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Gizmodo gets its hands on the new iPhone prototype

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Pimpwerx said:
Most people find an iPhone and keep it. As someone who had his 3G phone lost/stolen, I can attest to this. My ex and I also found a 2G at Subway years ago, and kept it. So it's just the universe balancing itself out. Phones are damn important. It's not something you leae lying around, much like cash, credit cards and ids. OTOH, I return lost ids. They have no value to me, so no point in swiping one of those. PEACE.
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awe shit, findsies keepies.

dick move man.
 
Gary Whitta said:
Wow.
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I'd like to think that attitude suprises me, but in all honesty there are so many people with the finders/keepers mentality it's kinda par for the course. Part of the modern world i guess. As for the handset, looks interesting. I'm kinda glad Apple are freshening up the design, makes it more interesting. The handset definitely has a more masculine feel to it imo.
 
My friend found an ipod touch in the middle of the street one day and showed it to me. I looked through the guys mail and found out his name, address, and phone number. I told him he could return it really easily, but nope, finders keepers. Personally it's not my attitude because my iphone is very important to me and I know if I lost it I would be very grateful to the person who found it.
 
Gary Whitta said:
If I find a phone in a bar, I give it to someone behind the bar to hold onto in case the person comes back in asking if anyone found a phone. That's pretty basic common sense stuff. If this guy didn't do that he's either dumb or had other motivations.
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And the guy behind the bar turns on Ebay. :lol
 
So wait.. hang on. So the guy who found the phone is a stealer now? Are you saying if you found $600 with a name on it and phone number, you'd return it? Puh lease.. get real. If yo found it, then you can have it. Of course it would be nice for the person to call you back if you lost it, but the fact still remains.. the person who found it is not a stealer. You just lost it.
 
Hieberrr said:
So wait.. hang on. So the guy who found the phone is a stealer now? Are you saying if you found $600 with a name on it and phone number, you'd return it? Puh lease.. get real. If yo found it, then you can have it. Of course it would be nice for the person to call you back if you lost it, but the fact still remains.. the person who found it is not a stealer. You just lost it.
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you are woefully misinformed :lol

finders keepers is NOT ACTUAL LAW
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good god, Gaf keeps on giving
 
cjelly said:
Not sure who is more stupid out of all of this...

Gizmodo, or the people who found the phone and sold it for $5,000...!!!
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The person who stole the phone is stupid. Could have definitely negotiated a higher price. If Denton was offering $100,000 for the ipad before launch, he'd surely have been willing to offer a substantial amount for the new iphone.

Gizmodo was stupid for acquiring possession of the phone rather than simple access, given the obvious provenance of the device. They must have decided any potential legal entanglements were better than the opportunity of their competitors also having photo-time with the phone.

But, Gizmodo was malicious in outing the Apple engineer in order to generate more marginal clicks. Not at all necessary to the story. And it seems the issue most people have with their scoop. Any enthusiasm I had for the reveal was dissipated when Gizmodo chose to "out" the engineer.

All things considered, though, $5000 is the single most stupid element of this story. Could have had so much more... Gizmodo wasn't just stupid, they were dicks. But shrewd negotiators as well.
 
Man you guys are evil. Who needs the scratch that bad to fence a lost phone? Some poor, sure, but some dude hanging out in a hipster bar?
 
Hieberrr said:
So wait.. hang on. So the guy who found the phone is a stealer now? Are you saying if you found $600 with a name on it and phone number, you'd return it? Puh lease.. get real. If yo found it, then you can have it. Of course it would be nice for the person to call you back if you lost it, but the fact still remains.. the person who found it is not a stealer. You just lost it.
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Yes, I would, although I would also expect a reward.
 
When I was little and the Giant stole the belt from Hulk Hogan, I heard the term "possession is 9/10ths of the law" from Jimmy Hart for the first time, and I actually thought that was the law.
 
Hieberrr said:
So wait.. hang on. So the guy who found the phone is a stealer now? Are you saying if you found $600 with a name on it and phone number, you'd return it? Puh lease.. get real. If yo found it, then you can have it. Of course it would be nice for the person to call you back if you lost it, but the fact still remains.. the person who found it is not a stealer. You just lost it.
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Indeed. I lost a jacket, my headphones and brolley in a club the other day that I left lying around. I tried to get the phone number of a barmaid and while my attention was gone, some cunt took it. Still did give me an excuse to go back the following to see if it had been returned by someone who took it by mistake and try again for that phone number.

