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SpaceBridge said:
Long term relationships are overated.
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I think it depends on your personality. For me being alone was pretty miserable and I wouldn't want to go back to it. Some people are more independent and less emotionally needy. I'm needy but in a self-defeating "I hate you/don't leave me" sort of way; I have no idea how I've been in a relationship almost a decade.
 
SpaceBridge said:
I always identified more with the Xmen in relation to being gay.
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I never got why people would discriminate against mutants. It seems like bullying a dragon. If they wanted they could quite easily kill you. I'd have sided with Magneto for sure.
 
Obsessed said:
I never got why people would discriminate against mutants. It seems like bullying a dragon. If they wanted they could quite easily kill you. I'd have sided with Magneto for sure.
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Yes, I would join his brotherhood as well.

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neojubei said:
What's wrong?
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Plenty. I've always contemplated posting in the depression age OT but I feel like the best that would do is offer me temporary relief. I mean, my story might not be the worst out there, but being depressed is really a drag. But this is the gay gaf OT :P Don't want to turn get too sidetracked.

This is completely random, but ever since ciD made that SpaceBridge typo I can't help but read his name as SpaceBride as opposed to SpaceBridge :P
 
Obsessed said:
I never got why people would discriminate against mutants. It seems like bullying a dragon. If they wanted they could quite easily kill you. I'd have sided with Magneto for sure.
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Hahaha; so true. Sadly, is the way it works..with everything.

1. Dragon appears
2. Dragon is hated/bullied/etc. by people
3. Dragon tries to ignore that
4. Dragon is still bullied by people
4. Dragon gets tired and pissed, burns/kill people
5. People scream brutality, is not fair, Dragon is violent, OMG we were right!!

:p




Haha..SpaceBride! XD
Has a nice ring to it. :p
 
OK, I sort of feel the need to be a hard ass here.

neojubei said:
yeah i know. I also avoid going to nyc because of so many gay couples.
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neojubei said:
in my 20s I've always been forward in asking guys out and always been rejected. I look at myself in the mirror and think why the heck am i even here, no one wants me.
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neojubei said:
I dont know being shot down all my life and having terrible experiences with the gay community has made me a bit jaded.
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You're never going to meet someone with that attitude. You're just not.

It is awful awful awful and painful to be rejected. I won't argue with you on that. I've experienced a lot of it in my life and it hurts every time. I have gotten into situations so bad that I've cut off as much contact with the world that I possibly can and rejected people who were trying to reach out to me because I couldn't even stand to be seen.

I was lucky to meet someone who was so agressive in seeking out my friendship that he essentially demanded that I hang out with him and his BF. I resisted but then relented and it helped snap me out of a rough period during which I believed I would never make another new friend, let alone be in a relationship.

As challenging and unfair as it may seem you absolutely must keep trying. You just have to do that. It sucks. Often. Sometimes it feels humiliating. Sometimes it may seem that there is a conspiracy against you. But don't forget that what you see when you observe other people, sometimes very happy looking people, isn't always what's actually going on. They may be miserable themselves. They may be struggling with illness or financial problems or having lost a loved one. Don't assume you know how they really are.

If the same thing keeps happening to you, change your approach. Try online dating. Put an ad out. If you already do that, change the language in the ad. Ask your friends and acquaintances if they know anyone cool. Meet some awesome lesbians that share some of your interests. Sometimes they know the best gay guys. Ask yourself what you really might want in a person. Ask yourself how you might be as a boyfriend. And really think about it and think about if you'd want to date someone who can't look at other people who seem happy.

I wish i had the balls to kill myself and waste away into nothingness. I probably have nothing to offer and who would want to go out with such an ugly guy.
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I've been there. And you're not ugly. You're a beautiful person and a hot guy. You have to be easier on yourself while opening yourself to being hurt. Sometimes I've felt like fucking Prometheus on the rocks getting my liver chewed out by an eagle every day only to have it grow back. Whoever wrote that myth knows how you feel. You are not the only one. But you have to keep trying. The fact that you even exist, that any of us even exist at all is kind of fucking miraculous. Of all the combinations that could have occurred, here you are. Make the most of it if you can.

