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Getting into drumming, reccommendations, etc

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Chony

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Well, I am getting into druming, so obviously I would need a drum set. I don't no what to look for, and I don't want to go into a music shop banging on some drums like an idiot (because I can't play yet, taking classes in the fall), but I need to know what to look for. I am spending around $800 (not including cymbals) for a drum set, and want reccomendations.

I have been reccommended this so far:

Pacific Drums FS Fusion Kit with 8.155 Hardware ($769) plus I will need a crash and a hi-hat.

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I will be playing blues-jazz or jazz-blues, starting a band with my friends (already have a bassist, singer, and maybe a guitarist).

Since I am not starting classes until fall, anyway to self teach drums, should I get a metronome? Any other tips?
 

Chony

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Tabris said:
Why drums if I may ask?

I have always loved drums, never liked any other instruments I have played (drums are more of a tool though). And since my friends and want to start a band, well, I jumped on the oppurtunity to do drumming.

I may also do some hip hop too.
 

Tabris

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Ahh, okay. Well that's cool.

I can't actually help you since I have no clue, I was just curious about the drum thing.
 

Tantric

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I think you're on the right track with that pacific set. A good thing to remember is that you can make a decent drumset sound tons better just by upgrading the heads and knowing how to tune it properly. I don't know what your total budget is but I would put a decent amount towards cymbals as they are what they are. Cheap ones will sound like shit and there's not a thing you can do about it.

Have you given any thought about the sizes you want?

Also, a metronome is a must imo. I don't how expereinced the other members of your band are, but they will be counting on you to keep time, so the steadier you are the better.
 

ronito

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When I was in college majoring in major I met several percussion performance majors, and I asked him what would be some good starting points this is what he told me. "Playing drums is much much less about talent and much more about attitude. Essentially you're sitting down viciously attacking something, attitude and knowledge is what makes it great." Take it however you want.
 
Get a digital drum set. My brother got a very nice Yamaha set.

Best thing about digital is that...you can line in to your PC and record it perfectly. You don't have to piss off your neighbors with the noise as you can use headphones and later on you can use the same stands to support a regular set of drums.

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Definitely make sure you get good cymbals as Tantric says, like Zildjians. Your Snare Drum is also going to be your main gear so make sure you get a good one. Drummers always carry their own snare drums to gigs, even if the rest of the drum set is supplied. Drummers are super-sensitive about other people using their snare drums!
Other than that, make sure you like the snap on the foot pedal.

Two other things to consider when buying drums: your neighbors and transportation.
 

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screw your neighbors! ;)

anyway, yeah, advice given here is pretty good. make sure you get a decent drum peddle, and you are going to want a comfortable throwne.. no need to go overboard with it.. just make sure your ass wont be sore after a long drumming session.

a metronome is a must..

drumming is fun as hell.. but damn expensive. :(
 

geogaddi

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Warm Machine said:
Get a digital drum set. My brother got a very nice Yamaha set.

Best thing about digital is that...you can line in to your PC and record it perfectly. You don't have to piss off your neighbors with the noise as you can use headphones and later on you can use the same stands to support a regular set of drums.

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I can't stand digital drum sets.

I've been playing drums for a band (Invisible Fireworks) for 7 years, so listen up;

Tip#1

Observe, observe, observe. Always try to emulate what other good drummers are playing. For instance, when you hear a Tool song on the radio or Steve Smith drumming away in a jazz radio station, be critical of what he/she is doing. Feed your mind and articulate in your mind the drumming; Drumming to me is 80% mind and 20% physical. This is high high HIGH priority. Be mentally critical about drumming, notice time signature changes, triplets over duple counts, be critical of odd-metered time signatures like 7/8 (for instance "Cinematic Orchestra - Flite" is 7/8 meter just as "Pink Floyd - money" is 7/8 and the chorus for "Bjork - Joga" is 5/4. Understand the when the strongest downbeat occurs and develop your mind rigorously like this so you can treat 4/4, 6/8 and 3/4 like you pwn them.

Tip#2

Pacific sets are perfect for intermidiate level drummers. There is a low-cost all maple kit from Pacific (i don't know model) that sounds really friggen nice (I've played it) that I seriously recommend. LEARN HOW TO TUNE YOUR DRUMS. I had a Premier Olympic (sucks arse big time) made out of only basswood and in the studio I made it sound like a $1,000 drum set simply because I tuned them absolutely perfect. Everyone that hears the recording thinks its some DW or something. For LIVE, its important that your drums are well-tuned, especially if they are micing up your toms going to a compressor in the mixing board. Tuned drums LIVE are always so naturally pleasant to the ears, whatever style of music.

Tip#3

Buy videos, dvd's of drummers like Dave Weckl and watch them play so you can develop mental ideas about what they play. Hearing what drummers play on the radio is important, but the visual aspect plays a big role as well. Watch how they take full control of their set and make it respond to whatever their mind desires.

Tip#4

If you practice, I recommend practicing singles and doubles. singles are L,R,L,R,L,R... doubles are LL,RR,LL,RR,LL,RR and also practice para diddles L,R,L,L,R,L,R,R,L,R,L,L,R,L,R,R... and ALWAYS WARM UP before playing a show or doing rehearsal with your band. Not warming up causes stiffness and lack of flexibility, so, your mind registers a fill but you are physically incapable of carrying it out.

Tip#5

Practice beats with a metronome. I've gotten paid by musicians that want the drum tracks to be done fast, because unfortunately, not many drummers can play to a click track therefore take long in recording sessions, therefore $$$ affects them.

Go to pure volume and type Invisible Fireworks in case you want to hear my band.

Peace
 

Manics

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Chony said:
I have always loved drums, never liked any other instruments I have played (drums are more of a tool though). And since my friends and want to start a band, well, I jumped on the oppurtunity to do drumming.


All women around the world want a phony rock star -- who plays guitar.
 

Diablos

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How did you split it up into little parts?

I wanted to upload that take of him playing Streetcrawler by himself (not at the beginning, but almost like halfway through)... unbefuckinglievable skill.
 

Chony

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That video would be a lot more amazing if the person filming it would actually show him playing the drums instead of zooming on his face with his little smirk. The drumming was awesome though.
 

Diablos

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You have to hear his Streetcrawler performance. It's pretty short but unbelievable.

Macam, upload that! You might as well get Sean (or Mohler?) talking beforehand too. Not the Streetcrawler solo performance from the beginning of the video, but the one right before the mannequin caretaker makes his first appearance. :D
 

Macam

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Diablos said:
How did you split it up into little parts?

I wanted to upload that take of him playing Streetcrawler by himself (not at the beginning, but almost like halfway through)... unbefuckinglievable skill.

Quicktime Pro 7 -- it took all of two seconds to snip. There's also a video on the site of a live performance of Streetcrawler; I'll upload both later today, as I'm running around town at the moment. Stay tuned!
 
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