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btkadams said:
good. i've gotten over the whole married thing and am just going to enjoy myself. i think it's silly to consider ending something now over something that is still so uncertain and obviously far off, so yeah i'm fine :)

Nice to know all is alright ^^
 
Advocate said:
Singer Ari Gold and his boyfriend were told to move to the back of the bus for holding hands, he said Sunday on Facebook.

When Gold refused, the Shortline bus driver pulled over and called the police.

Gold said "we were both listening to Whitney Houston on an iPod double jack and loving her love songs," and holding hands, when the driver pulled over to tell us to "stop sitting in the front." Gold said no, "and that's when the driver called the state trooper."

(RELATED INTERVIEW: What Really Happened to Ari Gold?)

When the state troopers arrived, Gold said they told the bus driver "there was nothing illegal about the way we were sitting." Still, Gold says he and his boyfriend were again told they could move to the back of the bus and resolve the problem.

"We said no," and asked to file a police report but the officers "quickly exited the bus, leaving ours and the other passengers safety in the hands of a dissatisfied, discriminatory, and mad driver," according to Gold, who said he couldn't get badge numbers for the officers.

Gold said he stood up to the driver "despite my racing heart." Things could have easily escalated. "The only thing I could do is make sure my boyfriend stayed calm," said Gold. "I was afraid he was going to lose it."

The Village Voice's Michael Musto was first to report the incident, and Shortline sent him a response, saying it will investigate Gold's account of what happened.

"We do not condone or endorse the actions taken by this one driver. His actions are not representative of the management of our company," wrote George Grieve, president of Hudson Transit Lines, which owns Shortline. "We will continue to investigate this incident until we are sure we have all the facts at which time we will take the appropriate disciplinary and remedial action. We apologize for the insensitive action of our driver and can assure you we will take the necessary steps to make sure this does not happen again."

Click here for the direct link.

I personally believe it was because they were listening to Whitney Houston.
 
So my best friend and roommate has met a new friend via facebook that he hangs out with a lot. They're both in relationships and so they go on double dates and what-not. Which is totally fine by me. Recently my roommate has been bringing him around and he's started hanging with us and our general friend circle, sans his boyfriend. He fits in with our friends great, everyone likes him.

And this was all completely cool...until about two weeks or so ago.

One night the three of us were out at a bar (me, my roommate, and the guy) just chillin' out, when the guy casually mentions that he's meeting up with a guy from Grindr later that night to hook up, to which I reply. "Oh, so you and your man are in an open relationship?"

"Nope."

"So, you're cheating on him?"

"Kinda."

Upon further conversation I learn that the guy not only regularly cheats on his boyfriend of over ten years, but that he has no intention of stopping or telling his boyfriend, who he knows would be really heartbroken if he ever found out. I also found out that my roommate has not only been aware of this, but that he somewhat indulges it...just by knowing about it and not criticizing him, and even cheering him on when he hooks up with a hot guy. Needless to say I was stunned. I was told to keep it a secret, since none of our other friends knew and he told me in confidence because he "liked" me. I asked him why he thought that was ok, and he responded with "I know it's not ok. But my ex-boyfriend broke my heart and it never healed and I don't think I'll ever be faithful to another man bla bla bla"

Complete and total bullshit.

I yelled at my roommate about it when we got home, and his position was basically "it's his business and it doesn't affect me or my friendship with him, so why should I care?"

And I suppose I can see his point. I mean, until that night I thought the guy was really awesome, and his cheating doesn't really hurt anyone but him and his boyfriend. But then again, I couldn't get over hanging out with someone who would do something so awful to someone else, even if it didn't effect me personally. You gotta have some standards, right?

But my roommate insists on hanging out with him and bringing him around our other friends. So I figured that as long as he didn't flaunt this around me and I didn't meet his boyfriend, I could sort of forget about it.

Then he started bringing his boyfriend around.

And, worse yet, his boyfriend is awesome. A little socially awkward, but a complete sweetheart. We all hung out this weekend, and besides buying everyone a round of drinks he was just a cool guy all around, and obviously in love with the skeeze. meanwhile my roommate is sitting next to both of them, laughing it up like he doesn't know anything.

