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All you have to do is Ctrl+F to see that Zoe cherry picked most of them. For ex:

https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/508193025558716417

In context, is obviously a joke:

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Aug 27 04.22.41 <skeeet>	>Depression Quest, which went viral after Robin Williams' suicide
Aug 27 04.22.49 <skeeet>	what the actual fuck
Aug 27 04.26.07 <Agent_Cooper>	Yeah ans it was feminism that killed Robin Williams 
Aug 27 04.27.28 <Agent_Cooper>	Feminism has allowed women to financially abuse men by law.

Pretty much every single screenshot she took is out of context, if you look at the logs. And it has to be stressed, the people in this IRC channel released full, unedited logs so people could do that. Zoe hasn't. She's just posting snippets out of context.

Umm not sure what the joke is? The 'feminism has allowed women to abuse men by law' is a common fallacy in MRA circles as they feel child support is some kind of conspiracy against them. As Robin Williams is divorced this closes the circle to 'Robin Williams was killed by feminism', the rantings of madmen can seem like a joke if you're unfamiliar but these guys seem to take it very seriously indeed.
 
And finally. If you still think, after literally thousands of posts, that it's more important to talk about what you call an "idiotic" article than it is to talk about how women are being threatened, how they have to leave their home, how they have to live with harassment, how they can't even have blogs or youtube channels or streams or Twitters or gender-specific nicknames on XBL/PSN/Steam because of fear of harassment, how their families and friends are called up and harassed, and how they finally have to exit their private online spaces because of all this bullshit. Then we cannot ever proceed with communication with one another, because we are fundamentally different in how we view the world and the people within it.

I'm not arguing with you about how awful it is that women are being threatened because I agree with you. There is no debate to be had.

Stop misrepresenting what I was saying. This is what I mean, you are not arguing in good faith. Stop shitting on this thread, if you actually want to talk to me like a reasonable person do so in PM. Don't create more garbage here.

Your argument was that the language of Alexander's article can be reasonably understood to include herself as a member of the group of "young men queuing with plush mushroom hats and backpacks and jutting promo poster rolls. . .to see the things that marketers want them to see. . .[who] don&#8217;t know how to dress or behave. . .who know so little about how human social interaction and professional life works that they can concoct online &#8216;wars&#8217; about social justice or &#8216;game journalism ethics,&#8217; straight-faced, and cause genuine human consequences." I've condensed this argument to "I'm a mushroomhead like you" for conciseness. That's not arguing in bad faith, that's offering an honest summary of what I perceive your theory to be.
 
There are a few common viewpoints that everyone shares amongst the group like with damn near every group that organizes for a cause. Not everyone has to agree about everything.

can you name what those common issues are? i haven't seen any two people saying the same thing other than extremely vague statements about how game writers aren't "ethical"
 
Stop misrepresenting what I was saying. This is what I mean, you are not arguing in good faith. Stop shitting on this thread, if you actually want to talk to me like a reasonable person do so in PM. Don't create more garbage here.

frankly I think he destroyed your argument. I do agree that the Alexander piece is ultimately a distraction from bigger issues. but as I've been catching up in here, he looks reasonable, you don't.
 
Mods: since the other games journalism thread was locked and this thread is about #gamergate, can we have a thread dedicated to discussing issues with games journalism in a manner strictly detached from this phenomenon?

Would be a breath of fresh air after all of this.

It's an ok thread, but it's more focused on people just listing off things without actually discussing them, nor does it have the disclaimer to keep discussion focused. Even with the "no fruitless money hat" drops, there are already a few out there.

I don't know if it needs to be a discussion started by one of the mods/admins, but it needs to be made in conjunction with them in the formation of it.

After all, I could say that there are no issues and people are just offended by review scores not fitting their personal view, or that there is a major integrity issue. But where are the examples? Where's the discussion?

With that said, nice call out Jason and I'm glad you're trying to be a part of a solution instead of building walls.

Edit: I suppose mods can contact the OP to edit the thread with some added suggestions by them, but then there are posts already there that would likely be in contrast to them.
 

As angry as it made me seeing harassers crow about their win with Patreon/Kotaku and the intense disgust I felt when they used that win to pretend their sustained campaign of terrorizing women was about "journalism", you've been killing it in this thread refuting a lot of the bullshit that has been spouted. So credit where it is due.