Cosmic Bus said:
On a somewhat more random note, I've been feeling kind of unfulfilled and lonely recently. Like... idk, it's been 33 years and I'm sick of my hand and I want someone's else's skin under my fingertips for once, heh. It sucks not even knowing the sensation of waking up next to another person. Ah well, it'll pass.
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Imo, you pulled off a major coup in uprooting yourself from a situation that you at one point might have thought that you could never be released from. When you think about dating, tap into that power and that force that you were able to access in order to get something you really, really wanted. I think you'll find someone and I think you have lots and lots of time. I meet gay guys who are into their 50s and feel quite young, in a good way. Just don't shut down (not that you would) and keep pushing through and trying out different situations and being around different people.

Anyway. I love you guys.
 
Mercury Fred said:
OK, I sort of feel the need to be a hard ass here.







You're never going to meet someone with that attitude. You're just not.

It is awful awful awful and painful to be rejected. I won't argue with you on that. I've experienced a lot of it in my life and it hurts every time. I have gotten into situations so bad that I've cut off as much contact with the world that I possibly can and rejected people who were trying to reach out to me because I couldn't even stand to be seen.

I was lucky to meet someone who was so agressive in seeking out my friendship that he essentially demanded that I hang out with him and his BF. I resisted but then relented and it helped snap me out of a rough period during which I believed I would never make another new friend, let alone be in a relationship.

As challenging and unfair as it may seem you absolutely must keep trying. You just have to do that. It sucks. Often. Sometimes it feels humiliating. Sometimes it may seem that there is a conspiracy against you. But don't forget that what you see when you observe other people, sometimes very happy looking people, isn't always what's actually going on. They may be miserable themselves. They may be struggling with illness or financial problems or having lost a loved one. Don't assume you know how they really are.

If the same thing keeps happening to you, change your approach. Try online dating. Put an ad out. If you already do that, change the language in the ad. Ask your friends and acquaintances if they know anyone cool. Meet some awesome lesbians that share some of your interests. Sometimes they know the best gay guys. Ask yourself what you really might want in a person. Ask yourself how you might be as a boyfriend. And really think about it and think about if you'd want to date someone who can't look at other people who seem happy.


I've been there. And you're not ugly. You're a beautiful person and a hot guy. You have to be easier on yourself while opening yourself to being hurt. Sometimes I've felt like fucking Prometheus on the rocks getting my liver chewed out by an eagle every day only to have it grow back. Whoever wrote that myth knows how you feel. You are not the only one. But you have to keep trying. The fact that you even exist, that any of us even exist at all is kind of fucking miraculous. Of all the combinations that could have occurred, here you are. Make the most of it if you can.



Imo, you pulled off a major coup in uprooting yourself from a situation that you at one point might have thought that you could never be released from. When you think about dating, tap into that power and that force that you were able to access in order to get something you really, really wanted. I think you'll find someone and I think you have lots and lots of time. I meet gay guys who are into their 50s and feel quite young, in a good way. Just don't shut down (not that you would) and keep pushing through and trying out different situations and being around different people.

Anyway. I love you guys.
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This post is awesome! Deserves to be quoted 100 times!
 
dragonlife said:
Bulk and not having to go to a store?
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Pretty much. 14.95€ + shipping for 50 units is a great deal compared to buying them in the supermarket or a pharmacy. Besides, I took advantage and bought some extra stuff on that order not to be shown here :P
 
Mercury Fred said:
OK, I sort of feel the need to be a hard ass here.







You're never going to meet someone with that attitude. You're just not.

It is awful awful awful and painful to be rejected. I won't argue with you on that. I've experienced a lot of it in my life and it hurts every time. I have gotten into situations so bad that I've cut off as much contact with the world that I possibly can and rejected people who were trying to reach out to me because I couldn't even stand to be seen.

I was lucky to meet someone who was so agressive in seeking out my friendship that he essentially demanded that I hang out with him and his BF. I resisted but then relented and it helped snap me out of a rough period during which I believed I would never make another new friend, let alone be in a relationship.

As challenging and unfair as it may seem you absolutely must keep trying. You just have to do that. It sucks. Often. Sometimes it feels humiliating. Sometimes it may seem that there is a conspiracy against you. But don't forget that what you see when you observe other people, sometimes very happy looking people, isn't always what's actually going on. They may be miserable themselves. They may be struggling with illness or financial problems or having lost a loved one. Don't assume you know how they really are.