I told my roommate later that I couldn't continue pretending. It was one thing to know that skeeze is cheating on his boyfriend who I don't personally know. But it's another thing to know this while he's bringing said awesome boyfriend around and we're developing a friendship. My roommate's opinion hasn't changed at all. Doesn't hurt him so he doesn't care.

But now I'm not sure what to do. Usually, I would just avoid obvious drama like this, but my roommate has no problem with it, and he's most likely going to keep bringing The Skeeze and Awesome Boyfriend around. I would have to distance myself from my entire friend group to avoid it completely. I'm not going to do that...but it now sucks when these two come around, knowing that The Skeeze is a whore and that his boyfriend is completely oblivious. And then there's my roommate in the midst of it all, completely ok with all of it. Honestly, I don't know if I respect him for that.

What would any of you do?

EDIT: Sorry. Didn't know how long this was until I typed it out...

2ND EDIT: Only my roommate is in a "new" relationship.
 
Well, it didn't go the way I thought it would.

That's a very tricky situation, I wouldn't really know how to react but I would most certainly feel the way you do about it.

I'm ok with people having open relationships, I'm not ok with people cheating on their boyfriends and hiding it. The excuse he gave is so ridiculous you should have slapped him right there.

I have been in a "similar" situation where I was very close to 2 friends that were a couple. I ended up going to college with one of them and she kinda had this phase where she wanted to see other things and date other guys so she kinda cheated (as in just making out, no sex) on my other friend who wasn't in the same college as we were.
Since I was her roommate, I knew about it and I didn't really know what to do. In the end I just told her that if she wanted to see other things, she should at least take responsibility and break up with my friend and do the whole thing clean and proper before anyone gets incredibly hurt.

Long story short, they broke up, did their own thing and eventually got back together and now are getting married.

In your case though, I can totally understand why you would be disappointed in the guy. He might be a nice friend but he's a total douche when it comes to love.
I'm guessing that the only thing you can do is try and distance yourself from him. I don't know if you guys hang out all together all the time, but if not that should be doable. If you do, just try and talk to other people instead of him.
Ultimately it is their problem and I think you shouldn't get involved except if they are VERY close to you.
 
royalan said:

The guy sounds like a real sleazeball and his BF probably deserves better. That said, you should stay out of it.

Ask yourself, how do you know the other guy doesn't cheat? Or have his own skeletons? Better yet, if you did something crazy like spilled the beans, how do you even know how his BF would react? Likely, they'd 'work it out' and you'd make some new enemies. Being the moral police rarely, if ever, works out.
 
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is my new heartthrob of the moment. Hot dude, jazz piano prodigy since age 14, plays amazing music.

Marry me, Taylor Eigsti!
 
royalan said:
So my best friend and roommate has met a new friend via facebook that he hangs out with a lot. They're both in relationships and so they go on double dates and what-not. Which is totally fine by me. Recently my roommate has been bringing him around and he's started hanging with us and our general friend circle, sans his boyfriend. He fits in with our friends great, everyone likes him......

Stay out of it. If it bothers you that much (and it should.. I know it would annoy the hell out of me to be in the company of such slime) then your only option is to avoid hanging out with the guy and his bf. Then again, maybe the bf is cheating on the guy too, who knows.

Personally I do my best to avoid guys like that as friends reflect who you are. It's definitely a tough situation, but stick to your morals, don't let anyone force you to compromise, especially just for the sake of socializing.
 
HappyPuppy said:
^ Holy Mierda he is hot and hairy, since I like jazz I'm going to give him a try. Thanks man.
*Holy shit chest hair.
You should hear him cover Herbie Hancock's Butterfly w/ Gretchen Parlato.

ohhhh my god

I just about creamed my pants
 
Personally, I would assess the situation and go over the pros and cons, but I would probably tell the boyfriend. I've been cheated on and it sucks. I wish someone would have told ME, so I would do that favor for someone else.
 
It's only a matter a time before the boyfriend finds out. Your roommate is a loser too. He buys you all drinks, makes an effort to befriend you all, is a "sweetheart" and meanwhile you guys (not you specifically) keep this secret from him. It may not be your place to say anything to him, but the circle of friends you keep is rather questionable. You sound like a better man than them that's for sure.

Can you send him an anonymous message over FB or something?
 
