I don't trust anyone but myself when it comes to movies. Too many people praise things I find to be crap, and ignore things I love.Can you even trust critics anymore? Sadly the audience score is more credible these days. If we even had a movie theater where I live, I would consider watching this. Thanks COVID for closing the only movie theater in 20 miles.
From the director of the Poltergeist remake...
Checked a few reviews out and wouldn't you know, 2016 film good everything else bad.
Yeah I just got back from seeing it also. I think it was better than afterlife as well, because it actually felt like the same type of movie as the original.Just got back from seeing it. I quite enjoyed myself but will forget about it fairly quickly. I found it to be a harmless fun family movie that reminds me of the 80's type family movies with a bit of swearing, some scenes that will probably scare little kids, and some fun humor. Thought it was better than Afterlife.
How big a part of the movie was that Phoebe subplot? Was it totally obvious that's what they were hinting or could it just be how we read into things now because movies and TV shows seem to think that girls just can't be friends with each other and it always has to be something more so when we see a portrayal of good friends of the same sex, it's hard to not assume that there somehow romantically interested?Although here's the elephant in the room, and I hate to sound like a jerk by complaining about this, and I dunno if it would be considered a spoiler, but...this movie totally hints that Phoebe is into girls. Just makes me roll my eyes, and I'm tired of seeing it in everything. It didn't kill my enjoyment of the movie, but ugh...
The original cast only appear for 10 minutes like the previous one?
How big a part of the movie was that Phoebe subplot? Was it totally obvious that's what they were hinting or could it just be how we read into things now because movies and TV shows seem to think that girls just can't be friends with each other and it always has to be something more so when we see a portrayal of good friends of the same sex, it's hard to not assume that there somehow romantically interested?
The subplot is pretty critical to the actual conflict in the movie, so a pretty big part. And it's not like she made out with a girl or anything, but....you can tell by her facial expressions, and the way she acts, that she's into this other girl. Here's a spoiler:How big a part of the movie was that Phoebe subplot? Was it totally obvious that's what they were hinting or could it just be how we read into things now because movies and TV shows seem to think that girls just can't be friends with each other and it always has to be something more so when we see a portrayal of good friends of the same sex, it's hard to not assume that there somehow romantically interested?
Fortunately no. Ray is actually one of the more important characters to the plot. Winston is surprisingly in it very little though. Bill Murray...like I said before, he's there for a paycheck. He is probably only 10 minutes of screentime, although the first scene he's in, I enjoyed.The original cast only appear for 10 minutes like the previous one?
Thanks. if I do see it I'll probably just wait till it comes out on streaming or I just won't see it. I know that sounds kind of silly to not see a movie in a franchise that I like because of something this minor. but if it's something I don't really care to see or don't like, I just don't have to see it and that will be the end of it.The subplot is pretty critical to the actual conflict in the movie, so a pretty big part. And it's not like she made out with a girl or anything, but....you can tell by her facial expressions, and the way she acts, that she's into this other girl. Here's a spoiler:
The girl that Phoebe befriends, and is into is a ghost...and their interactions totally come off as Phoebe being into her, and she even goes as far as remove her spirit from her body so she can become a ghost and being on the same dimensional plane as the ghost girl......like, you don't do that unless you want to touch them or something.
Fortunately no. Ray is actually one of the more important characters to the plot. Winston is surprisingly in it very little though. Bill Murray...like I said before, he's there for a paycheck. He is probably only 10 minutes of screentime, although the first scene he's in, I enjoyed.
It is very heavy handed and handled with as much subtlety as a bull in a china shop.How big a part of the movie was that Phoebe subplot? Was it totally obvious that's what they were hinting or could it just be how we read into things now because movies and TV shows seem to think that girls just can't be friends with each other and it always has to be something more so when we see a portrayal of good friends of the same sex, it's hard to not assume that there somehow romantically interested?
My biggest issue with the subplot is that it just isn't done well enough to make up for how much screen time was devoted to it. The chemistry between Phoebe, Podcast, and Trevor was really good in Afterlife and it's pretty much missing in FE.It is very heavy handed and handled with as much subtlety as a bull in a china shop.
The film was overall fun, but every time these two interacted it was mind numbing.
I probably would have dropped Lucky
Saw it last night and it certainly is better than critics are saying. As others have said there's way too many characters and the third act comes together too fast and judging by the bts videos / trailers and TV spots there's a lot of cut content. I hope there's an extended cut as it could really help the film.