Didn't get the jacket.
Didn't get the phone number.
But dem the breaks! :|

Moral of story, keep your eye on your kit and not the barmaids tits. :lol
 
Hieberrr said:
So wait.. hang on. So the guy who found the phone is a stealer now? Are you saying if you found $600 with a name on it and phone number, you'd return it? Puh lease.. get real. If yo found it, then you can have it. Of course it would be nice for the person to call you back if you lost it, but the fact still remains.. the person who found it is not a stealer. You just lost it.
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Fucking hell. It makes me sad to think there are people like this out there. Don't parents raise their kids right any more?
 
AstroLad said:
Man you guys are evil. Who needs the scratch that bad to fence a lost phone? Some poor, sure, but some dude hanging out in a hipster bar?
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i don't see why being in a hipster bar precludes him from selling the iphone. he is an apple head afterall and therefore clearly going to be in a hipster bar. entitled to due process and fair justice and treatment to all. check the constitution. can't discriminate against mac hipsters.
 
Bboy AJ said:
i don't see why being in a hipster bar precludes him from getting his iphone back. he is an apple head afterall and therefore clearly going to be in a hipster bar. entitled to due process and fair justice and treatment to all. check the constitution. can't discriminate against mac hipsters.
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Oh agreed, I was saying that the hipster barhopper should have even less reason to fence a found phone than your common poor (which I assume some of the lower-moral posters here are perhaps?). There's no excuse either way of course.
 
I wouldn't attempt to return a phone I'd found. Somebody loses something and I find it - unless it's a passport or drivers license or something that would otherwise negatively affect somebody's life - it's mine. The law? Fuck it. You lose a consumable, it's your own fault and you'd do better to look after your stuff. I wouldn't expect somebody to return something I'd lost.

This is a little different though because the phone was remotely killed, rendering it fairly useless. Obviously you know it's an iPhone, and even the most clueless muppet would easily figure out that it's different to other iPhones that are available. Little research would bring most people to the conclusion that it was a prototype. It has huge value, and could easily be sold... but I don't think I would. I would have documented it and returned it to Apple for a fee. Then I would have sent the photo's/video's to TUAW or Engadget or something.
 
AstroLad said:
Oh agreed, I was saying that the hipster barhopper should have even less reason to fence a found phone than your common poor (which I assume some of the lower-moral posters here are perhaps?). There's no excuse either way of course.
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Hail to the KING baby

I am appalled, and yet not surprised, at the rampant lack of morals or integrity found by a lot of posters here. Perhaps I am too high on my horse, or I have higher personal standards that I would want to get the item back to its rightful owner. And people wonder what is wrong with a large segment of society.
 
Majik said:
I wouldn't attempt to return a phone I'd found. Somebody loses something and I find it - unless it's a passport or drivers license or something that would otherwise negatively affect somebody's life - it's mine. The law? Fuck it. You lose a consumable, it's your own fault and you'd do better to look after your stuff. I wouldn't expect somebody to return something I'd lost.

This is a little different though because the phone was remotely killed, rendering it fairly useless. Obviously you know it's an iPhone, and even the most clueless muppet would easily figure out that it's different to other iPhones that are available. Little research would bring most people to the conclusion that it was a prototype. It has huge value, and could easily be sold... but I don't think I would. I would have documented it and returned it to Apple for a fee. Then I would have sent the photo's/video's to TUAW or Engadget or something.
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One AstroLad is plenty.
 
AstroLad said:
Man you guys are evil. Who needs the scratch that bad to fence a lost phone? Some poor, sure, but some dude hanging out in a hipster bar?
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Dude, it was a BEER GARDEN

Are German Beer Gardens Hipster Bars now?
 
mightynine said:
Dude, it was a BEER GARDEN

Are German Beer Gardens Hipster Bars now?
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Is this a serious question?

This piece on eating like a hipster in Williamsburg prominently features a beer garden.

Beer gardens + Williamsburg + Apple. I think this thread is about to supernova hipster-wise.
 
Majik said:
I wouldn't attempt to return a phone I'd found. Somebody loses something and I find it - unless it's a passport or drivers license or something that would otherwise negatively affect somebody's life - it's mine. The law? Fuck it. You lose a consumable, it's your own fault and you'd do better to look after your stuff. I wouldn't expect somebody to return something I'd lost.
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Yeah, fuck the law. Fuck common decency toward and respect for others. Fuck treating people the way you'd like to be treated by them. Fuck it all!

