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God damn crime its not on ps5........

 

[Agent_4Seven]

God damn crime its not on ps5........

Maybe it's the next step after PC release

 

[SJRB]

 

[Pejo]

Yea I can't believe it's free, good shit.

Also we found out in the livestream that these 3 are next, completely out of order from the CN releases. So it's anything goes on global.

K2 (Yoohee) gets a customizable skin too, you can change various parts of the outfit to your liking.

Plus Leva (UMP45) was just announced for CN server. She was a fan favorite from the previous game.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

For those who still playin'

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[Agent_4Seven]

So I got back to playing the game, of-fuckin'-course lost 50/50 and didn't get Klukai (got her outfit though, which is useless for who knows how many months)...Ugh

Anyway, got to the 3-7 in the story and... man, there's just too much going on that is related to the first game, so I though nah, fuck it, I ain't moving forward until I watch a GF1 story recap.

Oooooooooooooooh boy...



9 effin' hours?

Well, I guess I don't have a choice, do I?

 

[Agent_4Seven]

So I got back to playing the game, of-fuckin'-course lost 50/50 and didn't get Klukai (got her outfit though, which is useless for who knows how many months)...Ugh

Anyway, got to the 3-7 in the story and... man, there's just too much going on that is related to the first game, so I though nah, fuck it, I ain't moving forward until I watch a GF1 story recap.

Oooooooooooooooh boy...



9 effin' hours?

Well, I guess I don't have a choice, do I?

Managed to watch the first 3 parts and daaamn, it's one of the best written gacha games ever with a very mature story, excellent corporate / political espionage vibes with a mix of politics and political intrigues, power grabs, civil unrest and inequality, mass violence and terrorism, nuclear war, use of tactical combat androids (dolls) that look like a human with insane capabilities, neural networks with consciousness and self awareness, feeling of pain, stress, emotional breakdown, PTSD... you effin' name it, it's here and superbly written. It's just incredible what they did and for such a simple and pathetic flash game in terms of gameplay? How is it even possible to put so much effort, love and care? Holy shit. And what a fuckin' jump in terms of production quality, presentation, gameplay mechanics etc. GF2 is in comparison...

Anyway, a few new promo codes:

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[Pejo]

Managed to watch the first 3 parts and daaamn, it's one of the best written gacha games ever with a very mature story, excellent corporate / political espionage vibes with a mix of politics and political intrigues, power grabs, civil unrest and inequality, mass violence and terrorism, nuclear war, use of tactical combat androids (dolls) that look like a human with insane capabilities, neural networks with consciousness and self awareness, feeling of pain, stress, emotional breakdown, PTSD... you effin' name it, it's here and superbly written. It's just incredible what they did and for such a simple and pathetic flash game in terms of gameplay? How is it even possible to put so much effort, love and care? Holy shit. And what a fuckin' jump in terms of production quality, presentation, gameplay mechanics etc. GF2 is in comparison...

Anyway, a few new promo codes:

• 404RETURN: 100 Collapse Pieces, 3,000 Sardis Gold, 2 Access Keys
• IAMPERFECT: 50 Collapse Pieces, 5,000 Combat Report, 5,000 Analysis Blueprint

Agreed, even though it's presented in VN format, they do a great job of setting the scene and painting the details with dialogue. One of the best I've read.

As for GFL2 - I kinda was disappointed in Aphelion because it basically had nothing to do with the Commander (especially part 1), but it was still well written and had a nice full arc. Also Dimitry was a MVP. Love how we're slowly collecting Gen 3 dolls. Wonder when Sextans becomes playable? She better be "free" considering the story.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Agreed, even though it's presented in VN format, they do a great job of setting the scene and painting the details with dialogue. One of the best I've read.

It's very simple, no animations whatsoever, only static images and anime cutscenes during some key moments, but it is still very effective. And then you look at what they've done for GF2... Like, Idk how long the game will last, but I think the next evolution step is Valkyria Chronicles-like GF3 which'll just blow people's minds.

I'm still in the chapter 3 and Idk how, but I need to get the main campaign done before Aphelion will not be available anymore, speaking of which, why are they making it available for a limited time? I haven't played the story yet, but it's clearly continuation of it based on the mission numbers that is, so why making it time limited? It doesn't make sense.

Idk how I'll manage to go through all this and get everything done by the end of April, but I will (BP will be ending soon, so I also need to max it out to get all the rewards... in just 4 days!). Unlike WuWa, I can actually support the game with no problems whatsoever, so I'll be doing that as well.

As for GFL2 - I kinda was disappointed in Aphelion because it basically had nothing to do with the Commander (especially part 1), but it was still well written and had a nice full arc. Also Dimitry was a MVP. Love how we're slowly collecting Gen 3 dolls. Wonder when Sextans becomes playable? She better be "free" considering the story.

No spoilers please, I'm only in the chapter 3 of the main story and haven't even touched limited event beyond some of the stuff I can do at lvl 30 and which is not story related. There's even PvP stuff in the game which is really cool. I already watched a few videos in regards to pulls and now I know which girls to pull and which to avoid. It looks like the next one will be Vektor.

She'll be pefect to complete fire team cuz I already have Qiongjiu and Sharkry (one of the best characters in the game). It sucks that I didn't get Klukai, but oh well, hopefully I'll get her during rerun and that during this time there'll be a banner I can easily skip.

P.S. Aenima

Spoiler

 

[Aenima]

P.S. Aenima

Spoiler

Yeah, when i played the game at launch they already had an event that had that "Nikke Mode" minigame, dosent feel half as good as the shooting on Nikke though but it was cool to see it.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

What a completely unrealistic and stupid combat mode, I love it

You can literally kill the entire squad which is conveniently standing around explosive barrels and the rest of the enemies not only can clearly see that, but also hear the explosion and then will be like - Huh? Well anyway.... Do I even need to mention that you can do that multiple times in a row with no consequences whatsoever?

BUT! I would love the idea for all the missions in the main story to be like this, but with a much bigger scope, way better design and realistic enemy placements and more difficult. So, what the game has right now is just straight up fights with not exploration, ambushes, stealth etc., which is... well, fine... but I'd love for it to be much more complex in terms of gameplay and this mode clearly shows that it can be easily done and the game's story missions could be much better.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Krolik and Nemesis back and forths at first was amusing, but now it's just gettin' on my nerves. Like, c'-fuckin-mon YOU TWO! Just goddamn bang already after 1509816098 duel of yours, invite Peritya to help you out and be done with IT! Damn! I know you want to so for fuck's sake do it already! I don't even want to see it for crying out loud

Ahem, anyway....

Looks like we're getting livestream dedicated to the next update very soon judging by how they did it in the past and it's just 1 week left for the current version. I already saved 131 pulls and I think I'll have around 140+ ready do go when the next update go live. I know I should get Mechty cuz they'll rerun 416 in just 3 months from now, but I'll worry about that when I actually get 416. Got the first dupe of Qiongjiu, only 2 more to go and then will go for her weapon. It's just unbelievable how fast I got Tololo and then dupe of Qiongjiu and never lost 50/50 there. Standard banner in GF2 is literally the best one I've seen in gacha games so far with it's very generous soft pily system (dedicated character banners also not bad - ~60 pulls is all you need based on my pull history) and an option to choose what you need right away and I'm already very close to get a free character or a weapon

 

[Pejo]

I am trying to get through the patch events and that monopoly mode is literally killing me to play it, I hate it so much.

