev 20 (ios 249
i never had anny problems
is this a sing that my wii is dying ?
Every time or just once?
 
I just picked up a Seagate FreeAgent Go 320GB HDD today and have been ripping games to it. Holy crap, this is AWESOME. I love the interface with front and back boxart! I'm already spoiled by this; it's gonna be like the PSP where I never want to play games off the disc again.

A few questions:

-How do you reduce game file sizes? I thought there was a way to turn the .ISO that gets ripped into a smaller format. I formatted the HDD to the Wii format though, so if this can only be done with a FAT formatted drive it's probably not worth the effort to re-rip stuff again.

-Are there any games that are incompatible with the USB Loader? I read some stuff about Metroid Prime Trilogy not working, but it's mostly stuff from a year ago/dirty pirates. Can I just rip it now with no problems? Same with TvC Ultimate All-Stars?

-Can I play Wii games online off the HDD? The only game I have that I even care to is TvC...
 
legend166 said:
Apparently Other M has the 4.3 update? What's the best way to get around it?
Are you saying you have seen somewhere that it states it has the update? I haven't seen any info either way yet (apart from that it works with USB Loaders without errors).

Using a USB Loader to play the game would thus be the easiest way to get around the update.

If you want to play from the disc, then you either need to perform the steps to avoid disc updates, or to safely update with the disc. As long as you have the latest HBC and you have updated to boot2v4, then the update on the disc is actually safe.

Lyte Edge said:
I just picked up a Seagate FreeAgent Go 320GB HDD today and have been ripping games to it. Holy crap, this is AWESOME. I love the interface with front and back boxart! I'm already spoiled by this; it's gonna be like the PSP where I never want to play games off the disc again.

A few questions:

-How do you reduce game file sizes? I thought there was a way to turn the .ISO that gets ripped into a smaller format. I formatted the HDD to the Wii format though, so if this can only be done with a FAT formatted drive it's probably not worth the effort to re-rip stuff again.

-Are there any games that are incompatible with the USB Loader? I read some stuff about Metroid Prime Trilogy not working, but it's mostly stuff from a year ago/dirty pirates. Can I just rip it now with no problems? Same with TvC Ultimate All-Stars?

-Can I play Wii games online off the HDD? The only game I have that I even care to is TvC...
The games are already as small as they are going to get when they go onto your drive. These are not .ISO files that are on your Wii.

Most games work, except those that need to reload the IOS while operating. Many of these do work using the alternative .dol approach, but there are some that need special memory set up to work fully (which is the case for MPT), and we don't know what needs to be there, so they don't really work. All the MPs (but not the MP2 multiplayer) are playable if you use a combination of the alt .dol method to launch the game of your choice and cheats to select the difficulty, though. It's probably still easier to just use your disc.

TvC should work just fine. It will work online, although you might need to test different IOS bases. I would avoid online play, though, just in case Nintendo ever decides they want to crack down on it.
 
Clipper said:
Are you saying you have seen somewhere that it states it has the update? I haven't seen any info either way yet (apart from that it works with USB Loaders without errors).

Using a USB Loader to play the game would thus be the easiest way to get around the update.

If you want to play from the disc, then you either need to perform the steps to avoid disc updates, or to safely update with the disc. As long as you have the latest HBC and you have updated to boot2v4, then the update on the disc is actually safe.

What about just using Gecko OS?
 
Littlegator said:
So my friend tried to install IOS236 with the files and instructions from the wiki, and all he got was a stern talking to for pushing A during step 2.

Is there any way to get around this? The GAF wiki says to push A to use a USB loader, and now he can't install IOS236.

http://imgur.com/E9bie.png
screenshot because I realized that I could have sounded like a juvenile trying to cover up his own misdoings

We got our first candidate :lol
 
Clipper said:
Yes, using Gecko OS is probably an option, but you will need to use it every single time you play the game.

Ah, I'm used to that though, since I'm playing on a J-Wii and always using Gecko OS to play American games. Not anymore though; USB LOADER!!!! :D :D :D :D

Safe to install the frontend to the Wii menu?
 
Clipper said:
The games are already as small as they are going to get when they go onto your drive. These are not .ISO files that are on your Wii.

Most games work, except those that need to reload the IOS while operating. Many of these do work using the alternative .dol approach, but there are some that need special memory set up to work fully (which is the case for MPT), and we don't know what needs to be there, so they don't really work. All the MPs (but not the MP2 multiplayer) are playable if you use a combination of the alt .dol method to launch the game of your choice and cheats to select the difficulty, though. It's probably still easier to just use your disc.

TvC should work just fine. It will work online, although you might need to test different IOS bases. I would avoid online play, though, just in case Nintendo ever decides they want to crack down on it.

Thanks for all your help and information. Will stick to Prime Trilogy on the disc then.
 
I just bought a SeaGate 880 gB hard drive and it's formatted in NTFS format apparently. The USB Loader on the GAF Tutorial won't rip games because it says the HDD is full. I know it quite clearly isn't.

Do I actually have to format the HDD into this "WBFS" format I've been reading about?
 
Nemesis556 said:
I just bought a SeaGate 880 gB hard drive and it's formatted in NTFS format apparently. The USB Loader on the GAF Tutorial won't rip games because it says the HDD is full. I know it quite clearly isn't.

Do I actually have to format the HDD into this "WBFS" format I've been reading about?
I don't think homebrew supports NTFS so umm yeah.
 
Lafiel said:
I don't think homebrew supports NTFS so umm yeah.

So I'd have to buy another HDD for the Wii solely? =(

I thought with the newest cIOS or something that NTFS was supported?

Or could I create a partition of, say, 20gb that's WTCF or whatever? >_>
 
Format the drive to FAT32 and it will work perfectly. Use the tool linked on the Cfg page to do it. I'm not talking about GParted, but the guiformat one.
 
Does anyone know if this homebrew updater is worth using? I only need to access the shop channel right now but I figure that I may as well "future proof" myself for games like Metroid: Other M that require 4.3 (much more convenient then update bypasses).

I know some people aren't fond of Waninkoko's work but I personally haven't had a problem with his apps in the past.
I don't actually know what the Trucha Bug does or why it's disliked.
 
Luigiv said:
Does anyone know if this homebrew updater is worth using? I only need to access the shop channel right now but I figure that I may as well "future proof" myself for games like Metroid: Other M that require 4.3 (much more convenient then update bypasses).

I know some people aren't fond of Waninkoko's work but I personally haven't had a problem with his apps in the past.
I don't actually know what the Trucha Bug does or why it's disliked.

DO NOT use that app. It is dangerous, installs a bunch of crap you don't need and could brick your Wii.

If you really want 4.3, the tutorial has a safe update method for it now.

You can also update the shop without the firmware using these methods.
 
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