Tome for me to bail out of this thread, it's getting too depressing.
 
KHarvey16 said:
One AstroLad is plenty.
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?

Ihnatko and Gruber pretty much came to the same conclusion on The Conversation as far as the prototype is concerned.

With regard to you and your moral ethics... blow me :lol
 
Gary Whitta said:
I have to bail out of this thread, it's getting too fucking depressing.
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How come? Pretty much all the regulars in this thread said they would return it. You always have Random Gaffers. I'd actually be happy to find a phone w/ info b/c I know how amazing it would be for the person to hear that someone found it. It's totally inconceivable to me the concept of goin hell yeah man gotta get mines now. But hey dsfdf.
 
Majik said:
?

Ihnatko and Gruber pretty much came to the same conclusion on The Conversation as far as the prototype is concerned.

With regard to you and your moral ethics... blow me :lol
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An inconsiderate asshole and proud of it...on the internet. I'm shocked.
 
Majik said:
I wouldn't attempt to return a phone I'd found. Somebody loses something and I find it - unless it's a passport or drivers license or something that would otherwise negatively affect somebody's life - it's mine. The law? Fuck it. You lose a consumable, it's your own fault and you'd do better to look after your stuff. I wouldn't expect somebody to return something I'd lost.
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A phone is not a consumable. People often treat them as such, but they most certainly aren't consumables. Losing a phone can negatively affect a person's life. In this particular case it could have easily cost the guy who lost it his career.
 
Majik said:
I wouldn't attempt to return a phone I'd found. Somebody loses something and I find it - unless it's a passport or drivers license or something that would otherwise negatively affect somebody's life - it's mine. The law? Fuck it. You lose a consumable, it's your own fault and you'd do better to look after your stuff. I wouldn't expect somebody to return something I'd lost.

This is a little different though because the phone was remotely killed, rendering it fairly useless. Obviously you know it's an iPhone, and even the most clueless muppet would easily figure out that it's different to other iPhones that are available. Little research would bring most people to the conclusion that it was a prototype. It has huge value, and could easily be sold... but I don't think I would. I would have documented it and returned it to Apple for a fee. Then I would have sent the photo's/video's to TUAW or Engadget or something.
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Child's play. I would have contacted Steve Jobs and set up diabolical traps and machinations that he would have to brave to solve my puzzle if he wanted to see his precious prototype again. "How far would you go to save your phone, Mr. Jobs?"
 
MikeOfTheLivingDead said:
A phone is not a consumable. People often treat them as such, but they most certainly aren't consumables. Losing a phone can negatively affect a person's life. In this particular case it could have easily cost the guy who lost it his career.
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Not by definition, but you get the point. As I said, in the case of the prototype I would have returned it to Apple, for a fee.
 
Majik said:
?

Ihnatko and Gruber pretty much came to the same conclusion on The Conversation as far as the prototype is concerned.

With regard to you and your moral ethics... blow me :lol
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What? No they didn’t. They both said they would have reported it to the establishment or police.

You’re talking about the “finder’s fee” that they commented on. That bit was about them saying it would have been smarter of the thief to do that rather than auctioning it off to Gizmodo.
 
AstroLad said:
How come? Pretty much all the regulars in this thread said they would return it. You always have Random Gaffers. I'd actually be happy to find a phone w/ info b/c I know how amazing it would be for the person to hear that someone found it. It's totally inconceivable to me the concept of goin hell yeah man gotta get mines now. But hey dsfdf.
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My commentary on the stupidity of the parties involved notwithstanding, this is what I would do. Returning something lost in order that someone be alleviated of the anxiety, worry, and stress concerning their property is reward enough. Even if somewhat unrealistically, I would hope for the same consideration from others.

I'd rather be called a sap than literally be a thief.
 
Hellsing321 said:
Child's play. I would have contacted Steve Jobs and set up diabolical traps and machinations that he would have to brave to solve my puzzle if he wanted to see his precious prototype again. "How far would you go to save your phone, Mr. Jobs?"
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Ah, a man who gets it. And right after making that call, a ninja swiftly disembowels you and takes the phone back.

I like your sense of humor in that post.
 
