Godzilla II is a thing that will be happening. Gareth Edwards will not be making it.

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Some of the best Showa films have great human plots that could be reworked to work without kaiju. Invasion of the Astro-Monsters (which was actually a coproduction with a US studio) and Destroy All Monsters are two such ones.

2014's human plot wasn't the best, but it was still better than most of the Japanese Godzilla films.

Indeed. The human drama was a bit weak, but was still better than a lot of Godzilla movies. 2014 was no Godzilla's Revenge for sure lol.

I just wish they would have sold Godzilla as the Showa film that it is. I don't know why they hid that fact. A lot of people dig Godzilla as a guardian monster, and I also could have gotten behind that. The awesome tone of the trailers just leave a sour taste in my mouth now. I wanted the unstoppable force of nature Godzilla from 1985 so badly.
 
Edwards wanted to keep the Showa-esque nature of the film a secret if I remember correctly.

I don't know about that. They wouldn't have needed to make a bunch of fake movie scenes to keep something like that a secret. It just seems like a really bizarre way of selling the movie as something it wasn't. Cutting scenes from movie trailers isn't uncommon, but Godzilla 2014 had entire CGI scenes that were totally replaced. That has to be the most effort put into bait-and-switch trailers I've ever seen; not even the trailers for Hercules put that much effort into it, and those were just as misleading, if not more so.

And he did a damn good job at it too. That scene with Godzilla swimming in formation with the US Navy was worth it alone.

Meh, I don't think it made up for the only interesting character getting killed off.

I've always liked the version of Godzilla where he is the defender of the Earth better. Not the overly human friendly version from some of the worse Showa films, but the version that doesn't go out of his way to destroy humanity.

I'm fine with that kind of Godzilla, but they didn't have to do mislead the audience. If they wanted to sell a Showa film, they could have done it.

Man, none of you nerds deserve Godzilla 2014.

You're right. We deserved the movie that was advertised, not the one we got. And while I would prefer what we got to no Godzilla at all, I would say the same about '92.

I wouldn't mind the fight-interrupting cuts so much if the human characters were any good. Bryan Cranston and Juliette Binoche were the only characters that held my interest, and they got killed off early on. I hoped Ken Watanabe's character would have been given more to do, but he was quickly pigeonholed into a stereotypical role of the wise Asian guy that doesn't do anything. Godzilla 2014 might have had a bit of down time between the explosions and monster fights, but it was a typical, forgettable Hollywood action flick in more ways than one.
 
the only thing i'll miss is his sense of scale in the film. it seems he sort of brought that to star wars too with rogue one. a death star has never looked as massive and menacing as it did in that trailer.

godzilla sucked though aside from some of the stuff with cranston and the skydiving sequence. second one better be a huge improvement. and ditch the leads. those characters won't be missed by anyone.
 
I wish they let me make a Godzilla movie

I'd nail that shit, not even joking

You need to love weird animals to make a movie about weird animals, this is one major key component of making a monster movie
 
I'm not sure it's a big loss. He created some stunning visuals and one truly memorable moment, but he also made the most boring Godzilla movie ever.

1) I'm pretty sure you got the wrong link there, as that is most decidedly not the Breath Fatality.

2) Godzilla's Revenge is by far the most boring(and worst) Godzilla movie ever. A film made up of clips and a BS story featuring Minya and an annoying child, that was quite literally made only to sell toys.
 
Also, Godzilla 2014 had more Godzilla screen time than 9 of the other 29 movies. I was honestly surprised to see vs. MechaGodzilla and Ghidorah so low since those are kind of my favorites. It also beats out the original 1955 movie by a full minute;



Also, you see Godzilla in the 2014 movie for 9 minutes and 56 seconds. For comparison, here's the screen time for other movie monsters;

The Blob (1958): 1 minute, 26 seconds
Jaws (1975): 4 minutes
Alien (1978): 3 minutes, 36 seconds
Cloverfield (2008): 3 minutes, 26 seconds

With the exception of the Blob, none of those monsters have a full body shot in the first hour (Blob clocks in at 21:47). Cloverfield's director put it best; “there’s nothing more terrifying than the dread, the anticipation of seeing something.”

The problem with Godzilla 2014 isn't a lack of monster; it's lack of good human. They bump off Bryan Cranston way too early, Strathairn only interjects "military stuff" when Watanabe isn't dropping pseudo-philosophical gibberish, and Aaron Taylor-Johnson has all the charm and emotion of a wet gym sock. There's a lot wrong with Godzilla'14, but laying it solely at the feet of "not enough monster!" isn't it.
Honestly, the amount of Godzilla isn't the issue.

