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Gizmodo gets its hands on the new iPhone prototype

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All Apple has to do is say they were upset by the way they treated their employee and any move to ban Gizmodo will get them positive press, not controversy.
 
Joe said:
I fail to see how finding something = stealing. Unless it was blatantly and literally stolen?
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Finding the phone is not stealing. It becomes theft when the property goes up for sale.
 
Byakuya769 said:
There has to be some sort of retributive action. Otherwise, a bad precedent is being established - steal from apple employees, and get paid by tech blogs to do it.
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The lack of a cease and desist or comment from Apple is a bit perplexing. However, I wouldn't be surprised if in the next few days some sort of legal action or suit against Gizmodo/Gawker surfaced. Not saying I'm predicting anything, it just wouldn't be unexpected.
 
KHarvey16 said:
All Apple has to do is say they were upset by the way they treated their employee and any move to ban Gizmodo will get them positive press, not controversy.
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as long as apple doesn't fire that employee...
 
LCfiner said:
California law says different than you.

finder has 90 days to hang on to something and make reasonable effort to find owner. the guy who got this iPhone sold it within 2 weeks.
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i see, well if that's the law then that's the law.
 
Joe said:
is that true? is that really how the law works or is that just your interpretation of it?
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Yep. In California. Also, person identified the contents as corporate secrets, which have even more protection than random shit in California.
 
Majik said:
HTC was the OEM for Google's Nexus One, but since it was Google's phone - that ones a given. I can also understand the Droid to seeing as it was the first device to ship with 2.0. Dev Phone's One and Two are also a given, but why would Google be trialing the EVO? It'll ship with 2.1 and isn't a Google branded phone.
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Beats me. I don't know if they have an EVO, or just the next generation Google Experience phone after that. But I bet they have a new phone. My friend works in their sales department, and even he gets to beta hardware. For whatever reason they get them early, and if you knew someone in Google, I bet they could confirm this for you. PEACE.
 
Byakuya769 said:
as long as apple doesn't fire that employee...
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Even if they do they'd avoid controversy. To be honest I can't think of much Apple could do to cause controversy at this point, most people aren't in Giz's corner in this, even if that means they're just neutral.
 
Tobor said:
Finding the phone is not stealing. It becomes theft when the property goes up for sale.
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You don't even have to attempt to sell the property; many places consider it theft if you don't make an honest effort to find the owner and, failing that, turn it over to the police.
 
I'm not sure how a gadget site benefits from getting blacklisted by one of the largest tech expos and one of the most popular gadget manufacturers on the planet...perhaps they've got some brilliant marketing strategy that is just escaping me at the moment.
 
KHarvey16 said:
Even if they do they'd avoid controversy. To be honest I can't think of much Apple could do to cause controversy at this point, most people aren't in Giz's corner in this, even if that means they're just neutral.
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Giz has no one to blame but themselves either. I think a lot of people were on-board with the scoop, but to burn a guy who made an honest mistake is a low-blow. Now I think most of us hope they get what's coming to them. So stupid too, because they already made a megascoop for super-cheap. With the traffic they generated, they got their money's worth and much more. But then they went and started amateur hour. :( PEACE.
 
i cannot express my love for that back enough. it looks so slick. never really liked the look of the 3g plastic back, this thing just looks awesome

not a huge fan of the silver sandwiched in the middle though. looks like a typical candybar phone or an ice cream sandwich.
 
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Tiny.
 
the miniaturization job from the 3GS to this is pretty incredible. the motherboard is only 30% the size.

pretty impressive how quickly the chips shrunk.
 
LCfiner said:
the miniaturization job from the 3GS to this is pretty incredible. the motherboard is only 30% the size.

pretty impressive how quickly the chips shrunk.
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Is there a comparison?

I hate how Gizmodo seems to have posts saved up to trickle out info, after they've already given the device back to Apple. CBS did the same thing by trickling out the Katie Couric and Sarah Palin interview.
 
numble said:
Is there a comparison?