It has some neat ideas but doesn't capitalize on them enough. Having said that, I really enjoyed it.
It is very heavy handed and handled with as much subtlety as a bull in a china shop.
The film was overall fun, but every time these two interacted it was mind numbing.
I agree 100% with this take. There were just too many characters. A lot of them redundant or unnecessary to tell the story. They should have cut a lot of the Afterlife characters. Podcast, the black girl, and even the Stranger Things kid could have been "off to college" and absent and it would have only made the movie better. There was just no reason for them to be in New York. Paul Rudd and the mom were pretty useless too other than the contrived "I'm dad now love me plz" shit.Just seen it
Needed about 50% of the characters cutting as well as a couple of plot points, nothing really happens and then it's over as soon as something does
Still ok but nothing great
Just seen it
Needed about 50% of the characters cutting as well as a couple of plot points, nothing really happens and then it's over as soon as something does
Still ok but nothing great
Agree with this generally speaking.I agree 100% with this take. There were just too many characters. A lot of them redundant or unnecessary to tell the story. They should have cut a lot of the Afterlife characters. Podcast, the black girl, and even the Stranger Things kid could have been "off to college" and absent and it would have only made the movie better. There was just no reason for them to be in New York. Paul Rudd and the mom were pretty useless too other than the contrived "I'm dad now love me plz" shit.
I didn't think it was a bad movie though. The firebender guy was a surprise hit for me, he actually got some laughs out of my cold dead soul.
Also Dan Aykroyd was great and I loved his little library bit. Well, except that I fucking can't stand that little shit gremlin Patton Oswalt.
I think the concept for the film was pretty good, thought it was quite funny in a couple of places.
Liked the firebender. Liked the ghost girl. Liked the first half an hour or so with the establishing of the baddie, the car chase, the mayor's office.
However, after that, it's a film that's creaking under the weight of so many characters seemingly there just because they need to service a hundred different things, rather than make a good film.
All the stuff with the lab and James Acaster (science-y glasses man, for non British people) just ate away at the film's run time. And for what?
Also it 100% would have made sense for Ray to have been doing the research, rather than bringing in Oswalt just as an excuse to go to the library, just to have a 1 second shot of the librarian ghost.
All the stuff with the lab was overplayed and seemed to take up lots of the film. And then once you wade through all of that stuff to the grand showdown, it's all wrapped up in a scene that consists of 2 groups of people either grimacing as they hold onto a proton pack or grimacing as they try and push a handle down.
They could have done loads with the big ghost - attempts to heat him up with flame throwers or a chase with the car being attacked with giant shards of ice, etc. Etc. instead, he pretty much appears, goes straight to the firehouse, everyone grimaces and the film is over.
Podcast - no need (though I didn't dislike Ray's YouTube scene and podcast's hammer).
The black girl at the lab - no need (onscreen for about 10 seconds, what's the point?)
So much James Acaster - too much!
Patton Oswalt - no need
Marshmallow men - no need (again)
Sorry to say it, but Bill Murray - no need - either be in it or don't. But don't do a 3 minute cameo so they can put you on the poster.
Also, Janine again? No need.
All these characters take up screen time at the expense of things like, I don't know, ghostbusting. How many times are proton packs deployed in this film?
Yea you get it. Having the 'big bad' cause more ruckus earlier in the movie and cutting out 90% of the tertiary characters would have made the movie so much better. There were minor other common logic problems that popped up like why would you keep the source of the demon god's power (his horns) in the same room where you kept him loosely confined?Agree with this generally speaking.
Another "what is this film?" Moment was when Paul Rudd recitesYea you get it. Having the 'big bad' cause more ruckus earlier in the movie and cutting out 90% of the tertiary characters would have made the movie so much better. There were minor other common logic problems that popped up like why would you keep the source of the demon god's power (his horns) in the same room where you kept him loosely confined?
I do appreciate that they tried to mimic the cheaper effects from the 80s for most of the garden variety specters. It gave it more of an authentic Ghostbusters feel opposed to just making everything common modern CG shlock.
Think it was just a lead up for the joke-Another "what is this film?" Moment was when Paul Rudd recites
the words to the Ghostbusters song.
Are people just wanting a series of flashing images that remind them of things? Is that enough? How is there time for that, but not for plot or action.
That was my biggest problem with the first film. Again, these films seem to be trying to service too many things at the expense of making something good. It's a shame, because I think they do get so many things right.
That's exactlyThink it was just a lead up for the joke-