Oyashiro said:
Personally, I would assess the situation and go over the pros and cons, but I would probably tell the boyfriend. I've been cheated on and it sucks. I wish someone would have told ME, so I would do that favor for someone else.
+1

I would try to get to know if the boyfriend is cheating too or not, and would tell him anyway.
 
Wouldn't telling the bf just open a can of worms though? To me doing that just sounds like a recipe for disaster, especially if you don't really know the dynamic of the relationship (i.e. their history, nature of relationship - open or monogamous, etc).

Two of my good friends, who incidentally have been seeing each other for the past year or so have come to me in confidence that each has cheated on the other at least once since they started dating. I know they're happy together but it's none of my business to go back and tell the other they've been cheated on. Different situation I know, but just going back to the whole "you should really just stay out of it" stance as by prying further or getting involved you don't really know what the outcome will be.
 
Scythe27 said:
Wouldn't telling the bf just open a can of worms though? To me doing that just sounds like a recipe for disaster, especially if you don't really know the dynamic of the relationship (i.e. their history, nature of relationship - open or monogamous, etc).

Two of my good friends, who incidentally have been seeing each other for the past year or so have come to me in confidence that each has cheated on the other at least once since they started dating. I know they're happy together but it's none of my business to go back and tell the other they've been cheated on. Different situation I know, but just going back to the whole "you should really just stay out of it" stance as by prying further or getting involved you don't really know what the outcome will be.

He knows they're not in an open relationship, and that the guy has no intention of stopping his indiscretions because "he had his heart broken and can't trust anyone" and he doesn't want to hurt the other guy so he's not telling him shit.
 
Alcoori said:
He knows they're not in an open relationship, and that the guy has no intention of stopping his indiscretions because "he had his heart broken and can't trust anyone" and he doesn't want to hurt the other guy so he's not telling him shit.

Very lol-worthy logic. I'll never understand people being in relationships if they dont intend on being monogamous. Or at least, being honest, and having a open relationship then.
 
SpaceBridge said:
Very lol-worthy logic. I'll never understand people being in relationships if they dont intend on being monogamous. Or at least, being honest, and having a open relationship then.
I completely agree. My guess is the bf knows but doesn't wanna be alone so he avoids confrontation. I mean, If the guy cheats regularly, how could you not suspects anything?
 
It's true. Especially if he's gotten used to the idea of cheating, he most likely has gradually become more careless and unintentionally dropped hints here and there. Surely the partner should know something is going on.
 
And usually, secrets dont stay hidden in the gay community, depending on the city your in. And now with Facebook, it'll be harder still. I think, sending an anonymous message over FB or email might be a good solution. If the bf doesnt act on it well at all you know that you did right. I would then distance myself from this crew you hang with.
 
I'm sorry for just jumping in here without previously having contributed to the thread at all (I don't post much) but I was hoping that somebody might be able to help me out - or just throw some input my way.

First, this is pretty embarrassing, so can I please ask that nobody quote me here because I might want to delete this in a couple of weeks or something. :/

Basically I am really self-conscious about my teeth. I was born with several missing teeth, which means that I have some gaps in my mouth :( .

I've had to wear a partial denture to replace my missing teeth since I was a teenager - which I am incredibly grateful for btw, but knowing that I have a denture in my mouth has always made me feel really ugly. It's gone as far as having reconciled myself to being single for the rest of my life (I'm only in my early 20s) because I don't think that anybody would be able to find me attractive knowing that I have missing teeth. I've had people hit on me before, but I've always turned them down because I was too embarrassed about my teeth. I wear a plate on the roof of my mouth, and I have recurring nightmares of guys noticing and wondering what the hell is wrong with me, haha.

Anyway, some of my friends keep asking me why I don't have a boyfriend or never date, and of course I'm too embarrassed to tell them the real reason. I was convinced to set up a profile on a dating site though, which I never expected to use. Somebody pretty local to me messaged me though and after a really cool conversation through e-mail I've agreed to meet him... and now I can't stop stressing about it.

I really want to go and have a good time, but I am really worried that he'll either notice my denture and be completely grossed out or wonder what the hell is wrong with me. I know that it's rare to have missing teeth at my age, and most people probably think that I either don't look after my teeth or that I'm a meth addict.

