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[BlackTron]

According to the limited reports the signs point to him just having a serious fall, then the wife possibly being grief stricken and overdosing on a couple of different medications, but the suspicious factors are one of the dogs being locked in a room (the other two were not) and the front door being unlocked and left partially open.

People are on there phone all the time, so once they get a few phone records they should be able to get a pretty accurate time estimate of how things played out, that and the toxicology reports I think are likely going to explain things.

Like alright, he took a fall, so now you are in the bathroom clutching a pill bottle waiting to pass out. To me it doesn't add up that she didn't seek help for him first, unless she just decided to check out as well upon seeing what state he was in.

 

[daffyduck]

Why wait hours in the bathroom waiting to pass out? If that’s what it was about, why not go to a chair, or the bed?

 

[jason10mm]

I wonder if she (or he) had a heart condition or something and was going for nitro tabs or something. Or maybe she just had a normal ass heart attack (she was 65 after all) while in the bathroom and he fell trying to hurry to her. If the dog was caged, then it just died of dehydration while the other 2 probably drank from a toilet. I've a hard time believing there was an open door for a week (though I imagine if there was there would be a spike in their power/gas usage if so because it was below freezing at night) and one of the dogs with outside access didn't show up at a neighbors looking for food at least (fence? collar monitor?). Probably all just a tragic series of accidents.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Enemy of the State and Crimson Dawn are each $5 on Prime. Grabbed both.

Never seen Enemy before, but I remember the trailers when I was a kid and thought it looked awesome.

Crimson is amazing.

 

[Melon Husk]

According to the limited reports the signs point to him just having a serious fall, then the wife possibly being grief stricken and overdosing on a couple of different medications

Tragic but the most plausible explanation

 

[TheGrat1]

RIP

 

[AJUMP23]

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Touching tribute . Thanks for sharing. RIP Mr Hackman

 

[Johnny2Bad]

A highly underrated movie that nobody ever mentions.

RIP

 

[bender]

I'm going to cry like a baby when Morgan leaves this world.

 

[ssringo]

Gene Hackman and Tommy Lee Jones? Shit, I'll watch that just to see the two work.

 

[Just_one]

RIP

thats just a good scene.

great movie!!

 

[Rentahamster]

The Birdcage is free on Amazon Prime Video now. Hackman was great in it.

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

The Birdcage is free on Amazon Prime Video now. Hackman was great in it.

Love that film, highly underrated.

 

[MrCunningham]

I haven't read through the entire thread. But when I heard this news my first response was :"I thought Gene Hackman already died years ago". I am not trying to be mean. I really thought that he either passed away or died from some aliment like almost a decade ago. So: RIP again Gene Hackman and same for his wife.

This is some literal Mandela effect weirdness going on here.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

I haven't read through the entire thread. But when I heard this news my first response was :"I thought Gene Hackman already died years ago". I am not trying to be mean. I really thought that he either passed away or died from some aliment like almost a decade ago. So: RIP again Gene Hackman and same for his wife.

This is some literal Mandela effect weirdness going on here.

I had that Mandela Effect with another actor. I always thought Macaulay Culkin was dead until I saw that he was coming back into acting.

As for Gene Hackman, RIP to one of the greats

 

[Days like these...]

I haven't read through the entire thread. But when I heard this news my first response was :"I thought Gene Hackman already died years ago". I am not trying to be mean. I really thought that he either passed away or died from some aliment like almost a decade ago. So: RIP again Gene Hackman and same for his wife.

This is some literal Mandela effect weirdness going on here.

For it to be the Mandela effect many people have to remember the same thing/event

 

[MrCunningham]

I had that Mandela Effect with another actor. I always thought Macaulay Culkin was dead until I saw that he was coming back into acting.

As for Gene Hackman, RIP to one of the greats

It's funny. When I look it up... even the Mandela effect sub-Reddit is convinced that Gene Hackman passed away from old age in 2003... But I remember his death much latter than that. Like 2017. This death is even weirder because him, his wife and one of his dogs were found dead in an alleged murder. Which is pretty odd in itself, because he was 95. Why would anyone murder someone that old? Surely they could have just waited it out for a few years? Still... 95 is quite a long life. But the homicide report is strange.

EDIT: he could not have died in 2003, because of the movie Welcome to Mooseport. I remember seeing that film. There are people who think that he passed away in 2019... Which I guess is what I was thinking of.

 

[Rentahamster]

The Birdcage is free on Amazon Prime Video now. Hackman was great in it.

Apparently the Royal Tenenbaums, Behind Enemy Lines, Enemy of the State, Crimson Tide, and Hoosiers are also free on Prime now too.

Love that film, highly underrated.

Superbly written and acted. It's a classic.

 

[Chuck Berry]

The Birdcage is free on Amazon Prime Video now. Hackman was great in it.

