YouTube is Getting Worse

March Climber said:
Two questions:

1) When was the last time you tried using it?

2) What is it missing that you feel it needs (realistically as compared to spotify)?
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1) Most days

2) It's not missing anything, it's just a pig to use. It takes around five minutes to boot up, it shuts down randomly, it needs re syncing every 2 seconds. Tracks get deleted from albums randomly..

I should have mentioned I'm using it mostly offline on long drives, but always sync it before leaving

Just a pain in the arse.

The ironic thing is, if I just use the normal YouTube app for videos, I don't have the same issues..

I can download the same songs videos off the app, go offline, no problems. Fast boot up, no drop outs etc

Its been this way for years now.
 
Dr.Morris79 said:
It's not missing anything, it's just a pig to use. It takes around five minutes to boot up, it shuts down randomly, it needs re syncing every 2 seconds. Tracks get deleted from albums randomly..

I should have mentioned I'm using it mostly offline on long drives, but always sync it before leaving

Just a pain in the arse.

The ironic thing is, if I just use the normal YouTube app for videos, I don't have the same issues..

I can download the same songs videos off the app, go offline, no problems. Fast boot up, no drop outs etc

Its been this way for years now.
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I agree with the track overwrite/deletion issues (which usually happens whenever a new edition of an album or song comes out).

I'm not sure what is happening with your load times though. Mine are instant, but regarding your issue we'd have to know what type of devices you're using youtube music on, or if you have some sort of ad blocker active on it (because google has been very aggressive against them lately), or if there is another internal app or cache issue happening.
 
YouTube music is fucking amazing.

The audio quality is WAY WAYYYY better than Apple Music. And there's way more music to choose from. Hip hop mixtapes. Fan music. Slowed and reverb. YouTube has more options for the songs you like cuz it's fucking YouTube and fans put shit on there
 
March Climber said:
I'm not sure what is happening with your load times though. Mine are instant, but regarding your issue we'd have to know what type of devices you're using youtube music on, or if you have some sort of ad blocker active on it (because google has been very aggressive against them lately), or if there is another internal app or cache issue happening.
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Oh no, nothing like ad blockers etc, just seems like a laggy app. Been using it on a few different phones, same result

It's livable, but I might look more into the MP3 route, like the good old days :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
HoodWinked said:
this is why socialism doesn't work.

youtube can only function if people either pay or eat ads. eventually most people figure out how to bypass the ads leaving fewer payers so those few get even more ads to offset. But this causes a feedback loop, as ads then get worse, then even more people bypass the ads. So then they have to get even more aggressive.
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No, even if almost the whole world paid they'd still make it even more insufferable because they need to keep increasing their revenue each year. Don't blame the few who use adblockers and stop bootlicking.
 
I've noticed the short pause before videos play because I use SponserBlock, but I'd be surprised if the delay is more than two seconds. I only watch a video or two a day though so my experience is somewhat limited.
 
Several months ago, I had an ad that had a runtime of an hour and a half. Turns out it was an entire church service. I do not mind what it was, I was just confused as to how something like that and that long could be considered an ad.
 
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As much as I hated the though of paying for youtube premium it's my most used service by far. Easily worth it now that it's bundled with music I can cancel my apple music sub. Keep an eye out for deals on premium where you can get the first month free as a tester. I'm done having to juggle through browsers just to find working ad blockers
 
Represent. said:
YouTube Premium. Haven seen an ad in years. And YouTube Music fucking destroys both Apple Music and Spotify, and it comes free as part of the Youtube Premium payment.
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same at first i was like waste of cash but the ads got bad on the tv app so f it i love it and with as much youtube i watch it pays for it self.
 
rkofan87 said:
they do have a new limited plan but its trash some videos still have ads.
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Didn't know about that one. Just checked it out, a bit steep and only available in a limited amount of countries so far.

Hopefully they refine the plan and expand it to more of the world. Even if it's more expensive then I'd like...I do consume a lot of youtube content and should probably throw a bit of $$$ their way. We'll see I guess.
 
I've switched over to Rumble for everything that I could. Many content creators are as well, so it has made the switch much easier. Still stuck on YouTube for music and repair videos. Adblocker is struggling to keep up with YouTube. It is quite the battle.
 
Doom85 said:
Actually, and I have no idea why and how, but YouTube stopped playing ads for me about a month or two ago. I watch on my PS5 primarily, but I checked my tablet and no ads there either.

Even though it says I'm still on regular YouTube and not Premium, I still checked my bank account to make sure somehow I or someone else had accidentally or intentionally respectively upgraded me to Premium, but nope, nothing suspicious there. And no, I don't do anything with an ad-blocker or anything, plus I assume that wouldn't even be an option for the PS5 YouTube app.

So yeah, YouTube just doesn't bother me with ads anymore. But hey:

America GIF by Big Brother
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I was also having this "bug" for like a year, no ads whatsoever, but something changes this year, they must have run some backfill or something because I started seeing ads on both LGTV and PS5
 
To be fair: everything is getting worse, not just YouTube.
 
I pay for YT premium however most channels still put their own ads into their videos now too lol

I mean, easy to skip but still there.
 
