Gay Marriage to be legalized tomorrow in New Jersey?

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1. It won't be legalized.

2. If it is , by some fluke, legalized, the decision will surely be overturned.

3. It won't have any effect on the election.
 
I hope it happens. I have a lot of gay friends and they deserve it.

Why cant gays marry? What is the main excuse for this? I dont see anything wrong with it, since what they do its their problems.
 
Bezz said:
Why cant gays marry? What is the main excuse for this? I dont see anything wrong with it, since what they do its their problems.
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Do you even care about the sanctity of marriage? I mean goddamn.
 
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"FREAKIN' YAY!"
 
This is one case where individual states don't have the right to differ, it's all or nothing. Full faith and credit clause.

So even if they pass it, it'll still get declared unconstitutional and voided.

And then, once again, I'll shake my head and wonder why even straight people need a piece of paper in order to get married.
 
demon said:
Do you even care about the sanctity of marriage? I mean goddamn.
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Yeah, the 50%+ divorce rate says enough. Most Gays aren't looking for approval from some Church, but to be able to get all the benefits a married couple gets, which they're definitely entitled to. State and Church must be separate so using the whole God excuse isn't a viable one.

You may not agree with homosexuality and you may find it disgusting, but as an American, you should respect their choice. At one point, this was expected of Americans, but it seems thats a thing of the past.

You're going to see a lot of shit you don't approve of or find disgusting and if you go around banning it, you know what you'll be left with? Jacksquat because chances are, theres a million people out there who would find some of your interests or hobbies disgusting and if we let every douchebag with a soapbox get his way, we'll be nowhere.
 
Core407 said:
Yeah, the 50%+ divorce rate says enough. Most Gays aren't looking for approval from some Church, but to be able to get all the benefits a married couple gets, which they're definitely entitled to. State and Church must be separate so using the whole God excuse isn't a viable one.
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But, what about Jesus?
 
sublime085 said:
Holy shit. What a bunch of incredible douche bags.
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And people wondered why I led an anti-social life in Jersey.
 
You know who else legalized gay marriage? Sodom and Gommorah. Pillars of salt people, pillars of salt.
 
New Jersey apparently had a lage gay population you never hear about. It has been silently been moving foward on this issue. Like the rest of the country, less people are opposed to the idea than 5 years ago suggesting that people are debating the idea and unable to find a reason to outlaw gay marriage.
 
I think it is important that these rights are granted, especially for religious folks since those same rights are what protect your beliefs as well. If we decide to arbitrarily limit civil rights then religions are in danger of being affected.
 
Link648099 said:
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I wonder if this WILL have an effect on the election
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You know, I wonder if Homosexuals will ever learn. By introducing this shit right before elections you get every jesus freak in the country to come out against it. Even if it is a one state issue it becomes a national issue so quickly. Of course it will have an effect on the election. Do Democrats remember what happened last time when San Fran legalized it? Goddam bad timing is all I can say.
 
Someone please send me a link for that website so I can laugh at all the Gotti wanna B's. :lol

As for the issue at hand I say let 'em get married if they want to. Making a law that gays can't marry or making it unconstitutional for gays to marry isn't going to stop people from being gay, that's retarded. All that does is create an environment that made the holocaust possible, which is the exact opposite of what the Good News is all about.
 
Arde0 said:
You know, I wonder if Homosexuals will ever learn. By introducing this shit right before elections you get every jesus freak in the country to come out against it. Even if it is a one state issue it becomes a national issue so quickly. Of course it will have an effect on the election. Do Democrats remember what happened last time when San Fran legalized it? Goddam bad timing is all I can say.
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Yes, because those darn Homosexuals have decided to make this ruling come down today. And really, they should just shut the **** up and be happy with inequality.
 
http://www.njguido.com is the website.

Guidos are EVERYWHERE around the tri state area... Jersey, Staten Island, NYC, Long Island. You can't go to a club around here without it being infested with them. And they always give you an attitude, always start fights (I've never been to a club around here where I didn't see at least one fight break out), and always knock into you. Lucky for the majority of you, I don't think the guido "culture" has really expanded out of the tri state area (someone correct me if I'm wrong!)...
 
JayDubya said:
And then, once again, I'll shake my head and wonder why even straight people need a piece of paper in order to get married.
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What's there to wonder about? The state has to recognize it so there's a record and you get the various legal benefits of marriage. You also get legal obligations though, especially if you're the primary earner and you get divorced later. If anyone could just declare/undeclare "we're married" whenever they wanted to, the world would be much more complicated.
 
Mercury Fred said:
Yes, because those darn Homosexuals have decided to make this ruling come down today. And really, they should just shut the **** up and be happy with inequality.
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I am not saying that at all... :(
 
Arde0 said:
You know, I wonder if Homosexuals will ever learn. By introducing this shit right before elections you get every jesus freak in the country to come out against it. Even if it is a one state issue it becomes a national issue so quickly. Of course it will have an effect on the election. Do Democrats remember what happened last time when San Fran legalized it? Goddam bad timing is all I can say.
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Contrary to what you're implying, there's no evidence I'm aware of that gay marriage cost Kerry the election. If you can cite some sources that state otherwise, please do.
 
Mercury Fred said:
Yes, because those darn Homosexuals have decided to make this ruling come down today. And really, they should just shut the **** up and be happy with inequality.
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Yea, that's exactly what he was saying.
 
u_neek said:
Meh, it's been legal here in Denmark since 1989.
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OMG! I bet tons of people got divorced, the economy fell, people started getting married to horses. How do you handle it?!
 
