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Kleegamefan said:
Yeah, that is the new N800 series.....

I just have the regular Nautilus speakers (they are a couple of years old)...so no fancy diamond tweeters for me :(


I am not a fan of horns either.....if I were to go with something bright, I would prefer a nice set of Martin Logan Electrostatics instead....

OK.....I need to stop now :lol
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Pretty much the same thing though ! The tweets dont make all that much difference, the imaging seems a little better and maybe bass response (crispness) but your speakers are godly.
 
pxleyes said:
I dont care about how good your speakers are because that doesn't change the fact that Klipsch speakers are top quality.
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:lol

Where did i say they arent top quality ?

Klipsch are harsh sounding american speakers, if you like harsh/clear speakers then by all means love klipsch.

Dont forget, you were the one who said "you need to stop blowing your ass out with bass and hear what the media is SUPPOSED to sound like". :lol
 
LOL, you think Klispch sound harsh? you need to stop blowing your ass out with bass and hear what the media is SUPPOSED to sound like.
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Horn speakers (Klispch included) *do* tend be more forward or"bright" compared to some other speakers out there...audiophiles who dont favor bright speakers are know to discribe them as harsh.....but that is no crime, believe me...

I don't think he is just talking about the computer speakers but the audiophile line of Klipch speakers, which are not for me...

I tend to prefer speakers that are "flat" or laid back...such as:

B&W

Paradigm Reference

Tannoy

Dynaudio

Sonus Farber

Thiel

Jean-Marie Reynaud

Vandersteen

Revel


These brands tend to be much more laid back than your average Klipch, Martin Logan, Polk, NHT or Magnepan speakers, which are more on the analytical side....

Notice that ALL these speakers are audiophile brands (yes, the bright ones too)


It is just a personal preference, IMO....it has nothing to do with the quality of klipch and everything to do with their sonic character :)
 
So if you already have a reciever and you're just looking for a full upgrade on your speaker + subwoofer set. What's a good recommendation if you're looking at $1000-$1500 for 6 speakers and 1 sub?
 
Kleegamefan said:
Horn speakers (Klispch included) *do* tend be more forward or"bright" compared to some other speakers out there...audiophiles who dont favor bright speakers are know to discribe them as harsh.....but that is no crime, believe me...

I don't think he is just talking about the computer speakers but the audiophile line of Klipch speakers, which are not for me...

I tend to prefer speakers that are "flat" or laid back...such as:

B&W

Paradigm Reference

Tannoy

Dynaudio

Sonus Farber

Thiel

Jean-Marie Reynaud

Vandersteen

Revel


These brands tend to be much more laid back than your average Klipch, Martin Logan, Polk, NHT or Magnepan speakers, which are more on the analytical side....

Notice that ALL these speakers are audiophile brands (yes, the bright ones too)


It is just a personal preference, IMO....it has nothing to do with the quality of klipch and everything to do with their sonic character :)
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Great post mate :)

Wharfedale, Dali and Duntech are three other "warm" sounding speakers. Its all preference as you said.
 
Bebpo said:
So if you already have a reciever and you're just looking for a full upgrade on your speaker + subwoofer set. What's a good recommendation if you're looking at $1000-$1500 for 6 speakers and 1 sub?
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Depends on what type of quality you are looking for ? Do you want cube style or full floor standers and bookshelves ?
 
Bebpo said:
So if you already have a reciever and you're just looking for a full upgrade on your speaker + subwoofer set. What's a good recommendation if you're looking at $1000-$1500 for 6 speakers and 1 sub?
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Here Ryudo, let me give it a go :)

Disclaimer: you might see Ryudo and I give you different reccomendations......this is nothing to fear, as it will just be our interpretation of what would be of value to you....there is no right or wrong...just suggestions to point you in the right direction.....sort of a "filter", if you will, to steer you away from the crap (i.e, Friends don't let friends buy BOSE) and give you a little sample of stuff we find of good value....it is not gospel....you must make the final decison yourself and ALWAY trust your *own* ears and formulate your *own* opinion...

