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ivysaur12 said:
I hope so. I've never really dated before besides some stuff in college. But yay! I hope I just don't have to go to West Hollywood too often to meet some guys. I've been there once and wasn't really feeling the kind of guys there.

The great thing about living in a big city, is that there is more diversity in the gay community. Now, Im not sure about LA (since its LA), but Im sure you'll find someone there.

Isaac, why would you tell a guy you like to die?
 
@xelios: So jealous! >:| .. :p ..and you just turned 26 (as in your birthday was today/yesterday...right?) :( ..hehe, congratulations I guess, hope there are pics of the wedding and everything (yep, even the honeymoon, live-feed is possible)

@straight/gays: We also need to keep in mind that the market for straight guys been seduced, etc. goes beyong just a fantasy of those darned gays that was to destroy society. There are women that watch gay porn, for the simpel fact hat they don't want to see vaginas (heck, many stories of this stgay for pay models/ctors are related to their girfriends enforcing them to do so and been on set during the process too); same way many straight guys prefer to watch lesbian porn (eww..dicks and cocks!!). So; the blame can't be solely on "those gays and their obessions with straight guys". :p

@Exclamation "debacle": Yep, as I said the main problem of his post was his tone and way for asking advice. If he removed a few things (or said them differently) the question wouldn't have offended some. It didn't offended me, heck replied 2 times about it; but guess my replies were sandwiched between the "pushy replies" and ignored. Again, Chuck is as arrogant and jerk for doing what he's doing, same way some random "Joe" is when he goes around flauting about his latest female conquests: it's the nature and way of some and not is not related to who they go to bed with. And Exclamation should've known better; coming from disappoiting dates, to go and play around with a guy and mess his relationship with another guy; it's also a big "no-no".
 
WTF, am I doing?! I'm flirting with an 18 year old. This is so wrong but he kept msg-ing me while other hot guys my age don't.

I think I have the same fear of rejection that straight GAF-fers have. I'd want to talk to someone but freezes up for fear they may not respond back.
 
SpaceBridge said:
The great thing about living in a big city, is that there is more diversity in the gay community. Now, Im not sure about LA (since its LA), but Im sure you'll find someone there.

Isaac, why would you tell a guy you like to die?

As a joke. He corrected my grammar and I was just like "Die!"

It grew into a huge argument. >_>
 
Replicant said:
WTF, am I doing?! I'm flirting with an 18 year old. This is so wrong but he kept msg-ing me while other hot guys my age don't.

I think I have the same fear of rejection that straight GAF-fers have. I'd want to talk to someone but freezes up for fear they may not respond back.

Quit flirting with 18 year olds. You and i are the same age. Lemme show you how grown men flirt.
 
Replicant said:
WTF, am I doing?! I'm flirting with an 18 year old. This is so wrong but he kept msg-ing me while other hot guys my age don't.

I think I have the same fear of rejection that straight GAF-fers have. I'd want to talk to someone but freezes up for fear they may not respond back.
That's not bad. Sometimes more fun than my case, where the ones that usually respond back are the ones in the late 40s, but look older than my 65 year old dad. Don't mind ages or looks, but I mean..not "eveyrone that moves" has been my more recent rule (as I went with a few 40+ guys hoping things were different, and nope..). :p


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Oh, ivysaur's back?! :O!
 
_Isaac said:
As a joke. He corrected my grammar and I was just like "Die!"

It grew into a huge argument. >_>

Oversensitive much? Ha.

One of my best friend (and ex) lives in LA right now. In West Hollywood and he's not the typical fabulous bitch you would expect there.
So I'm sure you'll find someone who's more your taste. LA is pretty big, shouldn't be too hard.
 
fernoca said:
That's not bad. Sometimes more fun than my case, where the ones that usually respond back are the ones in the late 40s, but look older than my 65 year old dad. Don't mind ages or looks, but I mean..not "eveyrone that moves" has been my more recent rule (as I went with a few 40+ guys hoping things were different, and nope..). :p
I really love it when they claim to be 40 something but they look 60. I always think how Keanu is 42 and yet he looks younger than some of these guys. Although surprisingly I don't get messaged by them that often. Maybe once in a blue moon.