I never really thought that it was noticeable before, but after agreeing to meet up with him, I keep going to the mirror and checking if you can tell or not... it's driving me crazy haha.

Okay so cutting to the chase, I'm wondering if anybody else is in a similar position to me, or if any of you guys would be willing to date somebody like me who had to wear a partial denture. Personally, I don't think that I would care, but then I'm not really representative of the majority on this one, heh.

This is such a dumb thing, and I really don't understand why I'm thinking about it so much. I rarely stress about stuff, but this has really been weighing on my mind lately. It's actually starting to get me really down.

Uhh, thanks to anybody who's actually managed to make it this far! :P
 
Don't mind about your denture, there's much more in you that can get someone head over heels. And you can probably fix that with implants in the future. :)
 
Thanks, I appreciate that.

I actually can't - because I just never had teeth in some places to begin with, I don't have the bone structure they need for implants.

Nature wins again, haha.
 
HunkyDory said:
I never really thought that it was noticeable before, but after agreeing to meet up with him, I keep going to the mirror and checking if you can tell or not... it's driving me crazy haha.

Okay so cutting to the chase, I'm wondering if anybody else is in a similar position to me, or if any of you guys would be willing to date somebody like me who had to wear a partial denture. Personally, I don't think that I would care, but then I'm not really representative of the majority on this one, heh.

This is such a dumb thing, and I really don't understand why I'm thinking about it so much. I rarely stress about stuff, but this has really been weighing on my mind lately. It's actually starting to get me really down.

Uhh, thanks to anybody who's actually managed to make it this far! :P

You could try posting a picture here; we could tell you if it's noticeable or not. But it shouldn't be a deal breaker. Try not to worry too much though. It'll be OK! ;p
 
I wouldn't mind and it shouldn't be a big deal to others..but...you might need to say it to others (well, at least the guy you're going out with).

It shouldn't be a secret and the person that is really interested in you is not going to mind.
 
HunkyDory said:
Nature wins again, haha.

Well, you and your orthodontist know it much better than I do.

But really, try to meet the person, have a good conversation before anything and you shall do fine. Swag overshadows aesthetics!
 
HunkyDory said:
I actually can't - because I just never had teeth in some places to begin with, I don't have the bone structure they need for implants.

Nature wins again, haha.

There are things about ourselves, appearance-wise and beyond, that everyone feels self-conscious of; some are within our control and some are just a natural part of who we are, and there will always be judgmental people (who are, themselves, most likely quite insecure about one thing or another) in life who make a point of harping on the faults of others, but there are many, many more who couldn't care less about it.

In your case, it sounds like you've done the best that can be reasonably expected for the problem with your teeth, and shouldn't be embarrassed or ashamed whatsoever! Maybe easier said than done, but I'm of the mindset that anyone who would seriously take issue over it, forgoing all the other positive things you have to offer, isn't worth your time to begin with.
 
HunkyDory said:

Don't worry about it, and don't get stressed about the date.

Nobody's perfect, and everyone, no matter how attractive, has some imperfection or another that they probably focus on too much, and think others will concentrate on - they've got acne scars, or too much body hair, or bad posture, or a slight frame, or big hips, or their nose is crooked, or they're losing their hair, etc. - you get the picture. I think most people take in an overall sense of attractiveness, but aren't hung up on the details, and if you end up liking the person, those imperfections become "cute", and even a reason for liking someone. Because even though we obsess over airbrushed pictures of models with perfect abs and bodies, I think that level of perfection (if it exists in reality) can be intimidating and even off-putting - in the end, you want someone real, who is human and vulnerable and whom you can relate to, rather than a plastic robot who has no faults and therefore has nothing in common with you. So don't let this one aspect of yourself handicap you and prevent you from getting yourself out there; whoever's right for you won't care (unless they're extremely shallow and stupid, in which case you're better off). Think of it this way - if you met someone who you thought was really cute and nice, and you got along with him, but he had a bald spot or a bit of extra weight, etc., would you cut things off? If not, trust that there are other people out there who are similarly non-shallow.

