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Gizmodo gets its hands on the new iPhone prototype

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Majik said:
I don't follow. At what age do you develop moral values similar to yours?
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A very young age. Some less impressive examples of the human race go through a rebellious period near puberty though, so don't worry, you aren't alone!
 
If its true some dude really "found" the prototype iphone in a bar, he had no original intentions on returning it to the owner and was going to keep it until he found out it was different. Anyone who has intentions on returning the phone wouldve returned to the bartender or whomever working there, or found another number to contact the owner or use Facebook. That is if the bar story is true...
 
Majik said:
I wouldn't attempt to return a phone I'd found. Somebody loses something and I find it - unless it's a passport or drivers license or something that would otherwise negatively affect somebody's life - it's mine. The law? Fuck it. You lose a consumable, it's your own fault and you'd do better to look after your stuff. I wouldn't expect somebody to return something I'd lost.
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What an asshole.
 
It's one thing if you go to the bathroom and find a $100 bill on the floor. May as well keep it; return it to anyone working at the establishment and there's a good chance they'll pocket it. It's another if you find a phone or wallet or something else which can easily be returned and generally without the assistance of others. i've found both and returned them to their owners. (The wallet had ~$100, a SS card, a several credit/debit cards, which i used to return the wallet.)

i'm glad i keep a passcode on a my phone and barring that, can remotely lock and kill it.
 
Gruber puts out a story:

http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/gizmodo_prototype_iphone

A tidbit:
According to Gizmodo, one of the barcodes attached to the unit read “N90_DVT_GE4X_0493”. According to several sources (of mine) familiar with the project, “N90” is Apple’s codename for the fourth-generation GSM iPhone, slated for release this June or July. “DVT” stands for “design verification test”, a Apple production milestone. The DVT milestone is very late in the game; based on this, I now believe that this unit very closely, if not exactly, resembles what Apple plans to release.
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I don't usually like Lufthansa, but this is awesome

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20003219-501465.html
 
That is fantastic. :lol

I hope he takes them up on that offer, assuming there's no fine print that he has to end up taking pictures for some internet ad campaign to be plastered everywhere.
 
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20003308-37.html said:
Apple has spoken to local police about the incident and the investigation is believed to be headed by a computer crime task force led by the Santa Clara County district attorney's office, the source said. Apple's Cupertino headquarters is in Santa Clara County, about 40 miles south of San Francisco.
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Shit is going down!
 
Pimpwerx said:
Most people find an iPhone and keep it. As someone who had his 3G phone lost/stolen, I can attest to this. My ex and I also found a 2G at Subway years ago, and kept it. So it's just the universe balancing itself out. Phones are damn important. It's not something you leae lying around, much like cash, credit cards and ids. OTOH, I return lost ids. They have no value to me, so no point in swiping one of those. PEACE.
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Wow.

I wouldn't go spreading that story around, dude. That's some really bad karma.
 
Majik said:
I wouldn't attempt to return a phone I'd found. Somebody loses something and I find it - unless it's a passport or drivers license or something that would otherwise negatively affect somebody's life - it's mine. The law? Fuck it. You lose a consumable, it's your own fault and you'd do better to look after your stuff. I wouldn't expect somebody to return something I'd lost.
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Well, fuck you.
 
Majik said:
I wouldn't attempt to return a phone I'd found. Somebody loses something and I find it - unless it's a passport or drivers license or something that would otherwise negatively affect somebody's life - it's mine. The law? Fuck it. You lose a consumable, it's your own fault and you'd do better to look after your stuff. I wouldn't expect somebody to return something I'd lost.
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You know. I'm really glad I'm not like you. Honestly. I wouldn't even think twice about returning something and would totally expect someone to return something to me.

I'm really sorry that you view life this way. It's these small things that make up the sum of our lives. If this is how you conduct yourself...you are simply a shitty person.
 
gohepcat said:
You know. I'm really glad I'm not like you. Honestly. I wouldn't even think twice about returning something and would totally expect someone to return something to me.

I'm really sorry that you view life this way. It's these small things that make up the sum of our lives. If this is how you conduct yourself...you are simply a shitty person.
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Shifty? No. Asshole? Sure.

I wouldn't steal, but if by chance I happened accross an MP3 player or phone in the street - yeah, the likelyhood is that I would keep it. I have insurance for my phone, so if I ever misplaced it, it would be replaced and I'd get on with my life. I wouldn't be cursing the lucky bastard that found it and didn't call me :lol

It's never happened though, so maybe I'd have a change of heart in the event that it did. Who knows. I just don't see the big deal.

You lose your phone, you call your operator and get it barred then claim on the insurance and get a replacement handset. Then out of the blue somebody contacts you and tells you they've found your phone and would like to return it to you. What are you going to do, return the replacement handset?
 
Majik said:
Shifty? No. Asshole? Sure.

I wouldn't steal, but if by chance I happened accross an MP3 player or phone in the street - yeah, the likelyhood is that I would keep it. I have insurance for my phone, so if I ever misplaced it, it would be replaced and I'd get on with my life. I wouldn't be cursing the lucky bastard that found it and didn't call me :lol

It's never happened though, so maybe I'd have a change of heart in the event that it did. Who knows. I just don't see the big deal.

You lose your phone, you call your operator and get it barred then claim on the insurance and get a replacement handset. Then out of the blue somebody contacts you and tells you they've found your phone and would like to return it to you. What are you going to do, return the replacement handset?
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What about people without insurance?
 
rezuth said:
What about people without insurance?
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That would be unfortunate.