I like the Vampire Survivors mode and the Nikke mode, but this monopoly one...

Anyways, after that, only have the Hazard thing to do and I'm done with the patch. This one wasn't my favorite to be honest. The story, while well written, didn't advance the plot at all and the payoff when Commander meets up with 404 was basically non existent. I hope they pick up from the awkward conversation in the OPs room for the next part of the story.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

I'm almost half way into the chapter 6 already, just 2,5 chapters left and then it's 404 story time.

I finished events there and which I could at my current level (42). Not sure if I'll be ready for challenges cuz you need to be lvl 50 minimum to even start them. Haven't played monopoly mode at all so I can't say anything about it. As for the story, even 6 chapters in Pejo , I think it's just a long-ass prologue and family reunion we looking at here for now and if the first game is any indication, there's years worth of main / character stories waiting for us. So yeah, I think we should't judge the story by what is available for not even a year in the Global version

On a side note...

People are not happy about the lack of marketing for the next banners



We know which characters will be next, but no order of their releases was revealed. I hope Vector is next cuz I sure don't need the rest of the two, especially because physical team is not really needed in the game (as well as sword users - why they even bothered to add them at all?) right now and Springfield kills any need for Zhaohui so.... yeah. Uh, if they'll release Vector during the half anniversary in June, I'll have plenty of pulls for her and her weapon but man, it'll be a painful waiting period

 

[Unknown Soldier]

The story of Aphelion (Chapters 9 and 10 in the main story) ended up being so fucking based

For those who don't know, almost all the event stories were rewritten from original CN release to Global

That's why the Daiyan and Centaureissi events now comprise Chapters 8.3, 8.5, and 8.8 in the main story, and why the current event is now Chapters 9 and 10. They have been added as event stories in the CN version and Global will likely follow in a later patch

As of now, Global and CN are in sync for main story chapters, so from here it's full speed ahead

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Managed to watch the first 3 parts and daaamn, it's one of the best written gacha games ever with a very mature story, excellent corporate / political espionage vibes with a mix of politics and political intrigues, power grabs, civil unrest and inequality, mass violence and terrorism, nuclear war, use of tactical combat androids (dolls) that look like a human with insane capabilities, neural networks with consciousness and self awareness, feeling of pain, stress, emotional breakdown, PTSD... you effin' name it, it's here and superbly written. It's just incredible what they did and for such a simple and pathetic flash game in terms of gameplay? How is it even possible to put so much effort, love and care? Holy shit. And what a fuckin' jump in terms of production quality, presentation, gameplay mechanics etc. GF2 is in comparison...

Anyway, a few new promo codes:

• 404RETURN: 100 Collapse Pieces, 3,000 Sardis Gold, 2 Access Keys
• IAMPERFECT: 50 Collapse Pieces, 5,000 Combat Report, 5,000 Analysis Blueprint

GFL1 didn't actually really start having a real story until around Chapter 10, most of the early stuff wasn't really impactful

Somewhere along the line, Yuzhong decided he was going to go all-out and write the Metal Gear story he always wanted. (He's a big fan of Metal Gear going back to the NES originals.)

GFL2 has an even more tortured origin, as it started up more than a year ago in CN while Yuzhong was still busy writing the conclusion to GFL1 and they thought they could get away with filler events for the first year. Then the Raymond Incident happened and nearly killed GFL2 in the cradle, and so they pushed up Global launch and rewrote most of the old event stories

Yuzhong has since finished writing the last story bits for GFL1 and is now writing full time for GFL2. Expect unforeseen consequences

 

[Pejo]

The story of Aphelion (Chapters 9 and 10 in the main story) ended up being so fucking based

You mean the Part 1 and 2 of the current event or do we get a proper Chapter 9/10 (hopefully viewing the same time frame from Commander's viewpoint)? I thought Aphelion was well written but it didn't advance the plot hardly at all, and I don't like that we have entire month long patches with nearly zero interaction with the main cast on the Elmo. We already knew before this event even started that Paradeus was back in operation and using underground facilities to make mutants and "fully immune individuals" using collapse radiation. Introducing Dimitry and his faction really did nothing except add a bunch of filler. Meanwhile, I still wanna know what's going on with the Helenas.

As of now, Global and CN are in sync for main story chapters, so from here it's full speed ahead

I actually didn't realize we were already caught up, good stuff. I just hope that doesn't mean even longer periods of time between each story chapter. I find the combat to be a bit easy in this game, so I'm pretty much here for the story and hoping they add some of my favorite dolls from GFL1.

Yuzhong has since finished writing the last story bits for GFL1 and is now writing full time for GFL2. Expect unforeseen consequences

I'll be honest, I hope we don't go sci-fi fictional supernatural time travel in this story. Lots of people loved that part of GFL1, but I think it jumped the shark quite a bit. You know who has already been teased again though, and with Dandelion seemingly joining us for the foreseeable future, I'm almost positive they're going to revisit that aspect of the story again. The world and the Commander's storyline is already good enough, I feel that they don't need all of that goofy stuff to keep it compelling. But I guess we'll see what we get.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

GFL1 didn't actually really start having a real story until around Chapter 10, most of the early stuff wasn't really impactful

Somewhere along the line, Yuzhong decided he was going to go all-out and write the Metal Gear story he always wanted. (He's a big fan of Metal Gear going back to the NES originals.)

You can tell with all those government conspiracies, espionage vibes and all that.

GFL2 has an even more tortured origin, as it started up more than a year ago in CN while Yuzhong was still busy writing the conclusion to GFL1 and they thought they could get away with filler events for the first year. Then the Raymond Incident happened and nearly killed GFL2 in the cradle, and so they pushed up Global launch and rewrote most of the old event stories

So are we acually playing the best version of GF2 now? Very interesting insight.

Yuzhong has since finished writing the last story bits for GFL1 and is now writing full time for GFL2. Expect unforeseen consequences

To say that I can't wait to see what he'll do, is to say nothing

But this also means that the first game's story recap is far from being done and there's even more hours of it will still be left to watch. Ah, and here I thought that I only have 1 episode left... Well then, I guess there's no way I can know everything about the first game's story anytimes soon, so I might as well just continue playing GF2 and wait for the rest of the recap until it's 100% done.

I don't like that we have entire month long patches with nearly zero interaction with the main cast on the Elmo.

Yeah, about that. Peritya is already available and on board of the Elmo and yet Krolik talks about her as if she's not there at all, same goes for all the rest of the characters who's not a part of the main cast. That's not good.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

You mean the Part 1 and 2 of the current event or do we get a proper Chapter 9/10 (hopefully viewing the same time frame from Commander's viewpoint)? I thought Aphelion was well written but it didn't advance the plot hardly at all, and I don't like that we have entire month long patches with nearly zero interaction with the main cast on the Elmo. We already knew before this event even started that Paradeus was back in operation and using underground facilities to make mutants and "fully immune individuals" using collapse radiation. Introducing Dimitry and his faction really did nothing except add a bunch of filler. Meanwhile, I still wanna know what's going on with the Helenas.