ALRIGHTY THEN :D



HERE IS YOUR SUBWOOFER


For Mains, I would either get A PAIR OF THESE and ONE OF THESE and TWO PAIRS OF THESE which would be used for your surrounds (stereo) and your back surround channel (dual mono)

Naturally....you could also get ONE OF THESE and SIX OF THESE (again, configure your sixth back surround channel as dual monos)


But if you *really* want a killer setup (remember...that PS3 will play High-resolution Super Audio CDs and the next gen Blu-ray sound codecs like Dolby Digital Plus and dts-HD will have have higher quality audio too) I WOULDN'T HESITATE GETTING SIX OF THESE along with one of THESE



Of course, all of this is just IMO :)
 
Congrats on the setup Klee, must be very nice.

I want 802's so bad :/


I'm makin do with a pair of CDM 9 NTs up front, CDM 1NTs in the rear, and an HTM1 for center. Got Rotel electronics. Sounds quite nice, and all of my friends are blown away by it, but I want more!! MORE DAMMIT!

:lol
 
I've heard great things about ascend acoustics. I think that is where I'm going to get my speakers. For a medium sized room, what do you think of 4 CBM-170s with a 340 main and the STF2 sub? I'll probably add two more CBM 170s down the road when i go too 7.1.
 
Mrbob said:
I've heard great things about ascend acoustics. I think that is where I'm going to get my speakers. For a medium sized room, what do you think of 4 CBM-170s with a 340 main and the STF2 sub? I'll probably add two more CBM 170s down the road when i go too 7.1.
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If you click on these links in my original post, you will see my opinion:

Naturally....you could also get ONE OF THESE and SIX OF THESE (again, configure your sixth back surround channel as dual monos)
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If you put a gun to my head and asked me to chose one line of bang-for-the-buck speaker line, that would be the Rocket ELT speakers, for sure....


If you are going to get a reciever, get the Harmon Kardon AVR 435 for $560 (spend the extra 60 bucks...TRUST ME)

http://www.ezhotdeal.com/catalog/catalog.asp?i=1477

Here is a breakdown of the features:

7 amplified channels

Dolby Digital 5.1
dts 5.1
Dolby Digital EX
dts es 6.1 (matrix and discrete)
dts Neo:6
dts 96/24
DPL2x which can apply 7.1 processing to Dolby Digital and dts
Dolby Headphone
Virtual Dolby




Upsample 48Khz digital sources to 96Khz

Logic 7 processing that can be applied to discrete digital sources (ie Dolby Digital and dts)

Quadruple Crossover bass mgt.(L/R mains/Center/Surround/Surround back groups can have individual crossover settings in 10Hz increments)

And last, but not least:

The AVR 435 has a 32-bit DSP called the Texas Instruments DA610....it is the most powerful DSP used in recievers today....the only recievers that use it are the HK AVR 435, the step up 635 ($700) the Denon 4806 ($3500 MSRP) and the flagship Denon 5805 (a cool Six grand)...

Besides all having the TI DA610, these 4 recievers have something else in common.....amazing room correction/EQ abilites.....the Denons have the Audessey system and the HKs have something called EzSet/EQ

EzSet/EQ is an automated room equalization/system calibration system that measures the frequency response of your room(via a mic) and can apply a compensating equalization curve to flatten the frequency response of your room, cancel standing waves and more....

EzSet/EQ also uses pretty a advanced parametric equalization scheme...

Many/most reciever manufacturers these days have Parametric EQ/room correcting scheme but the Audessey (Denon) and Ezset/EQ (Harmon Kardon) are by far the best of the bunch....the fact all 4 products use the TI DA610 is probably a big reason they are so much better than the competition.....

Another thing I like about Harmon Kardon recievers is the fact they have *TWO* power supplies (not even the high-zoot Denons have dual PS)

Combined with the rich feature-set, low price and, of course, Logic7, the AVR 435s is pretty hard to beat at that price point, IMO...


http://ww1.onecall.com/PID_25469.htm#25469

This is a unique product at this price point:
 
Damn it. :lol I miss those text links from time to time because I don't know how to do them. What about the amp situation, though? I'm reading some good things aboutt he Pioneer 1015TX. Even though I'm partial to Yamaha, I think the Pioneer may be a better overall amp.
 
Cool, thanks. I'll have to look into that amp. I'm going to have to find it at a more reputable dealer though. EZhotdealz doesn't exactly strike me as a safe place to shop, no matter how good the price! :lol
 
Look no further than JandR, who, along with One Call, are probably the most reputable online A/V retailers on the web...

