Giant Bomb E3 2012
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slaughterking
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Felix Lighter
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I finally got to the Jaffe section. My one problem with the guy is that it seems like he's trying to say so much that he jumps from thought to thought before he ever fully conveys an idea.
I think so too.
I've been listening to the day's podcasts at work each night. Last night was the one with Jaffe and I thought he has good insight into how games should be and his view feels realistic. I thought the indie guy (forget his name) that was talking about the game with squares was trying way too hard to project an image and came off as kinda condescending too.
Buckethead
Banned
What was the name of that game about a luchalibre wrestler that travels through time and space?
I talked about this in my GB blog... He came off like a total hipster doofus. I mean, I have a lot of respect for guys like that, and the whole Indie scene and I love so many of the games that come out of it, but its guys like that make me think twice about it.
Meanwhile Jaffe, whose populist stance I would normally hate came off super smart and interesting, seemingly no agenda, just wanted to talk games.
I was so happy when Jeff said that bit about making a game where you hide in front of the cover. You could tell from his voice he had just about had his limit of indie hipster nonsense.
I liked "the music is just WIND!" Laughed out loud and coworkers looked at me all weird.
Buckethead
Banned
The thing is, he isn't even a game dev. Or is barely one.
He had no business being there, let alone spouting such biased, poorly founded bullshit.
He had no business being there, let alone spouting such biased, poorly founded bullshit.
megamerican
Member
Holy shit at Stephen Totillo. He spent like 15 minutes name-dropping developers and "complained" that no one recognized them while he was unfortunately mobbed with admirers.
Felix Lighter
Member
That guy was insufferable. I can agree that the industry could use a boost in risky creativity but his, only-indie-devs are-doing-anything-worthwhile attitude was irritating. Games as entertainment is getting in the way of his ideal games as art world.
I think if he's a friend of site or someone they're interested in talking to, that's business enough. Isn't it? I guess he wouldn't be back if he burned a bridge somehow.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Yeah, the Indie/Cards Against Humanity came off kind of badly, his comments at the start seemed a tad insulting about the people who work their asses off for years on these big titles (just like indies work their asses off).
Jaffe was such a contrast to him in praising both, being open and fair to the pros of both.
Jaffe was such a contrast to him in praising both, being open and fair to the pros of both.
They just put up an interview for The Last of US. This got me a lot more excited for the game.
CosmicQueso
Member
It's all an act. C'mon man.
Typographenia
Member
He was making a very good point though - publishers are too eager to hide their talent (just look at how many end game credits don't explicitly state everyone's job title - compare that to films) and developers are often too willing to stay behind the scenes.
Jason Rubin did a great DICE talk on the same problem.
I think he was right. He knew journalists but not the guys who make those games? This seems ridiculous and incredible shortsighted to me.
Buckethead
Banned
That's fine but him cutting Jaffe is silly.
If you have some insight or something valid to add, it's fine, but it was redirecting the conversation for no reason/to fit his own agenda.
Just listened to the Day 1 episode today and... did Jaffe come off as a huge misogynist to anyone else?
Okay, hear me out. I like Jaffe. Love him, even. He's known for speaking his mind and not having much of a filter on the shit he says. When he outright called Steven Spielberg a cocksucking motherfucker on Weekend Confirmed a few months back for using video game animation tech in Tin Tin and call it his own? I was in fucking stitches. I like that in an overly "PC" culture, and especially an industry so riddled with bullshit PR and pre-written, rehearsed nonsense, there's a relatively well known dude so willing to speak his mind.
But... between the Tomb Raider comments, the following Hitman anecdote, and his Dr. Who quote that came out of nowhere (I know he wasn't saying anything outrightly negative about women, but he was saying a woman could never fill in the shoes of Dr. Who), compared against, say, God of War, a game for which he's quite well known, and features pretty egregious depictions of women... I was just, like, well yeah. I don't necessarily think he's a misogynist, but I can definitely see why so many people seem to be giving him shit for it, and I hope he's not so ignorant as to why himself.
Okay, hear me out. I like Jaffe. Love him, even. He's known for speaking his mind and not having much of a filter on the shit he says. When he outright called Steven Spielberg a cocksucking motherfucker on Weekend Confirmed a few months back for using video game animation tech in Tin Tin and call it his own? I was in fucking stitches. I like that in an overly "PC" culture, and especially an industry so riddled with bullshit PR and pre-written, rehearsed nonsense, there's a relatively well known dude so willing to speak his mind.
But... between the Tomb Raider comments, the following Hitman anecdote, and his Dr. Who quote that came out of nowhere (I know he wasn't saying anything outrightly negative about women, but he was saying a woman could never fill in the shoes of Dr. Who), compared against, say, God of War, a game for which he's quite well known, and features pretty egregious depictions of women... I was just, like, well yeah. I don't necessarily think he's a misogynist, but I can definitely see why so many people seem to be giving him shit for it, and I hope he's not so ignorant as to why himself.
Fits with GAF, we don't play games.
John Rabbit
Banned
my only interaction with stephen totilo left me with the impression that he is anything but humble.
grandjedi6
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Felix Lighter
Member
They are pumping out interviews like crazy men. Vinny and Drew are machines.
God of War and Metal Gear don't have statues.
Beautiful
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Is there gonna be anything tonight?
Felix Lighter
Member
Yup, another live podcast in 1 hour and 20 min.
Of course, the Harmonix guys haven't been on yet. You know Pope and Drake will bring the thunder!
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Tight.
We will dance the night away!
We will dance the night away!
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
I haven't really been keeping up with the thread, has there been any further talk or new information on Star Wars 1313?, didn't brad say he was going to see it in person?
They talked about it last night shortly, after Brad had his appointment with them. The long and short of the conversation was them being wowed by the graphics.
I have gifs on the ready.
iDoubleSpy
Member
ERIC BAUDOUR.
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Guy from Mega 64. He was very distracting and by far king of douche. Of course Rocco was great, but he felt very uncomfortable...
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Guy from Mega 64. He was very distracting and by far king of douche. Of course Rocco was great, but he felt very uncomfortable...
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
ah ok cheers, desperate to know what hardware it was being run on, I guess we won't be finding out any time soon.
Felix Lighter
Member
All we know and likely all they will say until platforms are announced is "High end PC" and "Help from Nvidia".
Are there any pictures floating around of the new David Ellis?
Jake Tower
Banned
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
This would be the greatest thing ever.
Jake Tower
Banned
What? Justin McElroy was great and brought one of the most hilarious and memorable moment from last years E3 podcasts.
Also, anybody know the name of the song in the beginning of the day 2 video? Shit's catchy.
vitaminwateryum
corporate swill
Justin McElroy.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
He did an interview here:
http://www.giantbomb.com/e3-2012-star-wars-1313-interview/17-6163/
Sounds like he'd love to have a tech-only discussion about the project at some point. The ILM VFX supe would talk his ear off if PR ever decided to let him loose.
We're right across town Brad! ;P