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[RPGCrazied]

Well you will always find people that are not shallow. Since there are more straight people in general I'm guessing that's why you see some hot dudes with questionable women, but not so many hot dudes with questionable men.

I never see the tables turned. I think I just need to go have a good cry and go to bed early. Gotta love depression.

 

[MooMoo]

Massive sad face on the twink hating *shuffles away from thread*

 

[umop_3pisdn]

I always say I'm not interested in relationships even when I'm not totally closed to the idea, it's more succinct to phrase it that way even if it's not 100% truthful, because in general it's true. My experience is that I'm compatible with very few people while that view is not always shared by others. It's just easier to say "I'm not interested in relationships" than "I can only recall one occasion when I was interested in a (specific) relationship." Making it about the person in question seems unnecessarily personal when that practically seems to be my default state.

I think most people who claim to not be interested in relationships only mean that generally that is the case. I'm sure only a small minority would be opposed to the idea on the whole, it's just that they may not be looking until someone in particular catches their attention.

HaHa my friend showed me a clip of one of these and I completley forgot about it. These are gold. Those voices remind me of those Dashiexp/Nshson dubs.(NSFW I guess. Has Foul Language)

Hahaha, this is awesome (and new to me), thanks.

 

[hateradio]

Lately its everywhere, unless you are under 30, have lots of money, or be thin. Sorry, that's how it works nowadays.

If you only live in a small town in Texas how would you know it's everywhere? You keep bringing up money and weight. It seems like you're setting yourself up for failure because you think you know what every guy wants. Wrong.

 

[CornBurrito]

Massive sad face on the twink hating *shuffles away from thread*

That hair just really pisses me off.

 

[Delio]

Massive sad face on the twink hating *shuffles away from thread*

Yeah i might have to take another small break from the thread :/

 

[MooMoo]

That hair just really pisses me off.

Om nom I love hair Although, I'm a hypocrite since I don't particularly like twinks either haha >.< I know you guys say twinks are all the rage but where are all the guys lining up at my house then? Huh? Huh?

 

[chronos4590]

Yeah i might have to take another small break from the thread :/

I don't think we'll bring it back

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at least not for a while

. It's not necessary in a thread about relationships.

 

[CornBurrito]

Om nom I love hair Although, I'm a hypocrite since I don't particularly like twinks either haha >.< I know you guys say twinks are all the rage but where are all the guys lining up at my house then? Huh? Huh?

I'm not taking about body hair. I'm talking about that "bangs covering 70% of my face" haircut that the person in the picture Delio posted had.

 

[MooMoo]

I'm not taking about body hair. I'm talking about that "bangs covering 70% of my face" haircut that the person in the picture Delio posted had.

Ohhhh that. To be honest, at first I thought you were talking about my avatar but then I realized Chun Li has no hair on her legs /needs more sleep. But yeah, I don't care for that hairstyle either.

 

[Fantastical]

Fight the good fight, delio!

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I like twinks and bears. Does that make me crazy?

 

[fernoca]

That hair just really pisses me off.

 

[Delio]

Fight the good fight, delio!

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I like twinks and bears. Does that make me crazy?

Maybe a little.

 

[Alcoori]

Dis drama up in hurr.

What if I like guys that are twink-like with some hair on them, what then?!

Dat gif.

Lately its everywhere, unless you are under 30, have lots of money, or be thin. Sorry, that's how it works nowadays.

See above gif.

I'd say it's more unless you have a positive attitude and steer clear of the sources of drama.

 

[MidnightScott]

Definitely NSFW even if it's on Youtube.

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Now I'm horny

*BOING*

That's what my dick just did...

I might be spending the weekend with my new guy at his place. Looking forward to it.

 

[runlikehell]

Y'all getting horny over a video depicting HIV transmission are cray.

 

[i_am_ben]

Y'all getting horny over a video depicting HIV transmission are cray.

i don't even understand the ad.

 

[neojubei]

Lately its everywhere, unless you are under 30, have lots of money, or be thin. Sorry, that's how it works nowadays.

This is also true in Boston

 

[Zalasta]

I will never understand the gay community's need to continue to use (and create) labels to subdivide itself. It's as if being gay isn't hard enough already that we got to put each other down as well.

 

[CornBurrito]

I will never understand the gay community's need to continue to use (and create) labels to subdivide itself. It's as if being gay isn't hard enough already that we got to put each other down as well.