They have it for $584......worth every penny, IMO:

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4027285


BTW, don't pay attention to the watts rating on Harmon Kardon products...they are VERY conservative (more like truthful) with their ratings than all the others out there...
 
Kleegamefan said:
But if you *really* want a killer setup (remember...that PS3 will play High-resolution Super Audio CDs and the next gen Blu-ray sound codecs like Dolby Digital Plus and dts-HD will have have higher quality audio too) I WOULDN'T HESITATE GETTING SIX OF THESE along with one of THESE

Of course, all of this is just IMO :)
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Thanks for the recommendation. But ummm, 6 + 1 = 7 right? And that's not including the subwoofer correct? Isn't that an extra speaker?
 
Bebpo said:
Thanks for the recommendation. But ummm, 6 + 1 = 7 right? And that's not including the subwoofer correct? Isn't that an extra speaker?
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That is 100% correct....the reason 7 speakers+Sub should be used in a 6.1 system is because there is a psychoacoustic phenomenon that hinders the brain's ability to localize a center channel and rear surround channel when both channels are simultanously active....

The ideal viewing location is in line with the front center channel (middle of the TV) and if you only use a single 6th rear speaker, in line with the front center and you in between the two, there can be some instances where (when both front and rear center channels are active) the brain percieves a weird acoustic effect where front/rear center sound ping-pongs back and forth and the rear center channel sound seems like it is coming from the front center channel and vice versa....its very disconcerting if you experience it...


Moving the single rear center channel off center introduces other weird phase effects that fucks up the rear soundstage and isn't a proper solution either...

The solution that *works* is to use TWO back surround speakers in a dual mono configuration with placment about 2-3 ft apart....this introduces enough of a diffusion to eliminate the ping-pong effect, yet retains proper back surround acoustic localization....the best of both worlds :)

Again..... with 6.1 channels..... use 7 speakers plus a sub....

Trust me :)
 
Kleegamefan said:
That is 100% correct....the reason 7 speakers+Sub should be used in a 6.1 system is because there is a psychoacoustic phenomenon that hinders the brain's ability to localize a center channel and rear surround channel when both channels are simultanously active....

The ideal viewing location is in line with the front center channel (middle of the TV) and if you only use a single 6th rear speaker, in line with the front center and you in between the two, there can be some instances where (when both front and rear center channels are active) the brain percieves a weird acoustic effect where front/rear center sound ping-pongs back and forth and the rear center channel sound seems like it is coming from the front center channel and vice versa....its very disconcerting if you experience it...


Moving the single rear center channel off center introduces other weird phase effects that fucks up the rear soundstage and isn't a proper solution either...

The solution that *works* is to you use TWO back surround speakers in a dual mono configuration with placment about 2-3 ft apart....this introduces enough of a diffusion to eliminate the ping-pong effect, yet retains proper back surround acoustic localization....the best of both worlds :)

Again..... with 6.1 channels..... use 7 speakers plus a sub....

Trust me :)
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Man, considering how little uses 6.1 vs. 5.1 at this point; it almost seems worth going for just a 5.1 setup then since you need 2 less speakers. :\
 
Yeah.....7 speakers isn't financially or logistically practical for everybody, thats for sure....

You have the figure out what is right for you and 5.1 just might be it...

Keep in mind, though, if you have any intrest in HD-DVD, Blu-ray or the PlayStation 3 (which is also a Blu-Ray player) you should know that 7.1 discrete high-resolution sound will be the standard with these formats via Dolby Digital Plus and dts-HD...

HD-DVD movies, Blu-Ray Movies and (most likely) Blu-Ray PS3 games will be 7.1......you should be aware of this up front....

If, however, you are only going to get, say, and X360 next gen, 5.1 will be perfect for you :)
 
Kleegamefan said:
Here Ryudo, let me give it a go :)

Disclaimer: you might see Ryudo and I give you different reccomendations......this is nothing to fear, as it will just be our interpretation of what would be of value to you....there is no right or wrong...just suggestions to point you in the right direction.....sort of a "filter", if you will, to steer you away from the crap (i.e, Friends don't let friends buy BOSE) and give you a little sample of stuff we find of good value....it is not gospel....you must make the final decison yourself and ALWAY trust your *own* ears and formulate your *own* opinion...
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Since you both live in the same country, its your territory :D

Just dont buy BOSE and get whatever sounds best to your ears, even if they are dirt cheap.
 