Aphelion is Chapters 9 and 10 in CN as of a recent patch

Because of differing event timing, and also the fact that the previous 2 events we saw in Global are re-written, SKK didn't actually do anything in CN the way he did in our versions of Daiyan's and Ressi's events. So all of that was retconned in, and explains why there is so much filler in the first 2/3 of Aphelion's story

That said, the entire arc with H.I.D.E. 404 and Dmitriy's squad is extremely good and the ending really highlights the differences between the humans and the robots and how they think and act. The Dolls never really understood what it means that people die when they are killed, since as AI-piloted cybernetic platforms they can simply be downloaded from a recent backup and continue indefinitely or as long as technology can continue to power their frames and store their Neural Cloud backups

Aphelion is really about humanity's will to sacrifice for a better future, up to and including humans giving up their only lives. It's also a pretty thinly veiled reference to the Soviet Union's sacrifice in World War II, a war where at least 50 million people died and it's estimated between 20-25 million of those deaths were Soviets. No nation sacrificed more to turn back the tide of the Nazis more than the Soviet Union in human history, something that's largely forgotten or ignored today by much of the West

I actually didn't realize we were already caught up, good stuff. I just hope that doesn't mean even longer periods of time between each story chapter. I find the combat to be a bit easy in this game, so I'm pretty much here for the story and hoping they add some of my favorite dolls from GFL1.

I don't know who your favorites are but there's hundreds of Dolls in GFL1 and it takes way longer to add new units in GFL2 since it's now fully in 3D so I hope your favorites are pretty popular from GFL1 because they'll be the first ones added

I'll be honest, I hope we don't go sci-fi fictional supernatural time travel in this story. Lots of people loved that part of GFL1, but I think it jumped the shark quite a bit. You know who has already been teased again though, and with Dandelion seemingly joining us for the foreseeable future, I'm almost positive they're going to revisit that aspect of the story again. The world and the Commander's storyline is already good enough, I feel that they don't need all of that goofy stuff to keep it compelling. But I guess we'll see what we get.

LOL you should play Reverse Collapse because that one is all about the sci-fi shit plus a nice dose of Eldritch body horror to go with it

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Yeah, about that. Peritya is already available and on board of the Elmo and yet Krolik talks about her as if she's not there at all, same goes for all the rest of the characters who's not a part of the main cast. That's not good.

Canonically, the only ones on the Elmo are the "main story" group: Krolik, Nemesis, Vepley, and Cellphone

The other Doll with them is Groza, who I'll get to in a moment

The agreement which prevents SKK from any contact with Dolls previously employed by G&K is still in force as of the current time, as mentioned in the Ullrid/Suomi event. This is why Suomi has to leave and return to the Doll Collective at the end of that event

H.I.D.E. 404 arrives at the Elmo as of the end of Aphelion. They were always a mercenary unit which was loosely allied with G&K during GFL1, they are not technically bound by the terms of the agreement

All other Dolls which were previously employed by G&K are not canonically on the Elmo and won't be until such time as the agreement is terminated during the story of GFL2

Groza is on the Elmo for unspecified mysterious and suspicious reasons, she was a G&K Doll but was found by SKK nearly destroyed and the story hasn't gotten to why she's allowed to stay yet but so far it's been ominous for her and SKK

This is a common thing in gacha games, where units which aren't actually participating in the story (or may be antagonists, or even dead) can be summoned because duh money good

Probably the most notorious example I can think of recently of this is Himeko in Honkai Impact 3rd, who dies during the events of the main story but remains a playable character after her death and even got new versions of her as summons after she canonically died

 

[Pejo]

Aphelion is Chapters 9 and 10 in CN as of a recent patch

Got it, well, at least we move forward from it now.

Because of differing event timing, and also the fact that the previous 2 events we saw in Global are re-written, SKK didn't actually do anything in CN the way he did in our versions of Daiyan's and Ressi's events. So all of that was retconned in, and explains why there is so much filler in the first 2/3 of Aphelion's story

Makes sense.

That said, the entire arc with H.I.D.E. 404 and Dmitriy's squad is extremely good and the ending really highlights the differences between the humans and the robots and how they think and act. The Dolls never really understood what it means that people die when they are killed, since as AI-piloted cybernetic platforms they can simply be downloaded from a recent backup and continue indefinitely or as long as technology can continue to power their frames and store their Neural Cloud backups

Aphelion is really about humanity's will to sacrifice for a better future, up to and including humans giving up their only lives. It's also a pretty thinly veiled reference to the Soviet Union's sacrifice in World War II, a war where at least 50 million people died and it's estimated between 20-25 million of those deaths were Soviets. No nation sacrificed more to turn back the tide of the Nazis more than the Soviet Union in human history, something that's largely forgotten or ignored today by much of the West

I actually didn't pick up on the Russia sacrifices from WWII reference, but it totally tracks now that you've mentioned it, and is a nice nod. And as I said, I think Aphelion was well written, I just didn't need BOTH story chapters covering that bit. First half with no Elmo gang, fine, sure, set the stage, introduce the characters and plot, but the part 2 being what it was, was a poor decision in my opinion. We could have gotten through the Dimitry arc by like stage 5, into the Blusphere stuff by like stage 8 and then coasted out a reunion stage or two with some setup for the next chapter. As it was, we got 20~ stages of the Dimitry arc and an afterword with SKK that ends on an unsatisfying cliffhanger. It's not gonna stop me from playing and enjoying the story, but I sure hope that's not the standard moving forward where we're barely involved. SKK actually has a story, a personality, motivations, regrets, and a goal, etc. We don't need these filler stories because the protagonist is right there with plenty to explore.

I don't know who your favorites are but there's hundreds of Dolls in GFL1 and it takes way longer to add new units in GFL2 since it's now fully in 3D so I hope your favorites are pretty popular from GFL1 because they'll be the first ones added

Yea I am well aware that it's unlikely I'll see my favorites anytime soon, but I'm here for it if and when it happens. Springfield is already in the game, just not in Global yet, and I'm also a fan of PA-15, TAR-21, M950A, MG5, etc. They had lots of great designs in the first game. It's kinda unfortunate that so far they're focusing so much on Russian and Chinese dolls, but it's a CN game, so I get why they do it.

LOL you should play Reverse Collapse because that one is all about the sci-fi shit plus a nice dose of Eldritch body horror to go with it

It's in the backlog, staring me in the face every time I launch Steam. One of these days...

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Canonically, the only ones on the Elmo are the "main story" group: Krolik, Nemesis, Vepley, and Cellphone

The other Doll with them is Groza, who I'll get to in a moment

That's a bit odd considering I've so many characters on the Elmo already. But they clearly wrote the story around the main group so it's understandable. I guess if they had at least a year of extra dev time, they could done something about the other characters, although it's a lot of work given that the game is in full 3D now and not some cheap flash game.

The agreement which prevents SKK from any contact with Dolls previously employed by G&K is still in force as of the current time, as mentioned in the Ullrid/Suomi event. This is why Suomi has to leave and return to the Doll Collective at the end of that event

Okay, no spoilers please about the first game from here on out, I'd love to watch the recap and find out myself what happened. I also haven't played any event in GF2 before Aphelion, so they'll probably add better versions of past events in the future since there's Past Events option in the menu already.

H.I.D.E. 404 arrives at the Elmo as of the end of Aphelion. They were always a mercenary unit which was loosely allied with G&K during GFL1, they are not technically bound by the terms of the agreement

404 and TF DEFY, they've quite complicated history based on the first game.

All other Dolls which were previously employed by G&K are not canonically on the Elmo and won't be until such time as the agreement is terminated during the story of GFL2

Groza is on the Elmo for unspecified mysterious and suspicious reasons, she was a G&K Doll but was found by SKK nearly destroyed and the story hasn't gotten to why she's allowed to stay yet but so far it's been ominous for her and SKK

Something is up with Groza for sure and there's barely any content exploring how all of them got together, which I hope will be fixed via special story events in the future - and I'm sure it will be. Like, I'd love to know what's up with Nemesis and why she talks like she does, how Krolik can understand what she means and all that.