That being said, I wouldn't set your expectations too high for the date (and therefore wouldn't stress about it). I recently signed up (again) for the online dating thing myself and have gone out a few times, and you're going to encounter the same mix of people and problems as you would otherwise. Some people are flaky in communicating, some play games, some are perfectly nice and friendly but you don't have any chemistry with them. So relax, go on the date and enjoy yourself - if there's a spark and it turns into something more, that's great; if not, move on and don't bother overanalyzing it (or obsess about whether small details in your appearance or behavior influenced things), and just go on another one with someone else.
 
That too. In the end, have fun. You're just going out with a guy to meet and talk and stuff, not to marry.

Casually talk about your missing teeth and how you use denture. If the person just gets scared or uses that as an excuse to stop talking to you/avoid you; then his loss. And that person wasn't just worth it.

Then again, I'm no expert on dates as I've been in a total of...0 dates. XD
But, just be yourself. :)
 
I didnt know where to post this funny, weird dream I had, so I guess this would be it? lol

In my dream, I was talking on the phone to my aunt about the marketing strategy Im designing for my marketing simposium. She's a marketing graduate so it makes sense, although we dont really talk irl much. When I hung up, someone knocked on my room and I opened the door and it was James Franco completely naked. Seemed like there was some context behind this going on because I hugged him for the longest time and then we had awesome, loving sex. Best dream sex ever, almost came too but I woke up and found myself heavily humping my pillow with the hardest hard-on I've ever had haha.

Funny thing is I dont even like him. Never even thought of him in any sexual way.

Oh well, GayGAF make sure to mock me and psycho analyze me too ;)
 
inthezone said:
Funny thing is I dont even like him. Never even thought of him in any sexual way.
Pfft, at least James Franco is hot. I've had sex dreams about Barack Obama and Beast Boy from the Teen Titans. Our brains wander to some weird places in our sleep, hehe.
 
HunkyDory said:
You are totally overthinking this. To be completely honest, dating someone with dentures would not be an issue for me at all. If you take care of your mouth, then what's the big deal? The only time things like that turn off people is if you actually have poor mouth hygiene. It sounds like that is not the case so seriously forget it. It's something to say but not something to be embarrassed about. Also, he probably won't even notice. My boyfriend has braces and I actually didn't notice until the 3rd date...haha. You should tell him though just as a courtesy but don't put a huge emphasis on it as if you're telling him some horrible secret.
neojubei said:
What's wrong with listening to Whitney Houston?
Nothing at all. I just like to think they were told to move to the back of the bus because they were listening to whitney houston, rather than because they were gay :P
inthezone said:
I didnt know where to post this funny, weird dream I had, so I guess this would be it? lol

In my dream, I was talking on the phone to my aunt about the marketing strategy Im designing for my marketing simposium. She's a marketing graduate so it makes sense, although we dont really talk irl much. When I hung up, someone knocked on my room and I opened the door and it was James Franco completely naked. Seemed like there was some context behind this going on because I hugged him for the longest time and then we had awesome, loving sex. Best dream sex ever, almost came too but I woke up and found myself heavily humping my pillow with the hardest hard-on I've ever had haha.

Funny thing is I dont even like him. Never even thought of him in any sexual way.

Oh well, GayGAF make sure to mock me and psycho analyze me too ;)
Don't worry. I'd hug naked james franco too. It's completely normal.
 
GothPunk said:
Pfft, at least James Franco is hot. I've had sex dreams about Barack Obama and Beast Boy from the Teen Titans. Our brains wander to some weird places in our sleep, hehe.

You made me think of this guy when you mentioned beast boy




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Anyways, what do you guys think are some of the most romantic languages? For me its Korean, Spanish and Japanese. There is a Puerto Rican guy at my job that takes all of work's Spanish calls and man he is sooo sexy when he speaks it. He is already a muscle twink (and married with 2 kids) and cute but when he speaks Spanish my heart skips a beat. I've been around a lot of Korean and Japanese guys when I lived overseas and I love both languages.
 
Thanks guys, you have no idea how much better I feel after reding through all of your replies. I really appreciate it. I've never spoken about this before with anyone so it's kind of a relief.

Jgwhiteus- thanks man, but it's not so much meeting this guy that has been playing on my mind. Reading over my post again, I realise that I made it seem that way but it's not really the case. I'll take your comments onboard though and bare them in mind. :)

I've had a lot going on in the last few weeks, so I think I'm just being overly sensitive and a little too stressed. Seeing my thoughts out laid out and you guy's responses really helped me to get some perspective - although I do feel really dumb for even giving it this much though, heh.