Space, you're not here.

Isaac, maybe your crush will be impressed that you don't always agree with him. Does he know you like him?
 
Replicant said:
I really love it when they claim to be 40 something but they look 60. I always think how Keanu is 42 and yet he looks younger than some of these guys. Although surprisingly I don't get messaged by them that often. Maybe once in a blue moon.

Space, you're not here.

Isaac, maybe your crush will be impressed that you don't always agree with him. Does he know you like him?

Reality is a harsh mistress.
 
Umm, I notice a lot of people mentioning sites like Okcupid in this thread.

Out of curiosity, any gay gaffers here members of other, more...uhh, to the point gay sites? Just curious...
 
royalan said:
Umm, I notice a lot of people mentioning sites like Okcupid in this thread.

Out of curiosity, any gay gaffers here members of other, more...uhh, to the point gay sites? Just curious...
Manhunt? Adam4Adam? :p
Yeah I've been, and yeah they sucked. :p
 
royalan said:
Umm, I notice a lot of people mentioning sites like Okcupid in this thread.

Out of curiosity, any gay gaffers here members of other, more...uhh, to the point gay sites? Just curious...

Adam4Adam
 
Just some random thoughts. I had a friend visiting from overseas and staying at my place for a week. I was left to feel judged and condescended and it's left me in a bit of a funk. I need to get some things off my chest. Please don't take this personally anyone. It's only a livejournal entry.

I don't need to have a sexual partner at all times to be a well adjusted gay man.

I am not boring because I am a homebody and because I choose to stay home instead of going clubbing.

I'm happy your life turned out great after you left for the big city but don't assume that everyone that chooses to stay behind is 'settling' or is less than you are as result.

It's not nice to criticize for the sake of criticizing how a city is run when compared to a 'world class city' like the one you live in now.

It's not nice to tune out a friend you haven't seen in 5 years while you check Grindr or watch porn while sitting 3 feet away from me using my Wi-Fi.

Some of you may say I should have said these things to him in person. He was a guest and I was not about to make him feel uncomfortable and unwelcomed. I was just deeply disappointed how a friend could be so careless and insensitive in their demeanor.
 
Rocket Punch said:
Just some random thoughts. I had a friend visiting from overseas and staying at my place for a week. I was left to feel judged and condescended and it's left me in a bit of a funk. I need to get some things off my chest. Please don't take this personally anyone. It's only a livejournal entry.

I don't need to have a sexual partner at all times to be a well adjusted gay man.

I am not boring because I am a homebody and because I choose to stay home instead of going clubbing.

I'm happy your life turned out great after you left for the big city but don't assume that everyone that chooses to stay behind is 'settling' or is less than you are as result.

It's not nice to criticize for the sake of criticizing how a city is run when compared to a 'world class city' like the one you live in now.

It's not nice to tune out a friend you haven't seen for 5 years while you check Grindr or watch porn while sitting 3 feet away from me using my Wi-Fi.

Some of you may say I should have said these things to him in person. He was a guest and I was not about to make him feel uncomfortable and unwelcomed. I was just deeply disappointed how a friend could be so careless and insensitive in their demeanor.

Preach it, bro.
 
Rocket Punch said:
Just some random thoughts. I had a friend visiting from overseas and staying at my place for a week. I was left to feel judged and condescended and it's left me in a bit of a funk. I need to get some things off my chest. Please don't take this personally anyone. It's only a livejournal entry.

I don't need to have a sexual partner at all times to be a well adjusted gay man.

I am not boring because I am a homebody and because I choose to stay home instead of going clubbing.

I'm happy your life turned out great after you left for the big city but don't assume that everyone that chooses to stay behind is 'settling' or is less than you are as result.

It's not nice to criticize for the sake of criticizing how a city is run when compared to a 'world class city' like the one you live in now.

It's not nice to tune out a friend you haven't seen in 5 years while you check Grindr or watch porn while sitting 3 feet away from me using my Wi-Fi.

