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[adamsapple]

Just as shocking as finding out that the most number of PS Plus subscribers are on the most expensive Premium tier.

From the recent EC summary, it states that 70~80% of total game pass subs are on the Ultimate plan.

Unfortunately the total # of subs is redacted.

 

[Sgt. Pinback]

That's a lot of Xcloud.

 

[Darkness_Arises]

I do not find it shocking that most people are on GPU, it offers the customer the most value out of all GP tiers. I really find it hard to believe that the number of PS+ premium subscribers exceeds the number of PS+ extra subscribers as PS+ premium really does not offer enough marginal value over extra to justify the higher price.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

I, too, am subbed to both services at the highest levels, currently. Plan on downgrading them both in due time.

 

[AJUMP23]

Pretty neat.

 

[T-Cake]

Not too worried over here as a PC Game Pass-only subber after a couple of years of Ultimate. MS seem to be very keen on keeping PC users happy as there was no price increase and EA Play is included as well.

 

[M.W.]

Best $2 a month I spend.

 

[THE DUCK]

This just adds fuel to the fire that these are here to stay. That's a ton of guaranteed monthly revenue.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

 

[Chukhopops]

I actually find it really surprising, only reason I do GPU instead of normal GP is because I play on PC as well. Gold is kinda useless at this point.

Do that many people really play non-F2P games online to make Gold relevant to them?

 

[Solidus_T]

Supposedly the split on Playstation Plus is like this as well. It's surprising to me, since I opt for the most basic options and I tend to play single games for months at a time.

 

[Ozriel]

Just as shocking as finding out that the most number of PS Plus subscribers are on the most expensive Premium tier.

I'm an Extra subscriber. Can't imagine why so many people are on Premium.

I actually find it really surprising, only reason I do GPU instead of normal GP is because I play on PC as well. Gold is kinda useless at this point.

Do that many people really play non-F2P games online to make Gold relevant to them?

Ultimate gives you EA Play, Gold, Cloud and PC play.

 

[Banjo64]

Not shocking at all considering regular Game Pass is redundant for most Xbox players due to no online component.

Wouldn't even be able to play Sea of Thieves or Grounded and you'd be gutting games like MCC.

MS blatantly rail roading console players in to the top tier.

 

[SportsFan581]

I'm an Extra subscriber. Can't imagine why so many people are on Premium.

The rumors of the upcoming service persisted for quite a while before launch. I think a lot of people picked up PSNow subs for dirt cheap (could be had from a lot of sites for $25/yr) and those got converted to PS+ Premium.

I will definitely downgrade to Extra when it comes time, still have quite a bit of the premium left though.

Just as shocking as finding out that the most number of PS Plus subscribers are on the most expensive Premium tier.

Did some new information get released about the PS+ Extra/Premium breakdown? In March 2023 Sony was saying Extra/Premium only accounted for 14m of their 47m PS+ subscribers.

 

[reinking]

I'm not surprised. Conversion loopholes convert to GPU. It also offers the best value. I do not believe there are many PC only users and console only isn't a great deal compared to GPU.

 

[lh032]

i bet most of it were from loopholes exploit.

 

[adamsapple]

Did some new information get released about the PS+ Extra/Premium breakdown? In March 2023 Sony was saying Extra/Premium only accounted for 14m of their 47m PS+ subscribers.

No, I was referencing the same thing, I guess Essential is technically the most, but that is the basic tier that's needed for Online, their Gold equivalent.

Between Extra and Premium, Premium has the higher sub counts.

 

[Nubulax]

Just as shocking as finding out that the most number of PS Plus subscribers are on the most expensive Premium tier.

From the recent EC summary, it states that 70~80% of total game pass subs are on the Ultimate plan.

Unfortunately the total # of subs is redacted.

of course number of subs is redacted.. why is MS so shit scared of releasing that number

 

[adamsapple]

of course number of subs is redacted.. why is MS so shit scared of releasing that number

The last time we got numbers was when the activision acquisition was announced, maybe we'll get it when/if it closes.

 

[Nubulax]

The last time we got numbers was when the activision acquisition was announced, maybe we'll get it when/if it closes.

Im sure once that closes and they get a ton of people going from gold to a gamepass option they will prob release it ya...especially with Starfield coming out to push PC gamepass

 

[TrueGrime]

I'm an Extra subscriber. Can't imagine why so many people are on Premium.



Ultimate gives you EA Play, Gold, Cloud and PC play.

If I'm not mistaken, Gold completely goes away in lieu of GP Core, but it's still confusing as shit as to what you get exactly with these options other than that's seen here. Or maybe it's just this.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I didn't realize that there was anything other than Ultimate at this time.

Silly me.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

A first time console gamer buying an XSS with with a yeart of Gamepass Core is actually a great value. That to me is where Gamepass has it's true value.

 

[jorgejjvr]

I get it for gamepass, but not sure why Premium is the go to for psn fans. Extra seems to be the way, that's what I have

 

[jorgejjvr]

Question does Core come with Online? Just like Gold did? Or do you need ultimate to play online?

If so, that's a big jump in $$$ for anyone just using gold today

 

[Antwix]

Love how people say the conversion is a loophole/exploit when Microsoft literally advertised it.

 

[Pelao]

Well, Ultimate costs ten dollars a month on the Xbox store in my country, only 2 dollars more than regular Gamepass, and they do quite a few promotions. For example, this month it only cost me 60 cents, so it's a pretty good deal.
I don't think I would pay for Ultimate if it cost what it does in the US. The catalog is kind of mediocre.

 

[March Climber]

Not shocking at all considering regular Game Pass is redundant for most Xbox players due to no online component.

Exactly. MS Still holding the online component hostage for the higher tier(GPU) when online isn't in the mid-tier(regular Gamepass) is the problem here.