Hopefully I can repay the favour some time!

I think I'll leave it up there for the time being - maybe there's somebody lurking who'll benefit from it too.
 
Being as vague as possible: there's this non-acquintance that I run into multiple times in a single week, and there's some obvious mutual attraction. The problem is that I'm pretty wary about addressing this in conversation because it would have to happen in a crowded area of mixed company--and if it didn't go optimally, I'd probably be averse to going to this area due to embarrassment or whatever. I've taken far, far too many psychology and sociology courses to be able to come up with an acceptable way to do this. This was way easier before I stopped drinking and dosing. Oh, yeah, he's like 10 years younger than me.
 
White Man said:
Being as vague as possible: there's this non-acquintance that I run into multiple times in a single week, and there's some obvious mutual attraction. The problem is that I'm pretty wary about addressing this in conversation because it would have to happen in a crowded area of mixed company--and if it didn't go optimally, I'd probably be averse to going to this area due to embarrassment or whatever. I've taken far, far too many psychology and sociology courses to be able to come up with an acceptable way to do this. This was way easier before I stopped drinking and dosing. Oh, yeah, he's like 10 years younger than me.
You could go with the usual(maybe basic way) of: "hey, do you want to exchange Facebook/MSN?"...and take things from there. I've made a few (cool) straight friends with that line too. XD

Or one day ask if he's in a rush and wants to grab something to eat...I don't know, is the kind of stuff I wouldn't mind someone asking me if there was interest.

Over the last days, I've been taking to a really nice guy that is nearly 10 years younger than me; and he sent me a friend request through Facebook...out of nowhere (I never get requests even from people I know :p). Turns out he's gay too (at first, he said jokingly that he was into girls..just to see my expression -on cam-) XD ..but I'm used to guys disappearing/stop talking to me; so not expecting anything out of it. :/
 
White Man said:
Being as vague as possible: there's this non-acquintance that I run into multiple times in a single week, and there's some obvious mutual attraction. The problem is that I'm pretty wary about addressing this in conversation because it would have to happen in a crowded area of mixed company--and if it didn't go optimally, I'd probably be averse to going to this area due to embarrassment or whatever. I've taken far, far too many psychology and sociology courses to be able to come up with an acceptable way to do this. This was way easier before I stopped drinking and dosing. Oh, yeah, he's like 10 years younger than me.

Sorry if Im having a blond moment, but is this someone you actually know, or some dude you run into on the train to work or something? And do you have any sort of conversation at all? Like, "good morning jack, how was your weekend?" Are you trying to figure out whether he's gay and thus approachable in that way?

The Facebook suggestion is pretty smart move. Ill have to try that one day.
 
White Man said:
Being as vague as possible: there's this non-acquintance that I run into multiple times in a single week, and there's some obvious mutual attraction. The problem is that I'm pretty wary about addressing this in conversation because it would have to happen in a crowded area of mixed company--and if it didn't go optimally, I'd probably be averse to going to this area due to embarrassment or whatever. I've taken far, far too many psychology and sociology courses to be able to come up with an acceptable way to do this. This was way easier before I stopped drinking and dosing. Oh, yeah, he's like 10 years younger than me.

Age has nothing to do with it if you don't mind the gap. As for the mixed company, find a time and place that's more private? Simply ask him if he's free (day) at (time) and wants to meet up at (place)? If someone butts in, tell them you didn't invite them.

If someone bothers to make a gay comment or something related to a possible relationship, I'd just personally ignore them and say you just want to go to the (place/namely theater) with this person.
 
I'm curious what are people's opinion about dating a bisexual guy, especially someone who is testing the water. Too much trouble to be worth it?

fernoca said:
You could go with the usual(maybe basic way) of: "hey, do you want to exchange Facebook/MSN?"...and take things from there. I've made a few (cool) straight friends with that line too. XD

I'd agree with this. If you're not comfortable asking him out in front of others, there should be a way for you to exchange personal contact info and then broach the subject in private.
 