Some of you may say I should have said these things to him in person. He was a guest and I was not about to make him feel uncomfortable and unwelcomed. I was just deeply disappointed how a friend could be so careless and insensitive in their demeanor.

Its sad how much people change when you havent seen them in a while, usually for the worst. Is this person someone you'll remain friends with?
 
Rocket Punch said:
Just some random thoughts. I had a friend visiting from overseas and staying at my place for a week. I was left to feel judged and condescended and it's left me in a bit of a funk. I need to get some things off my chest. Please don't take this personally anyone. It's only a livejournal entry.

I don't need to have a sexual partner at all times to be a well adjusted gay man.

I am not boring because I am a homebody and because I choose to stay home instead of going clubbing.

I'm happy your life turned out great after you left for the big city but don't assume that everyone that chooses to stay behind is 'settling' or is less than you are as result.

It's not nice to criticize for the sake of criticizing how a city is run when compared to a 'world class city' like the one you live in now.

It's not nice to tune out a friend you haven't seen in 5 years while you check Grindr or watch porn while sitting 3 feet away from me using my Wi-Fi.

Some of you may say I should have said these things to him in person. He was a guest and I was not about to make him feel uncomfortable and unwelcomed. I was just deeply disappointed how a friend could be so careless and insensitive in their demeanor.

Preach it. He sounds like an ass. That'd be the last time I ever spoke to him, honestly.
 
Oh, don't worry Rocket Punch I feel and think the exact same things too; so no need to be sorry or feel bad about thinking that way. :)
 
I'll probably remain friends but no to the extent that I have been.

I don't expect to see him again for sometime if ever. He was very clear in saying that there's nothing of interest to him here anymore. After seeing how different we are I don't have inclination to visit him anytime soon. Sad really.
 
I met a nice (and cute) guy on adam4adam. We've only emailed/texted and talked one the phone once. So far he seems like a pretty normal and cool guy. Don't give up hope. As long as you accept why most people are on there you can't take your time and not get discouraged.
 
Sorry Rocket Punch. He sounds really insensitive and full of himself. For what it's worth I can count the # of times I've been clubbing on one hand, have never lived in a huge city and seem to manage. Keep your head up.
 
Thinking you're the shit because you live in a "world class city" is the most obnoxious thing.

It's even worse when these people come from a small town and think they've made it.
Girl, please.

That guy is a douche, who watches porn 3 feet away from a friend?
 
Rocket Punch said:
Just some random thoughts. I had a friend visiting from overseas and staying at my place for a week. I was left to feel judged and condescended and it's left me in a bit of a funk. I need to get some things off my chest. Please don't take this personally anyone. It's only a livejournal entry.

I don't need to have a sexual partner at all times to be a well adjusted gay man.

I am not boring because I am a homebody and because I choose to stay home instead of going clubbing.

I'm happy your life turned out great after you left for the big city but don't assume that everyone that chooses to stay behind is 'settling' or is less than you are as result.

It's not nice to criticize for the sake of criticizing how a city is run when compared to a 'world class city' like the one you live in now.

It's not nice to tune out a friend you haven't seen in 5 years while you check Grindr or watch porn while sitting 3 feet away from me using my Wi-Fi.

Some of you may say I should have said these things to him in person. He was a guest and I was not about to make him feel uncomfortable and unwelcomed. I was just deeply disappointed how a friend could be so careless and insensitive in their demeanor.

From one guy to another, who also just endured almost the exact same experience from an American friend that stayed with me here in Toronto for 10 days....I hear you brother. I hear you. Actually quite eerie how much your post echoed my experience hosting him.

For the record, we moved ourselves to a downtown hotel in town for the last four days of his stay, and then I left him on his ass the last two days. Kicked him the fuck out of my life and wished him well for the rest of his stay.
 