Bunch of his stuff is on Prime currently -

Unforgiven
French Connection I and II
Enemy of the State
Crimson Dawn
Hoosiers
Get Shorty
Royal Tenenbaums
The Birdcage
Poseidon Adventure
Behind Enemy Lines
Welcome to Mooseport
Under Fire
Cisco Pike

 

[Sardaukarama]

Bunch of his stuff is on Prime currently -

Unforgiven
French Connection I and II
Enemy of the State
Crimson Dawn
Hoosiers
Get Shorty
Royal Tenenbaums
The Birdcage
Poseidon Adventure
Behind Enemy Lines
Welcome to Mooseport
Under Fire
Cisco Pike

Been watching these all week , So sad again to lose another Gentleman of that acting caliber

 

[Melon Husk]

The truth is worse than I could have imagined...

 

[DragoonKain]

Gene Hackman died of cardiovascular disease and alzheimer's and his wife of Hantavirus. They said Hackman likely died Feb 18th and his wife the 11th. Why Hackman didn't call the authorities and just hung around with his dead wife, who knows. Maybe the Alzheimer's was a factor. Hantavirus is not a common one, typically comes from rat droppings. It's been speculated by historians that may have been what caused the English Sweating sickness in the 15th and 16th centuries. Wonder how in the hell she got that and why she didn't look to get treated as she was slowly dying.

Gene Hackman's wife died of hantavirus; actor died of cardiovascular disease: Officials

Authorities provided updates Friday in the investigation into the mysterious deaths of actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa.

abcnews.go.com

 

[SidViscous]

Gene Hackman died of cardiovascular disease and alzheimer's and his wife of Hantavirus. They said Hackman likely died Feb 18th and his wife the 11th. Why Hackman didn't call the authorities and just hung around with his dead wife, who knows. Maybe the Alzheimer's was a factor. Hantavirus is not a common one, typically comes from rat droppings. It's been speculated by historians that may have been what caused the English Sweating sickness in the 15th and 16th centuries. Wonder how in the hell she got that and why she didn't look to get treated as she was slowly dying.

Gene Hackman's wife died of hantavirus; actor died of cardiovascular disease: Officials

Authorities provided updates Friday in the investigation into the mysterious deaths of actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa.

abcnews.go.com

Jeez so Gene probably had no idea what was going on for a week or so, terrifying.

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

That poor man... Rip.
I wonder what their lives were like before this. They must have had hundreds of friends? And surely a bunch of them knew he was sick, but nobody checked up on them for an entire week?

 

[kruis]

This is supposedly the last photo of Gene Hackman and his wife. Hackman stopped making movies in 2004, he looked excellent then. But he looks close to death in this shot. He's 95 years of course, but still ... this photo breaks my heart.

 

[Hookshot]

Horrible, gas leaking would have been a mercy for him.

 

[Derekloffin]

This is supposedly the last photo of Gene Hackman and his wife. Hackman stopped making movies in 2004, he looked excellent then. But he looks close to death in this shot. He's 95 years of course, but still ... this photo breaks my heart.

Damn, can't even recognize him in that pic. Sad end.

 

[analog_future]

This is supposedly the last photo of Gene Hackman and his wife. Hackman stopped making movies in 2004, he looked excellent then. But he looks close to death in this shot. He's 95 years of course, but still ... this photo breaks my heart.

I dunno, he looks great for a 95 year old man. He's 95, of course he's close to death.

 

[AJUMP23]

What a crazy turn.

 

[kruis]

I dunno, he looks great for a 95 year old man. He's 95, of course he's close to death.

It's not that he's old, but like Derekloffin, I didn't recognize the man on the photo. I've seen Hackman in god knows how many movies. I watched a Hackman movie (The Runaway Jury) just a few days ago. He was a big commanding presence in that movie, full of vigor and life. That was one of his last movies, he only did one more movie after that one.

 

[Liljagare]

I dunno, he looks great for a 95 year old man. He's 95, of course he's close to death.

It's a helluva age to reach. Have had several relatives that lived to their 90's, in good health, but after 92-95, it seems it is just the upper limit for alot of organs atm, and the end comes quickly.

Always a sad thing though to loose those oldtimers, and Gene, had a legendary career!

(on that note, talk to your old folks, before they are gone, most of them have some awesome stories to share, and alot of wisdom. Grandma was a smart one, suggested that generational living would return, young people wouldn't be able to afford to move out, again, just like during the 1800's, she was old enough to see the repetition happen in society from 1900, it still blows my mind that she was right in everything she said. Living memory is short).

 

[DKehoe]

I dunno, he looks great for a 95 year old man. He's 95, of course he's close to death.

Being up and about like that at 95 is pretty good going.

