Thanks make I knew you had it in you.
Can someone post the day 2 table? On mobile now.
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Gafia 2: The Bride of Gafia |Mafia OT| One Wedding, Many Funerals
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Thanks make I knew you had it in you.
Can someone post the day 2 table? On mobile now.
Xamtheking
Member
I got nothing
I now theorize that there is indeed a Fruit/Drink Vendor, ESPECIALLY after Weemad's flip
What do you think of Xam's last vote? If I read the votes correctly from my notes they were at 6/5 after Wee's vote, but it wasn't terribly obvious with Terra's vote going from Salva to Wee.
Why fruit vendor all of a sudden? I thought you drank something and we came to the conclusion that there might be poison in that liquid.
Do you agree with me that Scum would have tried their darnest to save their Godfather?
Xamtheking
Member
So you see beforehand I didn't trust Roy because I thought there was a Scum Poisoner
But with Weemad's flip, there is already a role (I'd be extremely surprised if it isn't the arso) that knows who the "Mafia" are and can kill them. And if there is an arso (which there is now, unless this is the most elaborate scum plot in the history of ever) then there would probably not be another scum-aligned delayed kill ability.
Basically I trust Roy and therefore admit I was wrong
Yes, I do. Especially with Scrafty's claim being out in the open. But there's a point where scum has to say "fuck it" and not pull a Woof2.
Well like I said, it didn't change the vote leader at that point anymore. But on the other hand, those last votes happened in very quick succession, but it's possible that Xam jumped quickly to the bussing-train once he noticed that saving Weemad was going to fail at the last moment.
Xamtheking
Member
fruit vendor/otherwise a role that wins off of giving drinks for 3 nights or something like that
Probably 1 of 2 neutrals, the other one being the arso
You know I hate ties with a passion
So I like to help guarantee they don't happen
I'm not sure I follow your logic here.
Looking at those who shifted their votes at the day end who is your highest suspect currently?
If we assume arsonist can only target players in the same table as they are, we have a pretty tiny pool of players for potential arsonists then.
Night 1 - Roy was doused. In the same table (There was the assumed launch table scramble):
AbsolutBro
CzarTim
Kalor
Launchpad
SalvaPot
Gryvan (dead)
Roytheone (doused)
Ourobolus
Xamtheking
RobotNinjaHornets
Karu (dead)
Night 2 - Ouro was doused
Bronx-man (confirmed town)
Roytheone
Ourobolus (doused)
Burbeting
Absolutbro
Launchpad
Fireblend
CzarTim
Xamtheking
Weemad (dead)
So the people who were both nights in the dousing table are:
Roytheone (Claims n1 Douse)
Ourobolus (Claims n2 Douse)
Launchpad
CzarTim
Xamtheking
Absolutbro
Take this with grain of salt though, I think it's more than possible that the arsonist can target universally.
Xamtheking
Member
Basically
I thought Roy was lying 100% based on my thoughts that I was poisoned
Now that both I haven't died to what I thought was poison and that there is an Uninvited that can POTENTIALLY KILL fellow Mafia members (accidental dousing) I admit I was wrong
Xamtheking
Member
I got no more drink-related PMs
It was a red herring indeed
I... don't really know. I didn't spend enough time looking over it last night and all I did was visualize the votes. It got me trusting Burb because of his early Wee vote which seemed (on the surface at least) to come out of nowhere.
I'm thinking of focusing on Wee's interactions and reading that day end more closely.
Xamtheking
Member
Why would I, as the aforementioned Arsonist, publicly accuse someone of lying about an Arsonist being in the game for any reason
Why do you think that the douser is Uninvited, and not neutral?
At the time weemad first posted and said "I'm totally not an arsonist," you jumped on it and voted for them.
Not the strongest of theories, but it's what I've got.
Did you block me, bear? I already asked him that.
Honestly, I skimmed through your post and missed that question.
