Game Pass was always good. Now, it’s finally consistent

XXL

Gold Member
Bitter people spending $70 a game with no GP.
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reinking

Gold Member
Why do people continue to spread this nonsense that GamePass killed the Xbox brand? What lead MS to moving more of their games to other consoles is their piss poor console sales and the almost $100,000,000,000 they had spent on acquisitions.

They were going down this route before GamePass. GamePass was a Hail Mary attempt to move more people into their ecosystem and sell more consoles, and it failed.

The mistake they made was waiting too long to address their studio issue, and the whole Xbone ordeal.
I think some people believe Game Pass is what led to that $1000000000000 MS had to spend on acquisitions. TBH though, the advertising for the Xbox Series was getting pretty bad because all they kept pushing was Game Pass. To a point that they were saying you did not need an Xbox even before they started the whole everything is an Xbox campaign. They were trying to push streaming (and still are).
 
I think some people believe Game Pass is what led to that $1000000000000 MS had to spend on acquisitions. TBH though, the advertising for the Xbox Series was getting pretty bad because all they kept pushing was Game Pass. To a point that they were saying you did not need an Xbox even before they started the whole everything is an Xbox campaign. They were trying to push streaming (and still are).
GamePass was and is a complete disaster in the making. Whoever thought the idea of a Netflix-like streaming service could work for video games is a complete idiot and deserves to be shown out the door. I'm still shocked that Microsoft was duped into thinking this would work by Lies of Phil Spencer.

To think the gaming press and gamers like the idiots in IGN or on this website praising it as the "best thing" Microsoft ever did and try to pressure Sony (and to a lesser extent Nintendo) to do the same. As much as Jim Ryan and the board of directors at Sony deserve blame for wasting developers time on Live-Service games, at least they didn't buy the bullshit everyone else was on.

Microsoft is probably regretting ever greenlighting the GamePass idea since, as you stated. They wasted close to 100 billion dollars on it.
 


Fact: Game Pass killed Xbox.

Xbox pundit:
Game Pass is an existential threat to retailers, this is the reason why they are pushing Play Station instead. 🤔 ...."pie_tears_joy::pie_roffles:"pie_tears_joy:

Oh man, oh man. I'm just waiting to see what the last straw will be that makes all these people snap to reality and publicly admit the truth that the entire industry and regular people already know.


"Jez Corden and Rand al Thor" sound like the names of throw-away Star Wars characters.
 

Arsic

Loves his juicy stink trail scent
I’m baffled how taking a franchise like call of duty which has no issue selling every year, and then throwing it up on gamepass to make LESS money, is a business decision Xbox/Activision all agreed on.

Phil Spencer will forever be the king of retard mountain.

That all said gamepass is awesome and saves me thousands of dollars at this point lol.
 

RickMasters

Member
People say this like it should sell you on the system.

You pay to rent a game for however long. It leaves the service. You pay for the game AGAIN because your rental ended. Meanwhile, you continue to pay for a rental service you aren't using because you're playing a game you own.


Who says people with GPU are playing one game at a time? I know when I’m having a gaming sesh I tend to play more than one game and typically it’s a mix of what I own and what’s on GPU. I I might spend a couple hours inna Sunday just playing something like lost judgement then hop on COD ( via GPU) maybe followed up by marvel vs capcom collection and then I’m hopping in forza horizon 5 for some MP races with my friends ( via GPU…. However I did go ahead and buy all the DLC) that’s just an average Sunday gaming sesh for me at just my Xbox ( I also play a bunch of games on PC, but mostly on Xbox)
 

mathello

Member
I don't think gamepass saved me any money. I think I payed just right for what I got out of it. These people who can play games like Podcast Games Journalists, I don't understand how people can just play through so many different games.
 

OctopusBox

Neo Member
Who says people with GPU are playing one game at a time? I know when I’m having a gaming sesh I tend to play more than one game and typically it’s a mix of what I own and what’s on GPU. I I might spend a couple hours inna Sunday just playing something like lost judgement then hop on COD ( via GPU) maybe followed up by marvel vs capcom collection and then I’m hopping in forza horizon 5 for some MP races with my friends ( via GPU…. However I did go ahead and buy all the DLC) that’s just an average Sunday gaming sesh for me at just my Xbox ( I also play a bunch of games on PC, but mostly on Xbox)
Buying dlc for a game you don’t own seems crazy to me. But I paid $10 for the horse armor so wtf do I know.
 

Ritsumei2020

Who did they think I was shilling for?
I don't really understand Game Pass from a business standpoint. Initially I thought that it was to sell more consoles (likely at a loss), and thus increase earnings from third party games sold on Xbox.

But then why put it on PC? Why buy one of the largest third party publishers and put all their games on Game Pass for free? Why push for Game Pass to be on all these devices and platforms where Microsoft is not paid for licensing?

Does the monthly fee alone really turn a profit? A profit large enough for it to justify purchasing Activision/Blizzard for 70 billion dollars? Every individual in America would need to subscribe to Game Pass Ultimate for a full 9 years just to break even that acquisition. And that's including 9 years of Activision's most recent profits, which I have to imagine would go down due to being on Game Pass.

How are they supposed to tum a profit with this? Are they trying to just throw money at it until they bully everyone else out of the market and then jack up the rates when there's no other options? Doesn't seem like it's working.

Yes, this is what they are trying to do.

In Xbox defence, you could say that its not so different from Sony selling hardware at a loss to get Sega out of the market.

But Xbox is selling both hardware and software at a loss lol
 

RickMasters

Member
Buying dlc for a game you don’t own seems crazy to me. But I paid $10 for the horse armor so wtf do I know.


I usually either beat the game before it leaves or I buy it. If I liked it enough to buy the DLC I like the game enough to buy it when it leaves the service assuming I haven’t beaten it already. That usually is never the case. I bought FH4 DLC long before I bought the game…. Bought the game before it got delisted. Takes of arise and lies of P I also bought before they left GPU. If it wasn’t for GPU I don’t even thing I would have gotten into certain JRPGs to be honest. Tales and ni no kuni 2 have been pleasant suprises. And I pretty much own everything square puts on Xbox at this point in time. So now I have final fantasy pixel remaster and everything after sitting in my backlog. Ive become a bit of a hoarder. Shit I even bought all the old star wars games because I wanted a star wars games collection. It just looks so cool in my digital library.



This is the problem. Too many games and not enough time to play them all.
 

OctopusBox

Neo Member
I usually either beat the game before it leaves or I buy it. If I liked it enough to buy the DLC I like the game enough to buy it when it leaves the service assuming I haven’t beaten it already. That usually is never the case. I bought FH4 DLC long before I bought the game…. Bought the game before it got delisted. Takes of arise and lies of P I also bought before they left GPU. If it wasn’t for GPU I don’t even thing I would have gotten into certain JRPGs to be honest. Tales and ni no kuni 2 have been pleasant suprises. And I pretty much own everything square puts on Xbox at this point in time. So now I have final fantasy pixel remaster and everything after sitting in my backlog. Ive become a bit of a hoarder. Shit I even bought all the old star wars games because I wanted a star wars games collection. It just looks so cool in my digital library.



This is the problem. Too many games and not enough time to play them all.
I’m older so I’m still trying to reconcile “ownership” and value in the digital video game age. I’ve bought many games multiple times on different platforms to support devs so I’m definitely making a judgement on buying dlc for subscription games, it’s just something I would never have considered and I’m surprised to hear people do it. Spend your money however you want!
 
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