You should take a psychology course. There is a reason labels are so prevalent in pretty much every society. We need those shortcuts.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

The YouTube thumbnail for that ad on the NeoGaf webapp is all kinds of whoa.

 

[GothPunk]

I saw this today, and I thought you guys may enjoy it. It's a small time Irish comedian who is a little... confused about human history and homosexuality.

youtube.com/watch?v=RudGbfJ9y3Y&t=300

You should take a psychology course. There is a reason labels are so prevalent in pretty much every society. We need those shortcuts.

No need to patronise, I'm sure everyone understands that stereotyping helps us to understand the complex and foreign world around us.

There is no reason why we can't make the effort to rise above and get to know each other on an individual basis, and to treat each other as such.

Sure, when used lightheartedly the use of labels can be funny (like that website that would tell you what percentage of twink/otter/bear etc you were that was linked here previously).

However taking those labels seriously makes you an ignoramus.

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And another thing, I also believe that repeating the petty adages like 'no gay life after 30' and 'guys only like money and hard abs' makes you implicit in your problem.

There are literally tens of millions of gay people in the world, and if you think you've got them all figured out, you're wrong.

I guess it's just easier to sit around and complain than to take ownership of our lives and get out there and DO something about it.

C'est la vie.

 

[Zalasta]

I'm sure most slangs started out innocent enough, but let's not fool ourselves into believing that they haven't evolved into something more negative. In this thread alone there have been people who are equating being slender in built (twink) to be automatically feminine in personality. We already have to live with the labels society has given us, it's sad that we are so eager to do it among ourselves as well.

 

[AXavierB]

When I associate twinks with femininity, I usually mean from a physical perspective, i.e. slender build and delicate features. I know plenty of them are masculine in personality.

 

[HylianTom]

That hair just really pisses me off.

*nods* Perfectly stated. I hate that hairstyle; dating a guy with that hair would be like dating a cute lesbian.

Other than that, my tastes vary. One day I wake-up liking twinks, some other days I have hairy muscle men on the brain, and many other days I have military/jock-types in my mind.

Mmmm.. military men..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcHZus4zSAc

I love quicktime harch..

 

[CornBurrito]

No need to patronise, I'm sure everyone understands that stereotyping helps us to understand the complex and foreign world around us.

There is no reason why we can't make the effort to rise above and get to know each other on an individual basis, and to treat each other as such.

Sure, when used lightheartedly the use of labels can be funny (like that website that would tell you what percentage of twink/otter/bear etc you were that was linked here previously).

However taking those labels seriously makes you an ignoramus.

I wasn't trying to be patronizing. A lot of the "omg why do people feel the need to label everything!!!?" people seem to be legitimately unaware of the fact that we naturally label shit. Short term cultural changes aren't going to reverse millions of years of evolution.

I also legitimately hold the opinion that a lot of people would benefit from an introductory psychology course.

The rest of your post is a pathetic strawman.

 

[RPGCrazied]

I'd say it's more unless you have a positive attitude and steer clear of the sources of drama.

And as I said, I've tried the positive thing, so that really don't work either if you don't look good.

 

[umop_3pisdn]

And as I said, I've tried the positive thing, so that really don't work either if you don't look good.

If you're actively expecting something from being positive then you're doing it wrong. While happy people are more attractive, doing anything for that reason is like putting the cart before the horse.

 

[MidnightScott]

Let's talk about boxers from the 20th century:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/James_J_Jeffries.jpg

Mmmf mmmf James J Jeffries

Men looked more manly back then. I'm sure there are plenty that still look this way but something seems so natural about the physique of this man.

 

[RPGCrazied]

That's not all. I'm doing it to the same people that have the same interests as me, but don't give me the time of day. It happens more than once.

 

[umop_3pisdn]

That's not all. I'm doing it to the same people that have the same interests as me, but don't give me the time of day. It happens more than once.

That's still anticipating an external effect (validation from friends?) from something that should be independently valuable. If we do things only because they're healthy or good for us in the long term, it is likely much more sustainable.

 

[RPGCrazied]

I don't have any friends.

 

[neojubei]

And as I said, I've tried the positive thing, so that really don't work either if you don't look good.

Very true. I have a friend that is a bit overweight but with a happy personality and no one gives him a time of day. He told a guy he had a crush on that he liked him, the guy told him if he lost weight he would date him.

 

[umop_3pisdn]

Wow, you're fun to communicate with, I honestly can't grasp why that may be the case.