 

[Joshmyersbv]

Gene Hackman died of cardiovascular disease and alzheimer's and his wife of Hantavirus. They said Hackman likely died Feb 18th and his wife the 11th. Why Hackman didn't call the authorities and just hung around with his dead wife, who knows. Maybe the Alzheimer's was a factor. Hantavirus is not a common one, typically comes from rat droppings. It's been speculated by historians that may have been what caused the English Sweating sickness in the 15th and 16th centuries. Wonder how in the hell she got that and why she didn't look to get treated as she was slowly dying.

Gene Hackman's wife died of hantavirus; actor died of cardiovascular disease: Officials

Authorities provided updates Friday in the investigation into the mysterious deaths of actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa.

abcnews.go.com

If I'm not mistaken the Hantavirus has the same symptoms as a flu. So she probably thought she had Influenza. And for anyone who's taking care of somebody with the alzheimer's it is absolutely possible that he had no idea she was dead in the house.

 

[Jenov]

What a crazy turn.

That’s really sad. RIP. And yeah, Alzheimer’s is vicious. Being 95 and with advanced Alzheimer’s… poor man probably couldn’t even remember how to use a phone or feed himself.

 

[Chuck Berry]

If I'm not mistaken the Hantavirus has the same symptoms as a flu. So she probably thought she had Influenza. And for anyone who's taking care of somebody with the alzheimer's it is absolutely possible that he had no idea she was dead in the house.

And that house is fucking massive

 

[jason10mm]

Now I just see this as a psych horror film where he 'sees' her for a full week, not realizing that she has past.

 

[Revolutionary]

What a sad turn of events. RIP

 

[Sonik]

Why Hackman didn't call the authorities and just hung around with his dead wife, who knows.

You answered your own question

Gene Hackman died of cardiovascular disease and alzheimer's

The man probably had no idea what was happening, what a terrible fucking disease, I'd rather die from any cancer no matter how painful than that

 

[Lionel Richie]

Terrible way to die, I hope they're at peace after whatever the fuck this bullshit existence is.

 

[GateofD]

Damn, and guess the dog died last with no one to feed it. Sad all around

 

[Gp1]

If i were to guess?
The wife probably had a crisis due to the Hantavirus infection, went to the bathroom for medication. Gene took the fall (probably trying to help or something), while she must have passed out on the bathroom and dropped medicines on the floor. The dog was invertedly poisoned by the medication and Gene probably died without proper care after it.

It's a lot of ifs but completely plausible.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Man, this is so fucked up. And what's sad about this they didn't have any relatives or friends to check on them for a whole week.

 

[Windle Poons]

Without trying to sound like a cunt because it’s terrible - but would the dog, you know, made a beeline for the bodies and taken a nibble?

Or is that shit only in the movies?

Again a terrible way to go I’m not trying to be nasty. Genuine question.

EDIT: Ah the dog in question was in a cage.

 

[sono]

Nah, the Greatest Criminal Mind of our time faked his death for tax reasons

 

[Reaseru]

Alzheimer.

Fucking disease. It gradually strips us away everything that we are as individuals.

 

[Clear]

Without trying to sound like a cunt because it’s terrible - but would the dog, you know, made a beeline for the bodies and taken a nibble?

Or is that shit only in the movies?

Again a terrible way to go I’m not trying to be nasty. Genuine question.

EDIT: Ah the dog in question was in a cage.

The dog was in some kind of crate as it had just come back from the vets... so it probably starved to death trapped in it...

Grim stuff all round.

 

[Lunarorbit]

It's a helluva age to reach. Have had several relatives that lived to their 90's, in good health, but after 92-95, it seems it is just the upper limit for alot of organs atm, and the end comes quickly.

Always a sad thing though to loose those oldtimers, and Gene, had a legendary career!

(on that note, talk to your old folks, before they are gone, most of them have some awesome stories to share, and alot of wisdom. Grandma was a smart one, suggested that generational living would return, young people wouldn't be able to afford to move out, again, just like during the 1800's, she was old enough to see the repetition happen in society from 1900, it still blows my mind that she was right in everything she said. Living memory is short).

Living memory is so short.

That scene in true detectives where mcconaughey is all strung out talking about time being a flat circle...I didnt get it back them but I do now.

Everything is circular including our collective memory.

 

[daffyduck]

Damn, and guess the dog died last with no one to feed it. Sad all around

She probably collapsed before letting the dog out of the crate. The dog likely would’ve died from lack of hydration, not long after her.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Alzheimer.

Fucking disease. It gradually strips us away everything that we are as individuals.

It’s a horrible disease, its what took my mother several years ago

Still remember the day walking in to see her and she didn’t know who I was, so lost her twice.

So odd that she forgot my dad first who was taking care of her and they had been married for over 40 years then me who she saw 2 or 3 times a week

But right until the end she always knew who my wife was, always said how happy she was to see her and every time we asked who she was she replied “that’s Kim” in a very duhhh dumbass tone.