I'm still so angry that voices like Jenn Frank were silenced forever and countless women who might have gone into gamedev or games writing won't because why would you when it's not a safe place for women?

Frat boy games journalists brag on their top ten iTunes ranked podcasts about how hammered they get at preview events, and write articles about games they played while drunk on free booze, but Jenn Frank writing an antiharassment op-ed (one vetted by that Guardian's editors and legal department, btw) is the real threat to journalistic integrity. Even before the proof that this movement was always only ever about harassing, terrorizing and silencing female voices it was so obvious that I can't give much benefit of the doubt to supposedly moderate voices, and anyone still clinging to this "movement" are either Vichy or sockpuppets desperately trying to keep attention away from the harassers so they can continue their work ruining lives.
 
About how long is this going to continue? They gave up about Anita. And then they gave up about Dina. So how long?

Though I do find it funny about how fast Zoe threw Maya under the bus, I expected this to be over by now.
 
About how long is this going to continue? They gave up about Anita. And then they gave up about Dina. So how long?

Though I do find it funny about how fast Zoe threw Maya under the bus, I expected this to be over by now.

People never gave up on Anita. She probably gets harassed on a daily basis.
 
Since Jason is posting in here:

I want to link to this Slate article which I feel is a pretty good summary AND opinion piece.

Jason, I'd like your opinion on:

TFA said:
I generally don’t read gaming websites because I don’t like sifting through rewritten press releases and underage toothbrush incest anime coverage to find one or two genuine pieces of content. Instead I go to affable enthusiasts on YouTube and Twitch, people like

Now, while technically the article he links doesn't have "underage toothbrush incest" (unless that's what the anime is about but I don't see that in the article) I do have to agree with him in regards to the signal-noise for gaming "blogs" being too high on PR/unrelated stuff to where finding the actual useful stuff (like your articles on Crytek) is kinda hard to find or follow.

I'm curious your thoughts in regard to the signal-noise aspects of "games journalism" outside of "GamersGate," if you have any. I'd also like your opinion as a "games journalist" "combating" the new wave of Youtube "LetsPlays" showing games off than regurgitating PR press-releases as "previews." How is Kotaku/et. al. doing in regards to fighting that?
 
i personally just don't understand why it matters so much if some game writers don't like a certain segment of the gaming audience. there's plenty of sub-groups that generally dislike one another and don't intermingle, like you see every time there's a new thread about shooters ("i hate people who play CoD online") or especially MOBAs (basically the same sentiments but with far more vitriol directed at the communities). commentary on various aspects of game design is similarly acceptable or at the very least tolerated. you don't see huge twitter movements being started when someone writes an article criticizing the existence of superfluous multiplayer modes in games or shitty art design.

it really does just seem like it's only social criticisms of communities and game design that see these responses. hating a game's visuals is totally fine but hating its racist or sexist themes isn't.
 
can you name what those common issues are? i haven't seen any two people saying the same thing other than extremely vague statements about how game writers aren't "ethical"

For me it's more about issues with the relationship between developers, big pubs, and journalists/reviewers and the rush to shame and/or insult people who disagree with whatever perspective they identify with.
 
About how long is this going to continue?

It's going to require a concerted and vigilant effort on all powerholders and stakeholders in video games culture and industry. It's going to take time. All of these parties need to ensure in their own way how they have to curb the misogyny and racism and homophobia in video game culture (and beyond):

  • Players
  • Marketers
  • Communities
  • Moderators
  • Journalists
  • Publications
  • Celebritites / Media Personalities
  • Developers
  • Unions
  • Tournaments / E-sports events and organizations
  • Organizations
  • Publishers

E.g. developers could start by what Manveer Heir (Bioware Montreal, lead designer of Mass Effect 4) pointed towards yesterday on Twitter:

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That's one way for developers to make an impact. Also speak up publicly. Support people like Anita. Hire more people who aren't straight white males. Microfund smaller projects aimed at diversifying the landscape. That's just one party, e.g. the developer. You can probably come up with different measures and strategies for other parties, like publishers, publications, players, etc.
 
Now, while technically the article he links doesn't have "underage toothbrush incest" (unless that's what the anime is about but I don't see that in the article) I do have to agree with him in regards to the signal-noise for gaming "blogs" being too high on PR/unrelated stuff to where finding the actual useful stuff (like your articles on Crytek) is kinda hard to find or follow.