 

[TrueGrime]

Question does Core come with Online? Just like Gold did? Or do you need ultimate to play online?

If so, that's a big jump in $$$ for anyone just using gold today

Core gets you online.

 

[reinking]

Love how people say the conversion is a loophole/exploit when Microsoft literally advertised it.

The conversion isn't the loophole/exploit. Getting cheaper gold subs from a different market is. That is probably why MS changed the conversion rates.

 

[jshackles]

If I'm not mistaken, Gold completely goes away in lieu of GP Core, but it's still confusing as shit as to what you get exactly with these options other than that's seen here. Or maybe it's just this.

The fact that online play isn't included in tier 2 still makes me irrationally angry every time I see this

 

[Gamerguy84]

Where are those GPU prices? I'm in the US and my total every month is $16.04. PC BTW

 

[Fafalada]

Just as shocking as finding out that the most number of PS Plus subscribers are on the most expensive Premium tier.

I mean I am part of the problem for both here ...
but GPU is less surprising of the two - MS has been giving it away for less than price of standard PC GP (which has been the cheapest official price tier so far) through the Gold Conversion.

I'd say wait and see 2 years from now when conversions expire but by then MS will have acquired most of the industry so everyone will be on GPU...

 

[yurinka]

Exactly. MS Still holding the online component hostage for the higher tier(GPU) when online isn't in the mid-tier(regular Gamepass) is the problem here.

Well, it's a marketing trick to make people upgrade to the higher tier instead of to the middle one.

The conversion isn't the loophole/exploit. Getting cheaper gold subs from a different market is. That is probably why MS changed the conversion rates.

Did MS announce how the conversion from GP core to GPU is going to be now? Like pricing, ratio, etc.

Because maybe they kill the super cheap deal if they end adding the ABK games there.

 

[adamsapple]

Did MS announce how the conversion from GP core to GPU is going to be now? Like pricing, ratio, etc.

Because maybe they kill the super cheap deal if they end adding the ABK games there.

Yes they have already said the conversion will change from 1 : 1 to 3 : 2.

3 : 2 will also apply when converting regular game pass, or PC game pass, to Ultimate.

They haven't updated the page to reflect Core yet, but I'm assuming it will be the same 3 : 2 for that as well.

 

[yurinka]

Yes they have already said the conversion will change from 1 : 1 to 3 : 2.

3 : 2 will also apply when converting regular game pass, or PC game pass, to Ultimate.

They haven't updated the page to reflect Core yet, but I'm assuming it will be the same 3 : 2 for that as well.

Ok thanks, I knew they changed the ratio recently. But didn't see anything mentioning if they were going to keep it or change it once they move to GP Core. I assume that they didn't say anything for GP Core is because it won't change and they'll keep the 3:2.

And at the same time, I didn't see anything about the pricing of the upgrade.

 

[IDappa]

All for a dollar aswell.





But seriously, it makes sense. Most people play multiplayer and and also want access to gamepass. Pc gamepass and xcloud is the extra bonus console people can dabble with when they feel the need.

 

[TrueGrime]

The fact that online play isn't included in tier 2 still makes me irrationally angry every time I see this

Agree. It's fucking dumb.

 

[supernova8]

Not shocking at all considering regular Game Pass is redundant for most Xbox players due to no online component.

Wouldn't even be able to play Sea of Thieves or Grounded and you'd be gutting games like MCC.

MS blatantly rail roading console players in to the top tier.

To be fair pretty much all companies in all industries do it so I won't hold a grudge about it.

It's like when you go to the cinema and the small and medium-size popcorns are so close to the large in price and yet the large has way more popcorn. Obviously pushing people toward large and then anyone who buys small.... well they just get a bigger profit margin.

 

[Pagusas]

Best $2 a month I spend.

lol same. I think my gamepass U is paid through 2025 thanks to some ridiculous cheap deals that made it less than $3 a month.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Makes sense. It's the best deal in gaming. Cloud gaming works so well.

 

[FoxMcChief]

I'm an Extra subscriber. Can't imagine why so many people are on Premium.

FOMO.

 

[adamsapple]

FOMO.

Having native PS3 emulation on the premier tier on PS6 will be great, until then it seems a bad investment over Extra.

 

[ReBurn]

Having native PS3 emulation on the premier tier on PS6 will be great, until then it seems a bad investment over Extra.

I'd pay to be able to play my PS3 collection on a modern console. My PS3 works fine and all but it would be nice to not have to hook it up.

 

[bender]

The classics and trials are probably my favorite thing about PS+ service but I'm not sure it is worth the cost. Thankfully they capped the upgrade fee to $149.99 no matter your subscription length so I converted my 10+ years to that tier.

 

[mckmas8808]

I do not find it shocking that most people are on GPU, it offers the customer the most value out of all GP tiers. I really find it hard to believe that the number of PS+ premium subscribers exceeds the number of PS+ extra subscribers as PS+ premium really does not offer enough marginal value over extra to justify the higher price.

This is where people just don't understand the psychology of most humans. We don't want to feel like we are missing out. So the best way to do that is to get the highest tier. Especially if it's just a few more dollars per month.

 

[mckmas8808]

The fact that online play isn't included in tier 2 still makes me irrationally angry every time I see this

How is this possible? Surely that's a mistake of the graph right?

 

[adamsapple]

How is this possible? Surely that's a mistake of the graph right?

Game Pass console has never had online included since the service launched in 2017.

 

[mckmas8808]

Game Pass console has never had online included since the service launched in 2017.

Jesus, I honestly never knew that. Makes all those arguments about Sony be anti-consumer sound really stupid to me now.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

That's a lot of Xcloud. $1 conversion trick

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