Ublock origin+ Firefox has been just fine. I've never seen ad slip through. I also have firefox with the ublock extension on my phone and also an adguard server running on my network. If i find a movie i want to watch that's free on youtube i will cast it to kodi using slyguy's youtube addon and the yatse phone app, no ads this way.
 
rkofan87 said:
its easy just this.
www.youtube.com

YouTube Premium

With YouTube Premium, enjoy ad-free access, downloads, and background play on YouTube and YouTube Music.
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com
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My wife and I had YouTube Premium. Then, they doubled the price month to month, and now it's the most expensive "streaming service" on the market. Alternatively, I downloaded Brave for free. YouTube got greedy, so now it gets nothing.
 
Their official app has more ads than cable TV. In a 30 minutes video i usually get 7-8 30' to 2 min ads. And I believe that Youtube is messing with SmartTube and other third party softwares too.
SmartTube was working flawlessly from a good 2-3 months then 15 days ago it begins to give me 403 errors, buffering etc. It happens specially on live transmissions.

Enshitfication at its prime.
 
ZehDon said:
My wife and I had YouTube Premium. Then, they doubled the price month to month, and now it's the most expensive "streaming service" on the market. Alternatively, I downloaded Brave for free. YouTube got greedy, so now it gets nothing.
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not if you buy a year $139 for youtube max no ads $170 max if you want 4k $210
 
Gp1 said:
SmartTube was working flawlessly from a good 2-3 months then 15 days ago it begins to give me 403 errors, buffering etc.
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Have you updated it? I remember an update last week with notes that mentioned the 403 error.
 
YCoCg said:
Have you updated it? I remember an update last week with notes that mentioned the 403 error.
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Even with the updates. I believe that even The SmartTube git explicitly say that YouTube does these things and they can only mitigate it, because in the end they are at mercy of YTs.
 
I used to have youtube premium before price increase. I think they would get a lot more money by making it more affordable.
 
I'm less annoyed by YouTube's ads than their fucking atrocious UI changes. The people responsible for them shouldn't be let near a computer for the rest of their hopefully miserable lives.
 
They need a cheap tier that just nukes the ads and data collection. Their sub price is just too high for a casual youtube watcher to put up with. If I'm watching car review videos on my apple TV all the ads do is to remind me to get off my ass and watch them on my computer with adblock.
 
Adblock on PC via Edge and Revanced on Android always did the trick for me but, lately, it's been IMPOSSIBLE to watch YT videos on my LG C2 - wanna watch a 2 min video ? Here's a 35 seconds ad, wanna skip through a 30mins video ? here, have a couple of 20secs ads every time you skip X minutes on said video, wanna restart the video ? Yep, here's another 30secs video AGAIN in case you missed it...

This shit had gotten so bad that made me do what I had to do 2+ years ago but always left it for "another time", that is, installing the Homebrew channel app and from there the YT no ads app (can't recall its name ATM).
 
Represent. said:
The audio quality is WAY WAYYYY better than Apple Music.
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This doesn't make any sense, AM library is literally CD quality (16-bit/44.1kHz, ~900kbps), lossless(24-bit/48kHz, ~1500kbps) or dolby atmos, how is YTM audio quality better than lossless when it tops out at lossy 256kbps?
 
My Brave is still working, i'm using Win 10 now, but you can telll Youtube keeps on messing about with it, they must be crazy if they think people are just going to watch adverts constantly or just give up and pay, YT really needs good competition now more than ever, instead of their monopoly but it will take people to switch in numbers but that might not happen.
 
The ads aren't great.

The actual content is even worse.

So much unmitigated slop disguising itself as intelligent media. Culture warhawks, grifters, lazy "creators" who just farm internet drama. Its not ain a great state right now.
 
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt said:
YouTube censorship of superchats has gotten much more insufferable nowadays
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Just saying mildly edgy shit will have a the channel owners throw a hissyfit threatning to nuke the stream/Video. I'm like why the fuck are they even bothering with Youtube If the use Twitch, Since I've seen a Twitch stream of Outlast trials when his 3 guests were trying to hard to make It Youtube friendly. All while ignoring the host stating why he never uses Youtube for game streams.


Reizo Ryuu said:
This doesn't make any sense, AM library is literally CD quality (16-bit/44.1kHz, ~900kbps), lossless(24-bit/48kHz, ~1500kbps) or dolby atmos, how is YTM audio quality better than lossless when it tops out at lossy 256kbps?
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I've used AAC & Opus at 256kbps, There still artifacting issues in Abstract IDM that I don't get in 320kbps Vorbis. I switched to 16/44 FLAC at -8 because of It.
 
Just use those YouTube ad breaks as an opportunity to take a piss.

Yes, even if that means you'll take 6 piss breaks during a 10 minute video.
 
Google enshitification of their services(YouTube, search) with their constant pushing of more and more ads has to start hitting their bottom line soon.

I've been using DuckDuckGo for years now, I used Google search recently and couldn't believe how awful it was, most results were links which when opened, didn't answer what I asked(coding tutorial) and were selling training services.

Because ad blockers don't work for YouTube on Chrome, I moved to Firefox.

I can't be the only one but Google are effectively losing more and more user data(that they need to sell to 3rd parties and for targeted ads).

It's a shame there's no mobile OS that's not Android or Apple.
 
Represent. said:
YouTube music is fucking amazing.

The audio quality is WAY WAYYYY better than Apple Music. And there's way more music to choose from. Hip hop mixtapes. Fan music. Slowed and reverb. YouTube has more options for the songs you like cuz it's fucking YouTube and fans put shit on there
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YouTube to .MP3 downloader in browser, straight to your phone. No subscription needed.
 
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