Kleegamefan said:
Yeah.....7 speakers isn't financially or logistically practical for everybody, thats for sure....

You have the figure out what is right for you and 5.1 just might be it...

Keep in mind, though, if you have any intrest in HD-DVD, Blu-ray or the PlayStation 3 (which is also a Blu-Ray player) you should know that 7.1 discrete high-resolution sound will be the standard with these formats via Dolby Digital Plus and dts-HD...

HD-DVD movies, Blu-Ray Movies and (most likely) Blu-Ray PS3 games will be 7.1......you should be aware of this up front....

If, however, you are only going to get, say, and X360 next gen, 5.1 will be perfect for you :)
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Wow, I feel insulted. ^^;

Heh, well coming back from Japan I've barely saved up enough to last a few months + get my nice PS3/X360 TV. I need to get working again before I figure out what I can spend on speakers :)
 
"Another thing I like about Harmon Kardon recievers is the fact they have *TWO* power supplies (not even the high-zoot Denons have dual PS)"

Thats because Denon allways use cheap PSU's compared to rest of the "big" brands. One of the reasons I almost never recommend Denon to anyone.

Also I saw your setup klee, impressive but why didnt you import the pre/pro amps from China instead. It is much cheaper and you get best of the best with a modified brand name. It is still exactly the same equipment.
 
Kleegamefan said:
Keep in mind, though, if you have any intrest in HD-DVD, Blu-ray or the PlayStation 3 (which is also a Blu-Ray player) you should know that 7.1 discrete high-resolution sound will be the standard with these formats via Dolby Digital Plus and dts-HD...
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yes, but how many games are going to take advantage of these features?

i have no idea, thats why im asking.
 
Wait, are there even top-notch 7.1 recievers out yet? Or are you going to have to buy a new reciever when the PS3 comes out?
 
Bebpo said:
Wait, are there even top-notch 7.1 recievers out yet? Or are you going to have to buy a new reciever when the PS3 comes out?
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There are plenty of top-notch 7.1 discrete receivers out there. You simply have to shell out an arm and a leg for them.

Very few of them support digital video switching. Component, yes, but very seldom will you see HDMI or DVI in the consumer models sold in most major electronics retaillers.
 
What is top notch though? I am far from picky so I think there are a plenty of top notch 7.1 receivers, although the extra channels are more or less matrixed and not discrete, so they disqualify.
 
DAMN, pwn, do you have Klipsch Heritage speakers??(La Scala? Klipschorn? Heresy?)
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No, I have the 5.1 Promedias. I haven't even heard the Heritage first hand. Just heard of them.
 
Kleegamefan said:
evildede, I have heard tons of praises (and a little compliants concerting build quality) about the D202B, particularly concerning sound quality...

The thing I like about it is it is a digitally amplified reciever....as you may/may not know, digital amps are very efficient......~80-95% efficiency, depending on the design of the digital amp compared to ~55% efficiency of even the best analog amps(bipolar transistors in a Class A topology) and because of this they are often cool to the touch and are very smallÂ…thatÂ’s why digital receivers not named sony :lol are very thin and sleek...

With some of the better class D(igital) amps, input audio is amplified via a simple Pulse Width Modulation or duty cycle variation of a square wave. From here, Phase Modulation uses two switches operating at the same frequency. By controlling the phase angle or time difference between the two waveforms and processing them differentially, the output varies from full off (0 phase shift) to full on (180°)....this is a perfect sound waveform (in theory) and is one of the big pros of a pure digital amp.....other than the final gain stage(+/- D/A conversion), the audio signal has a pure digital path from input to the speaker!!!!

Also, Digital amps have a theoretically perfect noise floor and do not "feature" even ordered harmonics, ala analog amps....

In short, Digital amps roxx mah soxx :DD
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Actually, in a Class A topology, you'd be lucky to get ~25% efficiency. The supposed advantage offered by a Class A amp is that it's transistors conduct during both the positive and negative cycles of the signal. Thus, it has lower distortion and less phase incoherencies than other topologies. The problem, as you summarized, is that they're terribly inefficient.