I'm curious your thoughts in regard to the signal-noise aspects of "games journalism" outside of "GamersGate," if you have any. I'd also like your opinion as a "games journalist" "combating" the new wave of Youtube "LetsPlays" showing games off than regurgitating PR press-releases as "previews." How is Kotaku/et. al. doing in regards to fighting that?

Well, the irony there (and one of the reasons that Slate piece misses the mark) is that the only real way outlets like Kotaku can afford to employ journalists who do real reporting is by posting a lot of content, some of which will inevitably be fluffy or uninteresting to some of our readership. I have no problem with this, and I have no problem with gamers using aggregation tools like GAF to sort out what they actually want to read. (Fortunately, GAF's mods are excellent about ensuring that content isn't stolen, and that readers have to actually go to sites like Kotaku if they want to see our work.)

Honestly, if I didn't write for Kotaku, I'd probably do the same thing. I'm certainly not interested in everything we publish, and again, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Though the YouTube landscape depresses me, I don't really see them as competitors. I think there will always be an audience for good writing, whether it's analysis of Final Fantasy XV or reporting on people going unpaid, and I don't think YouTube is ever going to replace that. I don't know whether the future will be more like Kotaku (lots of content, some of which is original, some of which isn't) or prestige sites funded by rich patrons and venture capitalists, but I do know that Kotaku's readership is growing every month, so hopefully we're around for a long time to come.
 
For me it's more about issues with the relationship between developers, big pubs, and journalists/reviewers and the rush to shame and/or insult people who disagree with whatever perspective they identify with.

to what extent? should all writers forgo any personal contact with devs/pubs? should it just be reviewers? or journalists? how can journalists do their jobs if they don't cultivate personal connections? what about people who mainly write editorials, features, and opinion pieces? why does it matter if they have developer friends?

what triggered this for you? was it the crazy indie conspiracy theories that have so far all been proven false?

is the "shaming and insulting" as you see it really that widespread? have you read all of these articles and do you get the actual points they were trying to make?

honestly this whole thing comes across to me as a bunch of people who cannot grasp any level of subtlety and are angry that there is games writing in existence that isn't catering to them. it certainly isn't a hugely prevalent trend because the vast majority of sites and writers out there are pumping out the usual press release coverage and reviews of games as a product.
 
Please. Take. It. To. PM.

When you publicly assert that someone is not arguing in good faith (assuming it's about the topic), you really don't get to demand that their response be relegated to a PM. The direct quote they responded with and the explanation of why they used the shorthand doesn't paint you in a good light. I tend to be at odds with Imru&#8217; al-Qays, but I don't understand why you consider a response to something you raised to be off-topic.
 
Though I do find it funny about how fast Zoe threw Maya under the bus, I expected this to be over by now.
Who is this and how/why was she thrown under the bus? This is becoming increasingly impossible to keep track of because the for/against sides are not even arguing about the same topics anymore. Hopefully it is over with in a while and the end result is all sites having very clear ethics and disclosure policies. That is probably the only positive outcome that can be wrung out of this insanity. More humility and respect towards customers certainly is not happening.
 
I also hope that everyone realize that this shit is not a single incident. This happens all the time. It's just something that everyone has been exposed to this time around. I.e. just because you don't hear about it, doesn't mean it 's not going on.

I really wish that this woke some folks up to the fact that this plays out constantly all over the place. And it's not just video games.
 
Well, the irony there (and one of the reasons that Slate piece misses the mark) is that the only real way outlets like Kotaku can afford to employ journalists who do real reporting is by posting a lot of content, some of which will inevitably be fluffy or uninteresting to some of our readership. I have no problem with this, and I have no problem with gamers using aggregation tools like GAF to sort out what they actually want to read. (Fortunately, GAF's mods are excellent about ensuring that content isn't stolen, and that readers have to actually go to sites like Kotaku if they want to see our work.)

Honestly, if I didn't write for Kotaku, I'd probably do the same thing. I'm certainly not interested in everything we publish, and again, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Though the YouTube landscape depresses me, I don't really see them as competitors. I think there will always be an audience for good writing, whether it's analysis of Final Fantasy XV or reporting on people going unpaid, and I don't think YouTube is ever going to replace that. I don't know whether the future will be more like Kotaku (lots of content, some of which is original, some of which isn't) or prestige sites funded by rich patrons and venture capitalists, but I do know that Kotaku's readership is growing every month, so hopefully we're around for a long time to come.