You probably know what I'm talking about, but by all means continue to ignore the potential face value of what I'm saying.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Well, if thats you in your avatar, then no, you wouldn't know what I'm talking about. lol

 

[umop_3pisdn]

That isn't me, and you're still not getting what I'm saying.

No one is guaranteed anything, not happiness, not even the right to exist. If you're predicating your happiness on things external to you (validation of others) then it's your own fault if you're left unsatisfied. We would all be happier if we regarded life like being a guest at a dinner party. We don't become impatient and complain when we're waiting to be served. The food will come when it does, and if it never does then we're happy simply to have gotten an invitation.

 

[neojubei]

I don't have any friends.

Its tough trying to find good gay friends. I used to try going to gay groups and online but I wasn't good looking enough. Met one friend though we are not really close.

I look at this way, if there is a God then he hates half the world automatically and you and I are part of that hated part.

That isn't me, and you're still not getting what I'm saying.

No one is guaranteed anything, not happiness, not even the right to exist. If you're predicating your happiness on things external to you (validation of others) then it's your own fault if you're left unsatisfied. We would all be happier if we regarded life like being a guest at a dinner party. We don't become impatient and complain when we're waiting to be served. The food will come when it does, and if it never does then we're happy simply to have gotten an invitation.

Then what's the point? Some people get whatever whomever they want while others should be happy they exist? Then whats the point of anything?

So short version is RPGCrazied should be happy he is alive even if he never dates or have any friends ever.

 

[CornBurrito]

That isn't me, and you're still not getting what I'm saying.

No one is guaranteed anything, not happiness, not even the right to exist. If you're predicating your happiness on things external to you (validation of others) then it's your own fault if you're left unsatisfied. We would all be happier if we regarded life like being a guest at a dinner party. We don't become impatient and complain when we're waiting to be served. The food will come when it does, and if it never does then we're happy simply to have gotten an invitation.

Humans are social creatures. I don't think you can personally put RPGCrazied at fault for seeking the affection of others.

There's a reason why solitary confinement can be so mentally and emotionally devastating.

 

[Souldriver]

That isn't me, and you're still not getting what I'm saying.

No one is guaranteed anything, not happiness, not even the right to exist. If you're predicating your happiness on things external to you (validation of others) then it's your own fault if you're left unsatisfied. We would all be happier if we regarded life like being a guest at a dinner party. We don't become impatient and complain when we're waiting to be served. The food will come when it does, and if it never does then we're happy simply to have gotten an invitation.

Wait, is that the negative outlook on life, or the positive outlook one? Because if it is the latter, that's really fucking depressing.

 

[umop_3pisdn]

Then what's the point? Some people get whatever whomever they want while others should be happy they exist? Then whats the point of anything?

If you think that people getting whatever they want makes them happy then you're deluded, if anything it has the opposite effect.

If you want to be happy, then you make that the point of living. A key pointer: people don't become happier by constantly reminding themselves of what they don't have. Neither do they become happy by ignoring its absence and pretending it doesn't matter. We feel what we feel but it's pure selfishness to think that those feelings reflect what we should actually have coming our way, reality doesn't play out according to our preferences and recognizing that is one of the huge parts of growing up.

Some opportunity will always be better than no opportunity. I'm sure those with a self-pitying disposition would make it seem that they could write off the entirety of their lives, but that's just histrionics.

 

[CornBurrito]

If you think that people getting whatever they want makes them happy then you're deluded, if anything it has the opposite effect.

Citation needed.

 

[Bel Marduk]

I never see the tables turned. I think I just need to go have a good cry and go to bed early. Gotta love depression.

Dude. You can't be like this all the time. I'm really worried about you. You know you're welcome to send me a message any time you want to talk. There has to be a way to hoist you out of this depression.

 

[CornBurrito]

Dude. You can't be like this all the time. I'm really worried about you. You know you're welcome to send me a message any time you want to talk. There has to be a way to hoist you out of this depression.

If he is suffering from clinical depression he should talk to someone as long as they are able to understand the causes of clinical depression and don't pull a "people are dying in Africa, you should be thankful" guilt trip or a "tough it up pussy!" rant.

There is a Depression thread on GAF he can post in as well. I'd recommend it.

I also personally have found that instant messaging works better than PMs as far as discussing depression goes. It is a bit more personal.