The only problem with Class D or Tripath amps that I've read about is that they tend to be less forgiving of difficult speaker loads. IOW, if you throw anything other than 6-8 ohm load at them, they tend to buckle. So be careful in mating the correct speaker to any digital amp/receiver you buy; or make sure the amplifier sections's 4-ohm wattage rating is at least double it's 8 ohm rating.

That said, Digital amplification is the future.
 
Cold-Steel said:
There are plenty of top-notch 7.1 discrete receivers out there. You simply have to shell out an arm and a leg for them.

Very few of them support digital video switching. Component, yes, but very seldom will you see HDMI or DVI in the consumer models sold in most major electronics retaillers.
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Yep, it will probably take another year or two before HDMI is standard. I can't wait though- less cables = me :D
 
Shompola said:
"Another thing I like about Harmon Kardon recievers is the fact they have *TWO* power supplies (not even the high-zoot Denons have dual PS)"

Thats because Denon allways use cheap PSU's compared to rest of the "big" brands. One of the reasons I almost never recommend Denon to anyone.

Also I saw your setup klee, impressive but why didnt you import the pre/pro amps from China instead. It is much cheaper and you get best of the best with a modified brand name. It is still exactly the same equipment.
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With Denon's lower line- 2805 and lower, you're right. However, once you get to the 3805 I would beg to differ a bit. It weighs 39lbs, and that likely means it has a big fat toroid in there. The 4806 weighs in at 52lbs, and the 5805 tops the charts at a scale-busting 97lbs.

The significance of weight is simple. The power supply is really the heart of any traditional Class A/B or Class B amplifier or receiver. If a receiver is rated for 120 watts, but it only weighs 28lbs, I would be very suspicious of how legit their it's wattage ratings are. This is what Klee is talking about when he says real power.

CAVEAT: Digital amps obviuosly don't follow the beefier is better dictum- and they don't have to.

BTW, I noticed that the HK 435 weighs in at a very healthy 39lbs. :) I had forgot about the HK's, that's a good suggestion Klee. I especially like the Logic 7 feature on the HK's.
 
Also I saw your setup klee, impressive but why didnt you import the pre/pro amps from China instead. It is much cheaper and you get best of the best with a modified brand name. It is still exactly the same equipment.
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Unfortunatly, my AV dealer can only get his hands on a finite set of HT gear and would slit my throat if he knew I went behind his back and imported gear without consulting him first :lol

I also get to demo everything first before I buy from him, which is a major plus for me....

Dunno what happened with my Marantz DVD player though ;)
 
I own a Yamaha boxed set of 6.1 with receiver for $500. A good mid level surround system that will last me 5-10 years before investing in a $1500 setup. Its a really kick ass system that has enough AV inputs for several machines, including two components and two digital sound ports. A great set in my opinion.
 
Daigoro said:
yes, but how many games are going to take advantage of these features?

i have no idea, thats why im asking.
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Not Klee, bu I would guess that very few in the beginning. I think that 5.1 channels are fine. However, since 6.1 and 7.1 are becoming so ubiquitous, I would go ahead and buy the most up to date standard possible within your budget. That way you can guard against premature obsolescense. I have a 6.1 receiver now, but I only use 5.1 channels ATM. Obviuosly, my next receiver purchase will be a 7.1 rig.

OTOH, if you can find a great deal on a better quality 5.1 receiver with all the latest surround sound formats, then it might be worth a look.
 
I imagine not very many games will support Discrete 7.1 Surround.

5.1 will be the standard next-generation. Many developers will simply not have the storage capacity or lack the resources altogether.

I do, however, believe that high profile titles will probably take full advantage of the benefits of tommorow's technology. Dolby Digital EX in 7.1 glory....drool...

I'm pretty sick of this Pro Logic II(x) nonsense. Doesn't sound nearly as good as DD or DTS.
 
Yes, *most* next gen games (Rev. X360) will probably be 5.1 but the PS3 is a BRD-ROM player and if the BRD-ROM games are anything like the movies, they will use dts-HD and/or Dolby Digital Plus decoding (i.e 7.1 discrete surround)
 
does anyone know if the Spherex xbox 5.1 surround sound speaker system is any good. cause ive read alot of good reviews about it and its on sale at the store by me. i just want a second opinion.
 
Klee, Thanks a lot for your post. I would love to get those Athena Micra speakers but it looks like Best Buy is the only place that sells them (which is sold out)? Google and Ebay show nothing else. Think they could have it in stock any time soon? or know of any other place to buy?