Why does it depress you?

I don't really see Youtube as a competitor to games journalism. I guess there are some people like TB who post long opinion pieces on it, but I don't think they'd call themselves journalists.
 
That's one way for developers to make an impact. Also speak up publicly. Support people like Anita. Hire more people who aren't straight white males. Microfund smaller projects aimed at diversifying the landscape. That's just one party, e.g. the developer. You can probably come up with different measures and strategies for other parties, like publishers, publications, players, etc.

If nothing else, more developers at major studios opening up about this undercuts a common narrative push: Poor AAA developers! Here you are, expressing your boundless artistic creativity. And all you get for it are brutalizing attacks by whiny people with too much time on their hands, making up all these fake issues no real peoples care about.
 
Why does it depress you?

I don't really see Youtube as a competitor to games journalism. I guess there are some people like TB who post long opinion pieces on it, but I don't think they'd call themselves journalists.

the youtube personality scene is currently a channel for unprecedented corporate control of public opinion. these guys have ridiculously large and fanatically loyal subscriber bases and far less exposure of ethics policies. people complaining about ethics in games writing and then treating youtubers as somehow more honest is hilarious to me because most of them are bought and paid for in ways that the old-school media never came close to.
 
And to add to my previous post, Gamergate might hopefully be put to rest now (with apologies from the people thinking it a glorious endeavour to defend against criticism), but the harassment is still there. Alexander just tweeted this:

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And Sarkeesian had child porn all over her Twitter yesterday.
 
Who is this and how/why was she thrown under the bus? This is becoming increasingly impossible to keep track of because the for/against sides are not even arguing about the same topics anymore. Hopefully it is over with in a while and the end result is all sites having very clear ethics and disclosure policies. That is probably the only positive outcome that can be wrung out of this insanity. More humility and respect towards customers certainly is not happening.

Maya Kramer is game developer. She also supposedly doxxed TFYC.
https://twitter.com/TFYCapitalists/status/508038021930033152
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When you publicly assert that someone is not arguing in good faith (assuming it's about the topic), you really don't get to demand that their response be relegated to a PM. The direct quote they responded with and the explanation of why they used the shorthand doesn't paint you in a good light. I tend to be at odds with Imru’ al-Qays, but I don't understand why you consider a response to something you raised to be off-topic.

You win, I'll stop posting.
 
It depresses me because of stuff like this.

It's not like that's unprecedented though? Fake "Viral" news has been part of the publishers strategy for years. Before youtube, it was fansites and comments on message boards, but the effect was the same.

I FEEL like most of the time, the consumer can tell when someone is trying to be nice to a game (Say, because he was payed off) instead of being frank about it.
 
And to add to my previous post, Gamergate might hopefully be put to rest now (with apologies from the people thinking it a glorious endeavour to defend against criticism), but the harassment is still there. Alexander just tweeted this:

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And Sarkeesian had child porn all over her Twitter yesterday.

yeah that won't happen.

from looking at twitter a lot of these people just completely disassociate with the trolls and claim gamergate has nothing to do with them. Or they claim it doesn't matter what the origins of the movement were as long as they can change it into a force for good.

long story short they don't see gamergate as being co-opted by trolls
 
Since Jason is posting in here:

I want to link to this Slate article which I feel is a pretty good summary AND opinion piece.

Jason, I'd like your opinion on:

Now, while technically the article he links doesn't have "underage toothbrush incest" (unless that's what the anime is about but I don't see that in the article) I do have to agree with him in regards to the signal-noise for gaming "blogs" being too high on PR/unrelated stuff to where finding the actual useful stuff (like your articles on Crytek) is kinda hard to find or follow.

I'm curious your thoughts in regard to the signal-noise aspects of "games journalism" outside of "GamersGate," if you have any. I'd also like your opinion as a "games journalist" "combating" the new wave of Youtube "LetsPlays" showing games off than regurgitating PR press-releases as "previews." How is Kotaku/et. al. doing in regards to fighting that?

Part of the problem is the "signal," deep investigative pieces, take a long time to research and put together. You can't sustain a website on those pieces.

For example, here's the front page of the Washington Post:
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Like most online news sites, it's a mix of original long content, investigative journalism, regurgitated news, opinion-editorials, videos, and even list articles. Not that much different from something like Kotaku or Polygon.