This is a common thing in gacha games, where units which aren't actually participating in the story (or may be antagonists, or even dead) can be summoned because duh money good

Probably the most notorious example I can think of recently of this is Himeko in Honkai Impact 3rd, who dies during the events of the main story but remains a playable character after her death and even got new versions of her as summons after she canonically died

Btw, were there S rank versions of A rank characters or they didn't do it in GF1? I'd love to see S rank Groza and Nemesis in the future with next gen frames, new abilities and stuff in the future. Persicaria already gave them a boost, but I'd love to see S rank versions too and test them in action.

As for the participation, well, in the first game there were separate stories about characters which took place before or during events of the main story, so I'm sure they'll think of some clever ways to do it again. I'll hold off from playing the Hard version of the story campaign just in case they'll make significant changes to it in terms of writing and stuff (that is unless they already did and I just don't know about it).

 

[Agent_4Seven]

 

[Agent_4Seven]

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Well, based on my current estimates (looks like I underestimated last time), I think I'll have at least 190 pulls saved + however many the next update will have (probably around 110-120+, Idk) so that's at least 300 pulls. Plenty enough to get 1 dupe of Vector and then go for at least one copy of Dush, maybe I'll even go for her weapon Vector's weapon but I haven't decided that yet.

Almost finished Chapter 8 of the story and I gotta be honest, outside of family reunion and stuff around it, I'm not really diggin' what they did so far. Like, religeous cults are not very interesting even if it was a part of the GF1's plot at one point which was not fully fnished. Also, I'm REALLY, really sorry for Vepley, poor girl, man, nobody wants to hang around with her, play along with what she does, at least ones let her do what she loves to lighten the mood and... it's just so sad Like, I get that she's in the middles of bad shit happening and all that, but I'm starting to think that it still could've been much better for her to stay with Saga, at least she care about her

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Finally finished Aphelion. Damn, what a fuckin' story. Character development is incredible the whole way through, the overall vibe and quality of the whole thing is clearly far better than the main story (so far) and it shows almost right from the start and it gets better the more you play. There's also far more story, dialogues and much better CGI cutscenes here as well than in a few chapters of the main story even. Why would you not make it available for everyone to play after today is beyond me. Like, everything else is fine, but the story part of the event which is a direct continuation of the main story? I just don't get it.

If Aphelion is any indication of incredible things to come story and character development wise, to say that I'm excited about the future of the game is to say nothing.

 

[Pejo]

Guess I'm alone in not really caring for Aphelion. As you said, the writing and presentation was top notch, but we got an entire month of no progress in the main story line so we could wank off Klukai and Dimitry.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Guess I'm alone in not really caring for Aphelion. As you said, the writing and presentation was top notch, but we got an entire month of no progress in the main story line so we could wank off Klukai and Dimitry.

Honestly? I'd take a full month of Aphelion-like story again over anything (clearly not that great) writers of the main story did so far.

Like, the main story is not terrible, don't get me wrong, not great so far and for the most part, but not terrible (I can go into more detail but... nah, the way I see it, everything is already fixed in Aphelion and it'll get better from there), but only after playing Aphelion I can see that it could've been SO MUCH BETTER if they'd just waited for the main writer to finish GF1 story first and then launched the game worldwide.

It doesn't look like we're getting any main story updates (chapter 10 and beyond) for the next 3 months at least, ma dude, so... yeah. But after playing Aphelion. Pizdetc, I'd say just take your time and deliver one banger after another in parts, while we gather more characters, skiping the ones we don't really need so bad, farming mats, saving pulls and play other games. Like, that's the way to do it and I wish ZZZ and did the same tbh.

But Idk, maybe I'm the only one who thinks that this is the right way to go here. Like, I still barely played Clair Obscur (only played through intro) cuz of WuWa and GF2 (thankfully I don't have to play ZZZ much cuz I'm waiting for the very last day to play through all the story content) and I'd love to finally play Clair Obscure proper for the next few weeks at least

Also. Rest in peace, Dima

 

[Pejo]

Honestly? I'd take a full month of Aphelion-like story again over anything (clearly not that great) writers of the main story did so far.

I find the main story very compelling. Maybe it's the background I have with GFL1, but I want to see what the 10 years between games have done to the world and characters from the first one. I want to see the end of the agreement SKK signed to prevent him from teaming up with the dolls. I wanna see the Helenas' story, Kalina, etc. Watching some meaningless conflict for a month long event just to show a few key points about humanity etc was just a huge waste of time, to me.

Like, the main story is not terrible, don't get me wrong, not great so far and for the most part, but not terrible (I can go into more detail but... nah, the way I see it, everything is already fixed in Aphelion and it'll get better from there), but only after playing Aphelion I can see that it could've been SO MUCH BETTER if they'd just waited for the main writer to finish GF1 story first and then launched the game worldwide.

As U Unknown Soldier said above, the main story and the events had significant rewrites due to some drama on the CN side, so it's not just the "main" writer being involved with GFL1. Still, even if the presentation wasn't as good, at least it's centered around a main storyline and not just fluff. I do agree that the story will likely get better from here, but I still had no problem with the storyline as its been presented in Global version. Can the presentation and continuity improve? Yes, but it was still interesting and well written, in my opinion.

It doesn't look like we're getting any main story updates (chapter 10 and beyond) for the next 3 months at least, ma dude, so... yeah. But after playing Aphelion. Pizdetc, I'd say just take your time and deliver one banger after another in parts, while we gather more characters, skiping the ones we don't really need so bad, farming mats, saving pulls and play other games. Like, that's the way to do it and I wish ZZZ and did the same tbh.

In a bubble for people that play a lot of games, yea, it's nice to have time between important stuff, but I still don't think it was necessary to have a whole month and two entire chapters (which will become actual main story chapters when they finish reorganizing everything) about this Dimitry subplot. As I said above, I think one half of Aphelion about the Dimitry stuff would have been plenty, then 2nd half we reunite earlier with SKK/Klukai and advance the story from there. It was just too much fluff, in my opinion, to have both story segments not move the needle at all in the main plot.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

I find the main story very compelling. Maybe it's the background I have with GFL1, but I want to see what the 10 years between games have done to the world and characters from the first one. I want to see the end of the agreement SKK signed to prevent him from teaming up with the dolls. I wanna see the Helenas' story, Kalina, etc. Watching some meaningless conflict for a month long event just to show a few key points about humanity etc was just a huge waste of time, to me.

I like the main story from a perspective of a reunion of the main cast of the first game, as well what you mentioned but...

As U Unknown Soldier said above, the main story and the events had significant rewrites due to some drama on the CN side, so it's not just the "main" writer being involved with GFL1. Still, even if the presentation wasn't as good, at least it's centered around a main storyline and not just fluff. I do agree that the story will likely get better from here, but I still had no problem with the storyline as its been presented in Global version.

Did we actually got to see the significant rewrites in Global version though? If so, it makes me wonder what the hell was there before it even happened.