I really like small stuff so I'm leaning towards the Panasonic SA-XR25S with the Micra speakers.
 
Kleegamefan said:
Yes, *most* next gen games (Rev. X360) will probably be 5.1 but the PS3 is a BRD-ROM player and if the BRD-ROM games are anything like the movies, they will use dts-HD and/or Dolby Digital Plus decoding (i.e 7.1 discrete surround)
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The storage format means nothing if the developer simply lacks the resources altogether.

Developers are lazy and publishers recognize that very few people will actually have the money for 7 speakers and a subwoofer in their homes. Very few games will have this support, if any.

7.1 Discrete is a great idea, but feasible for the average gamer? Believe me, you'll be seeing more 5.1 DDEX games on PS3 than 7.1 DDEX.

DTS...who knows where they'll be.
 
Sure they are old, but I love my Klipsch Reference Series 3 speakers, which I have mated with a Pioneer system. And if you buy a subwoofer that is not from SVS you are missing out on so much.
 
chief said:
does anyone know if the Spherex xbox 5.1 surround sound speaker system is any good. cause ive read alot of good reviews about it and its on sale at the store by me. i just want a second opinion.
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I've never heard the Spherex system chief. But here are some things of note.
It lists the subwoofer response as 40Hz ~ 140Hz. That's fine for a little system like this but they footnote it with Effective power output during SURROUND operation* and *Please note that MaxxBass processing will psycho-acoustically extend perceived low frequency response.. which tells me that you aren't getting a real 40Hz extension out of that sub. Another thing that has me a bit baffled is that they list the distortion figure for the sub as 1.5% THD from 40Hz - 114Hz, while the THD (total harmonic distortion) at 100Hz is 10%.

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

One other slight problem is that there is a small hole in the frequency respone between the sub and sats. Really though, it's probably nothing to worry about with a system like this.

Spherex said:
AUDIO section
FRONT (135 Hz ~ 20 kHz, 0.3 % T.H.D. at one channel driven) 55W + 55 W
SUBWOOFER (40 Hz ~ 114 Hz, 1.5 % T.H.D. at one channel driven) 102W
Effective power output during SURROUND operation*

FRONT (110 Hz ~ 20 kHz, 0.3 % T.H.D. at one channel driven) 55W + 55 W
CENTER (110 Hz ~ 20 kHz, 0.3 % T.H.D. at one channel driven) 55 W
SURROUND (140 Hz ~ 20 kHz, 0.3% T.H.D. at one channel driven) 16 W + 16 W
SUBWOOFER (40 Hz ~ 114 Hz, 1.5 % T.H.D. at one channel driven) 102 W

FRONT (1 kHz, 10 % T.H.D. at one channel driven) 70 W + 70 W
CENTER (1 kHz, 10 % T.H.D. at one channel driven) 70 W
SURROUND (1 kHz, 10 % T.H.D. at one channel driven) 24 W + 24 W
SUBWOOFER (100 Hz, 10 % T.H.D. at one channel driven) 110 W

*Please note that MaxxBass processing will psycho-acoustically extend perceived low frequency response.
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Honestly, I would recommend taking a look at the Mirage Omnisat line. They're basically the same speaker as the Spherex as Mirage manufactures the Spherex's speakers. They measure 90Hz-20KHz, +/- 3dB- not bad given their size. You could buy 5 of these and a sub. If cost is an issue, you could just buy 3 and a sub to start with for your front stage and LF's. You could add the surround channels later on if cost is an issue.

Good luck
 
thanks for your help. my game room is pretty small, so i thought this spherex system would probably be better then buying huge ass speakers. i dont know what you ment by all that subwoofer stuff( sorry i dont really follow to much on subs) but thanks for your help.
 
chief said:
thanks for your help. my game room is pretty small, so i thought this spherex system would probably be better then buying huge ass speakers. i dont know what you ment by all that subwoofer stuff( sorry i dont really follow to much on subs) but thanks for your help.
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Well, this thread should've probably died by now... but I can't help myself. :)

Anyway, I think you'll find that the Omnisats are about the same size as the Spherex speakers. On paper the Mirage Omnisats are better; but probably a bit more expensive. Either way, it's probably worth you're time to listen to the Spherex system and see what you think. Especially if a local store have them in stock. :)
 
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