Here's the New York Times:
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And CNN:
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Read all the headlines. They run the full gamut from serious stories and fluff. Primarily because people like to read the fluff too.

On the LetsPlays side, there's nothing to combat really. You're seeing many outlets doing their own form of that content, like GameSpot's extensive streaming of P.T. What's there to fear when you can do it yourself? Especially since some YouTubers operate without any ethical codes. It's a relatively young medium.

The media in any sector, regardless of what everyone thinks, has always been a complete reflection of what audiences read and consume.

Is there a relationship between journalists and those they cover? Of course, that's how great journalism works. For example, VICE's amazing Islamic State work, where did that come from?

VICE News reporter Medyan Dairieh spent three weeks embedded with the Islamic State, gaining unprecedented access to the group in Iraq and Syria as the first and only journalist to document its inner workings.

That doesn't happen because they see "journalist" and say "okay". That happens because journalists make connections and relationships in search of the story.

Sutcliffe approached Dairieh, who previously made Vice documentaries about the battle for Aleppo and how British citizens are fighting with jihadists in Syria. Using his extensive contacts in the region, Dairieh managed to secure access to the Islamic State-controlled area of Syria, which has been mired for years in a devastating civil war.

Not surprisingly, Dairieh couldn&#8217;t travel as he pleased during the roughly 10 days he spent in Syria last month. And gun-toting Islamic militants were always nearby. Despite these restrictions, Sutcliffe insisted Vice was still able to tell a compelling story.

&#8220;We&#8217;re showing you what&#8217;s going on there,&#8221; Sutcliffe said, adding that Dairieh was able to ask good questions throughout. &#8220;There&#8217;s been a lot of stuff about the frontline activity, but to try and understand what a very hardline, conservative Islamic state would feel like, that&#8217;s what I thought was more interesting.&#8221;

And the vantage point was unique. "At the moment, we think he&#8217;s the only person they&#8217;ve let in for this amount of time," Sutcliffe said.

Watergate? The story many hold up as great journalism? It's because of friendship and connections.

Woodward had befriended Felt years earlier, and had consulted with him on stories before the Watergate scandal. Woodward, Bernstein, and others credit the information provided by Deep Throat with being instrumental in ensuring the success of the investigation into the Watergate Scandal.

That's how journalism works. Are there lines? Of course, which is why code of ethics are needed, but journalism is predicated on access, which requires either outright theft or an inside source.

Most things reported on in our industry aren't life or death. In fact, you normally hear about big stories like that when the inside sources have little to lose, like the Crytek story or Team Bondi's fall. When everyone's happy and getting paid, there's no need to whistleblow, but when your company hasn't paid you for a month or more, then of course you'll talk about everything that's going wrong. (Anonymously, because you still need to find another job.)

Real journalism is predicated on relationships providing access.

I admit that I probably gave a bit more than what you expected when you asked Jason.
 
This is a good article on how the 4chan cretins did the exact same tactic towards Black American women: http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/your-slip-is-showing-4chan-trolls-operation-lollipop

For almost a year now, male trolls have been masquerading as women of color online, in a concerted effort to discredit the entire online feminist movement, or at least make feminists look bad. Under the code name Operation: Lollipop, these young men&#8212;trolls that organize on 4chan&#8217;s /pol/ board and document their successes on Tumblr&#8212;pretended to be black and Asian activists spouting radical agenda as far back as August of 2013.

The 4chan ruse ended last Friday when media pointed out their hashtags #WhitesCantBeRaped and #EndFathersDay were hoaxes, and the actual Twitter feminist @sasycrass took the time to compile a list of the fake accounts under the #YourSlipIsShowing hashtag. The jig was officially up, the cloud of subterfuge dissipating, but not before a silver lining had revealed itself: Feminists of color had very publicly become such an integral part of the feminist movement that trolls thought they were the vehicle to end all feminism online.

source: http://motherboard.vice.com/en_uk/blog/trolls-4chan-online-feminism-women-of-color
 
It's just making me very sad how successful certain people are being at continuing to stir this up and keep it a battle rather than a discussion.

People here in the past few days have been calling for everyone to stand down, stop associating themselves with gamergate, etc. I agree with that sentiment. But the natural outcome of people doing that is that the hashtag and the loud movement surrounding it is going to get MORE vitriolic in the short term, as the more reasonable people quiet down and stop talking, leaving the assholes as the only remaining voices.