Ah, I'll just say this to maybe let you know exactly what I have problems with in the main story so far. The way it's structured, how abrupt it can be during some key moments, how it likes to jump from story to combat with some missing parts as to why and how something happened, how much filler there is in terms of combat sections which could've been replaced with better writing, character moments, better and more CGI cutscenes instead. In comparison, Aphelion with it's only two chapters has absolutely zero filler (imho) and needless combat scenarios (I'm not counting optional combat sections, just like in the main story) to pad the playtime and... well, I already mentioned everything else with which you also agree.

As for the focus on 404. Well, the first game also had separate stories related to both 404 and TF DEFY to explain some stuff that happened during, before or after some main story events, so it's nothing new. I'm pretty sure we'll get more, cool and even better stuff when it comes to Commander & Co. now that the main writer is back and Aphelion ending clearly shows that. I also don't have a problem with separate stories in the future with a focus on other characters / teams to exlain / expand plot points, lore, have more character development etc.

Can the presentation and continuity improve? Yes, but it was still interesting and well written, in my opinion.

Holy shit ma dude, GF2 main story so far is ways better than anything in ZZZ or WuWa to me combined, which is why I made a decision to support the game for as long as I am able to, cuz it's goddamn incredible and I LOVE everything about it, the world, characters, lore, you name it. It's like a much better version of Front Mission combined with MGS-like lore and stuff. Absolutely fucking perfect combination of stuff I love.

My only wish is that I would love to use mechs, drones and other shit in combat as well the cast of characters. I wish for combat to be more difficult not in term of HP and DMG inflation, with much better designed and varied missions and bigger maps with stealth, tactics and reconnaissance in mind, kinda like what they did in one of the optional content in Aphelion where you can look for bosses and finish bounties, but much more realistic and believable, you know? Like, I would love for missions to be much more complex, to have much smoother and better transition between visual novel stuff and combat, to have dialogues between characters on the fly while you doing shit on the mission (MGS style), for them not to be all about combat only and one an done thing, for missions to have better stories to tell. Like, I would love to play a completely stealth mission to gather some intel, check stuff before getting into combat and shit. Changes like this could make the story and character interaction SO MUCH bette and it'll alsi eliminate the need to write and explain things with text like they're doing right now... don't you agree?

They could't do stuff like this in the first game due to its design, but now they have everything they need to make it all happen. I'd love so see different and unique sounds for each gun instead of how it is now when every AR, SR or SG sounds the same and I'm sure they can do that too.

In a bubble for people that play a lot of games, yea, it's nice to have time between important stuff, but I still don't think it was necessary to have a whole month and two entire chapters (which will become actual main story chapters when they finish reorganizing everything) about this Dimitry subplot. As I said above, I think one half of Aphelion about the Dimitry stuff would have been plenty, then 2nd half we reunite earlier with SKK/Klukai and advance the story from there. It was just too much fluff, in my opinion, to have both story segments not move the needle at all in the main plot.

You know, this whole reorganization thing makes me want to replay the story at some point even more and see how much better it is with all the chages in place. I even have plans to replay it only using the main cast of characters as it was intended. I just wish they'll make changes to the combat and maps as well and will have lvl 60 difficulty option, cuz I honestly hate to do it again with overpowered characters which are not part of the main cast in the story and want to have fair challange instead.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

New Promo Code: LABORDAY

Dush and Vector banners will go live in 3,5+ hrs

More info about the latest update:

[Update Contents]

- New Doll -
■ Elite Doll [Vector]

- New Weapons -
■ Elite Weapon [Banshee's Whisper]
■ Standard Weapon [Ksvec .45 ACP]
■ Retired Weapon [Retired Ksvec .45 ACP]

- New Outfits and Skins -
■ Outfit [Vector - Vivi Sometimes Hides Her Molotovs] and its accompanying swappable orange-quality accessories.
* As this is the first release of orange-quality accessories, the accessory packages in [Quality Selection] will be available with an exclusive first-release discount, priced at the same level as purple-quality accessory packages. Subsequently, the orange-quality accessory packages will return to the regular discount ratio.
■ Outfit [Vector - Molotov Bunny]
■ Outfit [Colphne - Silent Heart]

- New Contents -
■ Time-Limited Event [Escape from Cyborg].
・ During the event, Commanders can receive generous rewards including [Collapse Pieces], [Targeted Access Permissions], [Access Permissions] by clearing event stages and participating in the event Game mode.
■ Rate Up Event [Targeted Procurement] and [Military Upgrade].
・ During the event, the drop rate for Elite Doll [Vector] and Elite Weapon [Banshee's Whisper] will be increased.
・ During the event, the drop rate for Elite Doll [Dushevnaya] and Elite Weapon [Eulogistic Verse] will be increased.
■ [Neural Helix] System Expansion
・ First batch: [Qiongjiu], [Ullrid], [Makiatto], [Groza]
■ Added new Challenge Tier 9 [Ledyanaya Mogila] in [Boss Fight] - [Standard Battle].
* Available from May 5, 5:00 (UTC-4)
■ Added new Boss [Blusphere] in [Boss Fight] - [Crossroad Challenge].
* Available from May 5, 5:00 (UTC-4)
■ Covenant and Archive unlocked for [Vector], [Dushevnaya] and [Groza].
■ Time-Limited Event [Unspoken Feelings]
・Complete tasks to receive [Colphne's Outfit - Silent Heart] for free.
* [Colphne's Outfit - Silent Heart] will be added to [Shop] - [Outfit Boutique] after the event. Please pay attention to the deadline of the event and claim the corresponding rewards in time.
■ New [Formation] system.
・Commanders can create multiple formation presets in the Formation Overview which you can quickly select and deploy formation presets at the deployment screen. When editing a formation preset, you can assign a Doll's weapons, attachments, Common Keys, Fixed Keys, and so on.
■ Added [Regular Commissions] in [Commission].
・Commander can access the progress of the currently open periodic gameplay through this entry.
■ Added [Journey Milestone] in [Commission].
・Complete specified milestone to receive [Battle Decoration], it can be used to exchange rewards including [Vector - Molotov Bunny], [Skin - Fiery Eyes, Golden Pupils] and [Exquisite Curio - Deichgraf] in [Glory Store].
* [Journey Milestone] system will be available after the maintenance, [Vector - Molotov Bunny] can be used after obtaining the Doll [Vector], please pay attention to the opening time of [Targeted Procurement - Vector].
■ Added [Curio Display] in [Public Area].
・Collect [Curios] to unlock [Curio Gallery] and earn Recollection Scores. When the Recollection Scores reach the specified value, the progress rewards can be obtained. Additionally, Commander can place the [Curios] in the display column, and also browse the obtained [Curios] in the [Curio Storage].
■ Added select Doll to upgrade feature in [Supply Mission] - [Targeted Study].
■ Added [Automatic Action Sequence] at the deployment screen.
・Commanders can determine the order of Doll actions during auto battle based on the current formation.
■ Added Overall Volume in the [Settings] - [Sound].
■ Added [Extreme Calibration] System.
・When all the stats of the attachment have been calibrated to 100%, you can further enhance them to the maximum with [Targeting Calibration Chips].
■ Added [Target Practice] in [Campaign] - [Combat Simulation].
・Commander can set the Weaknesses and skills of the Target within the level to take on challenges. After the challenge, the points obtained by Commanders will be recorded and rated. At the same time, there will be corresponding leaderboards for each attribute weakness.
■ Added [Chase Camera in Auto Battle].
・Commanders can enable [Chase Camera in Auto Battle] in [Settings] - [Other] - [Combat Settings]
■ Added [Auto Battle Settings].
・Commanders can enable auto battle for all battles or specific stages in [Settings] - [Other] - [Auto Battle Settings].
■ Added [Regular Gift Packs] tab in [Shop] - [Quality Selection].
■ Added Regular Gift Packs [Premium Selection α], [Premium Selection β], [Premium Selection γ], Time-Limited Free Package [Weekly Joy Supply Box] and Time-Limited Package [Targeted Gift Crate] in [Shop] - [Quality Selection].
■ Added [Classic Gift Box - Vivi Sometimes Hides Her Molotovs] and [Classic Outfit Box - Shining Reverse] on Limited-Time Discount in [Shop] - [Quality Selection].

