It's just such a hard sell of "Don't worry you'll love it when you try it" when it requires so much to do so. $800 bucks and having the room space to commit to all this is a lot to ask.
Giant Bomb Vive stream | What a Time to Be a Vive!
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It's just such a hard sell of "Don't worry you'll love it when you try it" when it requires so much to do so. $800 bucks and having the room space to commit to all this is a lot to ask.
Super Mario Bros. existed.
skLaFarebear
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Much easier said than done.
No casual market is gonna spend $600-$800 on word of mouth alone.
To be fair, this will be the majority of VR games for a while. Small indie titles that are probably not good games that were made for either development testing purposes or to try and get in on the early adopter money.
John Rabbit
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Your expectations were entirely too high to start with, and I don't see how "VR needs saving" is the takeaway when it's just a matter of time for larger more complete experiences to be available.
VR represents a significant shift in basically every aspect of game design and creation. To expect something on par with the best of what non-VR experiences have to offer after 30+ years of iteration is myopic and silly. Developers are going to be figuring this technology out for years to come.
The fact that both of these devices launched with as few technical hiccups as they have is a marvel in it's own right.
I mean, I don't even have a PC that can run this stuff, and it's going to cost me like $800 to upgrade my PC. That's almost $2000 to get onboard.
RepairmanJack
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This is trippy.
A lot of it doesn't look great.
King Gilga
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They should just get more normal games that are modified for vr, that would interest me far more than most of these tech demos.
Definitely one of the most underrated.
Definitely one of the most underrated.
Visualante2
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We were talking about games that nailed 3D at launch. I'd argue that Wii Sports nailed motion controls at launch too which arevin01 bought up. I completely agree there.
EmCeeGramr
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To be slightly fair (and pedantic), we got the NES two years after the Japanese got the Famicom, which didn't have Super Mario Bros. for over two years.
Sleeping Lesson
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Yeah probably.
The problem is more, that VR needs a different and specif set of hardware, then anything before. Everything until now was a 2D TV plus an analog button input device. There is a slow evolution going in with introduction of motion-controls and better Smart-phones. But everything is still early and still needs people to explore the possibilities.
Giant Bomb is right in the sense, that at this moment is still a tech for visionaries, dreamers and crazy people.
It may be one of my favorite things so far.
PopcornMegaphone
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Unique, yes. Deep and satisfying, no.
Probably a good analogy for VR games.
The point wasnt really this gen specifically. I can apply that to pretty much every era minus PS1 and PS2 era because of SM64 and Halo respectively.(If NES came with SMB then that too) Every other generation has never had a very compelling launch lineup.
Compsiox
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Well if everyone made their decision on whether or not to get into VR based on these Giant Bomb streams, VR would be dead already.
Sleeping Lesson
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Supposedly in late April, to yet-undisclosed retail partners.
John Rabbit
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not to mention the commercial video game industry had already existed for about 8 years prior to that as well.
Hot Coldman
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Picking up the camera blew my fucking mind.
If Sony keeps the shovelware out of their launch lineup, and it looks overall solid even with less than 20 titles, they could come out of this looking pretty good with their attractive price point.
But their motion tech will not work as well as this... and their games need to be specifically tailored to those limitations well. I expect movement tracking and at least some standing experiences... but if they fell like relatively "full games", they should do very well for themselves.
Even Sports Champions had unlockables and a full campaign path... I played that game as much as any other AAA game I ever owned. Plug that into VR and I'll be quite happy.
But their motion tech will not work as well as this... and their games need to be specifically tailored to those limitations well. I expect movement tracking and at least some standing experiences... but if they fell like relatively "full games", they should do very well for themselves.
Even Sports Champions had unlockables and a full campaign path... I played that game as much as any other AAA game I ever owned. Plug that into VR and I'll be quite happy.
BlazeHedgehog
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Well, I mean... we don't have numbers yet.
Compsiox
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And that's maddening because it's not how it is for a lot of the games.
BRocknRolla
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I think there's a certain level of cost-to-value people are expecting. Right or wrong, if I dropped that kind of money, I would be expecting something pretty revelatory too. It may well all come in time, but a level of disappointment here is to be expected.
giant_frying_pan
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You need to checkout the Job Simulator section when you get a chance. Jeff playing with the camera was great.
That game wasnt a killer app though. If you're limiting it to things that show off VR tech in a cool way than both the Oculus and the Vive already have titles that have done that.
I really do believe that the new form of social interactions that VR enable are going to be what actually leads to real breakout software. There's a reason Facebook got into this game, and it wasn't to harvest data from a tiny user base of hardcore gamers. They expect the larger first-world population to be involved in this technology in some form at some point in the future, and the only way I think that ever becomes true is if the average person has a compelling reason to own one. Games are not the key to that, new and compelling ways to interact with other people are.
BladeoftheImmortal
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Buy me one and i will
broncobuster
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This stream isn't helping with the desire to spend $799 on a Vive.
skLaFarebear
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These streams are a lot more effective at displaying VR (even if it's not 100% accurate) than a random person telling me how unique the experience is
RepairmanJack
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The problem is that this stuff was new years ago. It's had a good long while and even today they are still checking out stuff they have been showing off for years. Even then the hardware is new but the concepts aren't new at all.
ScaryShark
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It's how I felt after the Occulus stream too. Seems more and more like a gimmick/flash in the pan. Such a high barrier of entry to even experience it for the first time.