If the same thing keeps happening to you, change your approach. Try online dating. Put an ad out. If you already do that, change the language in the ad. Ask your friends and acquaintances if they know anyone cool. Meet some awesome lesbians that share some of your interests. Sometimes they know the best gay guys. Ask yourself what you really might want in a person. Ask yourself how you might be as a boyfriend. And really think about it and think about if you'd want to date someone who can't look at other people who seem happy.


I've been there. And you're not ugly. You're a beautiful person and a hot guy. You have to be easier on yourself while opening yourself to being hurt. Sometimes I've felt like fucking Prometheus on the rocks getting my liver chewed out by an eagle every day only to have it grow back. Whoever wrote that myth knows how you feel. You are not the only one. But you have to keep trying. The fact that you even exist, that any of us even exist at all is kind of fucking miraculous. Of all the combinations that could have occurred, here you are. Make the most of it if you can.



Imo, you pulled off a major coup in uprooting yourself from a situation that you at one point might have thought that you could never be released from. When you think about dating, tap into that power and that force that you were able to access in order to get something you really, really wanted. I think you'll find someone and I think you have lots and lots of time. I meet gay guys who are into their 50s and feel quite young, in a good way. Just don't shut down (not that you would) and keep pushing through and trying out different situations and being around different people.

Anyway. I love you guys.
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I've been going through some rough times adapting to a new social environment. This ha really boosted my spirits and hardened my resolve to keep throwing myself out there until I find my place. Thanks for the words of encouragement.
 
So I finally have an update about Facebook message guy.

I went out a couple of weeks ago, and got pretty drunk. I ended up running into him outside a mexican food place at the end of the night. My friend who was with me tried to pull me away so that we wouldn't run into each other but we still ended up doing so. He sort of looked at me and I at him but neither acknowledged the other. I texted him from my non-Google Voice number (which he didn't have). The next morning he responded with a "who is this?" and that was the ice breaker.

He said he hadn't responded to any of my messages because he didn't know what to say after our last convo. He told me he'd like to be my friend but he wasn't ready to be anything more with anyone.

We had a few text conversations the next week, then on Friday, he was opening a play on the Chicago Fringe fest, which he cowrote and stars in; so I went with a coworker. He seemed pretty happy to see me and we talked for a bit before and after the play. Today I had a nice pizza lunch with him, it hasn't been awkward or anything.

I don't know if it's wishful thinking but I've noticed he does still look at me like he did before, but another curious thing he's doing is in his texts he's using a lot of friend-terminology: buddy, dude, my friend and so forth. I don't quite know what to make of it. For now I'm just glad that we're back in speaking terms and we'll see where things go. Not holding my breath but hopefully my next update is a great one! :P
 
Mercury Fred said:
OK, I sort of feel the need to be a hard ass here.







You're never going to meet someone with that attitude. You're just not.

It is awful awful awful and painful to be rejected. I won't argue with you on that. I've experienced a lot of it in my life and it hurts every time. I have gotten into situations so bad that I've cut off as much contact with the world that I possibly can and rejected people who were trying to reach out to me because I couldn't even stand to be seen.

I was lucky to meet someone who was so agressive in seeking out my friendship that he essentially demanded that I hang out with him and his BF. I resisted but then relented and it helped snap me out of a rough period during which I believed I would never make another new friend, let alone be in a relationship.

As challenging and unfair as it may seem you absolutely must keep trying. You just have to do that. It sucks. Often. Sometimes it feels humiliating. Sometimes it may seem that there is a conspiracy against you. But don't forget that what you see when you observe other people, sometimes very happy looking people, isn't always what's actually going on. They may be miserable themselves. They may be struggling with illness or financial problems or having lost a loved one. Don't assume you know how they really are.

If the same thing keeps happening to you, change your approach. Try online dating. Put an ad out. If you already do that, change the language in the ad. Ask your friends and acquaintances if they know anyone cool. Meet some awesome lesbians that share some of your interests. Sometimes they know the best gay guys. Ask yourself what you really might want in a person. Ask yourself how you might be as a boyfriend. And really think about it and think about if you'd want to date someone who can't look at other people who seem happy.


I've been there. And you're not ugly. You're a beautiful person and a hot guy. You have to be easier on yourself while opening yourself to being hurt. Sometimes I've felt like fucking Prometheus on the rocks getting my liver chewed out by an eagle every day only to have it grow back. Whoever wrote that myth knows how you feel. You are not the only one. But you have to keep trying. The fact that you even exist, that any of us even exist at all is kind of fucking miraculous. Of all the combinations that could have occurred, here you are. Make the most of it if you can.



