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THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
All console track records are like that.
GameStop: "the flood gates are open for PS4 system reserves"
- Thread starter LiK
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All console track records are like that.
castaction
Member
shit early september man I am thinking more in october props to sony if they can do it for september
Dead Prince
Banned
the OG ps3 were legit. tbh.
My iPad box doesn't have the iPad on it
Roland1979
Junior Member
As I posted earlier:
Actually it might sound strange but I expected them to do it all along.
They "allowed" Xbox to announce first, caught them by surprise. We all know the PR disaster which may not have been caused by it but there was panic by MS and it showed.
They "allow" MS to launch first (MS=fall vs Sony=holidays). Maybe they will hit the stores early October.
Maybe not but it might be one of the last moves on this well played game of chess of Sony vs MS. The previous situation was Sony had a check on MS, MS pulled a castling.
Will Sony's next move be a checkmate?
Can't execute a castling when checked in the real chess game, not allowed, IRL you can
Well my launch 60gb and my fat 80gb are still both going strong, but I also take extremely good care of it though. Of course hardware malfunctioning is possible, but it's not like there was some systemic issue with the console. Get an extended warranty if you are feeling insecure.
Huh? Yeah they do.
anexanhume
Member
Uhhh, which iPad do you have?
LiquidSolid
Member
Yeah and when they did break, 9/10 it was because of the BD drives, as they were still really new tech when they first came out. They shouldn't have that issue at all with the PS4.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Yes, in product terms I think 5-7m would be a regular sized launch of a big product. It could be done. In console terms, no one has ever done it because of the tech that is normally involved. MS launched with an almost experimental GPU in the 360, Sony did launch with an experimental CPU in the PS3. Before that PS2 needed a lot of specialist manufacturing capability, EE+GS was actually made in house at Sony and required Sony's semiconductor's business to invest a shit load to get production up to speed, and back then Sony never really outsourced so the shortages lasted for almost a year while capacity was brought online.
Now with TSMC making the APU, Hynix and Samsung making the GDDR5 RAM and Toshiba making the HDDs and Blu-ray drives, the PS4 is the first real outsourced console, which means they can place big parts orders and let the suppliers worry about delivering.
September is out of the question. Even if Sony is ready to go on the hardware side, the software would not be ready at that point.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
There is some word now that GS may be closing down PS4 pre-orders with XB1 pre-orders.
IS this true?
IS this true?
If it's true we'll know tomorrow - the rumor states that today is the last day before preorders are shut down for good...
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
No, confirmed no by my manager friends at FS. I'm tight w them because we used to work together. No communication received stating this(for ps4), at least. They did not mention the XB1, but I assume the same
CF_Fighter
Member
Couple quick questions on System Reserves, can I just go in and put 20 bucks down on a system like a game? Can I reserve a system by itself or do I have to get one of the game bundles?
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
In store at GS(don't know about other stores) you can do system by itself, but I think it's a hundred down. Not sure, I full paid mine, so.. Someone would need to confirm
At Gamestop the minimum is $100 down, yes.
Septimus Prime
Member
Quick aside: It's ironic that Toshiba is the one making the BD drives now, considering that Toshiba was the proprietor and champion of HD DVD back in the day.
Schweinehund
Member
Amazon assured me of launch day shipment, that is all I need.
In Canada you only need 50 down.
ProfessorMoran
Member
It's all just business, it's not like Sony and Toshiba are mortal enemies, they've worked together before the whole BD vs HD-DVD war, it's almost like warlords in feudal Japan.
Lagspike_exe
Member
You don't seem to understand the Japanese concept of honour (I'm an expert).
Pristine_Condition
Member
This is true. Foxconn has mastered industrial engineering, production ramping and the like to an unprecedented level in the industry. Shipping 30+ million units of a top-of-the-line cellphone in a quarter is no big deal these days. Samsung's S4 ramp target was 10 million units shipped per week.
It's all about business, in PS3 launch Sony and Toshiba were rivals with Blu-Ray vs HDDVD and partners in Cell's development,
dragonbane
Member
Ugh, that is just brutal. Goddamn...
Never underestimate the power of PlayStation.
Septimus Prime
Member
I know. I just mean it would've been really hard to imagine around 06-07. It's kind of like Sonic being on Nintendo consoles.
EDIT:
Wasn't there a rumor around then that suggested that Toshiba was considering constraining Cell supplies to Sony due to the format war? I don't think it ever came to pass--much like Samsung supplying iPhone parts for years.
how do you know? I preordered one on amazon too minutes after the conference but all mine says is before December 31st.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Well Sony shut down Optiarc earlier this year IIRC, so Toshiba are one of the few companies left that make high quality BD drives.
demosthenes
Member
Do you have a launch edition PS4 or standard edition?
Schweinehund
Member
Yeah you should have a launch edition. I preordered mine like a week after their conference and they sent me an email saying it was upgraded to launch edition, and to change it to 2 day shipping to recieve it when it launches. This is off the US amazon website.
If you have a launch edition on Amazon you're probably safe.
smokeandmirrors
Banned
But that's just funny money, you need yourself some real American Dollars!
Vane_MagicCity
Banned
Why are people pre-ordering after RROD and YLOD? By now people should know to wait and see what hardware problems crop up before buying. Besides, it's not like pre-ordering guarantees that you'll get one at launch.
That is a valid point.
Also, you think if I pre-ordered a bundle, I would be more likely to be guaranteed to get mine should their be a shortage? I also pre-ordered this morning so I think I should be well in the queue that I should be okay in either case.
That's what the warranty is for. And I have a launch edition, so yes I'll get one at launch.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I didn't think about it but since you said so, it must be so!
anexanhume
Member
YLOD was only between 3-7%. These boxes use less power. Xbone is cooling overkill and PS4 is vented to hell and back. Cooling in tight spaces has advanced a lot since 2005 thanks to 100W laptop GPUs. I'm not worried.
neobiz
Member
You too?
Can this be done with Consoles bought at Gamestop?
Vane_MagicCity
Banned
Did the warranty help early adopters of the 360 who got the RROD? Didn't Microsoft drag their feet on even acknowledging the problem?
The original 360's didn't cool properly not because of technology, but because of design and that could easily happen again.
My launch NES, SNES, and N64 still work like a charm.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
So can we expect at least five million units by the end of the year, worldwide? I think Sony was aiming for 2 million PS3's between Japan and NA at launch.
Pristine_Condition
Member
Because it's 2013 and manufacturers know what they are doing with lead-free solder now.
yes, they try to get me to buy one on every piece of hardware I get from them. No reason to assume these will be different.
Vane_MagicCity
Banned
The PS1 had hardware problems, remember having to turn the thing upside down? The PS2 had hardware problems, remember the DVD drive not playing games?
If I had told you in 2006 "Don't worry, Sony has learned to make Optical drives properly". Would it have saved you from a YLOD?
The XBOX had drive problems too and if I had told you in 2006 "Don't worry, Microsoft surely knows how to design hardware better now". Would that have saved you from RROD?
All I am saying is that after last gen, I would think people wouldn't be so quick to jump on first run hardware. It may not be overheating this time and it may not be faulty optical drives but it could be anything.
Anyway, I am done, do what you want with your money.
Understandable, though the 1st model PS3's held up pretty darn well, for the most part. These should hold up better, since the bulk of the parts are pretty darn conventional.
Yet despite all these things I honestly don't think gamers care lol.
RROD was massive on unproportionate scales yet MS did pretty well.
Watch dogs is a day 1 title isn't it? And Ubi have confirmed a date 19-22 Nov.
