Gawker Founder Nick Denton pens op-ed on Hulk Hogan verdict

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True, but there were some that basically said they wouldn't have touched it either. Everyone that works for them isn't the complete scum of the earth.

No of course not, but at the same time, they know who they are working for. Something like this happening seemed inevitable.
 
After shit like the Gawker Stalker controversy, every employee should have known what kind of employer they were working for, and what might happen down the road in terms of a crippling lawsuit.
 
After shit like the Gawker Stalker controversy, every employee should have known what kind of employer they were working for, and what might happen down the road in terms of a crippling lawsuit.
Note to everyone: that Stalker nonsense literally launched a decade ago.

Gawker being absolute heels is not new information.
 
I don't think Gawker can actually file an appeal, afaik its one of the states that requires a supersedeas bond posted before an appeal is allowed, and the bond must cover the judgement amount but not to exceed $50m. They don't have $50m in cash and no one in the world is going to loan them $50m that is almost certainly going to go to Hulk Hogan when they lose the appeal.

Maybe they can start a indiegogo
 
I hope Kotaku gets sold to at least a semi reputable company, and doesn't have to fire anyone. Gawker and Jezebel can burn for all I care. The rest I can't comment on.
 
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I almost for a second there thought I was going to see some admission of guilt or an apology or SOMETHING. Instead he just doubles down? Goddamn Nick just fucking go home, it's over.
 
GORILLA: LOOK AT THAT BRAIN, HE HIT THE LEG DROP.
HEENAN: He's a cheat Monsoon, a coward. Gawker did nothing wrong.

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GORILLA: GAWKER KICKED OUT I CAN'T BELIEVE IT.
HEENAN: YES... YES... TAKE THAT HOGAN. CHOKE ON THAT.
GORILLA: WILL YOU STOP!

Classic. Now do one with Ventura!

Heenan is wrestling's best color commentator. He and Gorilla were great together.
 
Yeah even if you agreed with their initial stand (which I don't), ignoring the judge's order to take the video down was some next level stupid.

This did not happen.

They were ordered to take the video down, and they took the video down.

What you're thinking of is that the judge's order went further, and demanded they also take down the article that contained a description of the contents of the video. They refused to take that down, and that's what the infamous article is written about. Gawker successfully won an appeal of that order.
 

There's really no other way to explain the horrifying lack of empathy so many of them show, time and time again, when women of all levels of fame are treated like they exist to be bullied and mocked.
....and then they wrote a piece about Amy Pascal using pubic hair dye which they found out about by skimming through her private emails.

http://jezebel.com/this-is-amazing-amy-pascals-cheap-crotch-intensive-bea-1698863025
 
I'm so confused as to why he thinks the fact that Hogan has been open about his sex life suddenly makes it open season to everything related to his sex life. Shouldn't it ultimately, ideally, be up to the person themselves to be the gatekeeper of what details are public knowledge?

I hope these twits end up penniless and unemployable.
 
Slut shaming again?

I honestly can't remember, what was Gawker stance when the female celebrities images leaked on the internet and everything went wild? And didn't sites like Reddit demanded its users not to post them? If anyone can clear up how these two situations are different for me I would appreciate it. But I'm expecting the answers will be "They are women" or "HH is a racist so he deserved it from Gawker's POV"

What does any part of this have to do with "slut-shaming"? Where is this coming from?

Yeah even if you agreed with their initial stand (which I don't), ignoring the judge's order to take the video down was some next level stupid.

Gawker was kind of vindicated for that, tho. The appeals judge reversed that injunction.
 
I mean, as much glee as I take in the decision, you're right, he could at least make a decent argument that the verdict was unfair and not in the pursuit of justice.

But Denton is an abject moron and apparently doesn't have the common sense to actually pursue an avenue conducive to his own case.

Agreed. I think "be a prick" is the one and only defense mechanism he has.
 
I don't think it's been brought up ITT, but I wanted to point out that legally, public figures (which would generally include celebrities) do in fact have a lesser privacy right than non public figures. I'm not an expert on it but Wikipedia may be a good starting point:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_figure

I'm still glad to see Gawker burn.

Correct. However, Gawker is in the wrong here because a secret sex tape would not be excused because of a public figure. Also Gawker blackmailing Hogan would fall under the malicious exception.
 
Can somebody explain to me Gawker's website naming convention? Do they just make up name base on sounds or they combine actual words?
 
Isn't that the same logic people used to defend The Fappening? The event that Gawker itself chastised back when it broke out?

You can attack Hogan's character as much you want, he is a racist asshole after all, but that doesn't make the bullshit Gawker pulled here okay. If it wasn't going to be Hogan that brought them down, it was probably going to be that horrible article from last year where they abetted fucking blackmail against someone that the general public never even heard of beforehand. Spare me the "narrow expectation of privacy" crap, your site had an addiction to dicking people over for quick clicks and couldn't have come down sooner.