Imo, you pulled off a major coup in uprooting yourself from a situation that you at one point might have thought that you could never be released from. When you think about dating, tap into that power and that force that you were able to access in order to get something you really, really wanted. I think you'll find someone and I think you have lots and lots of time. I meet gay guys who are into their 50s and feel quite young, in a good way. Just don't shut down (not that you would) and keep pushing through and trying out different situations and being around different people.

Anyway. I love you guys.
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Well put, man. I'm 26 and also feel unbelievably tired of being single. The feeling of hopelessness comes and goes, but I usually rectify it with the attitude toward the end of your post I quoted. It all could be a million times worse, and no guy's going to want me if I have a shit attitude about everything, even if it seems like I deserve to. I ask myself what I'd want in a guy, in every way, and try every day to become more and more like that person.
 
Amibguous Cad said:
I've been going through some rough times adapting to a new social environment. This ha really boosted my spirits and hardened my resolve to keep throwing myself out there until I find my place. Thanks for the words of encouragement.
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Resilience

It's great to read posts like these. You have my bowl sir/mam!
 
Hehe, no sabia que beje hablaba español. XD


Nice update Nazgul. So far it seems fine and cool. Get to know each other better and just enjoy your time together.
 
What do you guys think of goo goo ga ga baby talk romance schmaltz? I'm talking about flowers/"You complete me"/romance novel/Tom Cruise stuff I don't really know. I don't think that's something I can get TOO used to. By that I mean I just don't feel comfortable doing it. I'm sure it'll slip out once in a while and it'll be funny, but I think it'll be a rare thing for me. I don't mind other people doing it. That's who they are and I accept it and it can make me smile. I just can't do it. I think I'd just prefer regular talking and not so.................romantic I guess. I am not used to romance. :p
 
Nice talk, I can deal with. "You complete me", "we are one", etc. Yeah I can understand that.

But, what I hate is that "googoo talk" you said. Or worse, when they go like animals and written.

The other day, I was shown a conversation between a (back then) couple, and the "conversation" was basically:

Hi! Meow!
*purrs*
*pets*
Meow
Puur..meeeeeeeeow
Awww... :(
Meeeow!!! :)
^_^



And continued for around 40-Facebook replies, PLUS 'Likes'. One of my friends and his girlfriend felt dumb while reading that. His girlfriend wondered if they had mental problems. :p
 
Nazgul_Hunter said:
So I finally have an update about Facebook message guy.

I went out a couple of weeks ago, and got pretty drunk. I ended up running into him outside a mexican food place at the end of the night. My friend who was with me tried to pull me away so that we wouldn't run into each other but we still ended up doing so. He sort of looked at me and I at him but neither acknowledged the other. I texted him from my non-Google Voice number (which he didn't have). The next morning he responded with a "who is this?" and that was the ice breaker.

He said he hadn't responded to any of my messages because he didn't know what to say after our last convo. He told me he'd like to be my friend but he wasn't ready to be anything more with anyone.

We had a few text conversations the next week, then on Friday, he was opening a play on the Chicago Fringe fest, which he cowrote and stars in; so I went with a coworker. He seemed pretty happy to see me and we talked for a bit before and after the play. Today I had a nice pizza lunch with him, it hasn't been awkward or anything.

I don't know if it's wishful thinking but I've noticed he does still look at me like he did before, but another curious thing he's doing is in his texts he's using a lot of friend-terminology: buddy, dude, my friend and so forth. I don't quite know what to make of it. For now I'm just glad that we're back in speaking terms and we'll see where things go. Not holding my breath but hopefully my next update is a great one! :P
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Sorry. but my advice is to back away now before you really start falling for him. There's no point in hoping for something more when the person clearly said he isn't looking for a relationship. I say this because the EXACT thing happened to me - well, maybe not exact, since we did start out sleeping together, but he told me he wasn't ready for anything more, and I was a fool and fell for him. Needless to say I was totally miserable for weeks after. Not worth it.
 
The overly lovey dovey stuff makes my skin crawls. I think if someone were to say that to me I would bitch slap them.
IMO there are better way to say "I love you" (like, actually saying it).

When I think about that kind of talk, I think of porcelain dolphins and paintings of cats.
 