1. Congrats Xelios ::happy.gif

2. Tomorrow I will be moving in with 3 other dudes, one which is overly religious and I am a douchebag atheist(yes if someone brings up religion to my face I burst with disgust). He is also sort of a dudebro. I wish to avoid him since we go way back but he is one of the 3. So for a year I need to walk around with a fake smile and a 'hi' and probably keep the flamboyance down to make this work. Give me advice to make this easier

3. Bonus? http://i.imgur.com/BA09P.jpg
 
Marius_ said:
Tomorrow I will be moving in with 3 other dudes, one which is overly religious and I am a douchebag atheist(yes if someone brings up religion to my face I burst with disgust). He is also sort of a dudebro. I wish to avoid him since we go way back but he is one of the 3. So for a year I need to walk around with a fake smile and a 'hi' and probably keep the flamboyance down to make this work. Give me advice to make this easier

Contact CBS about a sitcom deal, because this sounds like an entertainment goldmine.

Alternately, well... don't bring it up? I'm somewhat religious myself and have a number of Christian friends and family members, but have never come across anyone who goes out of their way to start conflicts with non-religious folk. Maybe I'm just lucky. Anyway, I would just try to control yourself: if he's not trying to get all up in yo' business about it, then neither should you. As a gay man, you should know better than most people that living in society requires both acceptance and some give-and-take.
 
I've got to be honest, I'm really disappointed with GAY-GAF. Yes, my original post could have come off as a bit offensive without the proper context, and for that I apologize. However, aside from all the egging on, it seems some of you just jumped in to give your two cents without really understanding the situation.

Here's what I wrote in my original post:
Exclamation-One said:
However, the guy I hooked up with (Chuck) is in an open relationship with an older man (Jay) who I'm also friends with.
And here are some of the replies I received:
The Broken Ska Record said:
Maybe they have an open relationship. Why not just ask Chuck if he told Jay anything?
fernoca said:
You knew they were together before getting involved; so it's also your fault.
fernoca said:
Is Chuck a lying, cheating asshole? Yep; but not the only one to blame.

That's were part of the problem lies. Exclamation knew about the relationship, and he wasn't worried about Chuck's partner knowing; he probably didnt' cared; because "he was drunk".
Sai-kun said:
For all you know, they might have an open relationship?
fernoca said:
And Exclamation should've known better; coming from disappoiting dates, to go and play around with a guy and mess his relationship with another guy; it's also a big "no-no".

Reading comprehension, how does that work?

Mostly I just dislike being 'called out' when I've done nothing wrong.
 
Exclamation-One said:
I've got to be honest, I'm really disappointed with GAY-GAF. Yes, my original post could have come off as a bit offensive without the proper context, and for that I apologize. However, aside from all the egging on, it seems some of you just jumped in to give your two cents without really understanding the situation.

Here's what I wrote in my original post:

And here are some of the replies I received:






Reading comprehension, how does that work?

Mostly I just dislike being 'called out' when I've done nothing wrong.
Um, okay. Have you actually talked to Chuck about the situation? Or hell, even Jay? I'm sure Jay will keep your secret if he knows if you approach him. You kinda being a bit combative in this thread, yea?
 
I missed what the source of the conflict is...

Exclamation hooked up with a guy who's in an open-relationship. Now he feels weird. Why feel weird if it's an open relationship?
 
Cosmic Bus said:
Contact CBS about a sitcom deal, because this sounds like an entertainment goldmine.

Alternately, well... don't bring it up? I'm somewhat religious myself and have a number of Christian friends and family members, but have never come across anyone who goes out of their way to start conflicts with non-religious folk. Maybe I'm just lucky. Anyway, I would just try to control yourself: if he's not trying to get all up in yo' business about it, then neither should you. As a gay man, you should know better than most people that living in society requires both acceptance and some give-and-take.
Oh I never bring up religion unless its brought upon me first, and I dont really have something against religious people, I have live long enough to understand the clinging, hell I was in church just yesterday but when its put on my face I dont hold back and put them in their place. Maybe its just that he annoys me very much sort of how some flamboyant gays get on some of these straight ppl nerves.

This should be interesting to say the least
 
Well, I don't know why people are getting so worked up over nothing, but since you keep bringing it up, I'll give it a read.