- Optimizations and Bug Fixes -
■ Optimized the [Trading Post] interface display in the [Shop], added shortcuts for multiple exchange stores.
■ Adjusted the maximum number of double reward attempts for [Neural Survey] and [Supply Mission] to 6 during the double reward event.
■ Removed the limitation of Daily Sync Permission in [Standardizing Sync].
■ Adjusted [Monthly Incremental Contract] bonus to "The first two Standardizing Sync runs per day will yield 200% rewards".
■ Adjusted some Doll affiliations in [Elmo Server Room] - [Character Archive].
■ Added [Skip All] in some story stages.
■ Removed some enemy close-up animations at the beginning of combat.
■ Added confirmation prompts in [Boundary Push].
■ In the [Boundary Push] - [Bounties], if the designated boss unit is not eliminated, the exploration completion prompt will no longer pop up after all supply boxes have been opened.
■ Added the red dot notification display for refreshing tasks in the [Boundary Push] - [Bounties].
■ Optimized UI display for [Boundary Push], added exploration progress display, optimized the display of [Bounties] entry.
■ Added confirmation prompts when the shotgun Doll is not present and the [Weapon Enhancement II] is not activated in the [Boundary Push].
■ Auto open feature for Sentiment Gift Boxes in the [Shop] - [Trading Post] - [Dispatch Shop].
■ Added the display of cumulative reward progress in the [Shop] - [Quality Selection] - [Regular Gift Pack].
■ Added Tag for commonly-used Dolls. Dolls marked as frequently used will be ranked at the front in the character list.
■ Fixed an issue with the incorrect description text for Sharkry's Portrait.
■ Fixed an issue where the game cannot be resulted after eliminate Darture in the Boundary Push under certain circumstances.
■ Fixed an issue where in the levels of Boundary Push, some special circumstances would directly lead to the battle.
■ Fixed an issue where there was a probability of the game getting stuck when exiting the boss battle in the Boundary Push mode.
■ Fixed an issue with the abnormal action of [Tololo's Outfit - Celestial River at Dusk] in the battle.
■ Fixed an issue with the abnormal in-game effect of the Doll [Dushevnaya]'s [Fixed Key - Heart of the Sage], when gaining immunity to movement debuffs under the effects of "Glacial Domain".
■ Adjusted the texts for certain packages.
■ Fixed certain issues with the texts.

 

[Pejo]

Damn I was looking at the new achievement medals shop to get Vector's bunny girl skin, you need 2400 medals...

Sure hope there's some easy achievements because that's a LOT. From just the ones I could claim from what I already accomplished, I have just shy of 200...

*edit*

Nevermind, I have 450 from the ones I can claim already. Still seems like 2400 is going to take a while to grind out. Love that the shops are all consolidated in the same menu now. It was a pain keeping track of where each shop used to be.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Got Vector in 40+ pulls. gone for her weapon but got Tololo's weapon instead, then got Qiongjiu's weapon from the shop and now I got almost full fire team ready with everything except Vector's weapon.

Gone for Dush as well after all that but lost 50/50 to Sabrina... Uh, I think I'll get Dush in like 2-3 more pulls, like I know I will BUT...

I really fuckin' like Dush, man, her design and personailty, she even looks unique af with her body frame.... but fuckin' hell there's almost no other Ice characters in the game and she'll be basically useless right now. Yeah, there's Makiatto, but she's a sniper as well and there won't be Suomi rerun in a few months if not more.
Fuck. I can "sort of" use Dush now cuz there's enemies and bosses weak to Ice, but I can do that without her just fine and she's bad at bossing, Makiatto is better at it (will take even longer for her rerun than Suomi cuz she was available just a month ago or so iirc)... but there's Nikketa who's also a sniper (not available in Global version yet), she's even better than Makiatto and I like her desing way more than Makiatto's, not to mention she has really fuckin' cool robot dog:

Vector at least needs to be V1 cuz her first dupe is insanely powerful and basically essencial, but if I'll go for dush I might lose 50/50 again and not get Vector's V1 (if I even gather enough pulls in 20 days). Ugh, why haven't they rerun Dush during the next phase of the update (I won't be pulling for the next featured banners)? Why does it have to be so complicated with Dush, ffs? Damn...

In regards to costumes. I'll be honest, I don't like 90% of them in the shop cuz some of them are stupid and others are oversexualized and completely impractical for combat. Like I know I think about it too much, but who's going to go on a mission to kill ELIDS, heavily armored military and mechs dressed in a swimsuit, a dress or a sport uniform?

Anyway, to me, only Klukai (black one), Groza and Nemesis have great combat costumes and I'd love to see something more like this from Nikke instead:

These are also much more appropriate for practical combat use and look much better than 90% of the costumes in GF2's shop imho

 

[Agent_4Seven]

One hell of a brainstorm I went through last night and ultimately decided to get Dush instead of a dupe of Vector right away. I already tested Vector without her dupe and she is a monster and performs great already, plus I got purple weapon for her with fire dmg bonus and a cool black and gold skin of her weapon from the Aphelion event store so I'll be fine for now. I might try to get her dupe or her weapon (I've 100% now), it depends on how many pulls I'll manage to save in 20 days (I've 18 pulls left so I need around 52-ish more at least).

So I've been thinking and I pretty much have Fire team ready, so I should start building Ice one, not worry about Dush rerun in the future anymore + she got new Mod Key in CN version so it should make her better at V0, I only need to lvl her up to 60 when we get the Mod Key in Global Version). It's just not good to have only fire mod team ready and use it 100% of the time, now I can at least have a second team with the main cast and a great Ice supporter cuz it looks like Dush is anything but DPS and she'll work great with other Ice character in the future.

But now I have no resources left for guns and better start farming, thankfully I have plenty of stuff to gain more energy and not wait for it to recharge. And there's also a problem with Attachments and getting the right ones for the characters and at this point in time, they're all over the place. I've got great attachments already, but not a full set of 3 for each gun and character so I also need to work on that and that's pretty much what I'll be doing for the next couple of months until 416's rerun

Thank god it's not that expensive to lvl up character to lvl 40 and promote to 60 and you don't need a lot of mats for that too

UPDATE:

Really not a fan of the new event's story. Not only is it not voiced at all and reuses old backgrounds, but it feels like a filler episode from 90s TV shows back when there were 20-25 episodes per season. I get what they're trying to do here, but it's not interesting or compelling in any way cuz it was done already dozens of times and the lack of VA kills all the effort. Oh well, not every story event will be like Aphelion I guess so I should temper my expectations for the future

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Aphelion was a major event, and this Escape From Tarkov Cyborg event has a cute story

BTW for those who don't know, they refer to The Division because there was a collab event between The Division and GFL1 back in the day

Yes, Tom Clancy's The Division, the Ubisoft game

Gachas often have weird crossover events like this

edit:

Spoiler

Alright well halfway through the event story it becomes Sword Art Online and gets a lot more interesting, plus these new members of H.I.D.E. 404 Team B are all fucking adorable

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Actually now that I've completed the entire event story of Escape From Tarkov Cyborg I really like the story and I thought it was really fun

Plus it had so many references to games, I love how they were basically playing Dark Souls in there LMAO

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Idk man, I'm just not feelin' it with this one in terms of story - it's nothing new for me and I've seen a lot of this type of stories before, just not in GF universe of course.