Maybe people don't want to hear this, but honestly, if you can't be happy about yourself or find anything positive about your life when you're single, what makes you think that would change when you're in a relationship? Would you be interested in someone who have zero self-worth?
 
Zalasta said:
Maybe people don't want to hear this, but honestly, if you can't be happy about yourself or find anything positive about your life when you're single, what makes you think that would change when you're in a relationship? Would you be interested in someone who have zero self-worth?
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Well the thing is some people think they have no worth specifically because they can't form relationships with other people.

Kind of a circular chicken and egg type thing. Did they lose their self worth because they couldn't form relationships or could they not form relationships because of their lack of self worth.
 
uh oh! It's getting juicy now, he went to disneyland with his family but his sisters invited his ex without telling him! how should i feel about this? i asked him if it was awkward, he said no, and i said that's great. should i have any concerns at all?
 
Who does that? Invites two exes to the same event without checking? Fuck.

I admit, I did that once (completely unconsciously, was a big event), and while it wasn't a catastrophe, I definitely got a lot of shit about it, and his sisters deserve it too.

I mean, this sounds like a pretty small group of people, right? How could they not check first.


...anyway, aside from all that. I don't really know the backstory on this guy, but it's been all great so far, right? Trust him, unless you see signs of something otherwise? I mean, I do know a lot of people who are 100% fine with having their exes around.
 
Magnus said:
Who does that? Invites two exes to the same event without checking? Fuck.

I admit, I did that once (completely unconsciously, was a big event), and while it wasn't a catastrophe, I definitely got a lot of shit about it, and his sisters deserve it too.

I mean, this sounds like a pretty small group of people, right? How could they not check first.


...anyway, aside from all that. I don't really know the backstory on this guy, but it's been all great so far, right? Trust him, unless you see signs of something otherwise? I mean, I do know a lot of people who are 100% fine with having their exes around.
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I think my wording might not have been clear. I'm not at disneyland, i went with him on saturday. He just went to disneyland again, but this time with his family for his niece's birthday and his sisters decided to invite his ex.

for now i think you're right, i've trusted him so far, i'll continue to do so.
 
I'm in the middle of a situation here. I'll try to explain as much as I can, trying not to make this a huge post.

Tomorrow I'll be celebrating one year with my boyfriend. I had been waiting for this date for a long time, thinking about a nice present and a nice place to spend the evening. I love him very much and he loves me, but nobody except a few friends know about our relationship. Four months ago I made him a little postcard with a picture of him kissing me on the cheek and an "I love you" on top. I spent hours making it and was really proud when I finished it. He liked it very much and said he would keep it inside a book I borrowed him so it wouldn't wrinkle. Yesterday I asked him for said book because I needed it for an assignment, and when I finished using it I left it on the desk and went to sleep.

Today, when I got back from college, my mom told me she needed to ask me something. I found it pretty suspicious, mostly because she never says that kind of stuff unless it's bad news. She lit up a cigarrette and walked towards her bedroom, so I followed. She sat down on her couch, starred at me and said: "I saw a picture". For a split second I swear I was in the middle of an earthquake. My immediate reaction was to ask what picture? She proceeded to explain that she took my book and a piece of paper fell to the floor. It was my postcard. For some reason I can't remember what she told me, I was sitting there for 40 minutes and I can't seem to remember her words, and the few things that I recall make my soul unease.

She said it was a huge disrespect for my house, my family, humanity and God. She said my father could not know about this because he would be so devastated that he could literally die. She asked me why was I taking this path and since when I decided to do so. She started to blame my boyfriend thinking the "got me into this" and asked me to never take him home again since she didn't want to see his face ever again. I didn't keep quiet and answered every question she asked, but she was in shock and couldn't really understand what I was saying. She told I had to reconsider everything, that my future was bright and I couldn't jeopardize it. I told her I had never been so happy and calm in my whole life and I didn't feel I was jeopardizing anything. After 40 minutes of conversation my father arrived so we had to make a sudden change of topic and act normal. He did notice we were acting strange and has been asking the whole night what was going on but we are acting cool about it and saying we were just chatting. After the conversation I had dinner with my whole family and it was awful. Everyone acting so normal, laughing. It was too hard for me, knowing what my mom was thinking inside and the fact that my whole life is going to change from this moment. After we had dinner I went to my room, a few minutes passed and my mom knocked on my door. She gave me the book and said the postcard was inside. She asked me to destroy it, to which I refused. She took it from my hands, cut it into pieces and left.