Exclamation-One said:
STRAIGHT(?) GUY HERE, PLEASE READ
Will do.
Exclamation-One said:
I hope a close friend of mine (who is also an avid Neo_GAFFER) doesn't see this, but...

I'm not TOTALLY hetero. Who is?

Once I got drunk and let a [self-described] fairy queen guy blow me. I didn't finish. We ended up cuddling and sleeping in for about 7-8 hours. It was okay.
I really don't think there's anything that offensive about referring to someone as a fairy queen especially if he's a self-described fairy queen.
Exclamation-One said:
Recently, I had a bad couple of dates, and a gay friend came on to me. I ended up making out with him and let him blow me, and I jerked him a bit. As in the first situation, I was a little drunk, and that was that. Neither one of us got off.

However, the guy I hooked up with (Chuck) is in an open relationship with an older man (Jay) who I'm also friends with. He made a lot of allusions and jokes the last time we hung out together. Jay, the old man (who's in his mid-50's and the lover of Chuck) was staring at me intently the last time all of us hung out, like he knew what was going on or he was suspicious.

I think Jay suspects that Chuck and I did something. I can't tell if he's jealous or bemused.

Chuck, for his part, is almost complete transparent about the whole thing, and made sly (not blatant) allusions to us making out. I was mortified and pretended like everything was 'normal.'
Is this couple normally this transparent about being in an open relationship? Does it truly bother you or was it just a bit of a surprise that he wasn't doing much to hide it? I think maybe you should have told him to keep it to himself when it all happened. If I don't want something to come out, I make sure I let that person know he should keep it a secret.
Exclamation-One said:
Is this sort of teasing/duplicity commonplace among gay males? I know that hooking up with straight guys is supposed to be a major fantasy,

I really don't see much duplicity here. He didn't really tell you he was going to be discreet about it did he? Like I said you really should've been more explicit about it. He's definitely just playing around and just teasing. Is this common? Well, everybody is different, but like fernoca said, males tend to tease a lot among other males, and judging by the way a lot of gay gaffers act, it seems "sexual teasing" is somewhat common, but it always seem to be in good fun. I'm not really talking about the teasing where somebody hints at having had sex with someone. I'm talking about joking about two gay males being in love or something. I know people have done that to me before. Anyway, that probably has nothing to do with what you were saying. Excuse me.

Regarding straight guys, yeah it's a major fantasy with some gay males. Maybe it's the fact that they're somewhat "forbidden" or unattainable or perhaps it's just because they're the opposite of the effeminate "fairy queens" that some gay men really dislike.

Exclamation-One said:
but... if Jay found out, it could get around to other straight friends of mine, and well, you know...

No, I don't know. Are you afraid of something? Will they bully you? Will they stop being your friends? You did nothing wrong and it's great that you're such an open minded straight dude. Don't be ashamed of that. Either way, if it truly scares you then you definitely need to talk to Chuck and explain your fears to him, so he can stop.

Exclamation-One said:
I feel like Chuck is being careless - he sends me text messages all of the time about how he 'misses' me and whatnot. I also feel a bit objectified, like I'm some sort of joke, like Chuck is just messing about and showing off in front of Jay.

Why does it bother you to be objectified? Someone lusts after you. That doesn't mean you're a joke at all. They're not ALL going to think you're a deep and smart person. Sometimes you're just a hot piece of meat. That's okay. Be flattered. You have other friends to have deep meaningful conversations with. You should look at it as something positive.
Exclamation-One said:
Is this common?
I don't know if it's common. :p

Anyway, I made most of it up, but there you go. I also suggest everybody to be a little more positive and calm the fuck down.

Have a good one. ^_^
 
Using Grindr is like playing Russian Roulette. Sometimes you come up empty, other times you get your head blown.

I should really stop using it to find friends though. Most of them are clearly in it for the meat market. Because the 2nd/3rd question I get asked after they say "Hi" is usually "Do you have more (half-nekkid/fully nekkid) pics?". FFS
 
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