Zalasta said:
I'm curious what are people's opinion about dating a bisexual guy, especially someone who is testing the water. Too much trouble to be worth it?

If someone is a good person, we never regret knowing them, even if knowing them may cause us pain. We can be hurt by anyone, and life itself is painful... but if he hurts you out of ignorance, or in the process of discovering himself, would it really be so bad if he was always honest with you? Of course it will still hurt, but the truth never hurts more than dishonesty, and it can reveal a lot. Sexuality matters much less than integrity, or what he's made of besides. I think it's best to think more about what you may gain, rather than what you may lose, because others can't take from us anything that we don't freely give them.

So I want to say, find out for yourself. If it looks like an interesting road, enjoy the journey without worrying about where it may lead in the end. In evaluating his character, trust your intuition. In my experience, it is the times that I ignored my hunches that I most regret.
 
White Man said:
Well, that's not happening. He's uh, younger than I thought. I've had scotch older than him.
:lol It happens. I once had a 16 year old get in my face about how hot he was, and how stupid I was to turn him down, I was 30 at the time, it cracked me up.

Anyway, I don't post much in here lately, being in a happy straight relationship at the moment, but I saw this and though it was nice:

Source: Star Observer
“It was a little wave that pulled us together — we held on and never looked back,” John Goosen, 85, said, describing the moment he fell in love with partner John Smith, 71, during an evening swim at a NSW south coast beach in 1959.

In a testament to the commitment that is possible in same-sex relationships, the two Johns, who today live on Sydney’s Northern Beaches, are this year celebrating 52 years together.

Both Dutch migrants from sizable families, when asked how many nieces and nephews they have between them, Goosen, who is about to become a great-grandfather, laughed.

“I think we are up to 50 but have lost count,” he said.

During World War II, Goosen spent five years fighting the Japanese in Malaysia and Indonesia. He migrated to Australia after the war and was soon married with four children.

“Gays had to marry because there was no other option,” he said.


Goosen and Smith first met at Dutch clog-dancing classes in Sydney in the mid-1950s and clicked instantly but it took time for the romance to blossom.

As Goosen’s wife Cathleen began to spend more time at home with the children, the two Johns began to meet regularly for dinner and would go on weekends away, often sleeping in the back of Smith’s converted Morris Major panel van.

It was during these weekends that Goosen said his love for Smith developed and his love for Cathleen began to become more of a friendship.

The two Johns have never lived together but they rarely spend a day apart and both live active lives which would put many younger people to shame. The couple swim every day and Smith goes to the gym three times a week. They have been

Metropolitan Community Church regulars for 25 years, where Goosen often takes to the dancefloor, walking stick and partner on hand!

The couple often visit Oxford St to indulge in their love of Indian food and to enjoy a “good perve”.

Their most memorable moment together was watching the first Sydney Mardi Gras in 1978 and they still feel angry at the police crackdown that occurred.

Smith said the secret to the success of their relationship was a simple one.

“We have always enjoyed similar interests such as cooking and traveling but I think the key is our tolerance for one another,” Smith said.

Describing themselves as disappointed ALP supporters, the two Johns are avid supporters of same-sex marriage and are confused by atheist Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s stance on the issue, which they said seemed straight out of the Bible.

But the two Johns said that for their own relationship, getting married would make little difference after so long.

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Dead Man said:
:lol It happens. I once had a 16 year old get in my face about how hot he was, and how stupid I was to turn him down, I was 30 at the time, it cracked me up.

Anyway, I don't post much in here lately, being in a happy straight relationship at the moment, but I saw this and though it was nice:

Source: Star Observer

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Well, good for them.

White Man said:
Well, that's not happening. He's uh, younger than I thought. I've had scotch older than him.

:lol So, you've shot him down then?

Marius_ said:
Online dating, how does it work

Pick and choose and hope you have compatibility.
 
TheSeks said:
Pick and choose and hope you have compatibility.
Not like that. I mean every guy that I 'meet' wants to be all spontaneous and do something that day and dont want to leave it for another day which is hard for me since I don't have a car, so most of the time I bail. I dislike spontaneity early on
 
He wants to go back one day and the other day he is undecided. I'm tired of this game yet I don't find the words to tell him to simply stop and just try to be a friend and nothing else.-_-
 
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