I hate how Gizmodo seems to have posts saved up to trickle out info, after they've already given the device back to Apple. CBS did the same thing by trickling out the Katie Couric and Sarah Palin interview.
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numble said:
Is there a comparison?

I hate how Gizmodo seems to have posts saved up to trickle out info, after they've already given the device back to Apple. CBS did the same thing by trickling out the Katie Couric and Sarah Palin interview.
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go to ifixit to see the 3gs teardown. you can see the logic board. it’s the width and nearly the length of the casing.

this one fits only on the side of the machine.
 
Hellsing321 said:
Does anyone know how big the A4 chip is? Could it fit on a logic board that small?
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Gonna go ahead and say no, judging from the iPad teardown. Probably some other AX custom variant.
 
Hellsing321 said:
Does anyone know how big the A4 chip is? Could it fit on a logic board that small?
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A4 is pretty big. they’re not using the iPad A4 for this phone.

of course, the A4 is likely just an upclocked Cortex A8, which is already used in the 3GS.
 
StopMakingSense said:
They could only get it to the Connect to iTunes icon. Bet you they forgot to grab pics of it before they broke it tearing it apart.
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Actually, it's possible that those pics are coming in tomorrow's update, if they're planning on continuing the steady leaks.

Wonder what the chip is. Way too small to be the A4 as mentioned above. Could it simply be a smaller 3GS chipset? If it is, hopefully it's clocked higher; otherwise Snapdragon will make it look really dated.
 
Did they remove the articles that mentioned the guy who lost it's name? I can't find them anymore.

Also, for all this legal speculation, check Apple v. Gizmodo in the Leak of the Supersecret iPhone from a well known legal blog.

We reached out to tech lawyer and Santa Clara law professor Eric Goldman for comment. He told us:

If the prototype truly was left on the barroom floor as an accident, then the law gets murkier. The person who found the prototype is in a legally ambiguous situation. For example, courts are split on whether trade secrets accidentally left in public are still protectable. Many courts basically chastise the putative trade secret owner for being so sloppy with their allegedly valuable assets; but some courts will have sympathy for an honest mistake, especially when the finder knows (or really ought to know) that the found items are probably someone’s valuable trade secrets.

However, Gizmodo is probably not in any real danger itself. It can claim that it was a bona fide purchaser of the chattel (although I wonder if this is really plausible), and its status as a publisher should help insulate it from any trade secret claims. More importantly, at this point, what’s done is done; the information is out, and Apple can’t put the information back behind a secrecy veil.
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instead of posting the opinion of actual lawyers, i'd rather become elucidated by the legal scholars within GAF
 
Pimpwerx said:
Beats me. I don't know if they have an EVO, or just the next generation Google Experience phone after that. But I bet they have a new phone. My friend works in their sales department, and even he gets to beta hardware. For whatever reason they get them early, and if you knew someone in Google, I bet they could confirm this for you. PEACE.
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Google has said at least twice that they have a giant room with almost all the Android phones ever made or being made, not counting the KIRF's from China/Korea or whatever.
 
AstroLad said:
See? Taking my lead. Chickens coming home to roost and all that.
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...but it's an asinine argument. Even a gimmick poster like you knows this, Astro.

If they are doing all this to "teach Apple a lesson" then how the hell do they explain most of their focus and victory laps centered around this poor individual employee who made an unfortunate mistake? It's clearly bullshit.
 
Pristine_Condition said:
...but it's an asinine argument. Even a gimmick poster like you knows this, Astro.

If they are doing all this to "teach Apple a lesson" then how the hell do they explain most of their focus and victory laps centered around this poor individual employee who made an unfortunate mistake? It's clearly bullshit.
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So any positions outside of the mainstream in this thread are "gimmicks"? Now I've literally heard it all....

I made the argument, Gizmodo made the argument, and I'm sure many other people looking at this situation through a reasonable lens made the observation. Call it what you will, but don't try to marginalize it.
 
scorcho said:
instead of posting the opinion of actual lawyers, i'd rather become elucidated by the legal scholars within GAF
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Some people here are lawyers, heck some joke posters here are probably better trained lawyers then the ones in these links.
Dreams-Visions said:
damn.