I only feel sorry for the writers who had nothing to do with any of this and will be out of a job soon because some idiot up top wanted to stand on a hill over a gross misunderstanding of how Public Interest works. Other than that? Bon voyage, this shit overstayed its welcome.
 
Let's also not forget that Gawker/Gizmodo were behind the shenanigans surrounding the iPhone 4-leak. Shady all around.
 
Since when is Hogan some uber publicity whore? He's barely even a celebrity. Even if this was one of Kardashians his logic would still be total shit.

Yup.

It could have been a freaking Porn Star and it still would have been wrong. You don't just get to post illegally recorded sex tapes and pass them off as news just because one of the subjects is famous.
 
If this all goes as expected in the courts, Gawker Media, LLC will have to declare bankruptcy and sell off its assets, which means the actual brands of Kotaku, Jezebel, Gizmodo, etc. will simply be bought by other owners, and several of them will likely continue in a similar fashion. I wouldn't be surprised if most of Kotaku remains employed after an acquisition, as they are a valuable brand. This guy's being a douche, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to lose their jobs guaranteed.
 
Yup.

It could have been a freaking Porn Star and it still would have been wrong. You don't just get to post illegally recorded sex tapes and pass them off as news just because one of the subjects is famous.

You don't get to post legally recorded sex tapes either. Posting sex tapes is always a no-no. There's a reason no one else does it.
 
Can somebody explain to me Gawker's website naming convention? Do they just make up name base on sounds or they combine actual words?
All the sites have some reason behind them

Gawker: About "gawking" at celebrities
Kotaku: About nerdy, aka "otaku" culture
Gizmodo: About electronics or "gizmos."
LifeHacker: About "hacking life" with shortcuts and homemade solutions
Jezebel: About "feminism," takes its name ironically (I guess?) from the term a "jezebel," aka "a wicked, shameless woman" (derived from a Biblical story).
 
They should write about the ONE RULE Denton(?) said about celebrities under the age of four. Then stand by it and have their employees stand by it.

It was Daulerio who said it. The former EIC who wrote the Hogan article and was later sort-of-fired/sort-of-forced out, but not over this.

"Umm excuuuse me your Honor I was being ironic...duh!"

Why on earth would you choose to be "flippant" in court of all places. Why didn't he just go and pen an article; "You won't believe the hot snark I dropped in court today"

If Gawker does go under I'd pay a good chunk of money to read a tell all account of what the fuck it was like to work there, because the people at the top sound like real swell dudes.

He made those remarks while giving a deposition and not in court.

He's still a fucking dumbass with no real sense of decorum or consequences and a massively inflated ego.
 
After shit like the Gawker Stalker controversy, every employee should have known what kind of employer they were working for, and what might happen down the road in terms of a crippling lawsuit.
Pretty much, if you work for a different controversial employer like say.. Philip Morris or Halliburton instead of Kotaku.. you should be angry at your employer for being scum if you loose your job cus of a lawsuit and no one else.

This kinda funny cus I was offered a job offer at Halliburton and turned it down even though the pay was damn good. I just couldn't do it. They're going through job cuts atm so it was the right move lol
 
I am convinced Gawker could get Roman Reigns over with the smarks.
I think they really could.

It's actually amazing.. Even before the racist comments, it's by and large known by wrestling fans that Hogan was an a huge asshole and even after that, the racism, all his fuckery.. He is still the lesser of two evils by comparison.. It's astounding.
 
All the sites have some reason behind them

Gawker: About "gawking" at celebrities
Kotaku: About nerdy, aka "otaku" culture
Gizmodo: About electronics or "gizmos."
LifeHacker: About "hacking life" with shortcuts and homemade solutions
Jezebel: About "feminism," takes its name ironically (I guess?) from the term a "jezebel," aka "a wicked, shameless woman" (derived from a Biblical story).

Not that it matters a ton, but Gizmodo and Lifehacker were independent blogs that Gawker bought.
 
Not that it matters a ton, but Gizmodo and Lifehacker were independent blogs that Gawker bought.

Are you sure? Everything I'm finding shows that both sites originated inside the Gawker empire from the start.

EDIT: Yeah, that's totally incorrect:


And from a New York Time profile:


From everything I can find, every single current Gawker site started as a Gawker site. They did not purchase any.

They have, however, sold off several, including Wonkette and The Consumerist.
 
Interesting read, Unsealed evidence proves Hulk Hogan's lawsuit was a sham

Statements from witness Bubba Clem say Hogan knew he was being filmed, that the camera was in obvious view, and how it was "not unusual for Heather to tape herself having sex."

Gawker was also barred from revealing to the jury that a federal judge and three members of Florida's Second District Court of Appeal had already deemed the story and video excerpt Gawker published to be protected under the First Amendment as a matter of general interest and public concern.

Why wasn't this evidence shown in open court?
 
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