RevenantKioku said:
And people wondered why I led an anti-social life in Jersey.
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Yeah ok don't blame your social hang ups on New Jersey, I have plenty of great friends outside of the people as shown above although that fad is sorta out of place now and it's all about being the tough guy =\. New Jersey is a great place to live.
 
Father_Brain said:
Contrary to what you're implying, there's no evidence I'm aware of that gay marriage cost Kerry the election. If you can cite some sources that state otherwise, please do.
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Voters in Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon and Utah all approved anti-same-sex marriage amendments by double-digit margins.
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-source: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/02/ballot.samesex.marriage/


The ballot measure in Ohio passed with a 3-2 margin, closer only to Oregon and Michigan....this would suggest it was indeed a hot button issue that rallied voters in the respective states. I am not stating that it was the only thing that cost Kerry the election, but to think it was not one reason is naive. It had a larger effect on individual state elections and how incumbants and candidates had to fall on the issue.



Bad timing..(or good timing, if you are Karl Rove).
 
RevenantKioku said:
And people wondered why I led an anti-social life in Jersey.
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New Jersey rules. We're some of the wealthiest people in the country. There are many skilled jobs (including, but not limited to the pharmaceutical industry). We have one of the best public education systems in the country (the 4th "smartest state", highest average AP scores, tied with Mass for % going to college).

Have some Jersey pride, man.
 
djtiesto said:
http://www.njguido.com is the website.

Guidos are EVERYWHERE around the tri state area... Jersey, Staten Island, NYC, Long Island. You can't go to a club around here without it being infested with them. And they always give you an attitude, always start fights (I've never been to a club around here where I didn't see at least one fight break out), and always knock into you. Lucky for the majority of you, I don't think the guido "culture" has really expanded out of the tri state area (someone correct me if I'm wrong!)...
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Strutting Season
At the Jersey Shore, Guidos Are Pumped for the Prime of Their Lives

By Libby Copeland
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, July 6, 2003; Page D05

SEASIDE HEIGHTS, N.J. -- Guidos belong to summer, and summer belongs to the guidos.

Anthony Moussa, 24, who runs a Web site called NJGuido.com, comes alive during Memorial Day weekend, like a Roman statue freed from stone, beautiful. The summer months give shape and meaning to Moussa's life. This is when he parties hardest, staying up to see the dawn. This is when he comes to the Jersey Shore with his buddies and fixes his hair and hits the nightclubs and admires the girls, again and again tipping back the sweet, fruity shot he calls life.

This is when Anthony Moussa achieves the fullest expression of his guido self. This is when he becomes The Moo.
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full old article here
 
Core407 said:
Yeah, the 50%+ divorce rate says enough. Most Gays aren't looking for approval from some Church, but to be able to get all the benefits a married couple gets, which they're definitely entitled to. State and Church must be separate so using the whole God excuse isn't a viable one.

You may not agree with homosexuality and you may find it disgusting, but as an American, you should respect their choice. At one point, this was expected of Americans, but it seems thats a thing of the past.

You're going to see a lot of shit you don't approve of or find disgusting and if you go around banning it, you know what you'll be left with? Jacksquat because chances are, theres a million people out there who would find some of your interests or hobbies disgusting and if we let every douchebag with a soapbox get his way, we'll be nowhere.
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I agree that gay couples should have same benefits as married people - isn't that what civil unions are all about? (pretty sure NJ's civil union doesn't equate to "marriage"; thus they should do something about that)

Thing about gay marriage is that I think the term "marriage" should be applied only between a man and a woman - that's what it has been, and that's what it is. Marriage is about a man and a woman joining lves together and having own kids and raising a family - all of these.

Thus, I agree that gays should have rights to live legal couples - minus the term "marriage". No discrimination. Just don't try to redefine a definition.
 
there's nothing wrong with redefining a term, we've always done it as our society has grown. What would you call it when two women or two men spend their lives together raising a family?
 
levious said:
there's nothing wrong with redefining a term, we've always done it as our society has grown. What would you call it when two women or two men spend their lives together raising a family?
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Come up with another term. It's not a bad solution.
 
what actual harm would come from just calling it marriage? How about specifying that it is "same-sex marriage" ?
 
Yay? Well at least they can be as miserable as us heterosexual folks.

Marriage sucks. ****ing religious institution. And **** society for making it a norm :(
 
Piper Az said:
I agree that gay couples should have same benefits as married people - isn't that what civil unions are all about? (pretty sure NJ's civil union doesn't equate to "marriage"; thus they should do something about that)

Thing about gay marriage is that I think the term "marriage" should be applied only between a man and a woman - that's what it has been, and that's what it is. Marriage is about a man and a woman joining lves together and having own kids and raising a family - all of these.

Thus, I agree that gays should have rights to live legal couples - minus the term "marriage". No discrimination. Just don't try to redefine a definition.
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I remember when marriage was defined to be between members of the same race. Shame they redefined it... Damn libruls.
 
Honestly, the goverment just shouldn't have any dealings with marriage. In our culture, it is historically tied to religion, and it will take too much to seperate it from that, and far too long. The government should issue some sort of civili union recognition to everyone (gays, straight, whatever) and leave "marriage" to religion, allowing each one to decide what they do or do not accept within their own practices.
 
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