What I do like though is getting to know Vector and others. Like, I never would've thought by looking at her art and stuff, that Vector is so down to earth type of person and not that confident about herself and her abilities, and Mechty is so into video games and stuff. I just wish the event was fully voiced at least cuz I like Mechty's Japanese VA a lot and I'd love to hear Vector's voice and voices of others for that matter

 

[Pejo]

I don't think any gacha has ever had a collab that fit as well as GFL1 with VA-11 Hall-A. Just everything about that collab was

 

[Agent_4Seven]

And she's finally complete. I only have to get one dupe of Vector during rerun and I'll be golden

Even though there's 75/25, pitty on weapon banners are not that great to say the least. Had to go almost all the way two times to get her weapon. Now I'm in saving mode for 416's rerun in two monts from now.

I almost out of resources to lvl characters and weapons now (one of the two currencies the game has along with gold one). I guess I have to farm for quite a while to get enough stuff and lvl all characters and their weapons to 60 to access some content and be able to complete it.
Speaking of which, I can access some of it already so that's good and it made me finally go and mess around with attachments and stuff, lvl them up and shit... Man, GF2 has the best in genre QOL features after a recent update, it's just an incredible time saver and no other gacha game has it, not even WuWa to a full extent.

So here's how it work, you have this Formation screen where you can build teams, but it's not only that, you can also pick weapons, attachments and keys there for each character and as long as you don't have exact same character in other teams, you can pick say their barrel with great stats or some other attachment, you can do that with keys and weapons as well, basically, what they did here is completely eliminated needless, boring and time wasting inventory and character management forever! So forget about the Refitting Room after you equip all the best stuff for each individual character, you just need to set up all your teams on the Formation screen and that's it! You never have to worry about anything in regards to character and inventory management! Now, granted, we can barely have 2 full teams on the Global here, so team building for now will be a thing, but you only have to do that one time and you're good to go, well, they'll be adding new keys in the future so you probably have to tweak a thing or two when that happens, but it's nowhere near as boring and times consuming as doing everything from scratch everytime like it was before and in so many other gacha games.

But that's not all, there's also two tuning items which you can use to upgrade attachments, but one is way better than the other. So the orange one basically let's you boost all 4 stats, but there's a catch, if you'll be doing it multiple times, you can lose boots on two of the stats, so what you should be doing is do it one time for all 4 stats if attachments have all 4 perfects stats like mine have above and then go for Extreme tuning and boost all stats to 200%.

It's all great and all, but there's a catch here too, or more like two - 1) Extreme tuning it's insanely expensive, so to boost one stat one time you need 50K gold and it can take up to 2mil+ to get 200% boost on all of them, 2) Extreme tuning item is just as extreme in terms of availability, unlike the orange ones which you can get a lot of, but at least you can do precise stat boosting and forget about trash RNG boosts forever! Moreover as I already mentioned, you can give perfect attachments to anyone on the Formation screen as long as you don't have a character on the team who already has it, so you can potentially have at least 1 (at least) perfect barrels of each weapon type for the main DPS to be golden, it'll take time, but it's way less time in comparison to going for multiple dupes of each barrel for each weapon type. Like, imagine if all of this was a thing in ZZZ, uh, #miHoYowillnever.

You still have to deal with RNG of course when it comes to obtaining attachments, but I least you can focus on DMG elements and specific weapon types for each class while doing it, so you only need to worry about stats. I've like great barrel attachments with perfect stats for 70% of all classes in the game already, as well as some great ones here and there for the next 3 slots, so when I'm done lvl up characters and weapons to 60, I can focus solely on attachments and pile up character and weapon lvl resources while playing the game normally and will never have a problem like right now when I don't have enough.

I don't think I'm ready for Gunsmoke Frontline yet, but I hope there's at least lvl 50 stuff there to start with.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

 

[Pejo]

Christmas in May! I didn't watch the whole thing, just skipped through. Are there any redeem codes?

Bet Yoohee's costume had your face all scrunched up Agent_4Seven

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Christmas in May! I didn't watch the whole thing, just skipped through. Are there any redeem codes?

Nope, just like last time

Bet Yoohee's costume had your face all scrunched up Agent_4Seven

Oh, believe it or not, I was just ready to...

...and then my phone started to ring. Uh, worst day im my life.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Stupid jokes aside. I won't be pulling for any character until 416 rerun in ~2 months from now cuz there's no one I want - and some of the characters are wasted pulls cuz better ones are coming from CN soon. Physical characters are not needed right now just like sword users cuz there's no content for them in the game and for some other teams (Hydro, Electric, Ice) DPSs or great support characters are not yet available in Global.

What's great about GF2 is that there's really no rush to get absolutely everyone right now and we know what's coming and can plan for it, there's also plenty of reruns and they're doing it fast. So what I'll do is first get all 404 and TF DEFY characters in the game meaning team leaders and DPSs and then get everyone else. It's going to be tricky to do with the Electric team cuz they'll probably release Leva later than the rest, but I like most of the characters there and will pull for them anyway so no big deal.

Hopefully I'll manage to save enough for 416 and her weapon cuz they might just start to release a lot of bangers right after her from CN so I also must be ready for that too. The real issue right now and for the next few months is that there's not going to be story content except character ones, so there's not a lot we could do in the game until they'll finally restructure the main campaign and add new chapters. On the plus side, we'll have more time to play something else

 

[Felessan]

I'll write it here to not spread topics
Game really generous but wtf at const requirements.... Yoohee really workable at V3 and V2 Vector and V0 Vector just not the same char. Mihoyo leaves consts mostly for min-maxing and here you have to invest in characters, as consts are way too powerful.
It was same in ToF where you either pull for C6 or don't pull at all for gameplay reasons and it's really irked Genshin crowd. It wasn't that hard as game is generous and you'll just pull every other char of your element (and all anomaly chars) and it's like 1 char every 4 months so there are quite enough of pulls for that, but it was really unusual and irritating for many.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

I'll write it here to not spread topics
Game really generous but wtf at const requirements.... Yoohee really workable at V3 and V2 Vector and V0 Vector just not the same char. Mihoyo leaves consts mostly for min-maxing and here you have to invest in characters, as consts are way too powerful.
It was same in ToF where you either pull for C6 or don't pull at all for gameplay reasons and it's really irked Genshin crowd. It wasn't that hard as game is generous and you'll just pull every other char of your element (and all anomaly chars) and it's like 1 char every 4 months so there are quite enough of pulls for that, but it was really unusual and irritating for many.

Did you just started playing the game? If so then don't you worry about dupes, ma dude

The reruns are so frequent and rewards are so numerous and generous, that you won't have a problem at all getting characters you need at some point and soon. For example, 416 was released in Global just a month+ ago and in ~2 months from now there's going to be a rerun, so you don't have to wait half a year if not more like Miyabi in ZZZ for example or someone else in other games. There's a lot of characters you can just skip for now and only go for the best ones first, cuz some characters are not needed right now without squad leaders from CN or other characters to make them work even and be viable.