The deductible for a claim on household contents insurance would likely exceed the price of the phone too so would be pointless.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Why doesn't Majik have a derogatory tag yet?
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Bitch please... I simply have a different point of view on the subject. I've also said that it's never actually happened, and if it did there's always the possibility that I'd have a change of heart. There are no absolute ethical values, and they're generally not even transferable cross-society.
 
Majik said:
Bitch please... I simply have a different point of view on the subject. I've also said that it's never actually happened, and if it did there's always the possibility that I'd have a change of heart. There are no absolute ethical values, and they're generally not even transferable cross-society.
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So if you found a Chinese iPhone it would be differrent? Good times.
 
Jasoco said:
He said shitty. Not shifty. You are a shitty person.
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So he did :lol

It's all relative though. I think that if I had this same conversation with a group of people somewhere like Somalia it'd be a little different. I'm curious though as to how many of the "superior" values displayed in this thread stem from religion!?
 
My uncle found a very expensive phone about a year ago. He needed a cellphone and wanted to keep it. I'll be honest, the fact that it was such an expensive phone made me push him to return it. He found the owner and gave it to him. He wasn't too pleased though, as he got a replacement, because some "irreplaceable" photographs on the phone were deleted (by my uncle as he tried to make it his when he found it). When he came back I got a good ear full as the owner apparently didn't care for that phone anymore, although he took it back.
 
bytesized said:
Majik has to be tag fishing for sure, hope there's not many people that think like that.
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I don't think he is. But I like that the more people that go after him, the more he seems to refine his statement to "I am only a soulless thieving dick in certain situations. Not all the time like I said before."
 
Majik said:
So he did :lol

It's all relative though. I think that if I had this same conversation with a group of people somewhere like Somalia it'd be a little different. I'm curious though as to how many of the "superior" values displayed in this thread stem from religion!?
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What does religion have to do with this? :lol

I'm an atheist, and I would always give the phone back. I've found a lost iPhone before and went out of my way to give it back.
 
Majik said:
So he did :lol

It's all relative though. I think that if I had this same conversation with a group of people somewhere like Somalia it'd be a little different. I'm curious though as to how many of the "superior" values displayed in this thread stem from religion!?
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Maybe they just stem from you being a piece of shit who doesn't mind stealing from others and taking things which don't belong to you, committing a crime in more or less any developed nation?
 
Majik said:
So he did :lol

It's all relative though. I think that if I had this same conversation with a group of people somewhere like Somalia it'd be a little different. I'm curious though as to how many of the "superior" values displayed in this thread stem from religion!?
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I'm a staunch atheist and I think you're a scumbag. Your theory is disproven.
 
bytesized said:
Majik has to be tag fishing for sure, hope there's not many people that think like that.
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Honestly I would keep it too. Its like finding $600. I wouldnt anyone to give my phone back if I lost it. I wouldnt steal a phone from a person off them, but if your irresponsible then thats your problem, not mine.

Whats the difference between finding this phone and finding money? Would consider that stealing as it was probably someone elses at one time?
 
Seth C said:
Maybe they just stem from you being a piece of shit who doesn't mind stealing from others and taking things which don't belong to you, committing a crime in more or less any developed nation?
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Or maybe I realise that ethics are relative, situational, autonomous, subjective, and utilitarian.
 
alternade said:
Honestly I would keep it too. Its like finding $600. I wouldnt anyone to give my phone back if I lost it. I wouldnt steal a phone from a person off them, but if your irresponsible then thats your problem, not mine.

Whats the difference between finding this phone and finding money? Would consider that stealing as it was probably someone elses at one time?
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This.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Another serious atheist who thinks you're a piece of shit. If you have to pull out the religion card, you're going much too far just to justify your shittiness.
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I'm not. I said I was curious.
 
Majik said:
Or maybe I realise that ethics are relative, situational, autonomous, subjective, and utilitarian.
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So in a couple of posts you go from telling us how we'd think different in Somalia, implying it's a different situation where we'd behave more ruthlessly, to saying this is relative and situational, which completely goes against that. What the hell is relative and situational about being a dick everywhere?
 
alternade said:
Whats the difference between finding this phone and finding money? Would consider that stealing as it was probably someone elses at one time?
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I'd do what I could to return money, but obviously your options are limited there. If I didn't see someone drop it or know for a fact who it belonged to you really can't do anything. A phone, if you haven't noticed, contains information directly and easily applicable to finding the owner. Equating the two is lazy.

These attempts to rationalize this kind of thinking are absolutely pathetic. And you can add me to that list of atheists.
 
KHarvey16 said:
I'd do what I could to return money, but obviously your options are limited there. If I didn't see someone drop it or know for a fact who it belonged to you really can't do anything. A phone, if you haven't noticed, contains information directly and easily applicable to finding the owner. Equating the two is lazy.
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I'm going to assume that by this you're saying that if you found $600 cash somewhere you'd simply hand it over to the police and not that you would keep it because you yourself would find it tricky to return to the person who lost it.

Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
So in a couple of posts you go from telling us how we'd think different in Somalia, implying it's a different situation where we'd behave more ruthlessly, to saying this is relative and situational, which completely goes against that. What the hell is relative and situational about being a dick everywhere?
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A Somalian in Somalia, not me in Somalia.

Or somebody in Harlem maybe?
 
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