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Game of Thrones - Season 2 - George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire - Sundays on HBO
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ACOK
The whole ending was bad even if you didn't read the books. Guy tripping and setting a small patch of ground on fire. The fire next to the prisoner wagon was laughable too. Arya with no fighting skills.
Yoren was a badass this episode though.
That
strikes again.
The Tickler has been cast so I'm guessing on the way to Harrenhall they meet up with the Mountain's men.
The whole ending was bad even if you didn't read the books. Guy tripping and setting a small patch of ground on fire. The fire next to the prisoner wagon was laughable too. Arya with no fighting skills.
Yoren was a badass this episode though.
That
Blackwater budget
Next week preview shows Davos smuggling Mel in his little boat so I'm guessing they are condensing the 2 shadow attacks into one or at least changing the order.
BenjaminBirdie
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So I guess this is where I ask you if you've read the books?
[Pretty much up through where I've read, beginning of DwD]:
Arya's nightly prayer and Quest For Vengeance, basically introduced in this "some story" is like her defining characteristic.
But no, it means nothing without sneaking out through a trap door lol
bengraven
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Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Yeah, it's only about 2 chapters lost not half her arc and the scene was great. Oh no, no Weasal! The Yoren scene was great too.
Spoilers on a different character in ASOS
Well not really a different character but people get pissed if you suggest a character survives the various books. If they really need to have her see a bunch of dead bodies they can also do that next season when Arya, Gendry and Hot Pie wander around the Riverlands some more, assuming they do the show that way. The only thing I'll miss this season if they don't do it is where she kills the Bolton guard.
BenjaminBirdie
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I meant TV series.
Eh. Apples and oranges.
BenjaminBirdie
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Takamura-San
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The way they rushed Arya's storyline takes away from the happiness i felt when I read Loomy's death.
Cornballer
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Reviews:
- Westeros.org
- WiC.net
- Onion A|V Club
- EW.com
- memles
- Sepinwall
- Televisionary
- Maureen Ryan's review + an interview with D.B. Weiss
- IndieWire
- Poniewozik
- Grantland
- The Atlantic
- OtakuASSEMBLE's video review (youtube)
HBO Content:
- Preview for next week's episode *please spoiler tag any discussion* (youtube vid)
- Inside the Episode (HBO video, I'll post the youtube copy later if I see it)
Supermanisdead
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Stupid soldiers didn't even realize that the dead "Gendry" had long blonde hair lol.
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un33dab@dpu$$y
Amory Lorch and his guys were told to get Gendry not someone with black hair. Also it's not like the Lannisters would point all that all of Robert's bastards had black hair because that would get some people thinking.
The bastards the soliders killed appeared to be identified by someone, well at least the baby and Gendry. We have to assume the others.
The bastards the soliders killed appeared to be identified by someone, well at least the baby and Gendry. We have to assume the others.
Great point...
brianjones
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didn't the armorer describe gendry?
seems pretty half assed to just go around asking for someone named gendry
my son is also named bort
BarrenMind
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But without knowing the mother, they could easily assume Robert had fathered a blond child, obviously. They did pledge fealty to Joffrey after all.
ACOK
Didn't the cave/cove Mel gave birth in come AFTER the Renly shadow killing event in the books? Esp. with Davos coming along for the ride? Are they going to do 2 shadow babies in 1 episode, or just cull 1 and mix the cave and Davos shadow baby with the Renly one.
Would they not have been briefed about Gendry having dark hair, though? Seems like a major detail to leave out.
I didn't like this episode as much as the previous ones this season.
Reason why: it took a step back, visually. After four superbly shot (and acted) Alan Taylor episodes, it was jarring to see the camera and lighting back to square one, reminiscing of earlier episode aesthetics in Season 1. All the King's Landing scenes suffered greatly because of this (particularly noticeable during the final Tyrion/Littlefinger exchange). Editing also suffered, but not as much. The stuff shot for the Renly/Cat storyline looked rough, nowhere near as elegant as I would've hoped. Also, I think I prefer Dave & Dan's writing to Cogman's.
I did like the Tyrion three-way deception scene, as well as Brienne's introduction and the two surprisingly revealing (emotionally) scenes with Sansa. Can't wait for the next episode.
Reason why: it took a step back, visually. After four superbly shot (and acted) Alan Taylor episodes, it was jarring to see the camera and lighting back to square one, reminiscing of earlier episode aesthetics in Season 1. All the King's Landing scenes suffered greatly because of this (particularly noticeable during the final Tyrion/Littlefinger exchange). Editing also suffered, but not as much. The stuff shot for the Renly/Cat storyline looked rough, nowhere near as elegant as I would've hoped. Also, I think I prefer Dave & Dan's writing to Cogman's.