It's the way Edwards went about hiding him. There came a point where it was no longer about building suspense and dread, but rather blue balling the audience. The way he'd reveal the monster, only to pull a "gotcha" on the audience by then switching to a TV screen, or something similar, as if it was some comedy, was utterly terrible, and only served to upset audiences.

You don't unveil the monster and then try to pretend you didn't and try to hide him again.
 
Sad but not too big of a deal. He is a good director but as long as they get someone just as good who sticks to the original formula, it'll be fine.
 
Honestly, the amount of Godzilla isn't the issue.

It's the way Edwards went about hiding him. There came a point where it was no longer about building suspense and dread, but rather blue balling the audience. The way he'd reveal the monster, only to pull a "gotcha" on the audience by then switching to a TV screen, or something similar, as if it was some comedy, was utterly terrible, and only served to upset audience.

You don't unveil the monster and then try to pretend you didn't and try to hide him again.
Nailed it
 
Honestly, the amount of Godzilla isn't the issue.

It's the way Edwards went about hiding him. There came a point where it was no longer about building suspense and dread, but rather blue balling the audience. The way he'd reveal the monster, only to pull a "gotcha" on the audience by then switching to a TV screen, or something similar, as if it was some comedy, was utterly terrible, and only served to upset audiences.

You don't unveil the monster and then try to pretend you didn't and try to hide him again.

And that was his very intention to do so, Gareth literally laughs that he did that in the special features of the blu ray. He's smiling about it because he knew that would piss off the audience. The fight at the end was great though.
 
WOW. This feels like a real megaton given that Legendary supposedly signed Edwards to an iron clad three picture deal to direct the whole Godzilla trilogy. I believe Tull even went as far as to describe Edwards as the "next Chris Nolan".

I assume that Legendary will now expect Edwards to do another film on their slate, either that or Edwards has used his new heat coming off of Rogue One to bag himself another big project.

If so it feels a little ungrateful of Edwards given that Tull gave him the Godzilla gig off of the mirco budget Monsters. That's some filmography!
 
I believe Tull even went as far as to describe Edwards as the "next Chris Nolan".
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Something must have happened. Edwards was very enthustaic every time he talked about the sequals. Hopefully his Star Wars has got nothing to with it. Maybe Disney were not happy with the final product and had to get help? Rumours travels fast in Hollywood so legendary must have got cold feet seeing the mixed reception of the first one.
 
It was bound to happen. They want to use the property, I'm sure, and I wouldn't be surprised if whatever company owns it would lose it if they didn't put out another film. The first was fine, not really good and not really bad, so why not pick up where they left off?
 
I was always a little surprised they stuck with him this long considering Godzilla had almost historically bad legs.

This is the same studio that just tripled down with Snyder after BvS cratered in its 2nd weekend, you shouldn't be surprised.

I don't hate Godzilla '14 but I agree with most of the criticisms. That and Aaron Taylor-Johnson is nowhere near charismatic enough to carry the film after Cranston gets killed.
 
Garth Edwards not making it is good news to me. Liked the tone he set for the first movie, but was against more than one decision there. Though maybe my complaints are more here's towards the script.
 
I was always a little surprised they stuck with him this long considering Godzilla had almost historically bad legs.

To be fair it was sandwiched between X-Men DOFP and Amazing Spiderman 2. It was really bad scheduling on their part and the fact the audience wasn't too hot on Godzilla being hidden.

That could easily be averted in the sequel.
 
No Gareth Edwards, but moving Godzilla vs. King Kong up instead.

They are really trying to kill the new Godzilla franchise. Then again it's WB, they are literally trying to kill everything that might make them money, just look at the mess they are making out of the DCCU.

I guess it's a good thing that Toho is dusting OG JP Godzilla off this year.
 
Sorry to bump the thread a little bit but the Rogue One stuff made me look to see if this news had made it to GAF. I liked Edwards' Godzilla movie but I'm honestly glad he's not making the sequel. From what I remember reading, it sounded like Edwards wanted to stick with the cocktease show the monster-cut away style with the sequel, which would have been a massively bad idea.
 
Godzillas a bore. I liked the original monster. Which I wish they would do again, but I heard they want King Ghidoran or something, which is a shame. I mean, bring back Mothra, but I don't wanna see the old villians again.
 
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