I told my boyfriend everything and he is far more worried than me, mostly because he doesn't want to be hated by my mom. My whole family likes him very much, he used to spend most of the day here, sometimes sleeping over and stuff. I think she feels betrayed or maybe thinks that I was lying to her, but as far as I see it I never lied...I just didn't feel like mentioning anything yet. I don't know what to do. She seems to be firm about her beliefs and I don't really think she will accept me.
 
Worry about your relationship first and foremost; you're going to need that support from your boyfriend. Who you are isn't gonna change and your mom will come around eventually because she loves you. It may not turn out to be what you consider ideal, but things almost always get better than when parents find out initially. Been there myself! 'Cept my dad was freakin' psycho. I wish the best for you man.
 
Ouch. I really hate to hear that, Shinobix. But xelios is right; time can't heal all wounds, but it can certainly make things better.

Right now, you can't change her mind. Her acceptance of your relationship is something she has to come to terms with. I agree that you should focus on your relationship right now -- neither you nor your boyfriend should feel guilty about how another person feels. Eventually, hopefully, if your mother sees that you two are living happy, comfortable lives, she'll accept the circumstances (even if she doesn't particularly like them).
 
Should I start a conversation again tomorrow or just let her digest it by herself? She is the kind of person that says things she doesn't mean when she's mad...maybe I should give it a few days. Thanks for the support guys
 
Shinobix said:
Should I start a conversation again tomorrow or just let her digest it by herself? She is the kind of person that says things she doesn't mean when she's mad...maybe I should give it a few days. Thanks for the support guys
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I would give it a few days, myself. Let her come to terms with it in her own head before you try talking to her. I would be absolutely shocked if she didn't have any clue you were gay.

A question though: how is your relationship with your father? What does he know? Is he likely to talk her through this? I think if possible, you should have a conversation with both of them at the same time and just be honest about everything. Talking to them separately and having them talk to each other and then relay their feelings to you separately... it could just get very messy.

I hope things work out well. You seem to have a good grasp on the situation and aren't too rattled over the things that went down.
 
Yeah, sorry to hear that.

But yep, give it a few days, week..heck; though there's no actual-finite amount of time; just when you feel ready to do so and; well you know your mother so keep talking to her normally.

Also wonder the same that Secret said/asked: how are things with your father? Has he given any idea towards rejection or something; that might cause him to act the way you mom said?
 
Sorry :-(

I was afraid to read your entire post because I knew it wasn't going to end well and you seem really happy.
My one-year is this Saturday!

To echo what's being said, give it time and wait a few days before broaching the topic again. Though I doubt this needs to be said, do not let her question yourself or your relationship - I went through a bit of that when I came out.
 
Shinobix said:
Should I start a conversation again tomorrow or just let her digest it by herself? She is the kind of person that says things she doesn't mean when she's mad...maybe I should give it a few days. Thanks for the support guys
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You're definitely doing the right thing. She will be accustomed to you being gay over time.
 
Look at the bright side, your mom doesn't seem to want to throw you out of the house. At least she's somewhat on your side, even if it's just a little bit. She just has to get used to it.
 
I joined OKCupid.

Ugh.

I do have a date on Thursday, though.

Things I'm starting to hate about LA gays:

- I go to the gym when I have time. Why is it something that's practically worshiped?

- I'm highly ambitious and working on my career. All some of these guys do is go out, get fucked up, and do recreational drugs.

- What ever happened to monogomy, or at least an attempt to be honest?

- STOP SENDING ME PICTURES OF YOUR JUNK IT IS NOT A TURN ON
 
ivysaur12 said:
I joined OKCupid.

Ugh.

I do have a date on Thursday, though.

Things I'm starting to hate about LA gays:

- I go to the gym when I have time. Why is it something that's practically worshiped?

- I'm highly ambitious and working on my career. All some of these guys do is go out, get fucked up, and do recreational drugs.

- What ever happened to monogomy, or at least an attempt to be honest?

- STOP SENDING ME PICTURES OF YOUR JUNK IT IS NOT A TURN ON
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Sounds like most guys on dating websites/grindr. There should be a couple decent people if you look hard enough or wait long enough...
i guess i got lucky
 
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