I think we've seen that happen on both sides as things started to get a little more cuddly around here. The timing of some of these new developments is probably not an accident.

At some point you guys just have to be willing to stop yelling until it all quiets down, even if the more provocative among us keep dropping exciting little scandals that seem like they'd be fun to join in on.
 
to what extent? should all writers forgo any personal contact with devs/pubs? should it just be reviewers? or journalists? how can journalists do their jobs if they don't cultivate personal connections? what about people who mainly write editorials, features, and opinion pieces? why does it matter if they have developer friends?

what triggered this for you? was it the crazy indie conspiracy theories that have so far all been proven false?

is the "shaming and insulting" as you see it really that widespread? have you read all of these articles and do you get the actual points they were trying to make?

honestly this whole thing comes across to me as a bunch of people who cannot grasp any level of subtlety and are angry that there is games writing in existence that isn't catering to them. it certainly isn't a hugely prevalent trend because the vast majority of sites and writers out there are pumping out the usual press release coverage and reviews of games as a product.

No, I don't care much about Zoe or any of the indie conspiracy theories. As far as connections go, yes I do believe that they could lead to bias and unfair coverage and that if such a connection does exist, maybe they aren't the ideal person or even group of people to cover that topic. Then again, if they identified those connections from the start, most people wouldn't have any issues.

I am not angry nor do I believe that all journalists are corrupt. I follow a few smaller sites to keep up to date with new videogames and issues. If anything I'm just jaded and have very little faith in the gaming industry as a whole.
 
So uh, has there been any articles on this latest revelation?

Totilo addressed it in his statement. The logs weren't out then, but he basically said what many of us have been saying for a couple days now (that the origins of the movement wasn't 100% about corruption, but instead was an outlet to attack those in the industry a certain group doesn't want in this industry. Or rather, he addressed that some people within GG were using it for those reasons ).

If anyone does cover this stuff with the chat logs, they have to be careful to not say the entire GG thing is 100% about this. Because clearly it isn't. Tons of people are joining GG for different reasons now (and many of them have already become alienated by some poor messaging). Although I would appreciate some opinion pieces on this whole thing, questioning the legitimacy of a campaign that has a shaky foundation. Basically, what's already been said in this thread I guess could make for some good opinion pieces.
 
So, If I have tallied things correctly:
A public IRC log saying the same things you could see on public board /v/ for the last two weeks at least is proof of a conspiracy where hundreds or thousands were mindlessly led on, and a few accounts proven fake makes dozens upon dozens of others where people have posted their pictures with identification also fake and it's a movement solely about targeting women and weaponizing minorities.
And I read an article cited as exposition saying 4chan was also behind the bomb threat of the plane where the Sony executive was.

The last 24 hours have been amusing
 
Really embarrassing that all Quinn did was screencapping in order all the stuff that has been known and show in 4chan and even a couple of new members from here, the problematic thing is that some journalists and personalities called for fairness and even reporting while throwing their support at one side without knowing the whole story, thats having a cake and eating it too.
I wish everyone on #GamerGate would read this post. Hell, I wish everyone on NeoGAF would read this post.

You could hire him, I think that particular poster decided to leave writing about the industry because his particular voice is too unique and even unwanted at some places. ;)
 
So uh, has there been any articles on this latest revelation?

To be frank, I find it incredibly worrying that that games news sites still haven't covered the orchestrated harassment that is causing their women writers to leave them.

If anyone does cover this stuff with the chat logs, they have to be careful to not say the entire GG thing is 100% about this. Because clearly it isn't. Tons of people are joining GG for different reasons now (and many of them have already become alienated by some poor messaging). Although I would appreciate some opinion pieces on this whole thing, questioning the legitimacy of a campaign that has a shaky foundation.

Except that it is pretty easy to avoid making blanket statements generalizing the movement. You simply write that the movement was a hoax to harass women in the games industry and culture and that its supporters have been unwittingly supporting and defending it. Shit, I've seen Tweets that perfectly encapsulate the debacle with sufficient nuance.
 
An article on what? A bunch of taken out of contect IRC messages?

No, writing an article on this would just ignite this whole shitstorm for a third time. Let it DIE.
 
To be frank, I find it incredibly worrying that that games news sites still haven't covered the orchestrated harassment that is causing their women writers to leave them.
Yeah.

Like, wait, just Examiner? Well I guess it's the weekend but...
 
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