Hey guys, I take advantage of innocent mistakes by taking people's personal property when they lose it and making no attempt to return it to them. I realize they'll have to deal with their provider, get a new phone and in most cases completely rebuild their contact list...hey I might even severely disrupt their life depending on the person, but why should I give a shit about that? New phone for me!

Aren't I fucking cool? The other kids at my middle school are afraid of me when I make my bad ass face, you should totally see it. Just don't accidentally drop your phone in terror lolz
 
Gary Whitta said:
Fucking hell. It makes me sad to think there are people like this out there. Don't parents raise their kids right any more?
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Raise their kids right :lol

When have we ever raised them right? What does that even mean.

The truth is your parents, peers and the world at large provide the (shoddy) tools for you to act like a human being in the critical moments of your life, when we are asked to do the the "right" thing, but ultimately the choice is always your own. Especially when nobody is watching.

It's not all bad. Sometimes a rare individual will show us the way. Remember the case of student / cab driver, saddled with educational loans, who found $21,000 in his cab? He returned to it's owner and promptly refused a reward.

Here's hoping he finds my iphone...

http://www.sodahead.com/living/new-...00-would-you-refuse-a-reward/question-820499/
 
giga said:
What? No they didn’t. They both said they would have reported it to the establishment or police.

You’re talking about the “finder’s fee” that they commented on. That bit was about them saying it would have been smarter of the thief to do that rather than auctioning it off to Gizmodo.
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Listen to it again. He says "not completely legal but offers enough cover on both sides to at least make it a plausible thing".
 
Majik said:
Listen to it again. He says "not completely legal but offers enough cover on both sides to at least make it a plausible thing".
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I’m not sure what we’re discussing here, perhaps you can clarify what you meant by “came to the same conclusion”?

If you’re talking about the finders fee, then yes, there is a bit of a leeway there but I’m talking reporting lost goods to the bar owner or police.
 
KHarvey16 said:
Hey guys, I take advantage of innocent mistakes by taking people's personal property when they lose it and making no attempt to return it to them. I realize they'll have to deal with their provider, get a new phone and in most cases completely rebuild their contact list...hey I might even severely disrupt their life depending on the person, but why should I give a shit about that? New phone for me!
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Seriously? It's a phone.

Also, if they don't have some sort of insurance... whoops!
 
giga said:
I’m not sure what we’re discussing here, perhaps you can clarify what you meant by “came to the same conclusion”?

If you’re talking about the finders fee, then yes, there is a bit of a leeway there but I’m talking reporting lost goods to the bar owner or police.
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I wouldn't give it to the owner of the bar. In the knowledge that it's a prototype iPhone I would return it to Apple... as I said.
 
Majik said:
Seriously? It's a phone.

Also, if they don't have some sort of insurance... whoops!
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I understand why this could be hard for someone of your age to comprehend, but one day when you grow up you'll understand and then realize what a giant douchebag you were being.
 
Majik said:
I wouldn't give it to the owner of the bar. In the knowledge that it's a prototype iPhone I would return it to Apple... as I said.
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That’s assuming a regular person would have that knowledge. Chance that person would know it was a prototype = very slim.
 
KHarvey16 said:
I understand why this could be hard for someone of your age to comprehend, but one day when you grow up you'll understand and then realize what a giant douchebag you were being.
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There's an excellent chance he may never "grow up". Happens all the time....He's a regular Peter Pan.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Hail to the KING baby

I am appalled, and yet not surprised, at the rampant lack of morals or integrity found by a lot of posters here. Perhaps I am too high on my horse, or I have higher personal standards that I would want to get the item back to its rightful owner. And people wonder what is wrong with a large segment of society.
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i'd return it, or at least leave it with the bartender, not out of morals, but because i'd be worried of my mom finding out. at 24 I shiver at the thought of my mom smacking the shit out of me for taking something that wasn't mine.
 
Pimpwerx said:
Most people find an iPhone and keep it. As someone who had his 3G phone lost/stolen, I can attest to this. My ex and I also found a 2G at Subway years ago, and kept it. So it's just the universe balancing itself out. Phones are damn important. It's not something you leae lying around, much like cash, credit cards and ids. OTOH, I return lost ids. They have no value to me, so no point in swiping one of those. PEACE.
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Douche.
 
KHarvey16 said:
I understand why this could be hard for someone of your age to comprehend, but one day when you grow up you'll understand and then realize what a giant douchebag you were being.
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I don't follow. At what age do you develop moral values similar to yours?
 
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