Xamtheking
Member
Because of the specific wording on the whole "you can be killed by them" bit.
That screams "accidental killing" to me, which is in line with a potential redirect from someone like Launch.
I also think the neutral is a Drink Vendor, ala the drink given to me.
I wish we had the seconds, but it's definitly not impossible scum Xam made that as a response if they were on top of things. They might have been the only two scum online as well or whatever they reason they lacked the third last vote to save Wee. Maybe they thought tieing would be too obvious.
This makes no sense. If the uninvited was the arsonist, they'd just be dousing mafia and make the game totally pointless if he dies since town can just slowly pick off everyone they doused.
It sounds like you're assuming the "lost uninvited" is the douser though (which doesn't make sense because if he/she was he could just avoid his teammastes since he/she knows who they are), or are you arguing that the mafia team could inadvertently douse their lost teammate (which I agree is something that could happen but you're phrasing it in a really weird way)? Also not considering dousing could be a neutral thing. Maybe I'm a little confused? It sounds like there's an assumption in there that you're not presenting as such.
What wording are you referring to?
I'd be surprised if that was the case, but sure. Here are the people that were at Table 1 both nights:
Terra (motion detector)
Time (But Terra already said he didn't move)
BSP
Ty4on
Nin
Camjo
Xamtheking
Member
We had this conversation earlier
It wasn't about the "i am not an arsonist" comment as it was about the intentional limerick usage
salvapot (4)
terrabyte20xx 830 (1272)
burbeting 1026 (1214)
ourobolus 1198
fireblend 1205
launchpadmcq 1236
xamtheking 1238 (1276)
weemadarthur 1275
scraftydevil (2)
fireblend 637 (1153)
weemadarthur 881 (1175)
timeaisis 1004
camjo-z 1113
kalor (2)
roytheone 876
ty4on 947 (1062)
czartim 1138 (1155)
nin1000 1139 (1252)
weemadarthur 1175 (1275)
launchpadmcq 1179 (1210)
ty4on 1254
There is scum somewhere around these votes. Most likely more than one, as well.
ourobolus 1198
fireblend 1205
launchpadmcq 1236
weemadarthur 1275
scraftydevil (2)
timeaisis 1004
camjo-z 1113
kalor (2)
roytheone 876
ty4on 1254
There is scum somewhere around these votes. Most likely more than one, as well.
I know.
...That "accidental kill" definitely means the Scum Night Kill to me.
Xamtheking
Member
These are fair points
I don't know everything
But apparently, we have an arso (unless you think both Ouro and Roy are lying) and someone who gives out drinks (unless you think both me and CzarTim are lying)
Alright, that's good to be confirmed then at least. But if it isn't poison (since I doubt there is three potential sources of night kills later on), what could it be?
Are you sweating?
Maybe it really is a fruit juice vendor. No seriously, it could be just a neutral role to create confusion. Sell your drink X times and win or something.
Xamtheking
Member
Fuck
I pulled a nin1000 and misread a vital piece of information
Ok so
Lemme adjust
Ok
So the other Uninvited probably isn't the arso
But there is an arso in the game, as well as a drink vendor, unless we are all lying
I pulled a nin1000 and misread a vital piece of information
Ok so
Lemme adjust
Ok
So the other Uninvited probably isn't the arso
But there is an arso in the game, as well as a drink vendor, unless we are all lying
I was thinking something close to the Cowlick in NX, myself.
Xamtheking
Member
No
I just remember things sometimes
Especially when it comes to the terror of my nightmares AKA Hugo Strange AKA Weemadarthur
Are you the arso, Xam?
Not sure if this has been cleared, but to me the scum role PM about the hidden uninvited mentions:
You seems to obviously be plural and the kill seems to emphasize that they cannot be recruited and you have to figure them out so you don't accidentally kill them. I don't think it confirms Launch's role in any way and certainly doesn't seem to hint at the hidden uninvited having a killing ability.