 

[neojubei]

If he is suffering from clinical depression he should talk to someone as long as they are able to understand the causes of clinical depression and don't pull a "people are dying in Africa, you should be thankful" guilt trip or a "tough it up pussy!" rant.

There is a Depression thread on GAF he can post in as well. I'd recommend it.

I also personally have found that instant messaging works better than PMs as far as discussing depression goes. It is a bit more personal.

Nothing works really.

 

[Sibylus]

The rest of your post is a pathetic strawman.

Erm, the rest of his post is quite clearly addressed to the wider thread, not you in particular. He even stuck in a hard divider and everything.

 

[yursnhere]

That isn't me, and you're still not getting what I'm saying.

No one is guaranteed anything, not happiness, not even the right to exist. If you're predicating your happiness on things external to you (validation of others) then it's your own fault if you're left unsatisfied. We would all be happier if we regarded life like being a guest at a dinner party. We don't become impatient and complain when we're waiting to be served. The food will come when it does, and if it never does then we're happy simply to have gotten an invitation.

I've been on Reddit too much lately, because I was totally about to upvote this comment!

 

[Bel Marduk]

If he is suffering from clinical depression he should talk to someone as long as they are able to understand the causes of clinical depression and don't pull a "people are dying in Africa, you should be thankful" guilt trip or a "tough it up pussy!" rant.

There is a Depression thread on GAF he can post in as well. I'd recommend it.

I also personally have found that instant messaging works better than PMs as far as discussing depression goes. It is a bit more personal.

Yeah, I do understand depression, it runs in my family and i took a few psych classes obviously that doesn't make me an expert but its very frustrating because I have talked to rpgcrazied before and he is a very cool guy who doesn't deserve to feel this way all the time.

 

[umop_3pisdn]

Humans are social creatures. I don't think you can personally put RPGCrazied at fault for seeking the affection of others.

There's a reason why solitary confinement can be so mentally and emotionally devastating.

I may be being obtuse but I didn't realize we were talking about something on the order of solitary confinement.

But even then if it apparently can't be changed (fatalism), then is focusing on the absence of something going to make it any better? If it's fate, then it's fate, belaboring it only serves to make it more agonizing.

Wait, is that the negative outlook on life, or the positive outlook one? Because if it is the latter, that's really fucking depressing.

Really? You mean accepting what is, as opposed to insisting that things outside of our control should proceed according to our wishes is depressing? Then the entirety of life is depressing.

Citation needed.

Really? It's a simple thought exercise, our wants aren't what makes us happy, but the elimination of want, and getting what we want is one approach to that, and a rather temporary and conditional one.

 

[GothPunk]

The rest of your post is a pathetic strawman.

It also wasn't directed at you or the discussion we are now having. I should have made that clearer, my bad.

I wasn't trying to be patronizing. A lot of the "omg why do people feel the need to label everything!!!?" people seem to be legitimately unaware of the fact that we naturally label shit. Short term cultural changes aren't going to reverse millions of years of evolution.

I also legitimately hold the opinion that a lot of people would benefit from an introductory psychology course.

Couldn't you just present the information for people to peruse, without the condescension? I'm always interested to learn something new but you can turn people off speaking down to people. If you have some links about this topic you should share them, I for one would find it very interesting anyways.

I think you're missing Zalastra's point and the point I'm trying to make follows on from what they said - it doesn't matter about whether a behaviour is instinctual or close to that - as enlightened individuals we can choose to act better. In much the same way that racism is a natural byproduct of our territoriality, we as a society have chosen to rise above that and realise that such feelings are irrational and are not conducive to 'liberty, equality, fraternity' and all that jazz.

Jaysus, I'm getting in deep into this for a discussion about silly labels like 'twinks' and 'bears'... Basically I think you were unfair in your dismissal of what Zalastra said. Asking for people to show a little solidarity isn't a strange concept.

 

[neojubei]

I may be being obtuse but I didn't realize we were talking about something on the order of solitary confinement.

But even then if it apparently can't be changed (fatalism), then is focusing on the absence of something going to make it any better? If it's fate, then it's fate, belaboring it only serves to make it more agonizing.



Really? You mean accepting what is, as opposed to insisting that things outside of our control should proceed according to our wishes is depressing? Then the entirety of life is depressing, and a rather temporary and conditional one.



Really? It's a simple thought exercise, our wants aren't what makes us happy, but the elimination of want, and getting what we want is one approach to that.

if this is what life is then whats the point of living,