I did like the Tyrion three-way deception scene, as well as Brienne's introduction and the two surprisingly revealing (emotionally) scenes with Sansa. Can't wait for the next episode.
That's going to create a pretty big plothole. If they are doing special effects to get them the size they are now, how difficult would it be to make them larger?
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un33dab@dpu$$y
He just said he was going North to the Wall and that he had a bull's head helmet
Yep, Davos is only present during the second baby shadow that kills Cortnay Penrose. It seems likely that they're skipping that, after all it's not really that important and they can convey Stannis' distrust of his new followers in later scenes, discussing Blackwater strategies or whatever.
At first I was like "what the f***". Then it finally dawned on me. Very cool scene.
Yah, not digging her. Her character always struck me as more vocal, outgoing, and cocksure. This one is more quiet than I imagined her.
ACOK
She births two shadow babies in ACOK, one to kill Renly (which is off screen, and only seen through Catelyn's POV), and the other to kill the warden or whoever in Storm's End, which is when she rides out with Davos. It's likely they're just cutting the latter out, and having the Davos scene now.
Macmanus
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You're not mixing up events. I think perhaps that they are just going to roll it up into one event. Maybe put Renly actually in Storm's End?
She would be competing with her Dad's personality then. The same voice with 2 characters is not that great for TV unless they want to maintain the same conflict. I think they made choices for dramatic effect.
Macmanus
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BTW, the preview has a shot of.new Gregor. He doesn't look quite as imposing
They recast him?
Anton Sugar
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I haven't read the second book yet, but I actually like Yara in the show--I think she's well-acted. People complaining about the actress by saying she is too quiet need to realize that's a function of the writing, not the actress. She is only given so many lines--should she be yelling them? As JGS said, then you'd have two people berating Theon. I think there's a better dynamic to it as it is.
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un33dab@dpu$$y
BTW, the preview has a shot of.new Gregor. He doesn't look quite as imposing
Episode 4 Preview
Wow, I didn't even consider that was him. Yeah, he's probably tall, but he's physically slight, at least based on the preview. Definitely not as imposing as the original who really looked the part. But maybe his performance will add something.
Cornballer
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Yes. Conan Stevens left to work on a couple other projects.
Yes. It's not really clear if he bailed out for The Hobbit/Spartacus or got kicked out for whatever reason, but it doesn't really matter anymore.
fallengorn
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BTW, the preview has a shot of.new Gregor. He doesn't look quite as imposing
Something that really bugs me (and I get why) is nearly everyone has the same god damn armor on the show, especially the Lannisters. :\
That was actually a David & Dan scene that ended up getting edited into Cogman's episode in post. Bryan revealed this in the episode commentary.
He didn't leave, so much as, he wasn't asked back.
Forsaken82
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In the books, as far as I recall, Arya doesn't trust Gendry until Gendry questions her AFTER the battle takes place because he hears her shout "Winterfell" as a battlecry. I didn't mind it happening earlier on here, but the lack of Arya's participation is what bugged me. I didn't care about Lommey, i didn't care about the timing of Gendry finding out her secret, but that lack of heroism from Arya i think is a huge Omission.
Cornballer
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Similar to how the Yoren scene w/ Arya was written by D&D and not Cogman this week, iirc.
Oh really? It wasn't clear from the rumors surrounding it who snubbed who. Oh well, it doesn't really matter at this point.
BobTheFork
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About them thinking they killed Gendry.
The solders that came back may not have been briefed, they were soliders who were asked to help after the King's gaurd was sent away. Then again, it's still a fair point that someone would have told them about the helmet and the hair.
The solders that came back may not have been briefed, they were soliders who were asked to help after the King's gaurd was sent away. Then again, it's still a fair point that someone would have told them about the helmet and the hair.
Forsaken82
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They know about the helmet, not the hair.
When they were questioning the blacksmith Mott, they ask him how they will know it is gendry. The only thing he tells them is that he carries a Bulls head helm that he made himself.
Oh yeah? Didn't know that. Did Bryan mention that on Twitter?
It wasn't clear at first but Conan's recent post seems to confirm that the recast was HBO's decision, not his:
Conan Stevens said:
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un33dab@dpu$$y
The Yoren fight is significantly more badass than the Syrio fight from last season. Which makes me happy that the fights are getting better, but saddens me that the Syrio fight was not all it should have been.
The Elite
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I'm seeing the exact opposite. A lot of unique armor on characters.
Cornballer
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Yup:
Cogman on Twitter said:
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Forsaken82
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I am not that disappointed in this change. The original actor was on screen for about 2 minutes if I recall.
Are you thinking that they recast the Sandor?
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