As I said above, you don't need sword users yet, you don't need Physical characters yet, Ice team is barely even here and like I posted above, there's a really cool Ice character in CN you should save for cuz she's great. Some characters are simply not worth it to go for a V6 cuz it's too much investment to make them work, whereas other characters are great at just V1 + signature weapon - Vector.

Idk if you played original game, but if not, I suggest you to watch story recap I posted above, there's only 50% of it there and for now, but you'll learn a lot about characters, what happened before GF2 and it'll make playing GF2 a much better experience. Chill out, enjoy the game and everything will come your way

 

[Felessan]

Did you just started playing the game? If so then don't you worry about dupes, ma dude

You seems to forgot but I play this game from the launch

The reruns are so frequent and rewards are so numerous and generous, that you won't have a problem at all getting characters you need at some point and soon. For example, 416 was released in Global just a month+ ago and in ~2 months from now there's going to be a rerun, so you don't have to wait half a year if not more like Miyabi in ZZZ for example or someone else in other games. There's a lot of characters you can just skip for now and only go for the best ones first, cuz some characters are not needed right now without squad leaders from CN or other characters to make them work even and be viable.

Please use current game names, it's confusing.
Having able to pull on rerun quicker doesn't change the fact that many chars benefits way too much from consts, to the point that V0 considered severely underpowered for many characters. Vast difference to ZZZ where consts are really nice to have than anything game-changing. I gritted my teeth and vent for V2 Vector as 15% team-wide damage buff is WTF

As I said above, you don't need sword users yet, you don't need Physical characters yet, Ice team is barely even here and like I posted above, there's a really cool Ice character in CN you should save for cuz she's great. Some characters are simply not worth it to go for a V6 cuz it's too much investment to make them work, whereas other characters are great at just V1 + signature weapon - Vector.

It's true for any game. You can go for Miyabi-Yanagi-Astra team and pretty much ignore all else. That team is fucking nuts and so OP that it's not even funny.
But I'm talking about overall balancing chars against dupes, and GFL2 clearly went for "more income, more consts" route

 

[Agent_4Seven]

You seems to forgot but I play this game from the launch

It's hard to keep track of everything

Please use current game names, it's confusing.

Having able to pull on rerun quicker doesn't change the fact that many chars benefits way too much from consts, to the point that V0 considered severely underpowered for many characters. Vast difference to ZZZ where consts are really nice to have than anything game-changing. I gritted my teeth and vent for V2 Vector as 15% team-wide damage buff is WTF

I tought about getting V1 Vector, but ended up going for her weapons cuz there's better chance of getting it than her V1 with 50/50, and I was right cuz I lost 50/50 and got 1st dupe of Tololo. I don't have a problem with dupes cuz I just don't play stuff I can't do, there's plenty of rewards without even that and I have a clear plan for this game. I'm not playin' MP and PVP so it's irrelevant to me and I don't have to worry about that at all.

Ah, for once there's a gacha game where I can just relax and do my thing the way I want and not worry about pulls or pulling on every banner, it's refreshing af and there's tons of great QOL features to make the experience even better.

It's true for any game. You can go for Miyabi-Yanagi-Astra team and pretty much ignore all else. That team is fucking nuts and so OP that it's not even funny.

Well here it's 416 alone which I didn't get (I use her as a support in Platoon stuff just to be done with it quickly and get rewards - no reason to do it any other way), but she'll be mine soon

But I'm talking about overall balancing chars against dupes, and GFL2 clearly went for "more income, more consts" route

Well yeah, there's characters which are only good at V6 and it's totally not worth it to go all in for them unless you really like them, but even then... Nah.
Thankfully, it's the ones I don't need / like / want in Global right now so I don't care. It sucks that I can't get Vector's V1, but I'll get it during rerun, no biggie. You don't really need Vector's V2 cuz it's better to get her weapon instead + V1.

 

[Pejo]

It's also worth keeping in mind that this game is really easy. Unless you REALLY care about Gunsmoke or endgame score modes, you absolutely don't need dupes or even signature weapons to easily clear content. Even then, you can just use a maxed out Klukai from your friend list and auto the endgame stuff. Hell, I use Krolik for fun on challenge stages just because I can.

This is one of the few gachas I play where I literally have no feeling of FOMO from not going for dupes/signatures.

 

[Felessan]

Ah, for once there's a gacha game where I can just relax and do my thing the way I want and not worry about pulls or pulling on every banner, it's refreshing af and there's tons of great QOL features to make the experience even better.

For collecting and easy play it for sure more relaxed gacha compared to Mihoyo's

Well yeah, there's characters which are only good at V6 and it's totally not worth it to go all in for them unless you really like them, but even then... Nah.
Thankfully, it's the ones I don't need / like / want in Global right now so I don't care. It sucks that I can't get Vector's V1, but I'll get it during rerun, no biggie. You don't really need Vector's V2 cuz it's better to get her weapon instead + V1.

I'm V2+weapon))
The level of upgrade with each stage, be it weapon or dupe, is huge if you care about this stuff.

It's also worth keeping in mind that this game is really easy. Unless you REALLY care about Gunsmoke or endgame score modes, you absolutely don't need dupes or even signature weapons to easily clear content. Even then, you can just use a maxed out Klukai from your friend list and auto the endgame stuff. Hell, I use Krolik for fun on challenge stages just because I can.
This is one of the few gachas I play where I literally have no feeling of FOMO from not going for dupes/signatures.

I like my gunsmoke numbers and how teams just melt everything away)

 

[Agent_4Seven]

I got two limited characters and a signatrue weapon for Vector by just playing the game for two weaks and getting over 300 pulls, got 4 signature weapons from standard banner and BP for Tololo, Qiongjiu, Nemesis, Mosin-Nagant and Sabrina (Peritya is next very soon), 3 dupes of Qiongjiu, 1 dupe of Tololo, tons of dupes of the main cast which are all V6 now iirc. It's simply unheard of in games like ZZZ and WuWa. And there's tons of amazing QOL featruns on top of that and stuff Pejo already mentioned.

Like, if I had a complaint about this game not related to combat (see below), then I would imidietely punch myself in the face

I'm V2+weapon))
The level of upgrade with each stage, be it weapon or dupe, is huge if you care about this stuff.

I'll probably stay on V1 (when I get it) + weapon. I mean, honestly, she's so great with all the keys and right attachments that going beyond that is just pointless to me.

The Gunsmoke stuff I could complete is not that hard and I did it without 416. I just hope that they'll revamp the whole combat design, make maps bigger and better designed for various types of gameplay, make stealth less stupid, add recon missions and much needed variety beyond just flat combat - it gets old, repetitive and boring fast cuz you're doing the same thing over and over.

I did let them know what must be done, hopefully they'll listen and make necessary changes at some point, cuz I frankly don't want to just Auto everything, I really don't, especially in the story, I want to replay the whole thing later on a harder difficulty with maxed out characters and have a challenge.

 

[Pejo]

What's the "proper" way to beat Koshmar anyways? In Challenge mode, I kept just spamming AOE moves on her and lived through the counterattacks with Suomi's shield. From the tooltips I read, she's un-targetable and highly resistant to damage without some of those guns "dead", but if you kill them all, she's invincible. So I guess you wanna kill a few then damage her?

Doesn't really matter I guess, just curious how you guys beat her.