Giz lawyers > Engadget lawyers :lol
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The Above the Law contact basically says things are murky, and wonders if Gizmodo's defense is even plausible. Read more and the further discussion about the UTSA, if you're really interested in the legal side of things.
 
AstroLad said:
So any positions outside of the mainstream in this thread are "gimmicks"?
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No...your gimmick is a gimmick. You've obviously embraced it. Most of the regulars on GAF have embraced it. I like the gimmick, and think as a poster you are an asset to GAF. It's amusing.

I explained why Gizmodo's position is bullshit rather clearly.
 
numble said:
The Above the Law contact basically says things are murky, and wonders if Gizmodo's defense is even plausible. Read more and the further discussion about the UTSA, if you're really interested in the legal side of things.
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I see.

No, I'm not that invested. I'll just watch from the sidelines. If Giz gets sued, then I'll be more interested. but thank you for the insight.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
I see.

No, I'm not that invested. I'll just watch from the sidelines. If Giz gets sued, then I'll be more interested. but thank you for the insight.
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Ok. FWIW, I don't think there will be legal action. But who knows, Apple has shut down websites based on trade secret laws before for leaking something as small as iWorks. I think Gawker has better lawyers than something like Think Secret, more money to pay if a settlement is needed, and they are actually good at making any publicity good publicity (making a big deal about Scientology lawyers suing them, etc.).
 
I really hope that the larger battery and shrunken parts leads to much better battery life. I would love it if this thing could last 10-12h of mixed use. That'd be killer.

I really dig the design minus the seams, it's thinner and looks more like a premium product. 3GS looks plasticky and cheap in comparison. This is much closer to the first gen iPhone in style (which is still the best looking iPhone IMO).

I also hope they they throw more ram in this thing so that when I've got multiple tabs open this thing doesn't constantly refresh them when switching between them. After hearing that the first gen iPad has some wifi issues and still can't cache multiple webpages and keep them in memory, I'm going to wait till the 2nd gen product. I really hope that Apple has resolved this for the new iPhone.
 
numble said:
Ok. FWIW, I don't think there will be legal action. But who knows, Apple has shut down websites based on trade secret laws before for leaking something as small as iWorks. I think Gawker has better lawyers than something like Think Secret, more money to pay if a settlement is needed, and they are actually good at making any publicity good publicity (making a big deal about Scientology lawyers suing them, etc.).
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I know Apple's boys are trying their damndest.

in fact, I'd be shocked if they didn't litigate just to do it. make Gawker spend up all the money they just got for running the story. just because.

MercuryLS said:
I really hope that the larger battery and shrunken parts leads to much better battery life. I would love it if this thing could last 10-12h of mixed use. That'd be killer.

I really dig the design minus the seams, it's thinner and looks more like a premium product. 3GS looks plasticky and cheap in comparison. This is much closer to the first gen iPhone in style (which is still the best looking iPhone IMO).

I also hope they they throw more ram in this thing so that when I've got multiple tabs open this thing doesn't constantly refresh them when switching between them. After hearing that the first gen iPad has some wifi issues and still can't cache multiple webpages and keep them in memory, I'm going to wait till the 2nd gen product. I really hope that Apple has resolved this for the new iPhone.
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better battery life is a guarantee. why? the front-facing camera. apple built a device that will clearly feature videochat. they have to be able to harness enough battery life to power that iChat for at least a few hours. that being such a power-hungry feature should mean without using it, the iPhone should get significantly better battery life.
 
I guess there's been no official statement from apple other than that letter to gizmodo?

I can't wait for other newssites to find out the identity of the thief, that'd be popcorn-worthy.
 
AstroLad said:
So any positions outside of the mainstream in this thread are "gimmicks"? Now I've literally heard it all....

I made the argument, Gizmodo made the argument, and I'm sure many other people looking at this situation through a reasonable lens made the observation. Call it what you will, but don't try to marginalize it.
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Haters gonna hate
 
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